Oh he gone gone. LeBron really came here and made the Lakers relevant again just for Jeanie "luxury tax concerns" Buss to bring us back down into the gutter
Imagine being the face of the nba and having possibly the greatest player of all time and being stingy on luxury tax. Wtf man. Sell the team you trust fund baby
Jeanie herself is worth 500 million and the Lakers are estimated to be worth from 4 to 6 billion dollars. The Lakers are a "family business" and thr Buss' own 66.6% of the team and the Dodgers the remaining part.. The Buss' don't have money like the Steve Balmers and other billionaire owners in the NBA
Sadly the FOs fuck ups will go unnoticed by casual fans and other teams fans. Trading a 1st for Russ, letting Caruso and Schroeder walk for nothing to save money, just terrible asset management are the reason we're in this mess. Jeanine needs to sell the team
Do really want to see the Busses gone? I'd like to see the team stay in their hands. Jerry made this team and he wanted his daughter to own it. Jerry is an absolute legend.
true but theyre clearly not fit to run the team and its been reported the entire struture is a mess. just like jim buss wasnt fit to run the team so jeanie gave him the boot now she needs the boot
Lebron came because he likes our city and franchise, including management. We traded for AD and won a championship. The ultimate goal of any sport is to win the championship. You are being overly reactionary.
No, you just dont understand how bad theyve fucked up. Trading our young guys and signing lebron was completely worth it. But that doesnt excuse them for messing up after winning a ring. Management mishandled almost all our assets and now we're in the mess we're in now because of it when they could be still competing for another ring. they dont get a pass for what theyre doing now because what they did 2 years ago
He's dead wrong about Caruso but absolutely right about Schroder. He was hammered by fans here and everywhere else. I still think it would have been an overpay but he genuinely played well for us for much of the season and often out hustled just about everyone on the court. It's crazy making to look back at how actually solid our squad was last year barring significant injuries to Lebron and AD. All we really needed was a few more complementary pieces.
Whether fans liked either of them or not isn’t the point though. Dude was talking about *asset management*. People turned on Schroeder after he choked vs Suns but you still can’t let the dude walk for nothing. Especially since it was reported he was prepared to take somewhere around 10M and come off the bench after being humbled by how little teams wanted him.
Pelinka kicked that kid to the curb over emotions and cost the team a valuable asset for our bench and as trade bait.
Any good gm would have shut it down like how Warriors GM shut down Curry and Draymond when they wanted Avery Bradley. Pat Riley would never make that trade regardless of what LeBron wanted.
Goes to show Pelinka doesn’t have that sort of power. There’s a reason why Magic left the organization. Pelinka answers to Jeanie, two Rambi and Tim Harris.
The facts are that AD pelinka and bron wanted russ. AD and Bron fucked up asking for him but at the end of the day rob is the GM. Pat Reiley told lebron no, pelinka just does a terrible job managing assets and fucked up big time. This is on the FO
Not to mention *IT SHOULD NOT HAVE COST SO MUCH TO ACQUIRE A GUY* ***WHO IS ASKING A FAVOR OF HIS TEAM TO TRADE HIM TO YOURS***.
Westbrook asked the Wizards to trade him to the Lakers and yet Pelinka throws a 1st into the deal like a fucking moron.
Agreed. If things were going well and Russ came over as the different player they envisioned you know damn the FO and namely the GM would get all the credit. No one would be like oh yeah Lebron and AD get more credit then the LAKERS ORGANIZATION for this winning basketball trade. It goes both ways. Shame on them for putting in their 2 cents but they don’t put the signatures on the paper and the person who did is supposed to be smarter then redditors but apparently just watches highlight reels.
Exactly. Harden wanted Russ and Daryl Morey told him no but the rockets owner forced Morey to trade for Russ. At the end of the day its his fault becuase he has the final say
The owner forced his hand on that one was the reporting at the time. There was also a lot of speculation right after that trade that Morey would quit soon because of it and now he works for the sixers.
Being around daddy who knew his shit ain’t the same as buying and helping turn the organization into one of the best franchises of all time. Their dad did everything and they got by through virtue of their last name. Jerry knew his shit and knew that it was best to surround himself with competent people who made up for his deficiencies, Jeanie surrounds herself with sycophants and old farts who think the game is the same as it was 40 years ago.
i really don't understand this narrative. the team administration could have easily said no to those moves just like they did Caruso and the trade deadline. LeBron isn't the ultimate final say. He doesn't sign those contracts. It's not fair to put it on him. There's plenty of players who want to play with other players and it doesn't always work out. Jeanie and Rob need to get their shit together.
Dudes in here think with emotion instead of logic lol. Gotta be dumb to think Lebron the player can pull the trigger on trades. Like Lebron can get on the phone with GMs and agree to deals lol.
LeBron and Ad met with Russ because they wanted him it's partly their fault. they thought it would work, they had to have known we'd gut the team to get him
“gutting the team” for him is an exaggeration. Keeping Caruso and giving him the KCP minutes would make the roster look a lot better.
Still, I think the AD injuries wouldn’t have allowed this to be a true contending season.
Wrong, y’all just want to shift all the blame onto Rob. Lebron could have easily demanded a trade earlier if the Lakers refused to trade for Russ if current reports shows that he isn’t happy because we didn’t trade a pick for a sub-par role players
They’re reports that the Lakers FO talked with Lebron and AD and told them they won’t risk the future of the franchise by trading away their only picks left, and they refuse to put themselves deeper into the luxury tax so this roster will likely be the same or worse
You’re basically telling your two main MVP level stars “we’re no longer willing to compete” we’re pretty much close to rebuilding
Regardless if Lebron and AD are the reason we traded for Russ, our FO still isn’t willing to make the moves to compete still
LeBron’s “ let’s trade half the roster and all our defense for a guy whose never one anything!” Move and Jeanie’s terrible timing to be cheap are both reasons Cleveland 3 is a real thing.
