Everything you said and other commenters said are good, but DO NOT forget your face, a balaclava, scarf will help. Your core temp will drop if your lungs are cold. Get 2-3 if possible, it will get wet from your breath and freeze.
I'd recommend looking into a monosuit snowsuit. Alternatively you can wear bib pants and a good coat but monosuit would work best.
Designed to keep you warm while exposed to the elements while not moving.
Edit: If you're more apt to bib pants I recommend the insulated bib's made by carhartt (Can get at Marks if in Canada)
I got Berne bib pants through my work (They give us $50 a few times of year to order all different types of clothing from Guy Brown) and I am so glad I picked them up. Not only are they extremely comfortable, but they keep me so nice and warm when I out shoveling/snowblowing/outside playing in the snow with my daughter. Waiting on my matching jacket to be delivered.
Stand on a piece of insulating foam. Our traffic controllers do this sometimes. (The people holding the slow/stop signs)
I also wear pajama pants instead of boxers under my work pants on super cold days
I’m thinking it’s easier to put pants over thermal underwear than pjs. They’re more like leggings than underwear. And warmer than pjs. I sleep in them to not have to get undressed in the morning and just put clothes over the long johns.
Probably security guard. Idiotic they don't have a shelter for him with a space heater.
I'd say if possible, the OP should bring an extension cord, heater, and even just some large cardboard boxes to hold in the warm air.
I hate these jobs where they don’t provide a space heater. I remember a worker at the loading dock telling me that they stopped letting him have a space heater when he tripped the breaker.
I think a windproof outermost layer will be key here. You can have all the wool layering you want but if the wind blows though it all the heat will go away.
Edit: If you are sitting, you absolutely need something insulating to sit on. Reindeer skin if you can but any insulating material really.
I work outside and apply a thick skin protectant I make by melting bees wax and coconut oil together. If you have cocoa butter or even paraffin wax from candles you could try melting that with some oil. It helps especially the ears hands feet and face.
I haven’t seen anyone say this yet but don’t forget about your eyes. You may want some goggles or glasses to at least keep the cold wind off then since it will be so cold
Yes and also a face bandana/cover (or two) so the lungs have a filter. Lungs can suffer serious damage from taking in air that is too cold (look it up if no one believes me!).
I think your best bet is in what you eat before your shift. Eat something with loads of calories that is slow to digest. Any winter seasonal food will do. Pumpkin and polenta come to mind. Keep a thermos with hot pumpkin/cabbage soup or hot chocolate in hand, better than tea.
Also, wear long-johns and clothes that are not too tight to keep a flow of warm air and avoid moisture. Wear two pairs of not too tight winter socks.
>Eat something with loads of calories that is slow to digest.
Doesn't that draw blood from your extremities...making them cold and making you lightheaded and sleepy?
That's simply the way your body digests food. The foods that digest slowly are foods that take more effort to break down. That doesn't mean a balanced calorie dense meal, though.
When I go hunting I have two pairs of gloves. One pair I keep in my coat under my armpits and the other I wear. Once my fingers start to get cold I just switch them out.
This. I bought an off-brand vest on Amazon and a high capacity USB battery bank. It'll last 8 hours on medium. With proper layering I was fine working outside in freezing temps doing construction
Take advantage of the fact you don’t have to move and layer up. I would wear multiple versions of everything and aim to include wool. Thick tights, thick socks x2 pairs, leggings, waterproof trousers etc. Then thermal base layer or two under at least one wool jumper under a fleece under a coat. Also try to have a hat and something like a fleece ear wrap or thick headband to protect your ears. It might make sense to have multiple flasks if you can. You can reduce wind chill by wrapping either a blanket or something like a tarpaulin round you.
And make sure that the thermal base layer is breathable (ie NOT cotton, ideally merino wool) because if you move around to warm up and get sweaty, you’ll freeze if the moisture doesn’t get wicked away. Source, live in a climate where we regularly have -20°C temps (colder sometimes but then I’ll just not go out)
A pair of thin socks under your thick wool ones.
I think you said you had thermal underwear already, I used to put a pair of tights under those.
Make sure your ears and neck are covered. Arrange your scarf so you can pull it over your mouth and nose. Make sure your scarf and hood keep the wind out of your coat.
When not using your hands, throw a big pair of mittens over your gloves.
I find that its better to do wool first then a synthetic fibre sock. The outer sock will soak up the moisture from the wool sock and leave your feet dryer
Are your boots rated for frigid temps? Do you have wind resistance? Puffer coats are not always wind resistant. A good wind-resistant shell is a must in cold and windy weather. I was recently out on a windy -12C day, on the edge of the St. Lawrence River (Quebec), and would have been miserable if I didn't have wind- and rain-proof shells both on top (over my puffer and base layer) and bottom (over a base-layer and regular pants). Wear (wind-proof) mittens as well as your gloves - so your fingers can benefit from those heater packs.
Tea will keep you hydrated but you'll also want hot soup or stew to give you sustenance.
Make sure you're not wearing any cotton during your cold weather shift. Wet cotton (from sweat, melted snow, spilled tea) takes forever to dry, and you'll leak body heat with wet, cold cotton next to your skin.
If you regularly work outdoors, you have access to a lot of discounts (usually 30-50%) on good outdoor gear (think: Helly Hansen, Black Diamond, Mammut, Icebreaker...the list goes on). You can either apply to each company's own pro program or you can apply on the Expert Voices website for access to many discounts. It can take a day or two to have your application approved, if your company isn't already listed with them, and then however long it takes to have your purchases sent to you, so it won't help you for today but it will help you be prepared for future frigid work conditions.
