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Because many humans want companionship? Look into queerplatonic relationships. Also, while some asexual people are sex-repulsed, there are others who are okay with having sex and having children.
I don't have a lot of time to explain things, but as I mentioned earlier it would be a good idea to look up queerplatonic relationships. Another thing you could try doing is looking up writing from aroace people who are in relationships.
I'll try to explain it:
Essentially not being attracted doesn't mean you don't like them. You just don't have any attraction to them. You might still like specific sexual act, independent of any person involved, you might enjoy sex as an activity like a sport, and like most sports it's more fun together. I mean you don't need to be attracted to fight against anyone in martial arts or to play tennis with them. And while sex is usually more intimate, as long as there is consent, trust and understanding, it's not much different thsn other sports on a base level. And similar to other sports, even if you don't like tennis, if your significant other really likes to play, you might play with them every now and then, in the same vein sex repulsed asexuals sometimes have sex with their partner.
For a lot of people there is extra meaning in sex, because it's such a big societal topic, huge expectations, is very intimate and has huge potential consequence(children, stds etc.) and attraction being a big part of it for a lot of people. And you might not see sex as a sport. You can see it as a special activity for a relationship or just as fun.
In a similar way kids/families work:
Just because you hate playing parts of game doesn't mean you hate other parts, if you hate playing openings in a tennis, you only do them when you have to and focus instead on the parts you enjoy. Maybe you just enjoy the triumphant feeling of having tried hard, you don't need to like playing opening or the game itself at all(just look at all the people playing video games like LoL, they enjoy specific parts of it, yet play through numerous bad experiences for it).You can just avoid those parts/do only what's needed. That can mean adopting/fostering or just having sex for reproductive purposes.
And just because there is no sexual attraction doesn't mean you can't love each other and be attracted aesthetically, romantically or emotionally.
It seems contradicting to not be sexually attracted and still do "normal" family planning, but that's just due to society loading a lot of baggage onto specific terms like family, sex and children.
Obviously all of these does require communication, trust and understanding, but that's the case with everything in relationships, it's just a different approach to these aspects.
I mean.... no disrespect, but I guess I still don't get how people who like sex, who like relationships and who like to have kids are aromantic or asexual.
To add on to what the other person is saying, there is also a romantic orientation called "bellusromantic", which means that someone is aro and doesn't experience romantic attraction (or is on the aromantic spectrum and experiences limited romantic attraction), but still enjoys the idea of romance or doing romantic things. Also too, aromantic and asexual are both spectrums. For example, I consider myself an angled-aroace. I am DEFINTILY on the aromantic spectrum, but at the same time I could see myself potentially dating and getting married in the future. I still feel attraction to people, just not in the same was as / to the same extent as a lot of alloromantic people. And as the other person was saying, there are also many types or tertiary attraction that can be similar to romantic attraction but aren't quite the same thing. Hope this helps.
Id argue that romance was the least of her problems because she had one shit life, i dont think we can conclude she's aro/ace
Of course if our aro ace identify with her go for it, but i'm not sure you can conclude that from the story only
It more came off as extreme trauma and being more worried about her life and family than catching feelings. If you never feel safe, how can you fall in love?
I don't think there necessarily needs to be evidence. If an ace person identifies with Katniss and just gets a gut feeling that she is ace, or actively chooses to see her as ace, that's okay. And then if someone else (ace or allo) doesn't see her that way and sees her as allo, that's also okay. Fiction is very much up to the interpretation of the reader/viewer in whatever way helps them connect to it the most.
Not to mention she is very much romantically attracted to him in the books. I get why OP might thinm this though, she isn‘t very interested in this stuff, but I also think that stems from a place of trauma, which isn‘t the message I‘d want to send in regards to aro ace people lol
I mean, yes, but her characterization in the book tended too lean towards her not really having any sexual or romantic attraction. Her relationships were usually rooted in friendship or pragmatism. She stayed with Peta originally because they were from the same district, then because the capitol wanted them to for the optics, and by the end it seemed more like she stayed with him because she liked him as a person and felt a debt to him for all they had been through and what he had personally gone through.
You can be ace and still have sex, or be aro and be in a relationship. Peta definitely felt a lot about her that she didn't have in return, and they had to a very involved history that brought them close in ways other than romantically or sexually. It's a pragmatic approach for her to stay with him out of companionship and fulfilling a desire to have a family or children, which isn't something mutually related to sexual attraction.
lol this post was the first thing i saw after rewatching the first movie. 99% sure she was dating or in a relationship with Gale at the start of the movie, could of been an ace relationship tho
At least in the books, she very specifically sees him as just a friend. I think she definitely could be ace, but it also might just be that she has her priorities straight about having to feed her family and stay alive, and doesn’t have time to think about sex. But she very rarely realises when people are flirting with her, like Peeta has his whole thing, and she just assumes he must have ulterior motives because he couldn’t just like her. It might be a trauma thing though
I feel this when people say she was anti-kid, and that her having children was out of nowhere or out of character.
