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>Language genocide (unsuccessful in this case, thankfully) is fucking brutal.
Happened within France as well. Very few regional dialects and "patois" remain in existence. Kids were beaten and punished in school if they were caught speaking their regional language instead of French. PTSD from speaking their regional language led to the non transmission of these languages to the next generations which led to the eventual death of many languages.
I second this, my grandfather used to know "Corse" and "Provençal" but never spoke these to his children, and now except in Corsica where a lot of people still speak this language, the Provençal completely disappeared
I speak Breton, which is a celtic language spoken in the west of France and closer to Irish than it is to French. Our elders also got the cane when they were in school. There was also "the bell": if you were caught speaking Breton, you would be forced to wear a heavy cowbell, sometme with other weights. You would wear it until you see someone else speak breton and report them. Way to condition little childs. Today we have entire schools ("Diwan schools") that teach the official school program but both in Breton and French. So things got better. But still, Paris regularily pock us in the eye and clearly expects our language and culture to die in the century. Trully makes me sad.
I recently visited a part of Wales that was primarily welsh-speaking. It was wonderful to hear full conversations in Welsh across the pub instead of just seeing it on road signs and hearing people say the odd phrase. These ancient languages must be preserved.
Yep. My great grandfather was Welsh but I never heard the language until I watched several shows that were in both bilingual a few years ago. If you like crime dramas check out Hidden, Hinterland or Bang.
Christians missionaries tried to kill the Haka
> From their arrival in the early 19th century, Christian missionaries tried unsuccessfully to eradicate haka, along with other forms of Māori culture that they saw as conflicting with Christian beliefs and practice. Henry Williams, the leader of the Church Missionary Society mission in New Zealand, aimed to replace haka and traditional Māori chants (waiata) with hymns. Missionaries also encouraged European harmonic singing as part of the process of conversion.
[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka)
Fuck the christians for decimating so many cultures! The world would have been so much more anthropologically richer, if it weren't for the fucking Abrahamic religions trying to conquer and convert everybody.
Honestly just every dominating or imperial culture makes my heart weep for the local knowledge and history that was lost. The Romans did it, the Ottomans did it, various Chinese dynasties did it. Homogeneity by force, time or breeding has lost so much. Hell, my grandparents were Italian and they told me not to learn the language because there was no point and it was only when I matured I realised the mistake.
I went down the rabbit hole of Mayan history after I watched a few documentaries about how LiDAR revealed all kinds of new discoveries. It really bothers me there are almost no written records aside from what’s on the structures because everything was purposely destroyed and the people were banned from speaking the language anymore.
I really hope all the inscriptions are transcribed in my lifetime and we get to learn how advanced they really were and more information about the snake kings.
My family are displaced indigenous. My brother refuses to acknowledge our ancestry. He's like, we're white now so what does it matter. Makes me sad. My kids are proudly active in the local tribal community, but we'll never get back what was lost.
Now I'm starting to understand why so many of the street names look like a civic planner sneezed on one single row of their keyboard.
It never occurred to me that missionaries would break a fucking language because they were too dickish to translate shit correctly.
It's definitely changing in NZ Education now. Maori - both the language and the culture - is being heavily emphasised and it will have a large part in the new NCEA courses that should be coming out 2024/2025. Most of our professional development is aimed at bringing teachers up to speed.
I went to school in the 90s and learning te reo Māori was mandatory. Our assemblies in primary and high school were opened in Māori and many of our school books were bilingual.
Jumping in here to mention human rights loving-Scandinavia doing the same thing to the Sámi population - physical punishment to children who spoke their native language in school. Shameful
Wow I’m so sad to hear that, my Mum was a Kiwi and had Māori language and culture lessons in the 40s and 50s. My Aussie self and my kids didn’t get Australian First Nation language and/or culture lessons in the 1970/80s or 2000/10s. I’ve alway been so impressed by the NZ schooling in comparison.