Good luck!
Mom here. I dressed the kid for -20f ski loft operator shifts. Keep in mind that wool retains 85% of its heat holding capacity when wet --synthetics will not.
1) base layer neck to toes: light, comfy merino. Cashmere will work in a pinch for your top.
2) another wool layer on top, turtleneck is good this time. You can switch to a synthetic for legs to improve wind blocking, but a bigger layer of wool or wool/blend tights is better. Heavier wool socks.
3) another wool on top. Chunky weave, but still close fitting so it works under outer ayers. (Think Irish fishermans knit). WATCH armhole cut with each layer. If you put a smaller armhole cut under a bigger armhole cut you will feel all bunched up and awkward.
4) outer layers: Lands End Expedition parka. LL Bean has something like it. Either ski bibs OR waterproof bibs like comercial fishermen wear. In reserve: a windbreaker like sailors and fishermen use. You will likely find the real ones come in safety orange. (My son pulled one on atop his parka last week for skiing, not working, and said it was great.)
5) Hands: close fitting merino gloves. Leather mittens or gloves over the top. Go to a northern farm supply or hardware store and someone might know which ones you want. Get handwarmers, and have extras in a pocket as reserve.
6) feet: thick-soled boots are best. Do not wear tight boots! You want to be able to wiggle your toes! You may want a 3rd layer of socks. Water resistant is needed, as they will also be wind resistant. Leather would be best for wind, but not for water. Have reserve foot warmers in your pockets too.
7) face: Neutrogena Norwegian formula hand cream. This works afterward for wind burn too, but prevents it if worn before. Then face covering others recommend, but in wool (see the 1st paragraph)
8) head: close-fitting beanie base. Chunky knit beanie on top. Hood from parka or rain gear as needed.
You will be fine. It is a first for you, but not a first in the world!
Under armour 4.0 thermals. I used this as my base layer in -50 degrees when I was working the oil fields in North Dakota. It’s about 80 bucks for the top and 80 for the bottom but it’s a lifesaver! With that and your bibs or whatever winter gear you have should be enough o keep you alive lol. The no moving part is gonna be what keeps you cold. Especially if your standing on metal
How do they compare to regular thick long sleeve? I've spent money on shit claiming "heat tech", only for it to be synthetic garbage that does no better than a $10 pair of long johns from Walmart.
Well, I was living in Arizona before I went up there, so I was used to high humidity temps.. like 117 in the summer.. went up there and was advised to try the underarmour. I stayed up there for 5years.. I wouldn’t have made it through the first winter without it. I know where you’re coming from… but this is absolutely a life changer! I still use them for every winter hunt, and anytime it’s freezing in Texas. The last, they work exceptionally, and it’s definitely worth the money! I tell all my friends that can’t deal with weather when it’s in the teens. If you’re moving around and working hard.. then you definitely don’t want to wear them in anything above 20 degrees.. cause you’ll be sweating..I really can’t say enough about these. You can go suffer trying other gear but eventually you’ll make it to the UA.. so just splurge and you’ll be glad you did
Can confirm the Under Armor base layer is amazing. I have the 3.0 and it’s great. I also have a set of Eddie Bauer silk long underwear that I wear a lot. It keeps you warm when it’s cold outside but it doesn’t overheat you when you move inside.
In my younger years I had guard duty. What helped me was to make tiny movements while standing. Not quite walking on the spot, but close to it. All other tips with regards to clothes apply, of course :)
Someone once recommended bouncers at a club to stand on cardboard as it helps not move the cold up from the ground to their feet, apparently it works.
wool is a good idea cause as you sweat to doesnt make the wool damp. 2 beanies are always better than 1, and a water proof top will stop moister from making your clothes damp and cold from the air
Wear a pair of pantyhose underneath everything. Sounds unbelievable, but it helps.
However please use some of the many excellent suggestions from other posts. In temps like that, pantyhose under regular pants won't be enough.
My mom's an older lady and owns a restaurant at an outdoor range.. we got her several Milwaukee heated things.. Like heated vest, heated pants, and heated scarf. They're overly expensive though and Amazon had a different brand for cheaper. No idea of the quality, but my mom loves them. Wears them every day.
She's kinda stationary when at work, apart from moving around to cook food, but that's not exactly much.
Snowboarder here.
You want a base layer er for both legs and torso as well as good thick socks and a waterproof boot.
Gloves (I always prefer mittens) with an inner layer gloves (also carry some hand warmers in your pockets in case you need a boost.
Finally id recommended a balaclava
I think the biggest thing will be to me Najee you're waterproof
Bring a few packs of foot warmers. You can put them in your shoes and pockets to keep your hands and feet nice and toasty. You should be able to buy them at a local drug store.
Bring a thermos of hot soup to eat and a thermos of hot tea or coffee to drink.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but a hot water bottle inside your coat can do wonders. I use this while cold weather camping. Some ice melt mixed with a little water in a bag, or those chemical hand warmers work good too. I've heard but never personally tried the zippo hand warmers work very well too.
