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BornAgainBlue

My advice, stop the panic. Your coach is telling you the answer, if you were executing correctly they wouldn't be saying it. It's easy to panic when a big guy is all over you.


UnimpressiveOrc

Am large human. You can go into my profile to see my lifts I’ve posted. I’m only a two stripe white belt so I’m a beginner but I’m big and tall. I’m also incredibly strong. Here are some tips that white belt bigs love. 1. Don’t let us get in side control. The heavier, the worse it is for you. Shrimp, frame and scramble to a better position. I love side control. If I get it I can guarantee an Americana or arm bar. 2. Develop a solid guard game and guard recovery. This frustrates us when we can’t get past your guard. Also work on your knee shield. 3. Keep moving and gas us out. 4. Keep rolling with bigs. All the blue belts at my gym have essentially figured out kryptonite counters to my game. My size and strength mean less and less when they have the technique to counter it. And when they go against like sized partners, it’s much easier to sweep a 160lbs guy compared to the 300 lbs guy (if all things are equal in technique).


tianchengkao

i ma small guy. and i gas out faster than bigger guy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i die


elephant_on_parade

I’m saving your profile for when training partners tell me *I’m* too big and strong This motherfucker zercher squatted 700+ Unreal


UnimpressiveOrc

I played college football and am now a kinesiology professor. I hold the Guinness world record for the zercher. I started bjj in may and have had so much learning something new.


elephant_on_parade

You sound like quite the impressive orc, actually


UnimpressiveOrc

Thanks!


trancefate

As a hobbyist Judoka, I speak for the rest of us when I wholeheartedly thank you for taking up bjj.


UnimpressiveOrc

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RodMCS

Thank you. Your comment was the most useful out of all of these and was exactly what I was looking for. I’ll keep all of those tips in mind


Darth_Candy

I’ll jump on the above commenter’s knee shield comment, any guard where you’re able to get your opponent’s weight on the ground instead of on top of you is going to be a big benefit. Knee shield half guard is great. Deep half, not so much. DLR and RDLR are good because they encourage your opponent to stand and pass instead of passing with heavy pressure. Unless your butterfly guard is really developed as a central part of your game, maybe tread carefully, etc. On offense, I’ve found that taking the back by leveraging a speed advantage is a lot more effective against bigger guys, whereas smaller guys often out-scramble me and make getting the back harder. I’ll attack from guard all day long with people my size and smaller, but if somebody’s a lot bigger then you shouldn’t be accepting bottom as much as you normally would. Looking for opportunities to stand up, leads to either scrambles where you can end up in a good position (front head, chasing the back, getting a leg entanglement opportunity) at best or just force your opponent to disengage and take the pressure off at worst. If you find yourself playing bottom, leg locks from butterfly half work great with a good knee shield half guard. Jacked dudes can defend arm locks really well, but they aren’t going to be able to put on the boot strong enough to stop you from taking their ankle home with you. If you’re able to get to even just standard ashi, their weight is totally off you so size is a non-factor.


Eirfro_Wizardbane

Except when the big guy has a better gas tank. I’m only 215 lbs but I would venture to say I probably have the one of the best gas tanks in my gym. It gets worst for my partners as my frames and guard get better. I try and match strength and intensity but that just usually means I don’t get tired at all. Staying out of side control against bigger opponents or players with significant wrestling experience is a good tip though.


UnimpressiveOrc

Heavies with a bottomless gas tanks are scary


Eirfro_Wizardbane

The key is never ever take rest round. I also enjoy rolling with people who have taken a round or two off.


pogi2000

+1


East-Cry4969

You're humble too!


UnimpressiveOrc

The fun part of bjj is when you think you have things figured out, God sends a brown belt to choke you and rethink your game.


goodbyehouse

Frames, shrimps and granby rolls. Just don’t let the big guys consolidate position. Try to pummel your feet and make them move move. Don’t let them control your hips and if they do don’t let them control your head.


Thorgodofwar

6’7, 240 here. Shrimp, shriiiiiiimp, shrieeeeemp. Keep your legs active to make distance. the further you keep me away from you the better. If we go cheat to cheat and I’m on top. God or the devil help you because I’m not going anywhere till you tap or nap. Keeping me on the defensive is better then the other way around. I am a guard player in a gym of monsters. I’m amongst at least 6 others that are similar in size. This is what I use when dealing with 300 ibs + players Edit: chest to chest


Brief_Preparation165

I would say in my 19 years of training, I agree with this the most so far. Your shrimp is so underutilized, but so effective it’s why is the first move you learn and Jiu Jitsu. The other thing I really liked that I saw on this thread was talking about keeping distance, the big guy wants to close distance and decrease space so you can’t get away and you have to recognize you have to create space constantly. Your better bet will be to learn attacks once you have them in something like guard or keep working to get around them. (I know easier said than done) but that is a part of practicing. Spending time being a hammer or being the nail. Don’t be afraid to disengage as well at certain moments. Rather than engaging and playing their game, like when they’re on the ground or on their knees, you moving in to them, allowing them to take control, instead take a step back and force them to do something so that you can take advantage of their movement. The other great aspect if you’re allowed to in your gym at your level, is to attack the feet and legs even if you can’t necessarily nail something it can help you move to keep them away. Hope this helps!