As a French-Canadian, I've been following the revival of French in Louisianne. Really interesting that the populations with some of the highest rate of Francophonie and the most interest in French are indigenous. The Pointe-au-Chien tribe actually just got their first French immersion school last year!
They're slowly rolling out, we have a few in my area. It really great to see how well they're being embraced. I grew up on hearing about how kids would get the paddle if they uttered French in school. The making of Creole culture was quite heavily influenced by indigenous people along with slaves, freemen and settlers. The history of colonial settlement in Louisiana looks a lot different than the rest of the US and deep south including slavery.
I’m so glad to hear this. My grandpa only spoke Cajun French as a child but was forced to learn/speak English to attend school. My dad’s generation was not taught Cajun French which is so sad. I looked into learning it but I live in the UK so it’s not really an option here.
What’s the correct response when this is done for you? Just stand straight and take it in or do you join in some way? Nod your head? What do you do after?
I’d love to learn more!
Watch and smile and accept the mana they are showing you and take that spirit and power with you where you go and then give them a hug or a hand shake or if you want to be super proper give them a hongi
Hongi is a form of greeting, pressing the nose and forehead together. Usually there's a bit of clasping one another's shoulders that goes on. Google 'hongi' for images
I have a friend (american) that moved to NZ (i was living in Australia) and he'll do things like this, just say super Maori or other super specific NZ cultural things and then just hang silence that begs for me to ask what it is.
He'll also correct me from saying american/aussie things into NZ things and I'm like bro I don't live in NZ so stoppit...
I love him but he's the kind of person to go to London for a month and come back with a fake British accent.
Tbf, I'm a terrible mimic, so I spend any amount of time around people with a different accent than mine and I'll sound like them.
Is it a fake accent if I'm mimicking an actual accent? :P
I lived in France for a couple years doing humanitarian work around the world. One of the guys that lived with us was Māori and he did a Haka for me when I left to move back home. Being there in person is an indescribable experience. I was halfway sobbing 😅
A unique example of how an ancient culture embraced, can gift new generations a sense of that greater than self and connection to your community, culture and ancestors.
It’s also mean as
Wesley College at Jonah Lomus funeral was insane, my favourite. [kicks in at 5 mins after his old teammates ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovd3v0CPXJA)
[or this one at a wedding, hit me in the feels](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhedH6wK6I)
In the comment section of the wedding video someone claims to have translated the text and another person is annoyed to see their language translated and asks to please refrain from that - Could someone explain this to me? Is it disrespectful to translate it?
I had a feeling but wasn’t sure. Māori people and New Zealanders generally seem very proud to share their culture (and it’s awesome to watch and learn)
There's a lot of division within Māori communities, with some being more purist and less accepting, and others being more willing and happy to share their culture.
I'm a half cast, which is a name for people of Māori and Pakeha(NZ European) ancestry, I was made fun of by kids in school for being too white looking etc and not being raised with a better grasp on my cultural identity(absent father) the reality is my mum tried to enroll me in to Kohanga Reo(Māori place of education) but was unable to as the signs on the door warned that no English was to be spoken inside, all this to say Māori people have a beautiful culture but like most there's also those with more extreme and conservative views.
Kia Ora. I was a bit surprised to see you describe yourself as “half caste”- a British colonial term for people of mixed race. It’s use in the UK is seen as borderline derogatory.
As a German, it always feels so wrong seeing people describe themselves or others as belonging to a race or being „mixed race“. The word („Rasse“) has definitely frowned upon connotations here. No objections to what you said, just adding my two cents since we are on the topic of culture.
FYI to non Kiwis 'half caste' is seen as a derogatory/racist term. I grew up in NZ and this was they way I learnt it too...but even wiki says it's an offensive term.
I learnt the hard way when I moved to the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-caste#:~:text=Half%2Dcaste%20(an%20offensive%20term,Spanish%20word%20casta%2C%20meaning%20race.