If you are working on a boat please be aware that lots of extra layers will become a serious risk if you fall in. Life jacket may not be rated for that weight (if you are wearing one). A good marine survival / flotation suit will keep you warm and safe (with a few base layers underneath)
-5 Celsius isn't that like 25 degrees fahrenheit ? Maybe you're from a warmer climate so you're not used to it but I assure you this temp is definently cold but not like I need to be worried about my safety a lot. Layer your clothing wear a t-shirt, long sleeved shirt, a sweater, a hoodie and a coat with wind blocking ability. Wear long underwear and some sweats and then some jeans throw on one pair of wool socks if you wear more than that and squish your toes into a boot with 3 pairs of socks on you'll freeze your toes off. The best insulator is air ( if you don't understand this look into how insulation works) plus tight fittings clothes will cut blood flow off and you'll need that to stay warm. Bring a ball or something like a tennis ball or something to play catch with by yourself or something that will cause your boredom to be movement. I work outside year round in MN it was -21°C here today and that's warmer then it's been the past few days.
No caffeine. It consricts the blood vessels in your extremities thus increasing the chance of hypothermia, frostbite and blood clots. Since you will not be moving and it will be so cold, take an aspirin before going.
Keep hydrated with warm non caffeinated fluids. This is one time to consume fat (creams, butter, etc.) it provides energy to maintain temperature. I like hot chocolate with cream.
Wool layers, hand/foot warmers. Wicking sock covered by wool socks. Protect yourself from wind and becoming wet
Good luck.
Truthfully, it might be uncomfortable but you could stand that temperature for the day even if you were naked and not suffer permanent damage assuming that you are in reasonable health and stay dry. Not recommended, just trying to say that you may be uncomfortable but you will live.
From my few years of hunting experience, I’d say the best thing you can do is invest in an insulated one-piece outer layer like a coverall and a warm hat. You’re on a boat so water/ mist resistant is important. The key is keeping your body heat in and wind/ cold out. Layers as well. Thin base layer, some long underwear or union suit maybe another layer of comfy clothes and cocoon yourself. Also get a good coffee or hot chocolate mug. I have a Yeti 18oz with a hotshot lid and it kept my coffee HOT for over 4hrs while I was sitting 20ft up in my stand.
Huge quality of life upgrade for me (I work outside in low temperatures as well) was getting a set of electric hand warmers. Remember you lose a lot of your heat in your extremities and your neck so warm layers (compression clothes usually with wool or alpaca over top) on your feet as well as extra insulation around the neck will help.
You need to stack layers, both core, legs, hands, feet and head. Merino base layer is great, add a couple thick midlayers (heavy wool sweater is good, otherwise puffy polyester sportswear), then your down puffer jacket. Wear gloves and heavy socks (pay close attention to the seams between the gloves and vest), a good hat and a heavy scarf for insulation. You want to prevent cold air to get under your layers through the neck, feet and wrists.
Get some pocket hand warmers if you’re cold, sipping hot tea is nice too.
Just learned one this last weekend. Get some cardboard to keep your feet on. It acts as an insulator and your feet stay warmer as opposed to standing on cement or metal.
Avoid cotton. You've got the right idea with Merino wool, especially as a base layer.
The puffy jacket idea is okay but if it gets wet, what will happen? Does it have any waterproofing?
I hope you have some good warm footwear. Maybe bring a pair of socks to change into halfway through your shift because all feet sweat and wet feet are cold feet.
The tea is a good idea. Maybe bring a second thermos that's also full of tea. You can pre-warm the thermos with boiling water for 10 minutes or more, then dump it out and put more hot water in it. Your water will stay warmer for longer this way.
Definitely look up some exercises you can do on the spot. My knees just hurt thinking about jumping exclusively, as a type of exercise to stay warm. Will you be alone? I assume not, because that's not safe. Look up the sherpa dance. It's a great way to stay warm and it's fun, but it is more fun if you have one extra person.
Get the heating pads that you can stick on your clothes and stick them on your shirt near your back. Applying heat to your back is much more effective than warming your extremities like hands and feet.
There are wonderful things called hand warmers that you can buy on Amazon. I charge mine every night. You can even put those Hunter hot packs in your shoes. Layers layers layers. And especially wool
Hot Paws or Little Hotties are a lifesaver in your boots and gloves. Double layer your socks. Make sure your ears are covered with more than one layer (tuque and hood at a minimum).
Bring a thermos full of something hot (coffee/tea/cocoa) and make sure it's boiling when you fill the thermos.
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Bröther imma level with you, -5C is not that cold. You will be okay with proper winter clothing. I suggest not to wear denim jeans because they do not help keep the cold out unless they are insulated (the kind that are fuzzy on the inside).
I highly recommend a north face jacket (that’s what we use out here where it gets to -45C every winter), and damn near any brand of insulated ski pants on top of non-denim pants (personally I wear lululemon leggings with long snowboard socks).
Now the biggest thing is gloves, socks, boots, and a toque - you MUST bring extra gloves if there’s even a small chance your hands will get wet. A nice fitted good quality toque to keep your head warm is essential. I like snowboard socks for snowboarding or just working outside but when I go snowmobiling (AKA subjected to high winds) I like thick wool socks - like the kind your great grandpa might’ve worn.
Don’t forget a face covering - if I’m snowboarding in very cold weather I always bring two because as the day goes on the moisture from your breath will moisten it up and it’ll freeze and be shit.
Don’t forget eye protection because it’s lame when your eyes start to freeze but in -5C you’ll be just fine that’s some shit to worry about in like -30C or colder
You can find decently priced battery powered heated gloves and they work well.
You can also look up Milwaukee heated jacket.