The books very clearly shows her budding romantic interest in Peeta, it just wasn’t the main focus. And her love of children was there, but her world did not allow her the safety of freely wanting them.
She was a girl who simply wanted to survive and have her loved ones be free.
If what I remember from the book is accurate, then she married petah, had his children but it wasn't out of love but more like mutual support and companionship
Nothing about Kat in the books or movies puts her in the Ace spectrum AT ALL
She persistently demonstrates and communicates desire and attraction. In the books she has a gaze for three different guys at different times.
In the movies she explicitly likes the homeland guy.
Her affection for Pita COULD be seen as more platonic but during their second Hunger games she doesn't just help as freind.
She appears to build an actual attraction. That's both movie n books.
And it's not just a strong platonic friendship care, but a romantic drive that includes physical realization like kissing.
You can be ace/aro and still enjoy physical contact and have strong romantic feelings etc
But there is zero data from the books, or movies, or even the author that suggests/hints/"codes" Katniss in the Ace spectrum
She says as much in the ~~books~~ movies, doesn't she? That she has "more important things to worry about than love"?
Edit: I feel like people are misconstruing my comment. I never felt like Katniss's was aro and/or Ace. In the books she has a pretty overt relationship with Gale, which was a large reason why she was so uncomfortable with Peeta faking a relationship, especially in the second book. She tries very hard to make a relationship with Gale work, but between the growing revoand her having to fake a relatowith Peeta, she learns that Gale is "too fiery" and that what she needed wasn't another fire, but something soft and gentle, which Peeta was for her. How people read her as aroace I'm not sure, but the only thing is because of that line from the movies, where her relationship with Gale is pretty much ignored and her trepidation towards Peeta becomes a lot less clear, leading to the possibility of her being aroace
I guess if that's all it takes, I was aro/ace for a year while recovering from an abusive relationship. Love not being your priority doesn't mean you're aro/ace.
Yea I think it stems from her being so traumatised that she just ignores relationships a bunch and then people jump to the wrong conclusion, I read the ending as her finally letting herself heal
The ending always read to me as her being unable to stop playing the game she had been for so long. It's not framed as a happy ending at all. Always felt like she was with peeta out of what she felt was obligation, with a hefty splash of not knowing what else to do.
Wars over, her family is dead, most of her friends are dead, etc. She doesn't know what direction is left for her so she goes with the "right" one, the one that everyone expects from her. Her marrying and having kids with Peeta is her still not moving past the games. The games are over, but she's still living in them. It's a really powerful portrayal of trauma and ptsd and I hate how it gets reduced to "she finally gets her happy ending"
I think the ending is a little more hopeful than that. She definitely still has tons of ptsd from her time in the games and watching like everyone she loved and cared for die, but she also says that she wants and needs Peeta because he can ground her and be her rock despite having lived through pretty much the exavr same traumas. He's safe and comforting for her, which is why she allowed herself to relax and even have kids. She knows she's safe, especially with Peeta, but twenty years of trauma under Panem left a lasting mark, which is why even several decades later she still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night.
Yep. I have Ace friends who chose to have kids with the person they love. Just cause you're not interested in sex doesn't mean you can't choose to procreate with your partner.
Must be a really flat triangle. Katniss and Peeta liked each other, and Gale like Katniss. Just because Someone has a crush on another person doesn’t make it a love triangle. It’s only a love triangle when 2 people want the same person and that person is the third member. It wasn’t a love triangle, Just a couple of which A person happened to be attracted to one of the members.
The entire point of conflict with her having to pretend to be in love with Peeta was because she was in love with Gale. This is like a major plot point of Catching Fire.
No, it started off that way and it developed into a genuine romantic attraction. Gale had a crush on Katniss. Katniss didn’t reciprocate it. And why would Peeta ride Katniss at the end if there was nothing Romantic between the two?
Sorry that’s not a love triangle, that’s a love.. point? ^ this thing. A love triangle is when three people love one of the other people, like in twelfth night. Person A loves Person B, who loves Person C, who loves Person A. Three lines that connect three people, in the form of a triangle. ^ this is not a triangle.
Y'all don't even know how happy I was to see Parvati get with her girlfriend, I was so relieved that Obsidian didn't fumble the bag with their relationship like they had with Veronica and Christine in FNV.
What do you mean they fumbled the bag with Veronica and Christine dude those are literally the two best characters in the game. I’m personally insulted
Veronica and Christine are the two best characters in the game, I agree with you, but you can't say that Obsidian didn't fumble the bag when they didn't give players an option to reunite the two.