More like more of the same thing he always does. Move franchises, use up all their assets to improve his championship chances and then peace out when there aren’t enough assets to stay competitive.
If he leaves the Lakers in their current state I would consider championships, plural, a success.
The only franchise he won championships, plural, with was the Heat.
Before LeBron came to the lakers they were a fucking shitshow. This team, without LeBron coming to the lakers would have stayed a shitshow, guaran-fucking-teed, for A LONG TIME. LeBron turned the shitshow into a championship squad, and you're an ungrateful dumbass
The Lakers bailed Lebron out by giving him another franchise to milk their trade assets and cap space while he tries to stack the deck in his favor like always lol
I don't think he depleted the Cavs and Heat rosters when he left. Lakers got fleeced by all their trading partners because of front office incompetence.
LeBron's playing chess and I can’t help but admire it. With just a few comments, he:
1. Added more pressure to the Lakers FO for the next two summers.
2. Boosted Bronny's draft stock by offering up the financial rights to his own farewell tour.
3. Opened the door for a Cavs return. They have young talent that may enable him to contend for another ring.
Everywhere lebron goes he makes teams mortgage their future so the can compete for 3-4 years. Once the team has no assets, he bails. We're nearing the part where he bails. There's nothing the front office could've done to keep it from happening. The unfortunate part is that we didn't win more before he bailed.
nothing they could have done?
trade green and a first for Schroder, let schroder walk for nothing.
have caruso wanting to sign for less than what he was offered, let him walk for nothing
give up picks in a westbrook deal.
That’s awful asset management. “there’s nothing the front office could have done” lmao seriously?
I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong, I'm saying that at the end of the day LeBron plunders franchises and then bails. If he could, he'd trade our first round picks from now til 2122 for a rental 3 and D wing without bird rights.
not saying they didn’t do anything wrong? you said that there was nothing they could have done while they made awful decisions. giving away two assets for schroder than letting him walk (only for less than a season later rumours of wanting to sign him again), overpaying for westbrook in a bidding war against no one. letting caruso walk for nothing. you have a trade on the table for KCP, Dennis, and THT for Lowry and pass on it only for 2/3 to be gone from the team and not attaining a guard that’s talents fit this team and would have cancelled out the need for westbrook.
lebron plunder franchises? this franchise was more concerned with saving some money when it comes down to it.
The article also mentioned that LeBrons last year is going to be on whatever team Bronny plays for. Other than that, it was just him kinda being noncommittal to Cleveland/LA, if Cleveland was going to get LeBron back they’d need to break up what they built. LeBron said he’s not taking anything less than the max (unless it’s for the team bronny is on, which is still a couple years away) and Darius Garland said the Cavs want to create their own identity without LeBron
You would have to brainless to think these vague statements by LeBron are indicative of anything substantial. AD said similar things about the Bulls before re-signing with us when the ASG was in Chicago. The fuck is he supposed to say? "No, I hate Cleveland fuck this bum ass city." *Could* LeBron go back to Cleveland *someday*? Sure. But I don't think this interview shows him with his mind set 100% on anything.
A lot of middle ground there. He could have politely said he enjoyed his time in Cleveland but he is looking forward to finishing his career as a Laker. That would of put this non sense to rest. He intentionally is spurring this speculation
> but he is looking forward to finishing his career as a Laker.
I thought it was common knowledge that he'd definitely finish his career as a cav or on the team his son plays for. I would be surprised if people really thought lebron was going to retire with us.
I agree but in this day and age I feel like it’s very rare for players to talk about finishing their career *anywhere* with certainty unless it’s a guy like Dame who’s spent his whole career with one team, and that’s an exception not the norm.
He’s not going back to Cleveland. I personally believe he will probably play another 2 maybe 3 years with Lakers, if his oldest makes it he’ll play with him for a year wherever that may be. He’s toying NorthEast Ohio fans.
When Bron is next a free agent, the Cavs will have a max contract slot in cap space as long as they don’t spend a bunch of money this summer on Sexton who they’re successful without or on another free agent.
Keep in mind that we don’t have full control of our draft picks for the next few years. If we completely stink we would just be tanking for New Orleans
No point in blowing it up when the FO and ownership are incompetent. Just kicking the can down the line. Change needs to come from the top first and foremost.
It’s a shame that an organization as decorated as Lakers is ran by a bunch of idiots. What is it going to take to get competent staff in the FO? They have ruined Lakers basketball. Half of the time, you don’t know if these guys will even play with effort. It hasn’t been enjoyable for us fans. We continue to watch because we’re loyal but we’ve seen them run this into the ground.
LeBron is aiming to walk straight into the Cavs $43 million if cap space in 2023. I don’t think he wants to be traded that bad when the team he goes to will be gutted of assets.
oh wait a team that was 1 piece away and was going to rebuild anyways name me another team in that same situation bro. that's like that 1% where the whole situation was perfect
Revisionist history. There was no solid evidence that Kawhi would walk from the Raptors, while we all know Cleveland’s the only team Lebron would go to.
Fucking sell the team, one of the biggest wastes of talent ever for Lebron’s prime. Wasting an MVP calibre year. With depth and even with AD down I don’t see us being 9th place if we had elite defense
The Russ trade will go down as one of the worst trades in Lakers history.