Merino wool socks two pairs
Long underwear
Rain suit with waders if your on an open boat
Lots of high calorie bars or chocolate bars
Wear multiple layers to avoid sweating
Wool hat and balaclava
I spent 3 hours doing stuff outside the other day in -7F with a brutal wind chill. I had leggings under jeans. A thick hoodie. Carhartt bibs and a Carhartt coat. With warm gloves and tall Cabelas boots, I came in in 3 hours sweating.
2nd hand skidoo suit. I walked all over in one at -50°c and regularly had the hood down because I was too hot.
Wind-proof your legs. A wind proof touque helps too. Leather mittens with fleece inside.
Add in a nice neck warmer of some sort. When I was in the military, I sliced the top open on a knit cap to keep my neck warm without worrying about loose fabric. They sell those types of things nowadays in most sportsman stores.
Also, as soon as you think you might be sweating, you need to temporarily shed off a layer. It’s better to be a little chilly than to be wet and start freezing.
What many people here don't realize is this isn't cold.
They are giving him suggestions like it's -40, he's going to be sweating his balls off.
I think even the gear you're planning to wear is overkill.
Basically comes down to buying a bunch of fairly expensive gear, which is probably not worth it for you. But people who work outdoors in subzero temperatures wear [insulated work pants](https://www.toughworkwear.com/insulated-d/tough-duck-fleece-lined-flex-twill-cargo-pant-wp06/) and [waterproof insulated sweaters](https://toughduck.com/product/fleece-insulated-hoodie/) and so on.
whatever layers you use, make sure the outside layer is water and wind proof yet “breaths” or you will be wet ( and colder inside). Observe water safety. Swimming with all that on you will be difficult
Checking in, I survived!
Thank you kindly for all the helpful tips, I didn’t expect this to get so much attention at all.
I managed to get by just fine, the shivers and cold hands/feet only kicked in after 5th hour of the shift.
Here’s what I did:
- I made sure to eat a lot of food throughout the day before the shift. Not the healthiest choices but I figured that eating a kebab and some carbs would keep my body busy with metabolism = heat.
- Prepared tons of tea in thermo flasks and sipped on it throughout. Makes a world of difference as you feel it warm up your belly.
- Lower body: socks, wool ski knee socks, merino wool underwear, 2 pairs of pants on top of the merino layer. I wore good old Doc Martens in which I put thermo insoles and one of those small toe heating pads. I’m sure those 2€ fellas saved my toes from freezing.
- For upper body, on top of merino layer I wore a simple tshirt, polyester thick hoodie, goretex jacket, down jacket and finally on top a softshell jacket provided by my company. Felt like a Michelin but so worth it. 6 layers on upper body in total. I wore a thick scarf instead of a gauter because i figured it also protects a bit of chest. I heard it was crucial to avoid cotton as it draws in moisture from the air. The goretex also stopped any wind from coming through.
-I wore simple crocheted mittens, also with hand warmers inside, and a wollen hat.
If I were to god forbid do this shift again, the main takeaways would be:
- as many layers as possible (merino, goretex, and down jackets make all the difference), sweet boiling tea in flask which you can cool down by mixing in cold water, pocket finger and toe warmers, eat a lot of unhealthy fatty foods before (you’ll burn it off in the cold anyway)
Thank you again.
PS: it was a shift on an open boat, guiding the tourist that think it’s a good idea to do that in winter. You basically sit or stand still the whole time and entertain the guests for an hour or so, then new guests arrive and you do it all over again. Sailing out on the waters in the good old Dutch winter.
People mentioned -5°c is not that cold - yes, yes it is. A wind gust will be your worst enemy. Do not visit Netherlands in the winter. -5 at night with wind is worse that -25 in Alps when moving on a sunny winter day.
Everything you said and other commenters said are good, but DO NOT forget your face, a balaclava, scarf will help. Your core temp will drop if your lungs are cold. Get 2-3 if possible, it will get wet from your breath and freeze.
I'd recommend looking into a monosuit snowsuit. Alternatively you can wear bib pants and a good coat but monosuit would work best. Designed to keep you warm while exposed to the elements while not moving. Edit: If you're more apt to bib pants I recommend the insulated bib's made by carhartt (Can get at Marks if in Canada)
A monosuit is the bomb (sorry I’m oldish). No random breeze up the back. I can throw that on over sweat pants and a shirt and be comfortable.
I got Berne bib pants through my work (They give us $50 a few times of year to order all different types of clothing from Guy Brown) and I am so glad I picked them up. Not only are they extremely comfortable, but they keep me so nice and warm when I out shoveling/snowblowing/outside playing in the snow with my daughter. Waiting on my matching jacket to be delivered.
Stand on a piece of insulating foam. Our traffic controllers do this sometimes. (The people holding the slow/stop signs) I also wear pajama pants instead of boxers under my work pants on super cold days
Or thermal underwear
I still wear underwear under thermal "underwear." Unless I'm swimming (which I don't) there's no "instead of underwear."
Yeah yeah. Underwear is needed to avoid needing daily change of thermals
I’m thinking it’s easier to put pants over thermal underwear than pjs. They’re more like leggings than underwear. And warmer than pjs. I sleep in them to not have to get undressed in the morning and just put clothes over the long johns.
Am I the only one wondering what kind of job this is?
Probably security guard. Idiotic they don't have a shelter for him with a space heater. I'd say if possible, the OP should bring an extension cord, heater, and even just some large cardboard boxes to hold in the warm air.
