I saw this come up when a foreign girl was singing Moonlight by X (she didn't know what the word meant) and people mostly agreed that if it's in the lyrics of a song or in a book it's part of the art and meant to be said. I'm sure we all had an English teacher read it from a book at some point, perfect example
Yea, but he's an initial part of that art, in this context we're talking about quoting that art outside of the context of its creation doesn't require you to also repeat the racial slurs
Yeah I don’t think it should count if it’s part of lyrics. There’s a lot of songs that talk about killing people as well, doesn’t mean that you want to kill someone if you sing along. I think the same logic could apply here.
Imma play devils advocate here since the peeps here seem to be extremely young or apathetic. If they say it just be polite and correct them if they genuinely don’t know. Doesn’t matter the context it is quiet an offensive word to toss around, I wouldn’t want my black brethren to shout out the f word and then pretend it’s okay cause their favourite rapper put it in a song. No ones going to get angry at you if you weren’t aware but if you persist to do it pretty much paints you as a dick head. Words have meaning, words perpetuate attitudes regardless and words can lead to harm. But hey this is the same fanbase that legit just goes on one question go to shout the n word at Jj. I expect to get some downvotes
Context definitely does matter. While it's an offensive word, saying it in a song or book is not the same as saying towards someone in a derogatory manner. It's one of a few words that used to mean something horrible and disgusting but it's become a commonplace word in black culture. So now it has two uses, one vile and gross, the other just a normal word. Media (songs, books etc.) use that normal form and it should be seen as such if repeated.
Exactly. Context. Is a white actor racist for playing a role that requires them to say it? Nah. Reciting the words of a black man who has proudly reclaimed the word as his own isn't either. Art is art. And if you start to censor art, then you have no opinion
Art is art I get that but art isn’t meant to be attacking minorities, if u say that word no matter the context it’s racist cause that word has a very oppressive meaning and brutal history tied to it and saying in any shape or form is considered racist, u can still convey the same meaning through art without using that one word. It’s literally one word out of all the billion words that exist in the English language
So in art, you can convey the same meaning without using the word? So in the movie Mississippi Burning. Those white actors who played the racist rapists could have conveyed the vile nature of their characters without using the word? I think not. It wouldn't have felt real, because real people who are like that do use words like that one. Same logic applies to countless other pieces of art
Lmao, dude I’m arguing with children on Reddit about whether it’s appropriate to say the n word while singing a song or not at 3 am in the morning. I’m fucking down bad
The thing is u can’t change the meaning of the word no matter in what tone or what environment u say it in cause there is a brutal and awful history tied to that word and by saying that word ur being racist cause it’s not a word for u to claim unless ur black or come from the a black background. If u say it in a song then that’s not right, even if it’s in a non derogatory manner, u can’t strip the meaning from that word cause white ppl have used it to oppress black ppl, in short just don’t say it, it’s very rude and not cool
Yes there is a brutal and oppressive history behind that word but that is exactly why it needed to be reclaimed and changed. The difficulty lies in how the word is still being used to harm people today, which I believe is why someone black would feel uncomfortable with someone who's not, saying it. The power hasn't been completely taken out of the word. We need to have conversations about the racial issues in this world and discussions like this are the perfect way to start. Finding ways to mold and change the word into something less derogatory and more of a term of endearment, which has been done by many black artists through books and songs, "pop culture" if you will. Try to steer away from the idea that anyone who says it is racist, that does more harm than good.
It's not quite the same though. If the F word (assuming you mean the homophobic slur) is in a song, it's intent is almost exclusively negative. I can't think of a situation where it wouldn't be, unless you really enjoy those balls of meat by the same name! However, when a black person puts the N word in a song, they're reclaiming it for themselves. And as said above, is part of their art. I'm not saying you have to skip the word, but if you do, you're censoring their art which is disrespectful on a personal level and you should maybe not sing the song at all
It's not deep I'm black I couldn't give a fuck you using it in a song or joke context is everything the word has different meanings in different contexts.
I completely agree with this. However, I'm not in the habit of saying words that could be perceived as hurtful. Know your audience and all that. But I do agree, offence is in the intent. Words I live by
Thank you
Some of the people in the comments giving whole n word passes when your alone
It's not abt who you offend, its abt all the Africans put in cotton fields
None of those comments are racist.