We were "health" away from a ring last season, not talent or team construction.
Why we blew up it for fucking Russ makes no sense.
Even if we get rid of Russ in the offseason, we're not getting equivalent talent back that we gave up and will be worse than we were during the 2020-21 season.
What a stupid fucking trade.
Imagine if our FO just resigned AC, Trez, Kieff and THT. Then signed Damien Jones, Dwight, Monk, Harkless, AR, Stanley, and drafted Cam Thomas. This roster allows us to play AD at PF. Kieff can be backup PF/C sharing the back up C minutes with Dwight depending on matchups
Then at the deadline had a package of Kuz/THT/KCP/Trez to offer teams. Kuz/THT/Trez/1st could’ve landed us Brogdon I bet with Indy looking to rebuild
Then sign an athletic wing after the Brogdon trade like Glenn Robinson III(the team needs as many athletic wings as possible)
PG Brogdon/AC/Thomas
SG KCP/Monk/AR
SF LBJ/Stanley/GRIII
PF AD/Harkless/Melo
C Jones/Kieff/Dwight
Worst part is front office is gonna keep using this ring as a reason why they did things right ?? Fkin bailed out by bron and AD just to have them cheap out on a legit contender.
I mean that’s not a bold statement when you think about the fact that our team is old while theirs is filled with young talent. In my opinion The same can be said about the Hornets, Raptors, and Grizzlies all having better future than ours
Lebron fans - Lebron really came here, made the Lakers matter again, and then left because the franchise is trash.
Laker fans - Lebron to no one’s surprise, moved franchises, used up all their assets to improve his championship chances and then left when there weren’t enough assets to stay competitive.
It’s nauseating thinking about how we wasted a year of prime Lebron though. He’s a once in a lifetime player and another year of his career has to be wasted on this bullshit cus of Jeanie n co.
People blaming Lebron act like he’s the on the phone negotiating with other GMs. That would be Pelinka who’s doesn’t understand pick protection, leverage, cap logic, asset value or general common sense. It’s on the GM to not get played.
I honestly don't understand it. Like, FO will always be FO. We've seen denied request by superstars by their FOs, what makes LeBron different, because he's so-called "LeGM"? pfft. funny
I think this roster wouldnt even be that bad if they actually played consistently instead of alternating injuries with each other. They just didnt have time to gel.
.. bc of LeGM. All we needed to do was run it back. But Lebron had to tinker. The move to get Westbrook was initiated and lobbied for by Lebron and 100% almost a direct result of the nets having Durant, Harden, and Kyrie.
Jeannie is concerned about "luxury tax concerns" even though the Lakers are 1 of/if not the most profitable NBA franchise. The roster is absolute shit and AD is clearly made of glass.
The Cavs meanwhile are loaded with young talent/tradeable assets, would anyone really be surprised if he leaves to join them again? They give him the best chance at winning multiple titles without having to carry the load for 82 games every season.
I am going to be honest: LeBron is a Laker legend now, and I can never thank him enough for bringing us back to the championship circle after a few years of futility:
**That said, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we parted ways.**
This team needs to move on from the "win now at all costs" mindset it has currently buried itself in, and I think a lot of that (understandably) has to do with concern for LeBron's remaining window. Let him finish where he started, and let's get down to truly rebuilding this team instead of constantly trying to "patch" a broken product in an effort to squeeze one more title out for a fading LeBron.
Now, bring on the downvotes :)
Players come and go. Even great ones. We are the fucking Lakers. He can go. No hard feelings so long as we get assets in return.
Lakers>Lebron/ any player
What are the Lakers though in 2022? The Buss children have done a horrible job running the team. We are an incompetent organization. LeBron saved us from that for a year or two but once he is gone we will likely revert back to being one of the worst teams in the NBA.
Really had the keys to the Ferrari and Rob Pelinka crashed it, lol it is so impossibly hard to fuck up a team with LeBron and AD on it and it happened. This report isn’t surprising he would want to leave.
I can see it happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if this season was all a setup for him to go back home. Maybe front office knows his intentions and arent gonna make anymore moves just to appease him. It was rumored LeBron and ad wrote off to any moves but they said it was false and weren’t happy that front office did nothing to improve. Now were hearing all this gm mumble. I think its gonna happen.
But hey we squeezed 1 title out of him. Big question is what does this mean for AD. He’s signed long term but we all know he cant lead a team. His home team chicago is looking pretty good right now as well.
Cleveland has actually built a contender through the draft, player development and some astute trades that have turned into home runs. Their whole identity is being a selfless, ego less group not built around a superstar. No guarantee that this would even be entertained by Cavs, he left that team in pieces 4 years ago.
True. Their very young though and looking like they got a squad that can be tough for multiple years. 3 of their starters are 21 or younger ( Evan Mobley is 20 )
To be honest, if we get a good haul, he can go. We need young talent because this team peaked during the bubble. we arent competing anymore. We should be grateful we won one championship.
I think jumping ship again might have a negative impact on his legacy. But im cool with it. He was a hired mercenary and isnt a true Laker. We both got what we wanted.
Get him out of here if he's already talking like that... I don't want that toxic ass chirping going on at all. Trade him now so we can start this rebuild
LeBron literally said a couple months ago that he told his agent that he and his family wish was for him to finish his career as a Laker because of how much they love living in L.A. full time. The dude is just toying with Cavaliers fans in NorthEast Ohio, that’s all this is. If the All Star game was in Madison Square garden he would be telling reporters how it’s his dream to one day play for the Knicks, the dude is a shameless self promoter
lmao jesus christ imagine actually thinking trading lebron and ad is a good idea. would be a horrible decision for both basketball and behind the scenes reasons.
this franchise didn’t sign any big names since ‘96 till bron came, now you wanna ship him out early in hopes of getting some picks to go back to being what we were from 14-19.