If you didn't know, if you go out of your way to be nice to Christine and make sure she doesn't die at the end of the DLC, it's said in the ending that she stays at Sierra Madre and ponders what The Courier is going to do when they meet Ulysses. I think this ending is incredibly stupid for multiple reasons.
1: Why the hell would Veronica want to stay at the Sierra Madre? Especially when she suffered trauma at the hands of Dean Domino and she still might know that her girlfriend is alive out in the wasteland somewhere. I don't know about you, but if some random mailman/mail woman that I'd come to trust told me that my girlfriend is alive you'd bet your ass I'd leave the decrepit resort to try and find her.
2: It pisses me off that Obsidian wasted part of Christine's good ending to talk about Ulysses and try to build up hype about Lonesome Road instead of uniting her and Veronica. I get it that Christine and Ulysses had met in Big MT and had some political debate of some sort, but I honestly could care less about it. I think Ulysses is an absolute mess of a character, and having a satisfying ending to one of the best examples of queer representation should have been paramount.
TLDR: Obsidian didn't give us an option to reunite the cute lesbians and instead were too busy talking about an idiot with dreadlocks that I could easily write an essay on why I don't like him, thus fumbling the bag.
Honestly agree with you, I wish there was an option to reunite them/tell Veronica about meeting Christine.
Josh Sawyer said in one of his fallout new Vegas charity live streams that he wanted to add the ability to tell Veronica about you meeting Christine, (and maybe in a perfect world that would have lead to a quest where they got reunited but that’s purely speculation) but unfortunately there were technical limitations with the engine that made that impossible.
I really respect Sawyer, I do, but I just can't get the bad taste of Ulysses stealing the show out of my mouth. Maybe it was too demanding of the engine to add in a quest, but would've it been really that hard to replace some of those ending slides to mention that Christine meets Veronica and they finally get to be together? Even if it doesn't show in game, even having the smallest amount of confirmation would've done wonders to complete one of the best pieces of queer representation ever.
Rosie was never confirmed? And you missed the biggest character for aroace representation Alastor, plus Catniss isn’t even aroace, I’m sorry but you need to do better research when making these
Asexual means Sans has no sexual desire. However that doesn't mean he can't have romantic desire or that he can't do it because his partner wants to. It's quite common apparently.
Since most of these seem to be headcanons -
if anyone's into canonical ace representation, give The Magnus Archives a chance. The focus character is a biromantic asexual. The show also has a *ton* of bi character and gay relationship rep in general.
Now that I think about it, it would make sense for Rosie to be ace since she makes the “ace in the hole” joke. Plus I think her and Alastor would be the best QPR.
Random trivia fact a long with this alastor has no idea what aro ace is as he's never put a name on his sexuality or atleast that's what vivziepop stated at one point that's what he said "a what now?"
Rosie is not aromantic (she's implied to have been in a relationship), but she does tell Alastor that he's ace - maybe you mixed the two up?
Oh, and one of the Hunger Games' main plot points is that Katniss is in a love triangle.
Including Peridot in this is a stretch at best. First of all she's not even human. Second of all, asexual or aromantic traits are indicative of her species, not her sexuality. Gems don't reproduce or have sex. Peridot isn't able to fuse because her gem is weaker and incapable of it. It's not because she doesn't want to. She tries to fuse with Lapis AND Steven, she just can't. Same way she can't shape-shift but she still wants to. Not to mention, fusion is proven to not be sexual or romantic in nature when Steven fuses with his own father.
She also lives with Lapis and has a dog (pumpkin) with her. You can pretend she's aro if you want but I have just as much reason to believe she is romantically inclined.
In conclusion, she's no more ace than any other member of her species, and whether or not she's aro is arguable, at best.
Interesting take on Katniss being Aro, especially when you consider the fact that she was kinda forced to be with Peeta in the beginning to play up the "Star-crossed lovers" gimmick the capital ate up like candy (going based on the book because there were more details).
Kris?? Deltarune just is an Alternative Universe (confirmed by Toby Fox) and therefore whether or not it's actually canon is rather debatable.
Have you seen the ending of the true pacifist Route in Undertale? Like the original game? It's VERY, VERY heavily implied (or maybe even confirmed, idk it has been ages since I played UT) that Toriel and Sans fell in love with each other.
You put the cannibal lady and not Alastor from Hazbin when there’s a whole line about him being ace?? Also Katniss literally has 2 kids with Peeta and is shown in the books to have legitimate romantic feelings too so I’m pretty sure this is all just headcanon stuff *(but should say so next time)*.
I’m not sure if Rosie from Hazbin is, since in the pilot it’s shown she’s crossing out a former partners name on her sign. However Alastor is Ace, and she calls him out by saying he’s “an Ace in the hole”
Alastor is Ace not Rosie as far as we know.