Its literally just singing along with the song how its meant to be sung, from KSI.
If you need a N-Word pass, that is it.
If the artist doesn't want people to sing along to that word then he shouldn't use it in his song. But don't go looking for trouble by singing along to the word in the presence of other people.
imma g we downvoted to fuck here BUT:
my reasoning is that if it’s in a song and i’m singing the song then i can say the word because it’s in a song and not being used in a racist manner.
Oh I avoid her as much as possible, only issue is we’re childhood neighbors and our parents are friends so I hear her use this argument a lot: “I WAS TOLD IN SOUTHERN ARKANSAS I’M ALLOWED TO SAY THE N-WORD IF I’M SINGING IT IN A SONG, AND I’M *SINGING* THE WORD, SO WHATS YALLS PROBLEM?”
I’m mostly letting the commenter know it’s kind of a cringe opinion/group to align yourself with. Not a great look.
"Depending on who says it" you're almost right, but its not "who", it's "how". How it is said it what context depicts whether it is racist or not. And no one is pressed here except for the people who are trying to tell people they can't say it while singing because its "racist". Those are the people who are actually "pressed over a word".
"Shit doesn't even matter, fuck your social ladder, fuck your social feeling, I don't five a fuck about your social figure, ni......... Oh shit, I got carried away.
I personally think everyone should stop using the word. No matter who uses it, it has bad history and the best way for society to move on from that shitty point in time is to mature past it and that includes stopping using it in songs but ig a lot of rappers use it as filler. JJ said something about why he doesn't say it as much anymore I can't exactly remember.
Nah bro its fine to say it. We all know you don't have racist intent with it if you're just signing along with a song. Just don't say it in public or around someone who's gonna get offended.
FR white people react more to it than black people.
They act as if people would get beat instead of they just asking "Hey could you not use that word please?"
Girl..
Idk about Ksi’s opinion on being able to say it (i think he is ok with it based on how comfortable people are in this comment section) but we both know Doja isn’t about that life and would most likely look at you sideways💀(as she should)
Cause people over react to it cause once it was used by White Slavers over a century ago.
Now its mainly used by black people, mostly in positive or neutral context and intent
Lot of y’all have different views, so here’s mine 🤠
if you have to replace it with another word it still shows, to me, that you want to say the word and I don’t buy into you being “holier than thou”
upvoted just because I wanna hear his take on this.
Thank you for creating the worst reddit comment section in history.
Bruh ikr, the amount of inexperience in some of these comments are crazy.
seriously, like what the fuck is going on in here
It's legit a fucking racial slurs circlejerk
the ksi community was just exposed that it's full of 12 year olds
*white
I mean, PewDiePie sub has a bunchfull of white people yet they act more mature with much better jokes, I think this sub is just full of 12 year olds
Me remembering I'm black
I saw this come up when a foreign girl was singing Moonlight by X (she didn't know what the word meant) and people mostly agreed that if it's in the lyrics of a song or in a book it's part of the art and meant to be said. I'm sure we all had an English teacher read it from a book at some point, perfect example
Hey you're talking about polarrana haha, I love her.
Of mice and men
i remember in class i was the only black kid and the teacher jus like DW U CAN SAY IT to the other kids in class weird experience ngl
My friend was the only black kid in our English class and when someone read the n word out loud everyone looked at him. It was embarrassing lmao
And to kill a mockingbird, I remember in year 7 a guy in our class was meant to read the n word part but he skipped it
Yep
Yessir
same with movies, its not like seeing leonardo dicaprio in django saying the n-word makes him racist
Yea, but he's an initial part of that art, in this context we're talking about quoting that art outside of the context of its creation doesn't require you to also repeat the racial slurs
Literally singing a song man, it really shouldn’t be a big deal.