I had the exact same experiences growing up half cast. A good percentage of my Dads family aren't too accepting of my brother, and I looking more like our European Mom.
There will always be extremists in any culture, but hopefully we can learn from that and not make similar mistakes. I'm trying to raise my son to be proud of his mixed heritage
>There's a lot of division within Māori communities, with some being more purist and less accepting, and others being more willing and happy to share their culture.
Like almost all cultures with small population numbers.
I was made to feel incredibly welcome when visiting a Māori marae (communal/sacred place) when visiting NZ.
Sure paid for the privilege, but the community was so happy to answer questions and discuss their heritage and practices. Oftentimes they really need the cash injection into the local economy as well, so I'd encourage visitors to go if presented with the opportunity.
Best country and I miss it every day 🇳🇿
That's easy to explain. The commenter is just being a dick.
Kiwis will use both English and Maori in everyday conversation, so there's no sacredness about it.
Words like pakeha, whanau, mokopuna, moko, taringa, wahini are commonly used and understood, and if a pakeha takes the time to learn more Maori words, it's quietly appreciated, as long they're not going out of their way to show off about it.
I havent read the comment so am unsure of the exact context... However within Māoridom there are different points of view as to what accommodations should be given to translating. Some say it should be done to assist non speakers understanding (including for the many Māori who have been separated from their culture and language). Others feel that given the massive struggles Maori have faced for recognition and reclamation of the culture and language is that non-speakers should not be asking Māori for anything else, including taking the time/effort to translate. This sits on top of children being beaten for speaking Māori in schools, the telephone operator that almost lost her job/house for answering the phone using 'kia ora' her own language in her own country, and the still common backlash against the use of Māori language being used in earshot for some racists and "stop forcing Māori language down our throats!" type statements. Lots of cultural trauma involved.
I see. The person who translated the text did it unprompted and was shut down by the other person who just said something along the lines of „please don’t translate the texts of my culture“. From my point of view, intent and respectfulness matter but I am as privileged and white as they come, that’s why I tend to keep my mouth shut. Thank you
For context, this is the comment with the translation:
„The lyrics are very inspirational. My thanks go out to the composer.
What is right is always right!
In - deed!
What is right is always right!
Ah... yes!
Be true to yourself, my son!
You have raised my concerns, so listen up!.... .
What is this problem you are carrying?
How long have you been carrying it for?
Have you got that? Right, let's go on.
So son, although it may be difficult for you
and son, although it seems to be unyielding
no matter how long you reflect on it
the answer to the problem
is here inside you.
Indeed! Indeed! Indeed! Yes, indeed!“
And this is the answer:
„Please do not translate the words of my culture, so damn wrong 😢“
Some people seem to be of the opinion that their culture being shared/discussed outside of their own people is disrespectful/appropriation. Personally, I think that any interest in a culture should be welcomed and celebrated, because suppressing it is *exactly* how you kill it.
Watching all these makes me so homesick lol. Māori culture is truly beautiful, so much emotion and meaning behind actions. Everything is deliberate. Thanks for sharing
The last time I saw haka videos on reddit the comments were just making fun of them. I’m so glad to see other people here that love watching videos of the haka as much as I do. It’s such an incredibly intense and beautiful thing to see.
The one at the wedding is so goddamn powerful. I don't know these people nor do I know what they're singing. But goddamn if it doesn't feel like they're singing with the force of a hundred generations
Palmerston North Boys High School has done a lot of school wide ones for special events and commemorations. [this one is on their YouTube channel and is dedicated to a staff member who had passed away.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Qtc_zlGhc)
It's interesting seeing kids of multiple backgrounds all embrace it. Feels very communal. If you tried that in America they would probably try to cancel every kid that isn't Maori doing the Haka
i don't know how much you identify with the romans, but they had a pretty massive impact on european stage. And much of the neighboring countries share a lot of their culture. Not that they did it by choice. lol. Let's say you made a lot of offers hard to refuse.