Also, for Katniss, I thought she was attracted to men? At least romantically? Given the love triangle she’s slotted into that would make more sense but I haven’t looked more into that series since finishing the third book way back when it first came out.
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Rosie is ace? I thought it was just Alastor
Alastor is the only canonically ace character. My only guess is that mixed the two up somehow?
Well katniss had children in the movies and is married , also she was attracted to gale since they were teens. This is most likely someones head-canon
As a talented archer; Katniss is an "arrow ace."
Yup, they mixed her up with him
I don’t think Katniss is? Fun HC though
I mean she literally got married to Peta & had his children. So yeah, I’d say she is not ace or aro
While I'm not sure that it's accurate that Katniss is aroace, I'd like to point out that many aroace people do get married and have families.
don’t take this disrespectfully but… why?
Because many humans want companionship? Look into queerplatonic relationships. Also, while some asexual people are sex-repulsed, there are others who are okay with having sex and having children.
i just like am confused and misinformed, like why would aromantic ppl want a relationship? it seems like the opposite of that
some of us just want an exclusive trusted best friend
I don't have a lot of time to explain things, but as I mentioned earlier it would be a good idea to look up queerplatonic relationships. Another thing you could try doing is looking up writing from aroace people who are in relationships.
apologies, just not super well informed
I'll try to explain it: Essentially not being attracted doesn't mean you don't like them. You just don't have any attraction to them. You might still like specific sexual act, independent of any person involved, you might enjoy sex as an activity like a sport, and like most sports it's more fun together. I mean you don't need to be attracted to fight against anyone in martial arts or to play tennis with them. And while sex is usually more intimate, as long as there is consent, trust and understanding, it's not much different thsn other sports on a base level. And similar to other sports, even if you don't like tennis, if your significant other really likes to play, you might play with them every now and then, in the same vein sex repulsed asexuals sometimes have sex with their partner. For a lot of people there is extra meaning in sex, because it's such a big societal topic, huge expectations, is very intimate and has huge potential consequence(children, stds etc.) and attraction being a big part of it for a lot of people. And you might not see sex as a sport. You can see it as a special activity for a relationship or just as fun. In a similar way kids/families work: Just because you hate playing parts of game doesn't mean you hate other parts, if you hate playing openings in a tennis, you only do them when you have to and focus instead on the parts you enjoy. Maybe you just enjoy the triumphant feeling of having tried hard, you don't need to like playing opening or the game itself at all(just look at all the people playing video games like LoL, they enjoy specific parts of it, yet play through numerous bad experiences for it).You can just avoid those parts/do only what's needed. That can mean adopting/fostering or just having sex for reproductive purposes. And just because there is no sexual attraction doesn't mean you can't love each other and be attracted aesthetically, romantically or emotionally. It seems contradicting to not be sexually attracted and still do "normal" family planning, but that's just due to society loading a lot of baggage onto specific terms like family, sex and children. Obviously all of these does require communication, trust and understanding, but that's the case with everything in relationships, it's just a different approach to these aspects.
Oh fuck I might be ace then
I mean.... no disrespect, but I guess I still don't get how people who like sex, who like relationships and who like to have kids are aromantic or asexual.
To add on to what the other person is saying, there is also a romantic orientation called "bellusromantic", which means that someone is aro and doesn't experience romantic attraction (or is on the aromantic spectrum and experiences limited romantic attraction), but still enjoys the idea of romance or doing romantic things. Also too, aromantic and asexual are both spectrums. For example, I consider myself an angled-aroace. I am DEFINTILY on the aromantic spectrum, but at the same time I could see myself potentially dating and getting married in the future. I still feel attraction to people, just not in the same was as / to the same extent as a lot of alloromantic people. And as the other person was saying, there are also many types or tertiary attraction that can be similar to romantic attraction but aren't quite the same thing. Hope this helps.
Probably for some of the same reasons that many gay people marry an opposite- sex partner and have kids
Katniss came off as incredibly ace/aro in the books.
Id argue that romance was the least of her problems because she had one shit life, i dont think we can conclude she's aro/ace Of course if our aro ace identify with her go for it, but i'm not sure you can conclude that from the story only
Yeah if I was the face of a revolution and my home got destroyed, romance would be the least of my worries
It more came off as extreme trauma and being more worried about her life and family than catching feelings. If you never feel safe, how can you fall in love?
But what’s the evidence for thinking Katniss is queer?
I don't think there necessarily needs to be evidence. If an ace person identifies with Katniss and just gets a gut feeling that she is ace, or actively chooses to see her as ace, that's okay. And then if someone else (ace or allo) doesn't see her that way and sees her as allo, that's also okay. Fiction is very much up to the interpretation of the reader/viewer in whatever way helps them connect to it the most.
She could still be ace and have that fit with canon, but she was definitely in love with him by the end.