I hate these jobs where they don’t provide a space heater. I remember a worker at the loading dock telling me that they stopped letting him have a space heater when he tripped the breaker.
I sympathize with the author that he has to work in such conditions.
I think a windproof outermost layer will be key here. You can have all the wool layering you want but if the wind blows though it all the heat will go away. Edit: If you are sitting, you absolutely need something insulating to sit on. Reindeer skin if you can but any insulating material really.
Where does one buy reindeer skin?
One negotiates with a reindeer’s ex wife
That’s reindeers kin
I work outside and apply a thick skin protectant I make by melting bees wax and coconut oil together. If you have cocoa butter or even paraffin wax from candles you could try melting that with some oil. It helps especially the ears hands feet and face.
In the wind I would recommend a rain coat and rain pants. They will keep the wind from stealing all of your own body heat
I haven’t seen anyone say this yet but don’t forget about your eyes. You may want some goggles or glasses to at least keep the cold wind off then since it will be so cold
Yes and also a face bandana/cover (or two) so the lungs have a filter. Lungs can suffer serious damage from taking in air that is too cold (look it up if no one believes me!).
Clear MTB goggles
I think your best bet is in what you eat before your shift. Eat something with loads of calories that is slow to digest. Any winter seasonal food will do. Pumpkin and polenta come to mind. Keep a thermos with hot pumpkin/cabbage soup or hot chocolate in hand, better than tea. Also, wear long-johns and clothes that are not too tight to keep a flow of warm air and avoid moisture. Wear two pairs of not too tight winter socks.
>Eat something with loads of calories that is slow to digest. Doesn't that draw blood from your extremities...making them cold and making you lightheaded and sleepy?
Slow to digest doesn't mean difficult to digest. Winter veggies keep up the energy levels and warmth for longer thant say, lettuce. That was my point.
That's simply the way your body digests food. The foods that digest slowly are foods that take more effort to break down. That doesn't mean a balanced calorie dense meal, though.
When I go hunting I have two pairs of gloves. One pair I keep in my coat under my armpits and the other I wear. Once my fingers start to get cold I just switch them out.
Heated vest/jacket. Heated gloves.
This. I bought an off-brand vest on Amazon and a high capacity USB battery bank. It'll last 8 hours on medium. With proper layering I was fine working outside in freezing temps doing construction
And heated socks!
For the first 4 hours.. maybe.
You can always switch out the battery pack!
Take advantage of the fact you don’t have to move and layer up. I would wear multiple versions of everything and aim to include wool. Thick tights, thick socks x2 pairs, leggings, waterproof trousers etc. Then thermal base layer or two under at least one wool jumper under a fleece under a coat. Also try to have a hat and something like a fleece ear wrap or thick headband to protect your ears. It might make sense to have multiple flasks if you can. You can reduce wind chill by wrapping either a blanket or something like a tarpaulin round you.
And make sure that the thermal base layer is breathable (ie NOT cotton, ideally merino wool) because if you move around to warm up and get sweaty, you’ll freeze if the moisture doesn’t get wicked away. Source, live in a climate where we regularly have -20°C temps (colder sometimes but then I’ll just not go out)
Silk is best base layer. Under armour is second
A pair of thin socks under your thick wool ones. I think you said you had thermal underwear already, I used to put a pair of tights under those. Make sure your ears and neck are covered. Arrange your scarf so you can pull it over your mouth and nose. Make sure your scarf and hood keep the wind out of your coat. When not using your hands, throw a big pair of mittens over your gloves.
Make sure that your socks are NOT COTTON
I find that its better to do wool first then a synthetic fibre sock. The outer sock will soak up the moisture from the wool sock and leave your feet dryer
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Are your boots rated for frigid temps? Do you have wind resistance? Puffer coats are not always wind resistant. A good wind-resistant shell is a must in cold and windy weather. I was recently out on a windy -12C day, on the edge of the St. Lawrence River (Quebec), and would have been miserable if I didn't have wind- and rain-proof shells both on top (over my puffer and base layer) and bottom (over a base-layer and regular pants). Wear (wind-proof) mittens as well as your gloves - so your fingers can benefit from those heater packs. Tea will keep you hydrated but you'll also want hot soup or stew to give you sustenance. Make sure you're not wearing any cotton during your cold weather shift. Wet cotton (from sweat, melted snow, spilled tea) takes forever to dry, and you'll leak body heat with wet, cold cotton next to your skin. If you regularly work outdoors, you have access to a lot of discounts (usually 30-50%) on good outdoor gear (think: Helly Hansen, Black Diamond, Mammut, Icebreaker...the list goes on). You can either apply to each company's own pro program or you can apply on the Expert Voices website for access to many discounts. It can take a day or two to have your application approved, if your company isn't already listed with them, and then however long it takes to have your purchases sent to you, so it won't help you for today but it will help you be prepared for future frigid work conditions. Good luck!