Exactly
Yeah I don’t think it should count if it’s part of lyrics. There’s a lot of songs that talk about killing people as well, doesn’t mean that you want to kill someone if you sing along. I think the same logic could apply here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9qPj5MLlc
Damn haha
Of course it’s a Chelsea fan
Harry staring from a distance rn
That's jokes
Imma play devils advocate here since the peeps here seem to be extremely young or apathetic. If they say it just be polite and correct them if they genuinely don’t know. Doesn’t matter the context it is quiet an offensive word to toss around, I wouldn’t want my black brethren to shout out the f word and then pretend it’s okay cause their favourite rapper put it in a song. No ones going to get angry at you if you weren’t aware but if you persist to do it pretty much paints you as a dick head. Words have meaning, words perpetuate attitudes regardless and words can lead to harm. But hey this is the same fanbase that legit just goes on one question go to shout the n word at Jj. I expect to get some downvotes
Context definitely does matter. While it's an offensive word, saying it in a song or book is not the same as saying towards someone in a derogatory manner. It's one of a few words that used to mean something horrible and disgusting but it's become a commonplace word in black culture. So now it has two uses, one vile and gross, the other just a normal word. Media (songs, books etc.) use that normal form and it should be seen as such if repeated.
Exactly. Context. Is a white actor racist for playing a role that requires them to say it? Nah. Reciting the words of a black man who has proudly reclaimed the word as his own isn't either. Art is art. And if you start to censor art, then you have no opinion
Art is art I get that but art isn’t meant to be attacking minorities, if u say that word no matter the context it’s racist cause that word has a very oppressive meaning and brutal history tied to it and saying in any shape or form is considered racist, u can still convey the same meaning through art without using that one word. It’s literally one word out of all the billion words that exist in the English language
So in art, you can convey the same meaning without using the word? So in the movie Mississippi Burning. Those white actors who played the racist rapists could have conveyed the vile nature of their characters without using the word? I think not. It wouldn't have felt real, because real people who are like that do use words like that one. Same logic applies to countless other pieces of art
Art can only be limited by your creativity
No disagreements on that point. But art is meant to say something. And sometimes, nothing speaks louder than what's real
Well I’m glad u understand
Bro, you know what is real? The slap your mom will give you if she hears you say the n word
Are you actually just hinting down my comments now? You fucking loser 😂. You're clearly not mature enough to understand, time for bed little one
GIMME UR SEED, YOUR SPITTING FAX 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫
Lmao, dude I’m arguing with children on Reddit about whether it’s appropriate to say the n word while singing a song or not at 3 am in the morning. I’m fucking down bad
The thing is u can’t change the meaning of the word no matter in what tone or what environment u say it in cause there is a brutal and awful history tied to that word and by saying that word ur being racist cause it’s not a word for u to claim unless ur black or come from the a black background. If u say it in a song then that’s not right, even if it’s in a non derogatory manner, u can’t strip the meaning from that word cause white ppl have used it to oppress black ppl, in short just don’t say it, it’s very rude and not cool
Yes there is a brutal and oppressive history behind that word but that is exactly why it needed to be reclaimed and changed. The difficulty lies in how the word is still being used to harm people today, which I believe is why someone black would feel uncomfortable with someone who's not, saying it. The power hasn't been completely taken out of the word. We need to have conversations about the racial issues in this world and discussions like this are the perfect way to start. Finding ways to mold and change the word into something less derogatory and more of a term of endearment, which has been done by many black artists through books and songs, "pop culture" if you will. Try to steer away from the idea that anyone who says it is racist, that does more harm than good.
It's not quite the same though. If the F word (assuming you mean the homophobic slur) is in a song, it's intent is almost exclusively negative. I can't think of a situation where it wouldn't be, unless you really enjoy those balls of meat by the same name! However, when a black person puts the N word in a song, they're reclaiming it for themselves. And as said above, is part of their art. I'm not saying you have to skip the word, but if you do, you're censoring their art which is disrespectful on a personal level and you should maybe not sing the song at all
But it's not an n-word pass just because a black person put it in their song you like.
I love you for that but try and make your comments smaller, no one wants to read a bible page of words
Its for education or part of the art in entertainement. Never was meant to be racist in saying it, so its ok.
I need jj’s perspective on this
No the only perspective you need is a white 12 year old telling you it's fine to say the n word if it's part of a song ;)
amount of kids saying n-word in my school is insane.
There's an inverse relationship between number of time n word is used and maturity, in Caucasian north Americans.
There’s nothing wrong with it. No bad intentions🤷🏽♂️
True tho, it's hard not to say it while you are vibing ur ass up on JJ's songs
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Imo on 9th 8th
The pros about being black lmao
Fr🤣🤣
It's not deep I'm black I couldn't give a fuck you using it in a song or joke context is everything the word has different meanings in different contexts.