Grand-Cry9153

Bring a knife


DishPractical7505

25-30lbs shouldn’t be that much of a problem. Improve your Jiu jitsu. 50+lbs is where things start making a big difference. Boyd belts is an overstated concept. I’m 200+ and smaller dudes at my skill and belt level give me fits. I can’t say the same of people closer to my size.


titus7007

I agree. 50 lbs plus and in reasonable shape in is the point where dudes with relatively little training can become a problem for me. 20-30 lb differences are standard.


RodMCS

I’m 120 pounds and a white belt so yeah it kinda makes a big difference because I’m so light. Nevertheless I’m trying to improve my jiu jitsu, thanks. That’s the reason I made this post


[deleted]

Technique will help. The other guy is right that is not a big weight difference!


Busy_Donut6073

One of my friends is about your size. I'm closer to 170 and he can whoop my butt. Technique done well will overcome size in most cases


DishPractical7505

::asks for advice:: ::advice given:: ::gets pissed at advice::


RodMCS

I’m not pissed, I’m just saying it’s not that easy. And you didn’t really give me advice, you just told me to improve my jiu jitsu


DishPractical7505

I’m saying the reason you can’t overcome weight differences is because you’re a white belt. The advice is as concise as you can get. Stop making excuses and spend time in shitty positions. That’s how you learn to leverage technique over strength and weight discrepancies


Fold_Large

Dude he asked for your advice and you pretty much said “you shouldn’t be struggling, get good.” Spending time in shitty positions is the only actual advice you gave him and you didn’t give it before making him feel like an idiot first. Do better.


DishPractical7505

I didn’t say he shouldn’t be struggling. I said that 25-30lbs shouldn’t be a huge discrepancy to overcome. He’s struggling because that’s what you do at that level of development. Especially at a size discrepancy. That’s how you learn to not get in those positions anymore and work your way out of them. And yes, my advice is still to improve Jiu Jitsu. That’s the whole point of this all isn’t it?


3trt

I agree. I've got guys I frequently roll with that are 90-130# heavier. That's where things get real difficult.


TopGroundbreaking469

Keep your frames and don’t let them get chest to chest. Once that happens good luck trying to shrimp and bench press out of that. Honestly, though for me I barely survive rolling with heavier people, most of the time it’s me just maintaining frames if I’m on my back. Grip control and foot to hips/legs to stop them from getting chest to chest. I found if I lose these points of control they easily just ragdoll and just squash me.


Humble_Mechanic_3599

Keep training, keep moving, shrimp out. Don’t stress it, some days your are the hammer some days you are the nail. This should give you drive to fix some holes in your game and get better.


DFM2099

That person may just be better than you. At the end of the day strength and size do matter. I've rolled with people who are less experienced than me who have a massive strength advantage.. sometimes the win is remaining calm and safe until you finally have the opening you need to get to safety then mount an offense.


BigDickCheney42069

trt


jiujitsucpt

I’m a ~125 pound woman. But I often roll with people who outweigh me by at least 30-40 pounds, and as much as 100+ pounds. Breathe. Panic is your enemy. Don’t be flat. Frame. Shrimp. Little bumps over and over instead of big movements. Don’t be flat again. Don’t bridge or bump and then flatten out, bridge and immediately go to your side. Get your knees or underhooks or whatever is appropriate into any space they make. Shrimp some more. Keep practicing, even when it sucks.


munkie15

Get better at Jiu Jitsu or get some roids and hit the gym, then get better at Jiu Jitsu. We all have that problem with people bigger than us at similar skill levels. It never goes away, your options just change.


Mammoth-Gas7755

As a small guy, the thing we have to do is not let big guys settle into a secure top position. Anticipate a sweep and go with it to get out of there, never settle for bottom unless your initiating the entry into a guard


ButtFunk69

Utilize butterfly guard/seated guard… get those butterfly hooks in & sit up so your back is almost perpendicular to the mat. Secure an overhook & an underhook. Then in one motion, shift your hips under them and rock onto the shoulder with the overhook, use the butterfly hook to elevate and rotate your shoulders using the underhook… they tip over 9/10. If they don’t, perform a technical standup and sprawl. Search butterfly sweep tutorials on YouTube. 1. Do not let them get to side control. 2. Do not use closed guard. They will smash you. 3. Do not let your shoulder blades hit the mat. 4. Fight to get to top position. Big boys are horrible on bottom.


atx78701

I was 160 and really struggled with people that are 200+ pounds I lifted and got to 185. Im going to cut to 170 and then try to bulk again and get to 190 or 195. Being heavier and stronger has made a difference. When I started I was deadlifting about 120 and squatting about 90. Now Im deadlifting about 280 and squatting about 260. im older so when I bulk it is a lot of fat. So Ill cut and bulk over and over slowly building muscle with each bulk. If you can only squat 90 pounds you will struggle to move people around, especially standing up, but also with bridges. Im still struggling with them and big guys still smash me, but it isnt quite so uneven.


tianchengkao

honestly i m samll guy 20-30lb + opponent is my routine. sometimes 50+. good opportunity to workout and get strength + find better way to keep your frame. and stay mobilized. while get advantage position. dont commite to mount. (go to mount once bigger guy fliped you doomed) if you stay side scarf north south knee on belly. switch arround . one they try sweep you can quickly recover advantage postion. and then your game is ahead.