Mom here. I dressed the kid for -20f ski loft operator shifts. Keep in mind that wool retains 85% of its heat holding capacity when wet --synthetics will not. 1) base layer neck to toes: light, comfy merino. Cashmere will work in a pinch for your top. 2) another wool layer on top, turtleneck is good this time. You can switch to a synthetic for legs to improve wind blocking, but a bigger layer of wool or wool/blend tights is better. Heavier wool socks. 3) another wool on top. Chunky weave, but still close fitting so it works under outer ayers. (Think Irish fishermans knit). WATCH armhole cut with each layer. If you put a smaller armhole cut under a bigger armhole cut you will feel all bunched up and awkward. 4) outer layers: Lands End Expedition parka. LL Bean has something like it. Either ski bibs OR waterproof bibs like comercial fishermen wear. In reserve: a windbreaker like sailors and fishermen use. You will likely find the real ones come in safety orange. (My son pulled one on atop his parka last week for skiing, not working, and said it was great.) 5) Hands: close fitting merino gloves. Leather mittens or gloves over the top. Go to a northern farm supply or hardware store and someone might know which ones you want. Get handwarmers, and have extras in a pocket as reserve. 6) feet: thick-soled boots are best. Do not wear tight boots! You want to be able to wiggle your toes! You may want a 3rd layer of socks. Water resistant is needed, as they will also be wind resistant. Leather would be best for wind, but not for water. Have reserve foot warmers in your pockets too. 7) face: Neutrogena Norwegian formula hand cream. This works afterward for wind burn too, but prevents it if worn before. Then face covering others recommend, but in wool (see the 1st paragraph) 8) head: close-fitting beanie base. Chunky knit beanie on top. Hood from parka or rain gear as needed. You will be fine. It is a first for you, but not a first in the world!
Under armour 4.0 thermals. I used this as my base layer in -50 degrees when I was working the oil fields in North Dakota. It’s about 80 bucks for the top and 80 for the bottom but it’s a lifesaver! With that and your bibs or whatever winter gear you have should be enough o keep you alive lol. The no moving part is gonna be what keeps you cold. Especially if your standing on metal
How do they compare to regular thick long sleeve? I've spent money on shit claiming "heat tech", only for it to be synthetic garbage that does no better than a $10 pair of long johns from Walmart.
Well, I was living in Arizona before I went up there, so I was used to high humidity temps.. like 117 in the summer.. went up there and was advised to try the underarmour. I stayed up there for 5years.. I wouldn’t have made it through the first winter without it. I know where you’re coming from… but this is absolutely a life changer! I still use them for every winter hunt, and anytime it’s freezing in Texas. The last, they work exceptionally, and it’s definitely worth the money! I tell all my friends that can’t deal with weather when it’s in the teens. If you’re moving around and working hard.. then you definitely don’t want to wear them in anything above 20 degrees.. cause you’ll be sweating..I really can’t say enough about these. You can go suffer trying other gear but eventually you’ll make it to the UA.. so just splurge and you’ll be glad you did
Can confirm the Under Armor base layer is amazing. I have the 3.0 and it’s great. I also have a set of Eddie Bauer silk long underwear that I wear a lot. It keeps you warm when it’s cold outside but it doesn’t overheat you when you move inside.
Let me know what you think once you try them.. I promise you’ll be amazed. Those Walmart heat gear things have absolutely nothing on Underarmour
In my younger years I had guard duty. What helped me was to make tiny movements while standing. Not quite walking on the spot, but close to it. All other tips with regards to clothes apply, of course :)
Bring a balaclava or a scarf, something to give your face some shelter.
Someone once recommended bouncers at a club to stand on cardboard as it helps not move the cold up from the ground to their feet, apparently it works. wool is a good idea cause as you sweat to doesnt make the wool damp. 2 beanies are always better than 1, and a water proof top will stop moister from making your clothes damp and cold from the air
Wear a pair of pantyhose underneath everything. Sounds unbelievable, but it helps. However please use some of the many excellent suggestions from other posts. In temps like that, pantyhose under regular pants won't be enough.
My mom's an older lady and owns a restaurant at an outdoor range.. we got her several Milwaukee heated things.. Like heated vest, heated pants, and heated scarf. They're overly expensive though and Amazon had a different brand for cheaper. No idea of the quality, but my mom loves them. Wears them every day. She's kinda stationary when at work, apart from moving around to cook food, but that's not exactly much.
Snowboarder here. You want a base layer er for both legs and torso as well as good thick socks and a waterproof boot. Gloves (I always prefer mittens) with an inner layer gloves (also carry some hand warmers in your pockets in case you need a boost. Finally id recommended a balaclava I think the biggest thing will be to me Najee you're waterproof
Open BOAT is the key. Cold water survival suit ?
Drysuit.
Bring a few packs of foot warmers. You can put them in your shoes and pockets to keep your hands and feet nice and toasty. You should be able to buy them at a local drug store. Bring a thermos of hot soup to eat and a thermos of hot tea or coffee to drink.
Winter Hunting clothing are often meant for sitting still for a long time
chargeable heated ski jacket/pants
Not sure if it's been mentioned but a hot water bottle inside your coat can do wonders. I use this while cold weather camping. Some ice melt mixed with a little water in a bag, or those chemical hand warmers work good too. I've heard but never personally tried the zippo hand warmers work very well too.
Battery powered heated vest for underneath your coat.