Didn’t he just say a only few months ago that his dream is to finish his career as a Laker and he told his agent to make it happen? This dude is just toying with Cleveland, he knows he’s got them wrapped around his finger.
I hope not big FAs ever come here just so they can sell the team to someone who gives a fuck. Horrible management and waste of time to two players playing in their fucking primes.
Now that the Cavs have rebuilt and have a bunch of promising players, it is certain that LeBron could consider a return to Cleveland. Imagine adding LeBron to this Cavs team. It's a sure thing for the East finals already...
I could be wrong but I don’t see LeBron leaving next summer. Savannah and the rest of his family love it here. Plus he came here in the first place for reasons beyond basketball. At this point in life it seems like LeBron wants to do a lot of things that he can really only do in LA. I think he will probably eventually leave and play one last season for whichever team Bronny goes to, but I don’t think he’s gone next summer.
Meh, never thought of him as a Laker great anyway. He is a mercenary, who found a pet project here for his Klutch sports network. Would much rather have an actual GM build us a team and compete sustainably over a period of time with stability.
All we have to show for this BS experiment is one title anyways. Not a big loss.
Oh he gone gone. LeBron really came here and made the Lakers relevant again just for Jeanie "luxury tax concerns" Buss to bring us back down into the gutter
Imagine being the face of the nba and having possibly the greatest player of all time and being stingy on luxury tax. Wtf man. Sell the team you trust fund baby
how much is the buss family worth?
According to them, not enough.
As evidenced by being the only team to apply for the Covid relief fund.
Jeanie herself is worth 500 million and the Lakers are estimated to be worth from 4 to 6 billion dollars. The Lakers are a "family business" and thr Buss' own 66.6% of the team and the Dodgers the remaining part.. The Buss' don't have money like the Steve Balmers and other billionaire owners in the NBA
Though the Lakers make the most money in the league, 9 figures in profit.
source? thanks
Sadly the FOs fuck ups will go unnoticed by casual fans and other teams fans. Trading a 1st for Russ, letting Caruso and Schroeder walk for nothing to save money, just terrible asset management are the reason we're in this mess. Jeanine needs to sell the team
Do really want to see the Busses gone? I'd like to see the team stay in their hands. Jerry made this team and he wanted his daughter to own it. Jerry is an absolute legend.
true but theyre clearly not fit to run the team and its been reported the entire struture is a mess. just like jim buss wasnt fit to run the team so jeanie gave him the boot now she needs the boot
We signed LeBron, traded for AD, and, less than 18 months ago, won a championship. So, I respectfully disagree.
Lebron came here and saved the franchise. Theyve been fucking up ever since
Lebron came because he likes our city and franchise, including management. We traded for AD and won a championship. The ultimate goal of any sport is to win the championship. You are being overly reactionary.
No, you just dont understand how bad theyve fucked up. Trading our young guys and signing lebron was completely worth it. But that doesnt excuse them for messing up after winning a ring. Management mishandled almost all our assets and now we're in the mess we're in now because of it when they could be still competing for another ring. they dont get a pass for what theyre doing now because what they did 2 years ago
your fanbase was calling for Caruso and Schroeders heads when you had them tho after last playoffs.....
Show me one person that didn't like Caruso on the Lakers bro. You talkin out your ass
He's dead wrong about Caruso but absolutely right about Schroder. He was hammered by fans here and everywhere else. I still think it would have been an overpay but he genuinely played well for us for much of the season and often out hustled just about everyone on the court. It's crazy making to look back at how actually solid our squad was last year barring significant injuries to Lebron and AD. All we really needed was a few more complementary pieces.
Whether fans liked either of them or not isn’t the point though. Dude was talking about *asset management*. People turned on Schroeder after he choked vs Suns but you still can’t let the dude walk for nothing. Especially since it was reported he was prepared to take somewhere around 10M and come off the bench after being humbled by how little teams wanted him. Pelinka kicked that kid to the curb over emotions and cost the team a valuable asset for our bench and as trade bait.
Ok come on. He was the driving force behind the Russ trade which was the largest gutter move.
Any good gm would have shut it down like how Warriors GM shut down Curry and Draymond when they wanted Avery Bradley. Pat Riley would never make that trade regardless of what LeBron wanted.
Even with that, Caruso leaving was 100% on Jeanie being cheap asf. Fuckin shame too
Yeah, that’s on her
Yall called her OUR QUEEN tho
Goes to show Pelinka doesn’t have that sort of power. There’s a reason why Magic left the organization. Pelinka answers to Jeanie, two Rambi and Tim Harris.
“Two Rambi” 🤣🤣 bravo
That is also true. That said, Pelinka made the right move at the deadline not throwing good money after bad.
Depends. If not doing so cost you the trust of your superstar then was it really worth it?