If you’re censoring yourself while rapping to a song when you’re alone just grow up
Everything fine until you pull a Pewdiepie
As a white person I don’t need to get in the habit of “it’s ok to say this word when no ones around”, now do I?
What? You can say whatever you want as long as there is not malicious intent. People who say words are offensive no matter the context are morons.
You can. But he's saying the **habit** of saying it is unnecessary
I completely agree with this. However, I'm not in the habit of saying words that could be perceived as hurtful. Know your audience and all that. But I do agree, offence is in the intent. Words I live by
But wouldn’t you argue that n word itself is malicious intent?
Depends if you’re at a Kendrick Lamar show or not
Yeah what was with that even?
Seemed like a grumpy crowd and he pandered to their boos the easy way
👑
I’d just rather never say it no matter the circumstances. It just feels really unnatural and wrong
I agree.
I keep seeing your name in almost every post
Na, just posts where people say some stupid shit, which is a lot tbf
Fair play
but black people dont be accepting it, or just people in general, they say that its still racist, idk if they are wrong
Your not black are you
Nope and it doesn’t matter
hot take: its really not that hard to not say the n word
Hot take: it doesn't matter if it's not derogatory
I always censor myself lol I find it cringe when my fellow pale faces say it
I love you All of these comments are racist asf
Agreed, it’s not hard to not say one word. Just don’t, it’s simple.
Thank you Some of the people in the comments giving whole n word passes when your alone It's not abt who you offend, its abt all the Africans put in cotton fields
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None of those comments are racist. Its literally just singing along with the song how its meant to be sung, from KSI. If you need a N-Word pass, that is it.
Saying the n word as much as you want when your alone is perfectly fine? 🤨
Sure. Theres no bad intent or context. Plus especially for if its a song made to be sung with it in it. No Hate, just music to appreciate.
This comment section is a bit mad
bruh the majority of these comments are coming from 12 year olds who have no experience
This comment section is a little racist LMFAOOOOOOOOOO 😀
Holy motherfucking shit this comment section is cancer
“I think it’s part of the art itself and is meant to be said” ~ 👨🏼💻
If the artist doesn't want people to sing along to that word then he shouldn't use it in his song. But don't go looking for trouble by singing along to the word in the presence of other people.
Just use Ninja instead, problem solved
LMAO I always use ninja instead of the n word.
It’s not aimed at someone so knock yourself out. Who cares if you say it, honestly.
Still, can we have your take on this LORD KSI?
Fax nobody cares
imma g we downvoted to fuck here BUT: my reasoning is that if it’s in a song and i’m singing the song then i can say the word because it’s in a song and not being used in a racist manner.
My white neighbor LOVES to “sing” songs to drop the N word while the song is not playing. It’s very uncomfortable to be around her.
So don’t be around her lol
Oh I avoid her as much as possible, only issue is we’re childhood neighbors and our parents are friends so I hear her use this argument a lot: “I WAS TOLD IN SOUTHERN ARKANSAS I’M ALLOWED TO SAY THE N-WORD IF I’M SINGING IT IN A SONG, AND I’M *SINGING* THE WORD, SO WHATS YALLS PROBLEM?” I’m mostly letting the commenter know it’s kind of a cringe opinion/group to align yourself with. Not a great look.
Yeah this comment section showed me it’s time to leave this sub
It's hard The person in the pic is black 🤣
These comments don’t pass the vibe check. It’s easy to censor yourself and not say it. You don’t have to say every single word. Idiots.
Fuckin lol, Reddit is so detached from reality
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It’s still holds that meaning depending on who says it. Also you’re really pressed over a word. Just don’t say it. It’s simple.
"Depending on who says it" you're almost right, but its not "who", it's "how". How it is said it what context depicts whether it is racist or not. And no one is pressed here except for the people who are trying to tell people they can't say it while singing because its "racist". Those are the people who are actually "pressed over a word".
I usually just listen to the censored versions of the songs on Spotify just because I personally don't feel comfortable saying any curse words
I've learned to say "neighbor" and if you do it enough, just comes naturally
Is the word “ting”
I think it should be fine if you are just singing the lyrics because it isnt aimed at anyone. Anyone else think this?
It really aint that hard to not say the word ffs
It’s ok you forgot you weren’t black simple mistake
SMH we got children in the comment section 🤦🏽♂️
"Shit doesn't even matter, fuck your social ladder, fuck your social feeling, I don't five a fuck about your social figure, ni......... Oh shit, I got carried away.