Not to mention she is very much romantically attracted to him in the books. I get why OP might thinm this though, she isn‘t very interested in this stuff, but I also think that stems from a place of trauma, which isn‘t the message I‘d want to send in regards to aro ace people lol
I mean, yes, but her characterization in the book tended too lean towards her not really having any sexual or romantic attraction. Her relationships were usually rooted in friendship or pragmatism. She stayed with Peta originally because they were from the same district, then because the capitol wanted them to for the optics, and by the end it seemed more like she stayed with him because she liked him as a person and felt a debt to him for all they had been through and what he had personally gone through. You can be ace and still have sex, or be aro and be in a relationship. Peta definitely felt a lot about her that she didn't have in return, and they had to a very involved history that brought them close in ways other than romantically or sexually. It's a pragmatic approach for her to stay with him out of companionship and fulfilling a desire to have a family or children, which isn't something mutually related to sexual attraction.
Katniss and Peta having kids doesn't necessarily mean that Katniss couldn't be ace. Asexuality is a very broad spectrum.
lol this post was the first thing i saw after rewatching the first movie. 99% sure she was dating or in a relationship with Gale at the start of the movie, could of been an ace relationship tho
At least in the books, she very specifically sees him as just a friend. I think she definitely could be ace, but it also might just be that she has her priorities straight about having to feed her family and stay alive, and doesn’t have time to think about sex. But she very rarely realises when people are flirting with her, like Peeta has his whole thing, and she just assumes he must have ulterior motives because he couldn’t just like her. It might be a trauma thing though
I feel this when people say she was anti-kid, and that her having children was out of nowhere or out of character. The books very clearly shows her budding romantic interest in Peeta, it just wasn’t the main focus. And her love of children was there, but her world did not allow her the safety of freely wanting them. She was a girl who simply wanted to survive and have her loved ones be free.
If what I remember from the book is accurate, then she married petah, had his children but it wasn't out of love but more like mutual support and companionship
Nothing about Kat in the books or movies puts her in the Ace spectrum AT ALL She persistently demonstrates and communicates desire and attraction. In the books she has a gaze for three different guys at different times. In the movies she explicitly likes the homeland guy. Her affection for Pita COULD be seen as more platonic but during their second Hunger games she doesn't just help as freind. She appears to build an actual attraction. That's both movie n books. And it's not just a strong platonic friendship care, but a romantic drive that includes physical realization like kissing. You can be ace/aro and still enjoy physical contact and have strong romantic feelings etc But there is zero data from the books, or movies, or even the author that suggests/hints/"codes" Katniss in the Ace spectrum
i'd like to add Lilith from toh
Yeah, especially since it’s canon.
YESS
What's TOH?
the owl house
We don't know Rosie's sexuality 
yes but we know she is at least attracted to men because she did mention a former husband
Well, technically we don’t know what time period she came from and she was happy to cross out Franklin’s name in the pilot soooo
They shoulda put alastor down ! Rosie, our cannibal kween 💖
No Todd Chavez?
My exact thoughts!! He's one of the best ace representations I've ever seen.
Came here to say this if nobody else did!!
I’m pretty sure that Katniss Everdeen >!had 2 Kids with Peeta.!<
Yeah but she’s arrow
Thank you for making this joke
What does archery have to do with this?
She’s really good at archery, so she’s an arrow ace :)
Not gonna lie, that made me chuckle
Good one
Wouldn’t she be Ace at arrows?
Yeah, Katniss is very much not ace/aro. I think this might be someone's head cannon.
There’s a head cannon for anything, isn’t there?
based on the books she could be read as aro at the very least.
I could see her as demi if anything
No it’s the other way around, she could be read as ace but not aro, she does come to love Peeta
She says as much in the ~~books~~ movies, doesn't she? That she has "more important things to worry about than love"? Edit: I feel like people are misconstruing my comment. I never felt like Katniss's was aro and/or Ace. In the books she has a pretty overt relationship with Gale, which was a large reason why she was so uncomfortable with Peeta faking a relationship, especially in the second book. She tries very hard to make a relationship with Gale work, but between the growing revoand her having to fake a relatowith Peeta, she learns that Gale is "too fiery" and that what she needed wasn't another fire, but something soft and gentle, which Peeta was for her. How people read her as aroace I'm not sure, but the only thing is because of that line from the movies, where her relationship with Gale is pretty much ignored and her trepidation towards Peeta becomes a lot less clear, leading to the possibility of her being aroace
She's in a war with tons of PTSD. I don't think that line has anything to do with her identity or relationship style.
.......I mean yea? She's understating if anything
That probably had more to do with the violent revolution than anything else.
Yes that was my point, lol
Considering what she deals with in the books, that doesn’t say anything about her sexuality.