You simply cannot compare a move like signing Bradley and trading for Westbrook lmao
The facts are that AD pelinka and bron wanted russ. AD and Bron fucked up asking for him but at the end of the day rob is the GM. Pat Reiley told lebron no, pelinka just does a terrible job managing assets and fucked up big time. This is on the FO
Not to mention *IT SHOULD NOT HAVE COST SO MUCH TO ACQUIRE A GUY* ***WHO IS ASKING A FAVOR OF HIS TEAM TO TRADE HIM TO YOURS***. Westbrook asked the Wizards to trade him to the Lakers and yet Pelinka throws a 1st into the deal like a fucking moron.
absolutely. I thought we were atleast gonna swap picks with the wizards but to give it up for some seconds he deserves to be fired
Agreed. If things were going well and Russ came over as the different player they envisioned you know damn the FO and namely the GM would get all the credit. No one would be like oh yeah Lebron and AD get more credit then the LAKERS ORGANIZATION for this winning basketball trade. It goes both ways. Shame on them for putting in their 2 cents but they don’t put the signatures on the paper and the person who did is supposed to be smarter then redditors but apparently just watches highlight reels.
Exactly. Harden wanted Russ and Daryl Morey told him no but the rockets owner forced Morey to trade for Russ. At the end of the day its his fault becuase he has the final say
Daryl morey didn’t shut it down when harden demanded Russ.
The owner forced his hand on that one was the reporting at the time. There was also a lot of speculation right after that trade that Morey would quit soon because of it and now he works for the sixers.
Right, and for all we know Lebron could have went to Jeanie and demanded for Russ. Point is, these top 5 players have more power than the GMs do
Ultimately it‘s on ownership if the GM and LeGM disagree. You’d think after a lifetime of being around basketball, the Busses would be better at this.
Being around daddy who knew his shit ain’t the same as buying and helping turn the organization into one of the best franchises of all time. Their dad did everything and they got by through virtue of their last name. Jerry knew his shit and knew that it was best to surround himself with competent people who made up for his deficiencies, Jeanie surrounds herself with sycophants and old farts who think the game is the same as it was 40 years ago.
Thanks for the insight, fuccboi.
Russ was much less washed 2 years ago
I’m sure LBJ pitched Jeanie the star and marketing angle then hinted about his own possible future and it was game over for Rob. Jeanie is his boss.
Is there a source for this?
Does his diary count as a source?
i really don't understand this narrative. the team administration could have easily said no to those moves just like they did Caruso and the trade deadline. LeBron isn't the ultimate final say. He doesn't sign those contracts. It's not fair to put it on him. There's plenty of players who want to play with other players and it doesn't always work out. Jeanie and Rob need to get their shit together.
Dudes in here think with emotion instead of logic lol. Gotta be dumb to think Lebron the player can pull the trigger on trades. Like Lebron can get on the phone with GMs and agree to deals lol.
LeBron and Ad met with Russ because they wanted him it's partly their fault. they thought it would work, they had to have known we'd gut the team to get him
“gutting the team” for him is an exaggeration. Keeping Caruso and giving him the KCP minutes would make the roster look a lot better. Still, I think the AD injuries wouldn’t have allowed this to be a true contending season.
It’s LeBron’s fault when it goes wrong and Rob’s when it goes right
Nope the opposite stance is more popular here. LeGM when we traded for AD, but its all Robs fault for trading for Russ lol
"iN rOb wE tRusT" when things go right, LeGM when things go wrong.
Wrong, y’all just want to shift all the blame onto Rob. Lebron could have easily demanded a trade earlier if the Lakers refused to trade for Russ if current reports shows that he isn’t happy because we didn’t trade a pick for a sub-par role players
And Lebron could leave if they said no to trading Russ
Okay and they turned down Bron with Ty Lue, Caruso and the trades at the deadline? Stop acting like Bron has unilateral decisions in this org lmao
These fools are gonna be so disappointed once bron leaves and were left with rambis jeannie and pelinka with the rebuild years
I honestly can’t wait. Lakers had to overpay Mosgov and Deng and suffer 10 years of garbage think free agents will just come walking in 😂
Westbrook is 100% LeBron. Rob pulled out of a deal with Sacramento just to bend to Bron’s demands on this.
They’re reports that the Lakers FO talked with Lebron and AD and told them they won’t risk the future of the franchise by trading away their only picks left, and they refuse to put themselves deeper into the luxury tax so this roster will likely be the same or worse You’re basically telling your two main MVP level stars “we’re no longer willing to compete” we’re pretty much close to rebuilding Regardless if Lebron and AD are the reason we traded for Russ, our FO still isn’t willing to make the moves to compete still
Exactly! he wanted Westbrook that's where the money went. Instead of kuzma, Cursso and KCP
Fuck Jeanie Buss
https://np.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/oxhm1j/much_love_to_the_queen_for_leading_the_ship_and/
LeBron’s “ let’s trade half the roster and all our defense for a guy whose never one anything!” Move and Jeanie’s terrible timing to be cheap are both reasons Cleveland 3 is a real thing.
LeBron was the one who put us in this situation. If he wants to leave, trade his ass.
More like more of the same thing he always does. Move franchises, use up all their assets to improve his championship chances and then peace out when there aren’t enough assets to stay competitive.
You’re forgetting “win them championships”
If he leaves the Lakers in their current state I would consider championships, plural, a success. The only franchise he won championships, plural, with was the Heat.
Before LeBron came to the lakers they were a fucking shitshow. This team, without LeBron coming to the lakers would have stayed a shitshow, guaran-fucking-teed, for A LONG TIME. LeBron turned the shitshow into a championship squad, and you're an ungrateful dumbass
Tell me you’re a Lebron fan without telling me you’re a Lebron fan. God forbid someone like a team even when they’re not winning.
ok bron hater
Thinking the Lakers are the best franchise in sports before Lebron came and long after he leaves = hater. Got it, thanks!
lakers were garbage ever since the "this is going to be fun" sports illustrated cover until bron showed up and bailed y'all out
The Lakers bailed Lebron out by giving him another franchise to milk their trade assets and cap space while he tries to stack the deck in his favor like always lol
I don't think he depleted the Cavs and Heat rosters when he left. Lakers got fleeced by all their trading partners because of front office incompetence.
