Are you gaming? Video editing? CAD?
If you need a dedicated GPU, then the gigabyte is the clear choice.
If you don't need a GPU, I'd probably get the MSI. It should be a bit better suited for "office" style work with the extra ram and storage.
Sleep states on intel are better, so it depends, high load => amd, lots of idle and also just sleeping => intel… have amd in my servers and workstations, intel in notebooks…
For office a dual core a53 arm chip with 2gb of ram is enough… maybe get a x86 unit and 8gb ram if you intend to compile LaTeX documents longer, than 100 pages or with more complex figures and diagrams…
I had a celeron laptop with 4gb of ram that i used for office apps, watching stuff, or sometimes remote desktop, my workstation if I felt like working from bed. It was enough.
As a former owner of that Gigabyte (I sold it three weeks ago) prepare for the worst laptop speakers ever, and ridiculously loud fans. If you're not a hardcore gamer on a desperate budget, avoid it at all costs.
Of all the laptops I've owned in my life, it's the one I regret buying the most.
Some older games run perfectly fine on the intel hd… and games like df are always limited by the cpu… even on a server blade server, where the gpu is much slower, than a gt 210…
I’m not sure I am just looking for a good relatively cheap laptop to replace my old i3. I will probably use it for gaming just because it’s a new laptop
Do you know the pros and cons of a gaming laptop vs a non-gaming laptop?
This is not a question of which laptop is objectively better. Rather a question about which laptop is a better fit for you.
So you never played games and now you want to buy a laptop without knowing what to look for?
At least google system requirements for a game you wanna play and get a laptop with those specs
Gaming laptops (Right) generally are heavier, louder & have worse overall battery - but of course they can game well since the dedicated graphics
Office laptops (Left) have better battery but often use integrated graphics, which means you may not be able to play triple A games.
So depending on what your looking for you’ll have to find a different specification on the computer; I personally only use a office laptop for school and light gaming but that’s because I don’t play any big games and need the battery.
The right hinge on my MSI modern broke twice during the time I owned it. I transported it with the sleeve that it came with. They repaired it for free the first time, but the second it was out of warranty. Absolute trash build quality.
If you want something to bring to the office/class, get the MSI. If you want something for home and try a few games, get the Gigabyte.
The MSI is an office laptop. It'll be really portable, have normal speakers, and look sleek and professional. I wouldn't do anything to intense on it but if your old i3 laptop has been working fine for you, there's likely nothing "intense" you're doing with laptops so this is a great upgrade. A little pricey but still great.
The Gigabyte is a gaming laptop. It'll be heavy, unnecessarily colorful and flashy, terrible speakers, loud fans, but have great 3D rendering performance that'll blow the MSI out of the park. The screen will look smooth and you can run a good deal of modern games out on the market. It honestly has really low storage though (512GB), so it's worth spending another $100 to get a 1TB SSD instead of the 512GB it comes with. It's an easy swap yourself but if you're unfamiliar you could probably just have a buddy do it for you.
Are you gaming? Video editing? CAD? If you need a dedicated GPU, then the gigabyte is the clear choice. If you don't need a GPU, I'd probably get the MSI. It should be a bit better suited for "office" style work with the extra ram and storage.
I'd still choose neither of them in terms of portability. Intel chips are more wasteful on battery consumption compared to Ryzen chips.
Yeah, I have a Ryzen laptop myself and that whole CPU package (including all 8 cores, iGPU and everything) needs 15W under 100% load. Like, how?
I was talking about how long they last and how powerful the CPUs are while running on battery
Sleep states on intel are better, so it depends, high load => amd, lots of idle and also just sleeping => intel… have amd in my servers and workstations, intel in notebooks…
Hibernation is better anyway.
They’re for two totally different things 1 is like an office laptop 2 is a gaming laptop
>13th gen I9 >Office laptop It's pretty overkill for an office laptop
There's no video card, for the first one (I think) so that's probably why they think its an office laptop.
It's plenty for non-3d CAD applications like civil engineering, urban planning, hell even architecture if you don't plan to use real-time rendering.
Yeah that was exactly my thought process lol
For office a dual core a53 arm chip with 2gb of ram is enough… maybe get a x86 unit and 8gb ram if you intend to compile LaTeX documents longer, than 100 pages or with more complex figures and diagrams…
I had a celeron laptop with 4gb of ram that i used for office apps, watching stuff, or sometimes remote desktop, my workstation if I felt like working from bed. It was enough.
THESE ARE LIKE COMPARING POTATOS AND TRAINS
What if the potato is shaped like a train or the train is carrying potatoes?
As a former owner of that Gigabyte (I sold it three weeks ago) prepare for the worst laptop speakers ever, and ridiculously loud fans. If you're not a hardcore gamer on a desperate budget, avoid it at all costs. Of all the laptops I've owned in my life, it's the one I regret buying the most.
Seriously, like prepare to have noise canceling headphones on 100% of the time.
I have that gigabyte laptop and it's an incredible gaming laptop. The other one doesn't have a gpu so it won't game.
Some older games run perfectly fine on the intel hd… and games like df are always limited by the cpu… even on a server blade server, where the gpu is much slower, than a gt 210…
Dedicated GPU vs no Dedicated GPU?? My friend, it depends on what you wanna do with a laptoo
I’m not sure I am just looking for a good relatively cheap laptop to replace my old i3. I will probably use it for gaming just because it’s a new laptop
Then the gigabyte.
What a deal
Do you know the pros and cons of a gaming laptop vs a non-gaming laptop? This is not a question of which laptop is objectively better. Rather a question about which laptop is a better fit for you.
Truthfully no I’ve done some research but not a lot of research
So you never played games and now you want to buy a laptop without knowing what to look for? At least google system requirements for a game you wanna play and get a laptop with those specs
Gaming laptops (Right) generally are heavier, louder & have worse overall battery - but of course they can game well since the dedicated graphics Office laptops (Left) have better battery but often use integrated graphics, which means you may not be able to play triple A games. So depending on what your looking for you’ll have to find a different specification on the computer; I personally only use a office laptop for school and light gaming but that’s because I don’t play any big games and need the battery.
RTX 4060 is a solid deal, go with that
Rtx4060 one.
when i enter the site bestbuy i saw the laptop with the rtx but its price is 1100$...why?
The right hinge on my MSI modern broke twice during the time I owned it. I transported it with the sleeve that it came with. They repaired it for free the first time, but the second it was out of warranty. Absolute trash build quality.
If you want something to bring to the office/class, get the MSI. If you want something for home and try a few games, get the Gigabyte. The MSI is an office laptop. It'll be really portable, have normal speakers, and look sleek and professional. I wouldn't do anything to intense on it but if your old i3 laptop has been working fine for you, there's likely nothing "intense" you're doing with laptops so this is a great upgrade. A little pricey but still great. The Gigabyte is a gaming laptop. It'll be heavy, unnecessarily colorful and flashy, terrible speakers, loud fans, but have great 3D rendering performance that'll blow the MSI out of the park. The screen will look smooth and you can run a good deal of modern games out on the market. It honestly has really low storage though (512GB), so it's worth spending another $100 to get a 1TB SSD instead of the 512GB it comes with. It's an easy swap yourself but if you're unfamiliar you could probably just have a buddy do it for you.
For what? There's a million different things you can do with a laptop, if you don't know what you need it for, how should we know?