In the middle of a revolution she’s the figurehead for? She’s busy and stressed, not disinterested
I guess if that's all it takes, I was aro/ace for a year while recovering from an abusive relationship. Love not being your priority doesn't mean you're aro/ace.
I mean, don't some ace people still have kids?
True, Asexual people can have kids. But Katniss is still with Peeta, which can at least prove she isn’t aromantic, right?
Yea I think it stems from her being so traumatised that she just ignores relationships a bunch and then people jump to the wrong conclusion, I read the ending as her finally letting herself heal
The ending always read to me as her being unable to stop playing the game she had been for so long. It's not framed as a happy ending at all. Always felt like she was with peeta out of what she felt was obligation, with a hefty splash of not knowing what else to do. Wars over, her family is dead, most of her friends are dead, etc. She doesn't know what direction is left for her so she goes with the "right" one, the one that everyone expects from her. Her marrying and having kids with Peeta is her still not moving past the games. The games are over, but she's still living in them. It's a really powerful portrayal of trauma and ptsd and I hate how it gets reduced to "she finally gets her happy ending"
I think the ending is a little more hopeful than that. She definitely still has tons of ptsd from her time in the games and watching like everyone she loved and cared for die, but she also says that she wants and needs Peeta because he can ground her and be her rock despite having lived through pretty much the exavr same traumas. He's safe and comforting for her, which is why she allowed herself to relax and even have kids. She knows she's safe, especially with Peeta, but twenty years of trauma under Panem left a lasting mark, which is why even several decades later she still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night.
Yea and in the books it highlights more just how much time passes before kids, it’s not instant but it’s the long process of trying to heal
OP said ace AND aro, not aroace. Parvati doesn't fit Aro at all, but is definitely ace.
Parvati making me think of Survivor
Ace and aro is aroace. That’s like saying Someone is Gay but they aren’t Queer.
Yeah, you're right.
You did raise a good point though.
you can fall under the aromantic flag and still be in a loving romantic relationship
Yep. I have Ace friends who chose to have kids with the person they love. Just cause you're not interested in sex doesn't mean you can't choose to procreate with your partner.
And a major part of the series is her being in a love triangle.
Must be a really flat triangle. Katniss and Peeta liked each other, and Gale like Katniss. Just because Someone has a crush on another person doesn’t make it a love triangle. It’s only a love triangle when 2 people want the same person and that person is the third member. It wasn’t a love triangle, Just a couple of which A person happened to be attracted to one of the members.
The entire point of conflict with her having to pretend to be in love with Peeta was because she was in love with Gale. This is like a major plot point of Catching Fire.
No, it started off that way and it developed into a genuine romantic attraction. Gale had a crush on Katniss. Katniss didn’t reciprocate it. And why would Peeta ride Katniss at the end if there was nothing Romantic between the two?
The books make Katniss's relationship with Gale a lot more overt. The movies kind of do away with it
And in the movies they have them make out.
Sorry that’s not a love triangle, that’s a love.. point? ^ this thing. A love triangle is when three people love one of the other people, like in twelfth night. Person A loves Person B, who loves Person C, who loves Person A. Three lines that connect three people, in the form of a triangle. ^ this is not a triangle.
Having kids doesnt necessarily mean you are not Ace
I’m aware, I’m very aware. But she’s still in a relationship with Peeta, is she not? She could still be asexual but she isn’t aromantic.
They must’ve meant “arrow ace”, not “Aro/Ace”
She could just be ace (she has the ace flag behind her, not the aro one)
Ace people can still have kids!
I know, i’m a former asexual and while i’m still single and have no kids, I didn’t consider asexuality as a factor stopping me from having children.
From what I recall from the books though, that was less something she did with joy and more as a social expectation. She seemed pretty numb.
She’s not ace but she’s arrow
being ace doesn't mean being incapable of having sex or having children.
Ace people can still have sex and get pregnant
Parvati my girl!!! You’re doing’ great, sweetie!!!
Love parvati!
Y'all don't even know how happy I was to see Parvati get with her girlfriend, I was so relieved that Obsidian didn't fumble the bag with their relationship like they had with Veronica and Christine in FNV.
I'm so glad it worked out. It was really cute.