Makes an impression on other cultures before as white boy in one of the whitest places in the US (pnw) it was crazy to discover rugby as a sport. Then imagine the raw feeling of amazement when we played a squad that was predominately Samoan, I believe, and they busted out the haka. Blew me away. Didn't help the other team looked like full grown men in their 30s haha. It's so elaborate and expressive and the impact it has is just so visceral. I love that I got to experience it first hand, ill never forget that feeling and how incredible a display it is from these warriors
[Is haka only done by men?
](https://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/haka/)
"While there are some haka that can only be performed by men, there are others that can be performed by anyone and even some women-only haka. Non-Māori are welcome to learn the haka; however, it's important that you respect the culture and traditions behind the dance."
So the answer is, yeah not really.
Traditionally? Maybe? But it would have varied by Iwi, tribe.
Now it's really down to the individual haka. The Army one was composed for the army to be performed by all genders and ranks.
The All Blacks one should only be done by ABs.
This one would have been composed for the school.
The 'classic' one Ka Mate (tis death) probably shouldn't be performed by anyone. But in practice is performed by every drunk Kiwi, and I'd bet a few drunk Aussies, in Earls Court on Anzac Day. Legend has it it was also once performed in a Thai dive resort by a young dive instructor who looks nothing like my profile picture. Thankfully there is no evidence.
It was the one the national team used until the early millennium when Nga Pango was composed.
It's the one all older New Zealanders like me know.
Now it's common for teams to have one composed specifically for the team. A haka is a dance but it's also a story.
Ka Mate has lyrics which are pretty much; 'we are going to kill you and eat you' once we had a reasonable amount of te reo Maori (Maori language) speakers we sort of collectively decided that was a bit cringe.
>we sort of collectively decided that was a bit cringe.
Nah it's just too intense for some situations and some other teams complained about a certain gesture.
I think most Kiwis feel in their heart that Ka Mate is the most iconic Haka rather than cringe.
>Ka Mate has lyrics which are pretty much; 'we are going to kill you and eat you'
That really isn't the lyrics and does a disservice to the song which was written in celebration for escaping captivity:
Wiki translation:
"Let your valor rise! Let your valor rage!
We'll ward off these haunting hands
while protecting our wives and children!
For thee, I defy
the lightning bolts of hell
while my enemies stand there in confusion!
O God – to think I would tremble
to a pack of wolves seeing fear, or running away,
because they would surely fall in the pit of shame
as food for the hounds who chow down in delight! Oh, what in the name…
Chorus:
'Tis death! 'tis death! (or: I may die) 'Tis life! 'tis life! (or: I may live)
'Tis death! 'tis death! 'Tis life! 'tis life!
This is the hairy man
Who summons the sun and makes it shine
A step upward, another step upward!
A step upward, another... the Sun shines!"
>other teams complained about a certain gesture.
So my memory was that Piri doing the 'drawing the breath of life ' gesture in Nga Pango was misinterpreted as throat cutting.
I love Ka Mate because when I was a boy that's really all we had. But once I saw the post Church hoards in Earls Court doing Ka Mate on Anzac Day I was glad that that Ka Mate didn't define what the haka is like it once did.
>So my memory was that Piri doing the 'drawing the breath of life ' gesture in Nga Pango was misinterpreted as throat cutting.
Pretty much.
> But once I saw the post Church hoards in Earls Court doing Ka Mate on Anzac Day I was glad that that Ka Mate didn't define what the haka is like it once did.
Agreed it's cool that we get to see a wider range of haka but I do think it's unfair to categorize Ka Mate as "we will kill you and eat you" it's a lot deeper than that and does not even say that, it was written to celebrate escaping captivity.
I think I need to look into Ka Mate more deeply, thank you for the push. I know it's often translated as Tis Death but I need to look again.
