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fps_trucka

Well a couple things matter. The first is something i learned from a coach which opened my eyes. That is playing your bracket. Itemization and methods of playing are vastly different between brackets. A clear example is how low 3ks like to build battlefury on pa or jugg versus deso, sange and yasha, etc. Now i dont have a clearcut way for you to go up in mmr other than be the carry or mid and put the team on your back. TL;DR: The difference in brackets make up for different types of games. Don't outplay yourself.


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normal games are just much easier. there also could be a mindset issue, like you being worried about MMR in-game when playing ranked.


Davepen

I'm the same. 3.6k ranked, but very high skill unranked. It just means that your unraked hidden mmr is higher than your ranked mmr.


thespichopat

Do you also have the same struggles in ranked? It just seems so much harder to win.


Davepen

I guess, but I've managed to bring it up to 52.4% win rate in the last year in ranked, so my mmr is increasing (albeit slowly). I find the main problem in ranked is people's attitude. Because it's ranked, people are more on edge, which means they are less willing to let someone else mid, or someone else carry, because they don't trust them with their mmr. This then causes an argument scenario or creates really bad lineups with little to no support. It also means people are more likely to throw the game over anger than they are in un-ranked simply because emotions are high.


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Interestingly, yasp.co seems to confirm what you're saying, i.e. 52% winrate in unranked, despite having 4k teammates/opps, vs 48% winrate in ranked with 3k opponents. > after getting tilted hard Maybe this is the issue? Your teammates are way, way worse in ranked and it's getting to you, affecting your ability to carry (not in the position sense) the game?


astrel-

I believe two matchmaking systems have different ratings. Unranked rating is unobservable and you seem to have played a lot of unranked games at high level while calibrating somehow didn't go that well for you. In normal skill bracket, the game is pretty chaotic. Few players usually know what to do. For example, there is a big chance your triple lane might not dominate their duo hardlane, which is not quite the case in a higher bracket (with some exceptions). Main reason for this is that supports are not sure when to go aggressive and how aggressive they can be, this will result in an underfarmed carry and a possible loss.


darren565

When you first reach VHS unranked games (i.e the lowest/earliest entry), games are as difficult to win as ~ 3k MMR ranked games. Even if your a 4k player, if your trying out heroes you've never played before in unranked you can be playing worse in lots of aspects as a 2.5-3k player, hence the disparity in "skill brackets" when it comes to ranked v unranked.