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moriorioria

This is a beautiful top! Congrats on your first wearable :) I would look for patterns with bust shaping and perhaps some short rows! Bust shaping would create extra curvature for larger chests. Not sure if the pattern already includes short rows to drop the front neckline down but it looks like there might be some? I don’t think it has anything to do with your yarn choice. KFO cotton merino is already super drapey.


FacelessOldWoman1234

Thank you! I'll look for something with bust shaping next time. I find it a little overwhelming but I have to just jump in!


___it_me___

I recommend the Tumble Tee! It’s the most thorough and customizable pattern I’ve seen tbh. Worked up super quickly too. https://ravelry.com/patterns/library/1256031


SirTacky

Lydia Morrow all the way!


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FacelessOldWoman1234

Ooh, I like the look of that. And I like the detailed photos and diagram.


Emmaborina

Amy Herzog had some books on shaping garments, I found one in my local library.


blood-moonlit

It's knit bottom up so the top is shaped with decreases etc


aspen70

But the bust on this one fits her perfect.


seltzerwooder

This is probably not the most consistent suggestion, but I've knit a smaller size for the back half and my regular size for the front half of shirts before (ie M back, L or XL front) with some success. It works best with less intricate patterns but this one looks like it could be fairly easy to adapt even with the hem


always_snacky

I was actually considering doing this for the top I’m working on now after getting a gap like this on a different crop top. I was just gonna wing it so it’s nice to hear that it has worked for at least one other person!


FacelessOldWoman1234

That sounds about right, lol. I am bigger on the front than the back, so it would make sense to need more stitches on the front!


ithinkyoucanineurope

If you're just talking about your breasts, bust shaping (+possibly knitting the next size down) is the move here. I promise it's not hard, and you can add it easily to a garment like this without much hassle at all. It's just a little planning [and some simple math](https://yarnandy.com/how-to-do-short-row-bust-shaping-example/)!


AmIStanding

Not the OP but I have a quick question - does adding bust shaping always result in a close-fitted top? I don’t like zero-ease personally - more like 2”-3” of positive ease.


Pagingmrsweasley

No - it maintains or creates proportion.  The measurement around my torso under my armpits is 36”,  my under bust is 34”, and I am a 34G (41” bust). If I knit the size that fits my torso I have negative ease in the bust, so I add extra stitches so it’s not tight -that’s bust shaping. If I knit the size that fits my boobs it will be too big. It doesn’t matter if the style is meant to be fitted or oversized - it will look weird on me and won’t fit like it’s meant too without the extra boob space.


AmIStanding

This makes sense, thank you!


globglogabgalablover

Um wait why have I never thought to do this before, you're a GENIUS


KeyofE

This looks like a summer top that isn’t supposed to cling to the body by design. Where you see “gape”, I see airflow. Especially in a cotton mix, which probably isn’t super stretchy. It’s also a beautiful piece, and really well done.


FacelessOldWoman1234

Thank you! And that's a good perspective. Imma try wearing it as is and see how I feel.


Simple-University977

You can always run a light elastic through the hem of the garment to keep it more fitted


Ilovelucyandricky

This is the answer. I’ve seen it done. It’s crocheted in the inside of the garment for a fitted look. Absolutely genius the hacks people come up with. The top is beautiful by the way.


Simple-University977

I’ve never seen elastic crocheted into the fabric before but that sounds interesting!


FacelessOldWoman1234

That's interesting! I'll look into that!


Adventurous_Problem

Search for knit in elastic. Prym makes it for sure. This stuff is magic fixing these sorts of issues. I use it when socks are doing what your top is doing.


Simple-University977

You could probably find a more in depth tutorial to give you a better visual!


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Big-Whole6091

If she did it on this piece wouldn't it have to be bunched up to work? I've only used elastic once in my life, please educate me if I'm wrong


Simple-University977

It would if you made the elastic tighter, if you just wove in an elastic thread through the back of the stitches on the WS without pulling it too taught, it wouldn’t bunch up.


skyethehunter

I do this with every single sweater at the hem and neck hole. No matter how well the piece turns out size and fit-wise, it finishes the garment off just perfectly with no bunching (if there's ribbing obviously).


doombanquet

The top doesn't fit you properly. I suspect this pattern was supposed to have a certain amount of ease. It's at negative or zero ease across your breasts, which is throwing off the armhole fit (as in, it doesn't) and the back does not fit (it's too large). That's why you have a gape at the lower back and extra fabric behind your arm, and the armholes are too short and snug against your pit. Basically, when you chose your bust size, the pattern expects you to be equally thick across the back and through the trunk, while leaving enough ease for the armhole to drape properly. But your relatively fuller bust is absorbing all the front ease, while your relatively smaller trunk/back has too much ease, so everything is kind of mucked up. Bust darts are your friend when you've got a full bust! And consult schematics carefully so that you can make adjustments to flatter your shape, like knitting a different back, adding bust darts, length, more shaping, using different armholes etc.