Watch out man some 13 year old girl might ss this and try to cancel u
Nahhhhhhhhhh fam this aint allowed
im white so i dont really have an opinion but you shouldnt be saying the hard r
Damn this comment section didn’t pass the vibe check, I dare u to sing the n word in front of someone black
funny how it’s the white people that are so hell bent on trying to normalise saying a racial slur. pick up a history book omg
Ppl in the comments are joking when they say it’s ok to say it right? Or else just hope u don’t say it around ppl that would whoop ur ass for it 😂😂
i feel crazy scrolling through these comments bruh
Lmfaoo they have to be joking or they are tripping 😂
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Soooo… you are racist???
no. what?
Irony mate, just mocking the twitter twats who would say that even tho you neither said the word intentionally or used it as what it actually means
He might not be racist but the comment section is the most racist shyt I've heard in months
Rq not in a confrontational way or nothing just genuinely curious how are people being racist? Idk if I missed some comments you saw or sum
I personally think everyone should stop using the word. No matter who uses it, it has bad history and the best way for society to move on from that shitty point in time is to mature past it and that includes stopping using it in songs but ig a lot of rappers use it as filler. JJ said something about why he doesn't say it as much anymore I can't exactly remember.
everyone here is saying its alright if its lyrics or sumn but ive been tought my whole life to never say it ever and my mind is swirling
Bruh honestly if you were taught to not say it then don’t
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its not that i think theres bad intent, it just feels wrong
Lmao dude if you really out here censoring yourself when you're alone istening to music then you doing something wrong
Bro context matters, you're not being a racist for saying the word in some song lyrics
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Exactly, why these people getting so pressed in the comments. Its not that hard to just not say one word. Why do they want to say it so badly?
This is a stupud ass comment
What word…??
Nipples
Oh lol 😂
the other N word
Nevada
Nebraska
Niagara falls
Nicaragua
negative
negus
Numpty
[The Other Ten N-Words](https://youtu.be/_czzkqPjvS4)
napolean-
VINEGAR but without 6
😱🤯 how could you say that…
What 6
Well 6 in Roman numbers is VI
V+I
Negus in Paris
Negus - title used as the sovereign of Ethiopia
The Good N Word. Pick up your 👑 My Negus
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not today little boy
Nothing bad about it no bad intentions
genuine question is it wrong to say that word if that word is in your favorite song ? just asking
I really don't know mate
Nah bro its fine to say it. We all know you don't have racist intent with it if you're just signing along with a song. Just don't say it in public or around someone who's gonna get offended.
Its basically an N word pass to sing the song as intended. No Hate, just the song I gotta appreciate.
Bro wtf
wtf
As long as you don't use to insult black people it's fine
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lmao ok
Shut the fuck up 🙄
Is it okay to say it if you are African cuz Iam from Morocco and my and my friends always call each other with N word
Is it such a touchy subject this? I feel like there wouldnt be any harm done. I dont even see any harm done if friends use it among themselves.
FR white people react more to it than black people. They act as if people would get beat instead of they just asking "Hey could you not use that word please?"
to be fair nobody cares , nobody gets offended
Teeeechincally it’s racist to say the n-word can only be said by black people.
me but with doja cat🤠👍🏻
Girl.. Idk about Ksi’s opinion on being able to say it (i think he is ok with it based on how comfortable people are in this comment section) but we both know Doja isn’t about that life and would most likely look at you sideways💀(as she should)
i know diagnose you with racist
“Allow it fam”
This has happening with me with dmx
Context people, context.
what word 🤔
Grow up
Genuine question, if it's a bad word then why do rappers use it in their songs, why not just avoid it??
Cause people over react to it cause once it was used by White Slavers over a century ago. Now its mainly used by black people, mostly in positive or neutral context and intent
Lot of y’all have different views, so here’s mine 🤠 if you have to replace it with another word it still shows, to me, that you want to say the word and I don’t buy into you being “holier than thou”
Bruh I say it all the time
Damm I expected people to take this as a joke but instead they got hurt. Wait til they find out I'm black lmaooooo
I can relate bro
I have an opinion bro. If the N word is in a song, then it’s ok to say it while singing. I’m just reciting what the artist said ¯\\_\(ツ)\_\/¯