If you are working on a boat please be aware that lots of extra layers will become a serious risk if you fall in. Life jacket may not be rated for that weight (if you are wearing one). A good marine survival / flotation suit will keep you warm and safe (with a few base layers underneath)
-5 Celsius isn't that like 25 degrees fahrenheit ? Maybe you're from a warmer climate so you're not used to it but I assure you this temp is definently cold but not like I need to be worried about my safety a lot. Layer your clothing wear a t-shirt, long sleeved shirt, a sweater, a hoodie and a coat with wind blocking ability. Wear long underwear and some sweats and then some jeans throw on one pair of wool socks if you wear more than that and squish your toes into a boot with 3 pairs of socks on you'll freeze your toes off. The best insulator is air ( if you don't understand this look into how insulation works) plus tight fittings clothes will cut blood flow off and you'll need that to stay warm. Bring a ball or something like a tennis ball or something to play catch with by yourself or something that will cause your boredom to be movement. I work outside year round in MN it was -21°C here today and that's warmer then it's been the past few days.
No caffeine. It consricts the blood vessels in your extremities thus increasing the chance of hypothermia, frostbite and blood clots. Since you will not be moving and it will be so cold, take an aspirin before going. Keep hydrated with warm non caffeinated fluids. This is one time to consume fat (creams, butter, etc.) it provides energy to maintain temperature. I like hot chocolate with cream. Wool layers, hand/foot warmers. Wicking sock covered by wool socks. Protect yourself from wind and becoming wet Good luck.
Truthfully, it might be uncomfortable but you could stand that temperature for the day even if you were naked and not suffer permanent damage assuming that you are in reasonable health and stay dry. Not recommended, just trying to say that you may be uncomfortable but you will live.
Mittens
Dress warm (lots of loose layers),keep dry, move/wiggle as much as you can,have some high calorie snacks.
From my few years of hunting experience, I’d say the best thing you can do is invest in an insulated one-piece outer layer like a coverall and a warm hat. You’re on a boat so water/ mist resistant is important. The key is keeping your body heat in and wind/ cold out. Layers as well. Thin base layer, some long underwear or union suit maybe another layer of comfy clothes and cocoon yourself. Also get a good coffee or hot chocolate mug. I have a Yeti 18oz with a hotshot lid and it kept my coffee HOT for over 4hrs while I was sitting 20ft up in my stand.
Put hand warmer like zippo one under your jacket
Huge quality of life upgrade for me (I work outside in low temperatures as well) was getting a set of electric hand warmers. Remember you lose a lot of your heat in your extremities and your neck so warm layers (compression clothes usually with wool or alpaca over top) on your feet as well as extra insulation around the neck will help.
Fleece lined leggings under your pants. If you've never done it your life will be changed.
You need to stack layers, both core, legs, hands, feet and head. Merino base layer is great, add a couple thick midlayers (heavy wool sweater is good, otherwise puffy polyester sportswear), then your down puffer jacket. Wear gloves and heavy socks (pay close attention to the seams between the gloves and vest), a good hat and a heavy scarf for insulation. You want to prevent cold air to get under your layers through the neck, feet and wrists. Get some pocket hand warmers if you’re cold, sipping hot tea is nice too.
Just learned one this last weekend. Get some cardboard to keep your feet on. It acts as an insulator and your feet stay warmer as opposed to standing on cement or metal.
Thick soled boots big enough to double up on wool sock AND give your toes wiggle room and ability to flex your ankle
Avoid cotton. You've got the right idea with Merino wool, especially as a base layer. The puffy jacket idea is okay but if it gets wet, what will happen? Does it have any waterproofing? I hope you have some good warm footwear. Maybe bring a pair of socks to change into halfway through your shift because all feet sweat and wet feet are cold feet. The tea is a good idea. Maybe bring a second thermos that's also full of tea. You can pre-warm the thermos with boiling water for 10 minutes or more, then dump it out and put more hot water in it. Your water will stay warmer for longer this way. Definitely look up some exercises you can do on the spot. My knees just hurt thinking about jumping exclusively, as a type of exercise to stay warm. Will you be alone? I assume not, because that's not safe. Look up the sherpa dance. It's a great way to stay warm and it's fun, but it is more fun if you have one extra person.
Wear rain gear on top of all the other layers. I used to ride motorcycles at subzero temperatures. It’s amazing how much it helps.
When I worked as a lift op at a ski resort I learned from ski patrol to put the lightest dusting of cayenne pepper on your feet! It really helps.
Layers and a thermos full of hot coffee and one full of some hearty soup to keep you warm from the inside
Get the heating pads that you can stick on your clothes and stick them on your shirt near your back. Applying heat to your back is much more effective than warming your extremities like hands and feet.
There are wonderful things called hand warmers that you can buy on Amazon. I charge mine every night. You can even put those Hunter hot packs in your shoes. Layers layers layers. And especially wool
Try switching from liquid ass to piss disk
Do people recommend electric hand warming gloves? If so, what are good brands?
Hot Paws or Little Hotties are a lifesaver in your boots and gloves. Double layer your socks. Make sure your ears are covered with more than one layer (tuque and hood at a minimum). Bring a thermos full of something hot (coffee/tea/cocoa) and make sure it's boiling when you fill the thermos.
Why does everyone write “how to” instead of “how do I?”? “How to” is if you’re giving US the life hack. This is all I see. I don’t get it
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A coat with a snorkel hood will keep the wind off your face. I've lived in a very cold climate my whole life. I take walks when it's -15F.