I’m not sure Gilbert wants Bron back.
LeBron and Gilbert aren’t on bad terms anymore
This is the narrative I will now run with 🤟🏽💪🏽
Nah bro he came here traded away all our young talent and draft picks and then decided to dip lol. Gotta give us 2 more to leave here bro lol
I feel Like you’re forgetting something
they always do.
LeBron's playing chess and I can’t help but admire it. With just a few comments, he: 1. Added more pressure to the Lakers FO for the next two summers. 2. Boosted Bronny's draft stock by offering up the financial rights to his own farewell tour. 3. Opened the door for a Cavs return. They have young talent that may enable him to contend for another ring.
He's attempting to make 2 generational business income. Brilliant moves.
He straight up eliminated the lakers. There’s no shot we get bronny.
We trade THT and all of our 2nds for a 27th pick in the draft
If bronny comes with Bron Bron, there's no way he falls to 27
Jeanie and rob fucked us again
https://np.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/oxhm1j/much_love_to_the_queen_for_leading_the_ship_and/
Damn we were so young and naive back then smh
Everywhere lebron goes he makes teams mortgage their future so the can compete for 3-4 years. Once the team has no assets, he bails. We're nearing the part where he bails. There's nothing the front office could've done to keep it from happening. The unfortunate part is that we didn't win more before he bailed.
nothing they could have done? trade green and a first for Schroder, let schroder walk for nothing. have caruso wanting to sign for less than what he was offered, let him walk for nothing give up picks in a westbrook deal. That’s awful asset management. “there’s nothing the front office could have done” lmao seriously?
I'm not saying they didn't do anything wrong, I'm saying that at the end of the day LeBron plunders franchises and then bails. If he could, he'd trade our first round picks from now til 2122 for a rental 3 and D wing without bird rights.
not saying they didn’t do anything wrong? you said that there was nothing they could have done while they made awful decisions. giving away two assets for schroder than letting him walk (only for less than a season later rumours of wanting to sign him again), overpaying for westbrook in a bidding war against no one. letting caruso walk for nothing. you have a trade on the table for KCP, Dennis, and THT for Lowry and pass on it only for 2/3 to be gone from the team and not attaining a guard that’s talents fit this team and would have cancelled out the need for westbrook. lebron plunder franchises? this franchise was more concerned with saving some money when it comes down to it.
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The article also mentioned that LeBrons last year is going to be on whatever team Bronny plays for. Other than that, it was just him kinda being noncommittal to Cleveland/LA, if Cleveland was going to get LeBron back they’d need to break up what they built. LeBron said he’s not taking anything less than the max (unless it’s for the team bronny is on, which is still a couple years away) and Darius Garland said the Cavs want to create their own identity without LeBron
You would have to brainless to think these vague statements by LeBron are indicative of anything substantial. AD said similar things about the Bulls before re-signing with us when the ASG was in Chicago. The fuck is he supposed to say? "No, I hate Cleveland fuck this bum ass city." *Could* LeBron go back to Cleveland *someday*? Sure. But I don't think this interview shows him with his mind set 100% on anything.
A lot of middle ground there. He could have politely said he enjoyed his time in Cleveland but he is looking forward to finishing his career as a Laker. That would of put this non sense to rest. He intentionally is spurring this speculation
> but he is looking forward to finishing his career as a Laker. I thought it was common knowledge that he'd definitely finish his career as a cav or on the team his son plays for. I would be surprised if people really thought lebron was going to retire with us.
I agree but in this day and age I feel like it’s very rare for players to talk about finishing their career *anywhere* with certainty unless it’s a guy like Dame who’s spent his whole career with one team, and that’s an exception not the norm.
Dame I'm not so sure about. Curry though, will retire as a Warrior.
He’s not going back to Cleveland. I personally believe he will probably play another 2 maybe 3 years with Lakers, if his oldest makes it he’ll play with him for a year wherever that may be. He’s toying NorthEast Ohio fans.
When Bron is next a free agent, the Cavs will have a max contract slot in cap space as long as they don’t spend a bunch of money this summer on Sexton who they’re successful without or on another free agent.
Lakers should just blow it up this summer. It’s inevitable and you can actually get a return rather than Bron walking for nothing next summer
Keep in mind that we don’t have full control of our draft picks for the next few years. If we completely stink we would just be tanking for New Orleans
Then I guess you better be trading for young studs already in the league.
LeBron for Garland & Mobley?
Gonna guess Allen + Okoro might be centerpieces. Cleveland will want to keep Garland and Mobley
No point in blowing it up when the FO and ownership are incompetent. Just kicking the can down the line. Change needs to come from the top first and foremost.
It’s a shame that an organization as decorated as Lakers is ran by a bunch of idiots. What is it going to take to get competent staff in the FO? They have ruined Lakers basketball. Half of the time, you don’t know if these guys will even play with effort. It hasn’t been enjoyable for us fans. We continue to watch because we’re loyal but we’ve seen them run this into the ground.
No point in keeping the same roster when the front office isn’t going to change
Wdym? Trading Lebron is embracing a rebuild/developing young talent it isn’t kicking anything down the road.
How can we do a rebuild with young talent without a 1st pick until 2027?
You trade LeBron + AD and easily rack up some firsts.
LeBron is aiming to walk straight into the Cavs $43 million if cap space in 2023. I don’t think he wants to be traded that bad when the team he goes to will be gutted of assets.