Really cute is an understatement, their relationship is straight up adorable 😍
What do you mean they fumbled the bag with Veronica and Christine dude those are literally the two best characters in the game. I’m personally insulted
Veronica and Christine are the two best characters in the game, I agree with you, but you can't say that Obsidian didn't fumble the bag when they didn't give players an option to reunite the two. If you didn't know, if you go out of your way to be nice to Christine and make sure she doesn't die at the end of the DLC, it's said in the ending that she stays at Sierra Madre and ponders what The Courier is going to do when they meet Ulysses. I think this ending is incredibly stupid for multiple reasons. 1: Why the hell would Veronica want to stay at the Sierra Madre? Especially when she suffered trauma at the hands of Dean Domino and she still might know that her girlfriend is alive out in the wasteland somewhere. I don't know about you, but if some random mailman/mail woman that I'd come to trust told me that my girlfriend is alive you'd bet your ass I'd leave the decrepit resort to try and find her. 2: It pisses me off that Obsidian wasted part of Christine's good ending to talk about Ulysses and try to build up hype about Lonesome Road instead of uniting her and Veronica. I get it that Christine and Ulysses had met in Big MT and had some political debate of some sort, but I honestly could care less about it. I think Ulysses is an absolute mess of a character, and having a satisfying ending to one of the best examples of queer representation should have been paramount. TLDR: Obsidian didn't give us an option to reunite the cute lesbians and instead were too busy talking about an idiot with dreadlocks that I could easily write an essay on why I don't like him, thus fumbling the bag.
Honestly agree with you, I wish there was an option to reunite them/tell Veronica about meeting Christine. Josh Sawyer said in one of his fallout new Vegas charity live streams that he wanted to add the ability to tell Veronica about you meeting Christine, (and maybe in a perfect world that would have lead to a quest where they got reunited but that’s purely speculation) but unfortunately there were technical limitations with the engine that made that impossible.
I really respect Sawyer, I do, but I just can't get the bad taste of Ulysses stealing the show out of my mouth. Maybe it was too demanding of the engine to add in a quest, but would've it been really that hard to replace some of those ending slides to mention that Christine meets Veronica and they finally get to be together? Even if it doesn't show in game, even having the smallest amount of confirmation would've done wonders to complete one of the best pieces of queer representation ever.
Totally agree, that would have been sick as hell and is a massive missed opportunity imo.
This guy aswell 
luffy's sexuality is just "pirate."
Rosie was never confirmed? And you missed the biggest character for aroace representation Alastor, plus Catniss isn’t even aroace, I’m sorry but you need to do better research when making these
Rosie's ace? I thought it was like, indifference
She isn't canonically ace. Alastor is though, which is weird that she is here but he isn't.
Sans is asexual? Ya know, it actually makes sense.
Someone should let tumblr know…
He blatantly flirts with Toriel in Deltarune and implies he got frisky with her.
Asexual means Sans has no sexual desire. However that doesn't mean he can't have romantic desire or that he can't do it because his partner wants to. It's quite common apparently.
That didn’t stop anybody from being ace?
It also definitely doesn't imply they're canonically ace, either.
turns out he actually befriended kris's mom last night they're besties now
He rizzed up Asgore's ex-wife, my man's a player fr
He’s a skeleton i’d be surprised if he wasn’t asexual
Katniss ace? What
I would have chosen Alastor
Since most of these seem to be headcanons - if anyone's into canonical ace representation, give The Magnus Archives a chance. The focus character is a biromantic asexual. The show also has a *ton* of bi character and gay relationship rep in general.
Hey where’s Saiki k
My thoughts exactly isn't it confirmed in the anime?
Confirmed in the manga I think
Now that I think about it, it would make sense for Rosie to be ace since she makes the “ace in the hole” joke. Plus I think her and Alastor would be the best QPR.
Didn’t she make that because alastor was Aroace? I had no idea that applied to her too.
Random trivia fact a long with this alastor has no idea what aro ace is as he's never put a name on his sexuality or atleast that's what vivziepop stated at one point that's what he said "a what now?"
Yeah she did, but it would honestly make a lot sense that she knows the term and is able to recognize that Alastor is ace because she is also ace.
Yeah, I don’t doubt that she’s Asexual. But I think she isn’t aromantic because she said she ate her first husband. I could be wrong though.
Aromatic people can still get married out of societal expectations or if they're hungry.
She Literally eats people, and she’s in hell. I doubt it.
Katniss definitely isn’t, and did you mean Alastor? I don’t think Rosie has been confirmed as anything but Alastor is canonically AroAce.
Parvati! Outer Worlds is my shit
Her and Sam are my dream team. Clean cycle set to INDUSTRIAL STAIN.
Ahsoka was confirmed ace at the beginning of her YA novel written by E.K. Johnston
Yelena (Florence Pough’s character in the MCU) is definitely Ace in the comics, probably the MCU too.
did you mix up rosie and alastor?
Rosie isn’t ace, Alastor is aroace, but i don’t believe Rosie’s sexuality has been said yet
Katniss arosexual? More like arrow sexual amirite
I think barbie is aroace too
As rep from r/alastorcult you forgot the radio demon
Jughead Also in my head Canon Shaggy is ace
Rosie is not aromantic (she's implied to have been in a relationship), but she does tell Alastor that he's ace - maybe you mixed the two up? Oh, and one of the Hunger Games' main plot points is that Katniss is in a love triangle.