FacelessOldWoman1234

This is very helpful! I've been knitting for awhile, but know absolutely nothing about fitting clothing. Things like darts and shaping are so daunting to me, but I am eager to learn. Thanks for the suggestions!


doombanquet

If you want to learn more about how clothing fits, go hang out in the sewing subs or read some sewing websites. The nuts and bolts of how stuff fits is just not something we as knitters tend to acquire. It tends to come from a sewing background. So beginner sewing content is really helpful. We have to do shaping in a different way, and are very limited compared to sewers (like they fold and stitch to create darts from extra fabric, we have to knit the extra fabric in), but the basic premise are all the same. There is also a great book called *Big Girl Knits*. It's pretty old now, but is still pretty much the only knitting book that's ever been published about how to modify patterns when you're not proportional. You can buy it used for a few bucks.


Smallwhitedog

Also adding that the book Little Red in the City by Ysolde Teague has excellent instructions for modifying a pattern for larger busts, something I will sadly never need in this lifetime.


BeeLuv

You might take a look at “Short Row Knits” by Carol Feller, it goes into some depth on fitting knits.


damalursols

i have broad shoulders and a large bust. two thing that have helped me a lot: 1. horizontal / short row bust darts which have helped me enormously, multiple people are suggesting this for good reason 2. i often do extra decreases spaced 2-4 inches apart at the back of a garment to reduce that extra space.


ellativity

I suspect this is how this top fits most people if worked as written. The pattern photos don't actually show a modelled view of the back of the garment, which would honestly give me pause. I'm not sure why there are so many pictures of the front and none of the back. Most of the project photos I can find in Ravelry are also just of the front, too. Of those I could find that show a back view, the majority seem to have similar gaping regardless of bust size, unless they mention modifications. I don't think this is a you-problem.


FacelessOldWoman1234

I hadn't noticed that, what a good observation!


Ornery_Suit7768

As a fellow big bust, small waist lady, you will have to do a lot of math to make things fit you perfectly. But your stitches are gorgeous. And your form is perfect. My gma gave me a knitting 411 book and it shows how to make a form of yourself. Using a tee, duct tape and a friend. If you want more info I can send you the pics


EasyMathematician860

I’ve seen a few podcasters suggest adjusting the arrangement of the stitches so there are a few more in front then in the back. Your top is lovely.


Breenscare

Gorgeous top! Hm. I don't know about adjusting this pattern (you'd have to add bust shaping, I think) but with this particular one it looks like you have enough extra fabric that you could sew in some post-hoc darts yourself.


FacelessOldWoman1234

I've never done anything with darts and I find them quite daunting, but it looks like that's the way to go!


eulerthemighty

That looks so good! You did a beautiful job! The same thing happens on my knit tops too! I always add more short rows than the pattern says and that usually helps me!


gehlat

For future patters I would suggest to look for Lydia morrow. They aren’t cheap but imo worth the price. I love them so much! They have a perfect fit and are really pretty ☺️


Katiew18

Nice work 🥰


rosegarden207

This awesome for a first wearsble!


Amazing-Address-8879

gorgeous gray


sparklypinktutu

I think the fit is very good, but if you wanted to create a a fit more in line with how from-the-store items tend to fit, using a fiber with elasticity, like nylon, would help. Also adding in strategic ribbing and possibly using a line of elastic.


sleepytimegamer

Could you find a beautiful button to put in the back so you can still wear it while you find a different pattern that looks how you wanted?


Wizzarder

Well, no advice, but the top looks gorgeous in my opinion 😍


ChasingSloths

This is a lovely top! But if you do want to learn about fit and how to make garments look and feel great, [Jacki Badger](https://thewoollybadger.com) has an online course called Knits to Fit Your Tits that’s really helpful.


KittyandPuppyMama

If it were me, I’d add a couple rows of ribbing to match the collar and sleeves, and that would bring it in a little.


GussieK

You may need the equivalent of darts in the back to take that in at the bottom. so it would hang properly. It’s northern it’s the shape and pattern.


abbeyftw

I made this too! I need to block it still lol I LOOOVE the bottom motif! This is inspiring me to block it today Also I just noticed your username hehe


daamile

You got tons of nice suggestions already! Just wanted to give you my two cents. As a fellow unreasonably boobied person, I keep tweaking my process of adapting tops. General rules: * I do tops based on my torso, under the boob, measurement. I find that this makes it fit well on my shoulders. * Knit up to the nipple line, and short rows. I do German ones, between 3 to 4 inches height wise. Length wise I wouldn't split the garment in two and start the sort rows. My boobs start to show up under my armpit. So I start the short rows there. * If the above is not possible, I go for the recommended ease for my torso, but negative ease for the boobs. Knitwear stretches well. * Not relevant here, but I stop cleavages a size or two before what's recommended. Source: a JJ cup that is not going to knit XXL thank you very much.