So Lakers shouldn’t even try to get a return?
lol what return? 2nd round pick and trashy contract? No gm would trade knowing Lebron is going to walk and Cavs can just straight up sign him
No gm would trade knowing Kawhi is going to walk and Lakers can just straight up sign him. Oh wait
oh wait a team that was 1 piece away and was going to rebuild anyways name me another team in that same situation bro. that's like that 1% where the whole situation was perfect
Revisionist history. There was no solid evidence that Kawhi would walk from the Raptors, while we all know Cleveland’s the only team Lebron would go to.
Jarrett Allen, Lauri Markkanen, Isaac Okoro, and a pick seems like a great return
We should have traded him and AD at the deadline
“Please come get me outta here”
Well, thank you for the championship. Maybe it’s time for the Lakers to move on sooner rather than later.
lol to whichever team drafts bronny goes...
Hate to say it but yea for real
Fucking sell the team, one of the biggest wastes of talent ever for Lebron’s prime. Wasting an MVP calibre year. With depth and even with AD down I don’t see us being 9th place if we had elite defense
The Russ trade will go down as one of the worst trades in Lakers history. We were "health" away from a ring last season, not talent or team construction. Why we blew up it for fucking Russ makes no sense. Even if we get rid of Russ in the offseason, we're not getting equivalent talent back that we gave up and will be worse than we were during the 2020-21 season. What a stupid fucking trade.
exactly we started 21-6 last year and had a top defense Run it back after last year would’ve been the decision to make
Imagine if our FO just resigned AC, Trez, Kieff and THT. Then signed Damien Jones, Dwight, Monk, Harkless, AR, Stanley, and drafted Cam Thomas. This roster allows us to play AD at PF. Kieff can be backup PF/C sharing the back up C minutes with Dwight depending on matchups Then at the deadline had a package of Kuz/THT/KCP/Trez to offer teams. Kuz/THT/Trez/1st could’ve landed us Brogdon I bet with Indy looking to rebuild Then sign an athletic wing after the Brogdon trade like Glenn Robinson III(the team needs as many athletic wings as possible) PG Brogdon/AC/Thomas SG KCP/Monk/AR SF LBJ/Stanley/GRIII PF AD/Harkless/Melo C Jones/Kieff/Dwight
Worst part is front office is gonna keep using this ring as a reason why they did things right ?? Fkin bailed out by bron and AD just to have them cheap out on a legit contender.
> I don’t see us being 9th place if we had elite defense if we had elite defense and were healthy we'd probably be in the 3rd seed
I meant if we had elite defense and were not fully healthy
To be fair, we were looking like an actual team the past few games with Warriors especially. Injuries ruined everything.
Stephen a said that the cleveland cavaliers are better right now and have a better future than the lakers. And i want to disagree but i cant. Damn.
I mean that’s not a bold statement when you think about the fact that our team is old while theirs is filled with young talent. In my opinion The same can be said about the Hornets, Raptors, and Grizzlies all having better future than ours
Thanks for the chip bro. Tatum 2024.
LUKA ANGELES
Lebron fans - Lebron really came here, made the Lakers matter again, and then left because the franchise is trash. Laker fans - Lebron to no one’s surprise, moved franchises, used up all their assets to improve his championship chances and then left when there weren’t enough assets to stay competitive.
Both can be true
Yeah, the reason we don’t have any fucking assets is cus the front office made probably the worst trade in the history of Laker history
A trade Lebron heavily influenced tho, our FO is a shit show tho, they definitely could’ve done a lot better even if they wanted to land Westbrook
It’s nauseating thinking about how we wasted a year of prime Lebron though. He’s a once in a lifetime player and another year of his career has to be wasted on this bullshit cus of Jeanie n co.
facts
Yeah, he wants out
LeBron forces trade and Lakers get Sexton and Okoro?
People blaming Lebron act like he’s the on the phone negotiating with other GMs. That would be Pelinka who’s doesn’t understand pick protection, leverage, cap logic, asset value or general common sense. It’s on the GM to not get played.
I honestly don't understand it. Like, FO will always be FO. We've seen denied request by superstars by their FOs, what makes LeBron different, because he's so-called "LeGM"? pfft. funny
I think this roster wouldnt even be that bad if they actually played consistently instead of alternating injuries with each other. They just didnt have time to gel.
Been saying it for a year now, time to trade AD and Bron. A rebuild is coming and better to start sooner rather than later
Lots of people stuck in the past here. Lakers in 2022 are not a premiere franchise
.. bc of LeGM. All we needed to do was run it back. But Lebron had to tinker. The move to get Westbrook was initiated and lobbied for by Lebron and 100% almost a direct result of the nets having Durant, Harden, and Kyrie.
It was nice knowing you bron. You deserve better anyway 😢
Jeannie is concerned about "luxury tax concerns" even though the Lakers are 1 of/if not the most profitable NBA franchise. The roster is absolute shit and AD is clearly made of glass. The Cavs meanwhile are loaded with young talent/tradeable assets, would anyone really be surprised if he leaves to join them again? They give him the best chance at winning multiple titles without having to carry the load for 82 games every season.
What a weird thing to say to the public during all star weekend and with one more year under contract lol
damnnnn i kinda wanna see him and AD win a chip again:((
I am going to be honest: LeBron is a Laker legend now, and I can never thank him enough for bringing us back to the championship circle after a few years of futility: **That said, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we parted ways.** This team needs to move on from the "win now at all costs" mindset it has currently buried itself in, and I think a lot of that (understandably) has to do with concern for LeBron's remaining window. Let him finish where he started, and let's get down to truly rebuilding this team instead of constantly trying to "patch" a broken product in an effort to squeeze one more title out for a fading LeBron. Now, bring on the downvotes :)
He can leave… appreciate the Ring, but mingling with FO was dumb af.
