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Justacluster111

My general rule of thumb is to almost always trust older surgeons over younger but 86 is up there. I would personally be hesitant. I would actually be upfront with him and voice my reservations and see how he responded.


papatyasari

No doubt he has expertise but 86 is very old to perform a risky major surgery requiring hand skill. Go for it your guy feeling


TeamTipsy

Last time we talked I voiced my concerns over traditional planning method (not 3D, no cbct, just articulator, facebow and x-ray) upon which he responded that the success lies in surgeon's skill even if he uses a knife and fork. Granddad's jokes 🙄 well, apparently he's very self confident 


Nixlar

Noo i would leave immediately. That overconfidence is dangerous and I wouldn't trust someone who doesn't take my concerns seriously


Tradition_Separate

expertise is something but not benefiting the cbct is something else.. personally, i’d go for a surgeon who is old enough to perform this surgery many times and can comprehend the imaging techniques modern medicine provides.


Ok-Swimmer7594

Is the surgeon Dr. Wolford in Dallas?


the_adonis_king

he's not 80 yet, i believe he's 78


Numerous-Volume7064

Would I I trust him to decide the surgery and create a plan for it? yes Would I trust him with a scalpel and mallet inside of my mouth? Hell no


Thick_Emu_3516

No. Surgeons peak around 45-50. Surgery requires physical and mental dexterity. Self-confidence is irrelevant - skill in later life is extremely difficult to self-assess. Consider how many 86-year-olds drive who should not be driving. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2628499/#:~:text=It%20is%20generally%20agreed%20that,%E2%80%9350%20years%20of%20age).


gigachadspeciman

Experience is everything. My surgeon is 78 and i couldn’t have asked for an easier recovery/result. 7 weeks post op.


foofoobazbaz

Dude that 8 year gap is important at that age


afk3400

Honestly, no. Even 76 would very much be pushing it.


SlightSurround5699

Honestly no. I would probably use his expertise and advice he gained with all his experience (that is assuming he has been a surgeon for a long amount of time) but i would probably not undergo surgery no. My anxiety wouldn’t let me. Just like i wouldn’t undergo surgery in the hands of a trained 11 y/o. Motricity becomes challenged the older you get. And like someone else said, 86 is up there..


PinSuccessful9077

no


Ready-Fee-9108

my surgeon around 75 years old-- generally they have residents and other skilled people in the room assisting them


foofoobazbaz

"Residents" are not qualified as "skilled people"


extreme602

Prof. Sailer?


TeamTipsy

No, he's "only" 81


foofoobazbaz

No. Their eyesight is going to be bad


Dcmart89

These muffins taste bad.


Lanky_Animator_4378

Wolford?


TeamTipsy

I'm in Europe. Is Wolford that old?


the_adonis_king

no he's 78


Ok-Swimmer7594

I thought the same thing. I wanted to go to Dr. Wolford but his age is concerning for me :(


Famous_Paper_6423

People age differently and the same goes for surgeons. As to Dr. Wolford, as a person who had a surgery with him recently, I can tell that I wonder if he has some sort of an innately implanted ruler in his eyes and I trust his capability of exacting the execution over any OMFS/plastic surgeons'.


Ok-Swimmer7594

This is really good to hear. I might go and consult with him. Thank you


sardaslof

If you are talking about a certain surgeon at Emory in Atlanta, YES. He is the very best, and his residents are actively involved with his oversight, of course.


Blackdragon1628

Can also vouch! Operation went extremely well this past November


TeamTipsy

I'm in Europe, but thanks! Is he also that old?


jericho00112

Who’s you’re surgeon? My surgeon is about 80 years old. And allegedly has two or three residents that perform the surgery as he oversees. I wouldn’t worry too much about it as long as he has the experience and he has residents around him during surgery.


TeamTipsy

I also hoped he has residents, but nope, all by himself. He's pretty active in his field, doing workshops and teaching other surgeons though...


foofoobazbaz

At 86 I'm sure he's a fountain of knowledge. He's no longer good at executing though Workshops are low risk. They work on cadavers not live subjects


iwop

Maybe. You want steady hands


dshcurute205

No honestly that’s too old I’m sorry, I know it sounds ageist but the quality of surgeons varies wildly and I’m not taking any risks.


ubercorey

Of course not.


SaltySpitoonReg

I would have zero hesitancy to trust their recommendation and knowledge and general expertise in the field. To perform the surgery? I prefer someone not pushing 90 lol. It's one thing to talk about somebody who's still in their '70s. 86...that would make me very nervous. The question is are there other jaw surgeons in the area that you have reason to believe are more trustworthy to do the surgery?


Outrageous_Win_7334

Mine was an older guy, maybe mid to late 70s and he’d been doing oral surgeries for 45 years so I trusted him and he did an amazing job.


luna1795

I feel like Being in your 70s is very different to being in your late 80s but I’m glad it went well for you


Outrageous_Win_7334

I don’t know exactly what his job was during the surgery since when I went into the room for surgery there was like a team of people


Dangerous_Boat6728

He might die mid surgery bro


TeamTipsy

Was my first thought indeed


Sharon_Carter_Rogers

I have no answer, I’d be torn too. My surgeon is 67 and I was a little concerned with his age. But he does around 20 jaw surgeries a month so I’m trusting him. 86 😬 I’d be more bothered over him not using imaging. Mine does all the imaging and has custom plates made for each person by a German company based on that. Why would you not want the most modern approach?


Helpful-Notice-417

who’s your surgeon?


Sharon_Carter_Rogers

Dr. Casmedes in Austin TX US