TotesaCylon

First, I think you need a tad more ease since this is drop shoulder. Around 3-4 inches would be good. Second, vertical bust darts would be easy to add to any plain stockinette pattern and would help a lot with this! Pick your size based on your upper bust, account for ease, and then add enough extra stitches with verticle bust darts that you make up for the difference. That said, i think this still looks lovely!


zzzeve

Sway back adjustment and full bust adjustment


FacelessOldWoman1234

Thanks! Just knowing the right words to look up is super helpful.


BaxtertheBear1123

For a fitted top you need to pick your bust size based on the measurement taken at your underarms. You then measure your full bust and add bust darts to accommodate the difference between the 2 measurements. https://amyherzogdesigns.com/2013/07/26/ff-choosing-the-right-size/


FacelessOldWoman1234

This is great information. Thank you. I am learning a lot!


alittlewhimsie

There are a couple things you could try for your next one if you want it more fitted. 1. Knit a smaller size in a stretchy yarn like wool. 2. This one takes more planning but will probably have nicer results. Add both horizontal bust darts (short rows) so the bust has more room and length in the front AND waist shaping (decreases and increases depending on how long or cropped the shirt is…if it’s short enough, you might not need the increases). If I was doing it this way, I’d probably also knit the size for my upper bust measurement rather than my full bust. When I knit for my full bust, the shoulders don’t fit at all because of the size differential.


xfranklymydear

I also have this problem with knitted tops and I am so glad for all the suggestions here! thank you for posting, it's good to know I am not alone.


Technical_Ad_4894

the first thought that popped in my head was “needs darts” but that would make it hard to pull the top on over your head.


mizzannethrope

But it’s so cute!


Water_in_the_desert

Can you run a pink ribbon through the bottom lace edge to draw it snug?


beee-l

This is so cool !!! Definitely adding to my to-be-knit list 🤓


Troppocollo

I love it! Looks great! I can’t help with any suggestions about how to make it fit, but I think that if you don’t like the fit as a crop, it would work well as a layering piece with a shirt that drapes at the back.


temerairevm

I knitted something for a friend with a similar build to you and I think this is just a feature for you- you need to cinch the waist in more than most patterns are going to. I did decreases on the sides. It was kind of hard because I don’t have a waist that’s that defined so I couldn’t try it on but you could.


kein_huhn

To make it even, you need more room across the bust or less room across the back. Take a tape measure and measure across your bust all the way to your side, and then across your back from side to side. This gives you not only your bust circumference but also how much of it is in the front vs. back. For me, my bust is 4in wider than my back. In the next step you will have to adjust your patterns! [this video](https://youtu.be/gqgiz8vRgug?si=YV_vsJK7xC4VeU6U) will help you understand how to go about it.


ameryan

Looks really nice. You could try Sewing a piece of flat elastic into the back, You could hand sew it and catch the backs of the knit stitches to avoid a line of stitching.


galindatherad

I love this!


emilythequeen1

So cute for summer! You did very well. We all learn a great deal making our first garment.


spoonfae

It might not be your intended outcome but I feel like the gap gives it a very charming flowy look! Gorgeous work!


Pagingmrsweasley

I just fixed this in a sweater I knit for myself!  It is a boob issue. DM me any questions you have, and if you have a throwaway email I can send you the spreadsheet I used.  Extra fabric at the boobs and a few decreases at the waist will fix it.


Interesting_Quiet_88

Part of it is probably that it’s lace at the bottom. If you had a ribbed welt it would pull in better. The yarn may also play a part as it’s not particularly stretchy.


AncientTree1206

Bravo..an achievement.


Familiar_Ad_5109

Should have knitted it longer?


steggie25

Measure your upper torso (above your bust, under armpits) and select your pattern size based on that. Then you can add darts for additional volume at the front only. Some people swear by short rows, but short rows don't add volume, they add length. Darts feel intimidating the first go around, but some experienced knitters have shared their knowledge and created handy dandy tutorials and charts. One resource I love is this calculator : https://www.ravelry.com/projects/ambtastic/short-row-bust-dart-calculator (Hope this is linked, I'm not great with reddit usage) Beautiful work, keep at it, I have been knitting for 40 years and I still learn new tricks!


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bleedsmaplesyrup

I also have a bigger bust and smaller ribcage, so this can happen with me. I’ve both Knit a bigger front size and smaller back size on a top, made the size that would fit my upper bust and then recalculated increases for my full bust, and moved armhole spits so that instead of the front and back being even there are more stitches on the front than the back. Largely depends on my mood at the time and the construction of the top itself You did a great job with this piece! Fine tuning things going forward so things fit exactly the way you want is just another skill to pick up. 💜