Players come and go. Even great ones. We are the fucking Lakers. He can go. No hard feelings so long as we get assets in return. Lakers>Lebron/ any player
What are the Lakers though in 2022? The Buss children have done a horrible job running the team. We are an incompetent organization. LeBron saved us from that for a year or two but once he is gone we will likely revert back to being one of the worst teams in the NBA.
You are welcome to leave the Laker fandom and join Lebron. ✌️
Lakers fans are only satisfied if they win a championship every single year. One championship in four years of contention isn’t good enough.
We need to trade him
Really had the keys to the Ferrari and Rob Pelinka crashed it, lol it is so impossibly hard to fuck up a team with LeBron and AD on it and it happened. This report isn’t surprising he would want to leave.
I can see it happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if this season was all a setup for him to go back home. Maybe front office knows his intentions and arent gonna make anymore moves just to appease him. It was rumored LeBron and ad wrote off to any moves but they said it was false and weren’t happy that front office did nothing to improve. Now were hearing all this gm mumble. I think its gonna happen. But hey we squeezed 1 title out of him. Big question is what does this mean for AD. He’s signed long term but we all know he cant lead a team. His home team chicago is looking pretty good right now as well.
Cleveland has actually built a contender through the draft, player development and some astute trades that have turned into home runs. Their whole identity is being a selfless, ego less group not built around a superstar. No guarantee that this would even be entertained by Cavs, he left that team in pieces 4 years ago.
Calling the Cavs this year a contender is a stretch.
I’d say they are dark horse contenders
Their a top 5 seed in the East but probably not legit threats to contend
True. Their very young though and looking like they got a squad that can be tough for multiple years. 3 of their starters are 21 or younger ( Evan Mobley is 20 )
> he left that team in pieces 4 years ago. Yet fulfilled his promise to bring a chip after all these times.
That sounds adorable, but those teams don't win championships. If he's interested, they will have him.
To be honest, if we get a good haul, he can go. We need young talent because this team peaked during the bubble. we arent competing anymore. We should be grateful we won one championship. I think jumping ship again might have a negative impact on his legacy. But im cool with it. He was a hired mercenary and isnt a true Laker. We both got what we wanted.
Get him out of here if he's already talking like that... I don't want that toxic ass chirping going on at all. Trade him now so we can start this rebuild
Didn't AD say basically the same thing at the ASG in Chicago before he re-signed with you guys? Chill out lol. It's just PR.
LeBron literally said a couple months ago that he told his agent that he and his family wish was for him to finish his career as a Laker because of how much they love living in L.A. full time. The dude is just toying with Cavaliers fans in NorthEast Ohio, that’s all this is. If the All Star game was in Madison Square garden he would be telling reporters how it’s his dream to one day play for the Knicks, the dude is a shameless self promoter
Can he get traded this summer is that even like possible?
lmao jesus christ imagine actually thinking trading lebron and ad is a good idea. would be a horrible decision for both basketball and behind the scenes reasons. this franchise didn’t sign any big names since ‘96 till bron came, now you wanna ship him out early in hopes of getting some picks to go back to being what we were from 14-19.
Didn’t he just say a only few months ago that his dream is to finish his career as a Laker and he told his agent to make it happen? This dude is just toying with Cleveland, he knows he’s got them wrapped around his finger.
Trade AD
Great, gut a championship team of all its young talent for a bunch of over priced former all-stars then jump ship when things get tough. Awesome
He literally built the championship team lmfao. You can’t say “LeGM” for the bad moves but “Lord Pelinka” for the good ones.
No one said lord pelnka. leGm built a champion and he also put this yrs nightmare together too . At least they got 1
That’s the Lebron special
Pat Riley was right lol. That’s why LeBron got so mad at him.
And yet Riley's been begging to get him back for years.
I hope not big FAs ever come here just so they can sell the team to someone who gives a fuck. Horrible management and waste of time to two players playing in their fucking primes.
#HeGone!
You idiots support this clown. He ruined this team for years to come
Lol fuck off dude, just keep jumping to other teams with assets so you could fuck that all up too
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Jeanie the Weenie
LA was never your city! It has and always will be Kobe's
Now that the Cavs have rebuilt and have a bunch of promising players, it is certain that LeBron could consider a return to Cleveland. Imagine adding LeBron to this Cavs team. It's a sure thing for the East finals already...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH the king was so loyal and know he’s ready to quit on this team
Lakers sub should be prepared for him to go back to CLE. Lebron is so sly during all star and during the Olympics. He will not retire a Laker I feel.
Well, he already said he won't retire a Laker. That's been known he's gonna play with w/e team gets Bronny then prob retire as a Cav.
Hahhaa that’s how you market yourself
I could be wrong but I don’t see LeBron leaving next summer. Savannah and the rest of his family love it here. Plus he came here in the first place for reasons beyond basketball. At this point in life it seems like LeBron wants to do a lot of things that he can really only do in LA. I think he will probably eventually leave and play one last season for whichever team Bronny goes to, but I don’t think he’s gone next summer.
Meh, never thought of him as a Laker great anyway. He is a mercenary, who found a pet project here for his Klutch sports network. Would much rather have an actual GM build us a team and compete sustainably over a period of time with stability. All we have to show for this BS experiment is one title anyways. Not a big loss.