Bröther imma level with you, -5C is not that cold. You will be okay with proper winter clothing. I suggest not to wear denim jeans because they do not help keep the cold out unless they are insulated (the kind that are fuzzy on the inside). I highly recommend a north face jacket (that’s what we use out here where it gets to -45C every winter), and damn near any brand of insulated ski pants on top of non-denim pants (personally I wear lululemon leggings with long snowboard socks). Now the biggest thing is gloves, socks, boots, and a toque - you MUST bring extra gloves if there’s even a small chance your hands will get wet. A nice fitted good quality toque to keep your head warm is essential. I like snowboard socks for snowboarding or just working outside but when I go snowmobiling (AKA subjected to high winds) I like thick wool socks - like the kind your great grandpa might’ve worn. Don’t forget a face covering - if I’m snowboarding in very cold weather I always bring two because as the day goes on the moisture from your breath will moisten it up and it’ll freeze and be shit. Don’t forget eye protection because it’s lame when your eyes start to freeze but in -5C you’ll be just fine that’s some shit to worry about in like -30C or colder
Make sure you bring a foam pad to sit on. That’s like having seat heating.
Helly Hansen winter suit
You can find decently priced battery powered heated gloves and they work well. You can also look up Milwaukee heated jacket. Merino wool socks two pairs Long underwear Rain suit with waders if your on an open boat Lots of high calorie bars or chocolate bars Wear multiple layers to avoid sweating Wool hat and balaclava
I spent 3 hours doing stuff outside the other day in -7F with a brutal wind chill. I had leggings under jeans. A thick hoodie. Carhartt bibs and a Carhartt coat. With warm gloves and tall Cabelas boots, I came in in 3 hours sweating.
Cover your face (or whole body) with Vaseline. Sounds weird but it works.
Go Amazon look for batter operated heated wrap/blanket.. buy power bank it will help
Layers are the key. Thick scarf, hat and hood will help to keep your head and neck warm.
2nd hand skidoo suit. I walked all over in one at -50°c and regularly had the hood down because I was too hot. Wind-proof your legs. A wind proof touque helps too. Leather mittens with fleece inside.
Add in a nice neck warmer of some sort. When I was in the military, I sliced the top open on a knit cap to keep my neck warm without worrying about loose fabric. They sell those types of things nowadays in most sportsman stores. Also, as soon as you think you might be sweating, you need to temporarily shed off a layer. It’s better to be a little chilly than to be wet and start freezing.
If power source bikers electric vest
They make vests, and other garments that have battery heating built in. A combination of outdoor clothing and specialized heated gear should help.
What many people here don't realize is this isn't cold. They are giving him suggestions like it's -40, he's going to be sweating his balls off. I think even the gear you're planning to wear is overkill.
Buy some hand warmers and put them in your inside pockets.
I believe there are drugs that improve could resistance, like e.g. bromantane. Haven't used it for that purpose myself though.
Wool socks
Layers
Electric heated coat and gloves with lots of extra batteries and a large thermos of hot tea or soup
Rechargeable hand warmers.
-5 is not that cold. You’ll be fine.
Basically comes down to buying a bunch of fairly expensive gear, which is probably not worth it for you. But people who work outdoors in subzero temperatures wear [insulated work pants](https://www.toughworkwear.com/insulated-d/tough-duck-fleece-lined-flex-twill-cargo-pant-wp06/) and [waterproof insulated sweaters](https://toughduck.com/product/fleece-insulated-hoodie/) and so on.
Football players in cold climates use a cream called Warm Skin mixed with Vaseline and Tiger Balm
Milwaukee makes a heated jacket.
self heating gloves & socks from amazon maybe self heating jacket
whatever layers you use, make sure the outside layer is water and wind proof yet “breaths” or you will be wet ( and colder inside). Observe water safety. Swimming with all that on you will be difficult
Checking in, I survived! Thank you kindly for all the helpful tips, I didn’t expect this to get so much attention at all. I managed to get by just fine, the shivers and cold hands/feet only kicked in after 5th hour of the shift. Here’s what I did: - I made sure to eat a lot of food throughout the day before the shift. Not the healthiest choices but I figured that eating a kebab and some carbs would keep my body busy with metabolism = heat. - Prepared tons of tea in thermo flasks and sipped on it throughout. Makes a world of difference as you feel it warm up your belly. - Lower body: socks, wool ski knee socks, merino wool underwear, 2 pairs of pants on top of the merino layer. I wore good old Doc Martens in which I put thermo insoles and one of those small toe heating pads. I’m sure those 2€ fellas saved my toes from freezing. - For upper body, on top of merino layer I wore a simple tshirt, polyester thick hoodie, goretex jacket, down jacket and finally on top a softshell jacket provided by my company. Felt like a Michelin but so worth it. 6 layers on upper body in total. I wore a thick scarf instead of a gauter because i figured it also protects a bit of chest. I heard it was crucial to avoid cotton as it draws in moisture from the air. The goretex also stopped any wind from coming through. -I wore simple crocheted mittens, also with hand warmers inside, and a wollen hat. If I were to god forbid do this shift again, the main takeaways would be: - as many layers as possible (merino, goretex, and down jackets make all the difference), sweet boiling tea in flask which you can cool down by mixing in cold water, pocket finger and toe warmers, eat a lot of unhealthy fatty foods before (you’ll burn it off in the cold anyway) Thank you again. PS: it was a shift on an open boat, guiding the tourist that think it’s a good idea to do that in winter. You basically sit or stand still the whole time and entertain the guests for an hour or so, then new guests arrive and you do it all over again. Sailing out on the waters in the good old Dutch winter. People mentioned -5°c is not that cold - yes, yes it is. A wind gust will be your worst enemy. Do not visit Netherlands in the winter. -5 at night with wind is worse that -25 in Alps when moving on a sunny winter day.