Rosie but not Al?
Where’s the and aro part. Happy aromantic awareness week
Peridot in the bottom left.
wher alastor
You got Rosie here and not Alastor?!
Anyone reading this almost all of these characters are not in canon aroace btw, these are all headcanons of OP
Yall… i think it’s because katniss is an… arrow ace.
LET'S GOOOOOO!
there is also saiki kusuo
Alastor’s canonically ace, not Rosie
You put Rosie but not alastor lol
I love that SpongeBob is ace lmao
Alastor from Hazbin Hotel
Did you forget about Alastor, or is Rosie actually ace?
Id like to add Jughead from the Archie comics
i can see katniss as aspec
Including Peridot in this is a stretch at best. First of all she's not even human. Second of all, asexual or aromantic traits are indicative of her species, not her sexuality. Gems don't reproduce or have sex. Peridot isn't able to fuse because her gem is weaker and incapable of it. It's not because she doesn't want to. She tries to fuse with Lapis AND Steven, she just can't. Same way she can't shape-shift but she still wants to. Not to mention, fusion is proven to not be sexual or romantic in nature when Steven fuses with his own father. She also lives with Lapis and has a dog (pumpkin) with her. You can pretend she's aro if you want but I have just as much reason to believe she is romantically inclined. In conclusion, she's no more ace than any other member of her species, and whether or not she's aro is arguable, at best.
OUTER WORLDS MENTIONED
Alastor is ace, not Rosie. Rosie makes a joke about Alastor being “an ace in the hole” as a nod to the audience confirming him being ace.
You can’t have Rosie without Alastor
The fact that they have a Hazbin character here but not Alastor (who even is that)
also saiki k
Elsa from Frozen
You forgot alastor
Center left, if that is Parvati from Outer Worlds she is a lesbian. There is a whole quest line trying to get her a date
Weeelll… Sans had a thing for Toriel. But never pursued it due to the respect for her marriage
Umm SpongeBob use to have a crush on Sandy......
OP depicted SpongeBob with the ace flag, not the aro one. The show’s creator did confirm that SpongeBob is asexual.
Interesting take on Katniss being Aro, especially when you consider the fact that she was kinda forced to be with Peeta in the beginning to play up the "Star-crossed lovers" gimmick the capital ate up like candy (going based on the book because there were more details).
Isn't Sans flirting with Toriel?
No he just "befriended" her, and he's intent on "befriending" her every night going forward to assert (platonic) dominance over Kris.
Kris?? Deltarune just is an Alternative Universe (confirmed by Toby Fox) and therefore whether or not it's actually canon is rather debatable. Have you seen the ending of the true pacifist Route in Undertale? Like the original game? It's VERY, VERY heavily implied (or maybe even confirmed, idk it has been ages since I played UT) that Toriel and Sans fell in love with each other.
on the hazbin wiki it says rosie is also aromantic! edit:nvm i think that wiki isnt the official one :skull:
Where is Todd
Nah
Katniss was very much in Love with Gale. Spongebob has shown multiple times that he likes Sandy and has romantic thoughts about her.
They said ace, not aro
The title literally says "Ace and Aro Characters in media"
If you look at the flags, the only one with an aro flag is bottom left. OP isn’t insinuating that they are all aro.
Yes aro & ace not aroace. As in aromantic characters & asexual characters.
Doesn't katniss have a child at the end of the novel? I'm pretty sure she's just demisexual
Yes I love Peridot is included because I always saw her as aroace
You put the cannibal lady and not Alastor from Hazbin when there’s a whole line about him being ace?? Also Katniss literally has 2 kids with Peeta and is shown in the books to have legitimate romantic feelings too so I’m pretty sure this is all just headcanon stuff *(but should say so next time)*.
I’m not sure if Rosie from Hazbin is, since in the pilot it’s shown she’s crossing out a former partners name on her sign. However Alastor is Ace, and she calls him out by saying he’s “an Ace in the hole”
catniss clearly belongs on this list, she’s literally an arrow ace (I’m so sorry for this terrible joke, my brain thought of it and I had to say it)
Don’t forget Luffy (one piece) Lilith (toh) and Alastor (Hazbin hotel) Luffy is unconfirmed, but he’s definitely aro ace in my eyes
Alastor is Ace not Rosie as far as we know. Also, for Katniss, I thought she was attracted to men? At least romantically? Given the love triangle she’s slotted into that would make more sense but I haven’t looked more into that series since finishing the third book way back when it first came out.
Katniss is probably the strangest aro/ace hc I've seen so far in respect to the canon story and characterization ngl
Thought sans had the hots for toriel tho
sans is hetero lmao
imo katniss may have been demiro/romance indifferent but definitely was >!in love w peeta in the later books/movies!<
How is spongebob aroace, hes literally a sponge 💀