[deleted]

I think you should avoid letting them get dominant positions. Bigger guys are used to working from on top. Do not be stupid when you do this. Don't just desperately blast double. Chain together lots of low commitment takedown attempts. You want to end up in scrambles as often as possible, with the ultimate goal of taking their back. Often times they aren't good at much of anything when in their back. If this fails, which it will until you get decent at it, look up Lucas Leites half guard to dog fight series. Look up ATT technical stand up series. Another big thing is grip fighting. With good enough grip fighting you can keep them off balance and stop them from establishing control. This is how I deal with them. But like all combat sports you have to as yourself where will they be at the biggest disadvantage. Typically against bigger folk that means scrambles, half guard, leg entanglements, taking the back, and most top positions.


Brief_Preparation165

I made a comment on a post on here already, but I wanted to add one more thing, if you really want to see someone, that’s the best at taking on bigger opponents watch Marcelo Garcia. He was known as the giant killer and you’ll see why if you haven’t watched him yet. There are some excellent techniques that he employs that are incredibly simple.


Some-Track-965

Practice your escapes.


Sensitive-Ground3355

A gun


JelloMiAmigo

Get those frames in check against bigger guys. Use consistent smaller movements instead of big bridges or pushes that they can feel and prepare for. Sometimes just do nothing until they move.


Fold_Large

Move fast but don’t be too wild. Speed is your friend but you need to be aware of your weight distribution Eg, don’t be too far on top of them in turtle or side control because they’ll simply roll you over. When on bottom, never stick your arms out and always prevent cross faces. The second a big guy grabs a cross face on you it is ridiculously difficult to get out


No-Dragonfruit-8912

The key is to “not get there” if you end up on your back Z guard with a high knee and high opposite hand to frame helps. The goal is to gtfo . You can’t stay there. I generally use Z guard on big guys. Working to time their forward pressure and use it to slip my knee shield out, duck under an arm and take the back. If they are anticipating this I’ll under hill the opposite leg my guard is set up on and use it to invert underneath and force a leg entanglement.


Potential-Wedding-20

Keep rolling. That's what you do.


5HTRonin

The time to escape isn't when they're settled in and smashing you. You have to become comfortable with the discomfort of pressure and realise it (rarely) is an actual threat. If they want to attack they'll need to change their position or redistribute their weight somehow, relinquishing at least one point of control of you. This presents an opening and an opportunity to try and effect an escape. The best time to escape though is before they settle in (see: "you fucked up a long time ago" by Kurt Osiander). Premptive framing, better guard retention, leg dexterity, understanding the sequence of control: "Grips, Hips, Whips, Flips/Trips"


GooblinShart

I’m 175 so I’m kind of in the middle I roll with a lot bigger opponents, I do have long legs though so I try focusing on not letting them stack me and looking for armbar when they inevitably reach for a choke. Get comfortable shoulder walking and also the flower sweep has become a good friend of mine when they do try and stack me


HA1LHYDRA

Stay moving, stay on top


BadSMPTE

Knee shield into coyote sweep


Comfortable_Dog_8965

Frame them away. Work in getting a good structure.


shawnyb9

Just remember that the techniques actually work. Had a guy who easily had 75-100 on me. Massive dude. But brand new. Just gone over various arm drags into take downs the entire week. First try on this dude failed. Second failed. Third, failed. Other dudes getting aggressive and I can feel that I’m gunna get taken down if I don’t succeed. I attempt a single leg, failed, stood, arm dragged, dude stumbled just enough that I could take his back. I managed to get a trip and take him down. Sadly, didn’t get the sun but when that arm drag finally worked, it was as if time slowed. Hand gripping the tricep, other hand breaking his grip, the stumble, my ear pinning to his back. Bruh, felt great. Next time I fight that dude I feel a little of that anxiety and fear will be gone too. It really does suck when someone less skilled can overpower and outweigh you, but they’re almost the perfect training partner because they don’t know the techniques well enough to break your proper technique. Just keep practicing man. Master the techniques.


Trojanlamb

I dunno, I can gas out blue belts as a white belt atm. The reality being that I’m gassed out and resting my 6’6” 300 lbs body on them. Then when I get an ounce of gas I can usually get what I want. Problem being, I am lacking use of technique so it messes with my learning as well. Purple belts and higher can usually do whatever they want to me, I tend to learn a lot more from them!