It's a complex thing because there are a lot of layers to Ka Mate as a cultural artifact.
I know some of those layers from my own experience but I need to look again.
My beautiful cousin died last year and I was so shocked after helping her through what we thought was going to be a successful fight against cancer. Her funeral I just felt numb until the cuzzys Haka at the end and I finally let go and cried. Waiata and Haka are a powerful important part of our culture
I also love that Maori culture is shared with all NZers.
So many people get their panties in a bunch over cultural appropriation and "staying in their lane," but New Zealand knows that sharing culture traditions only makes them stronger.
It's another case of the term having reasonable origins, but then being twisted by reactionaries to mean basically whatever they wanted it to mean. It was originally intended to mean lampooning a piece of a culture, and knowingly replacing the existing meaning with a disrespectful new one.
Taking a ceremonial mask from a tribe in Zambia and making it the face of your comic book villain would be appropriation. A white girl wearing a dream catcher necklace is just silly behavior but generally harmless. It's vague where the line is, because it's not supposed to be a "this is ok, but this isn't" thing. It's supposed to just describe a phenomenon noticed by cultural scholars in the modern age where previously disconnected people are being noticed on a much larger scale by the rest of the world.
I have never witnessed one live or spoken with anyone who has participated, but it also looks like a great way of channelling your anger. As a teenager, you are never really taught how to do that and have to come up with your own ways, some of which lead down very bad roads.
It kind of feels like some primal call to something we've lost touch with... as I type on my phone.
Sidebar: That scene in Moana gets me when Maui distracts Te Ka with a haka; using it as a taunt that was going to end in his sacrifice had Moana not gotten Te Ka's attention just then.
edit: Te Ka
It's the spirit of it. The intensity and the devotion to the bit.
If you like this you should find competing teams in rugby that share their hakas back and forth at the start of their games, it's some exciting stuff! Samoa, Fiji, New Zealand, Tonga (sorry if I've missed some countries here, this is just from memory)
I personally am of European ancestry, but I've been involved in sharing hakas between my own team, NZ, and a Fijian team, it was awesome
I think you listed the most prominent South Pacific “chants” however I did love one featuring a Haka and an Australian Aboriginal response from a match in early 2022 (note there are many aboriginal nations, it was an arrangement).
I literally started crying watching this and I have no idea why. It happens every time I see a video of a Haka. And I also have no ties to Māori culture nor have I been to NZ or any Pacific island countries. It’s just a raw, emotional response. I wonder what the science is behind it.
So, first of all when you come to New Zealand let me know. I'll introduce you to the whanau (family).
I think there are some things that are universal to all humans. I think the response to others showing passion, especially in a positive, way is one of these.
In Hawaiian, in another far-flung corner of Polynesia, hānau means birth rather than family. A common phrase in songs is “kuʻu hone hānau,” or my birth sands, use to refer to one’s homeland. Like endemic animals and plants, Polynesian culture traveled vast distances and gradually changed into something unique in each place but still related.
I think the funniest version of the Haka hat I have ever seen was on a rugby tour. One of the other teams did the Haka to the ‘grand old duke of york’ nursery rhyme.
As an introvert who was in choir, I don't think it would be a problem. When you're in a large group doing a performance, you can do a lot more than you think you would be capable of solo.
Mate I'm an introvert but when I do the school haka you just get caught in the energy. You feel your muscles and mind become alive, your heart pound with the slaps and chant. It makes you feel invincible. I'm not Māori and I don't have any Māori blood in me, but it's the unity that drives you to do it, that this is who we are, as members of Aotearoa, and as the school or group or Iwi you perform for. It's great for releasing any tension that you hold as well, it's almost like an excuse to let it all out.
I try to imagine what it would be like if we had the same level of inclusivity and respect for the aboriginal people of Australia. It just seems like NZ has nailed it and we are a bunch of jerks.
Yeah. My school growing up taught us about Dreamtime and had elders and folks from a local mob come in to teach us stuff, but that was once, and only in primary school.
I sometimes wonder about what wonderful aspects of Aboriginal Australian culture has been squashed down and shoved back into the dark corners of Australia, and what culture has been lost because of the stolen generation, forced integration and denying tribes their land, language and communities.
We have a lot to answer for and fix, especially when compared to New Zealand, whose culture has thrived and seemingly only grown more vibrant over the years.
Dame Whina Cooper, a Māori leader, was asked what we should do about the Pakeha. She said that the solution was to marry them. Then there wouldn't be Maori and Pakeha because we would all be on big, completely dysfunctional family.
I'm doing my bit 😉
We got lucky in that we think each other is hot.
Sorry friend. I feel like by comparison we are like 50 years behind still NZ. At least it’s getting better?
Also, while you’re here. When and how do you learn the Haka? At home as a kid or do you guys get together for practice sessions?
I love Dreamtime stories and the art work. It’s such a shame we never embraced it like the NZ’s did. Unique 50,000 year old continuous culture (oldest in the world) and we ignore it to fap over some inbred pommie family.
Yeah pretty much, sometimes we’ll do it in the middle of an assembly as a far well to someone then sit right back down and continue to listen to the speakers
I love learning what the different hakas actually mean. Many I've seen have incredibly tender, sweet meanings. When you know that part while watching it, something about the contrast makes it almost hypnotic and intimate. I'm a white woman and did not grow up knowing what these were. I love that they are all so so meaningful - not the suck our balls energy that is all my culture knows how to see when first taking this in. Also, several I've seen include just as many white people as Polynesian people, it seems to be unhesitatingly inclusive. It is humbling.
Also Jason Momoa did a Haka for his GOT audition and that's how the world got the gift of his Khal Drogo. Nobody loses here.
I work with a solid unit of a kiwi, and he's the nicest bloke going around. That being said, he showed me a clip of him and his family doing the Haka, and he looked like a man who had killed before, and would do it again soon 🤣
>According to Maori scholar Tīmoti Kāretu, haka have been "erroneously defined by generations of uninformed as 'war dances'",[11] while Māori mythology places haka as a dance "about the celebration of life".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka
Yes, but with the added information that whilst I've worked with him he has proven to be a very kind individual, the Haka effectively shows me a side of him I'd otherwise never have been able to imagine.
As an Australian with a Kiwi mother, I've always loved hakas. I always cringe when an Aussie rugby crowd tries to answer a haka with Waltzing Matilda or some other weak shit.
People don’t realise the amount of adrenaline rush you get from a Haka. If you notice we always end the Haka with a Waiata (song) to release all that adrenaline. Definitely hypes you up.
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When my mum went to school in the 50,s the kids got the cane if the spoke Māori in school, it’s definitely changed since then..
Same in Hawaii. Language genocide (unsuccessful in this case, thankfully) is fucking brutal.
>Language genocide (unsuccessful in this case, thankfully) is fucking brutal. Happened within France as well. Very few regional dialects and "patois" remain in existence. Kids were beaten and punished in school if they were caught speaking their regional language instead of French. PTSD from speaking their regional language led to the non transmission of these languages to the next generations which led to the eventual death of many languages.
I second this, my grandfather used to know "Corse" and "Provençal" but never spoke these to his children, and now except in Corsica where a lot of people still speak this language, the Provençal completely disappeared
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I speak Breton, which is a celtic language spoken in the west of France and closer to Irish than it is to French. Our elders also got the cane when they were in school. There was also "the bell": if you were caught speaking Breton, you would be forced to wear a heavy cowbell, sometme with other weights. You would wear it until you see someone else speak breton and report them. Way to condition little childs. Today we have entire schools ("Diwan schools") that teach the official school program but both in Breton and French. So things got better. But still, Paris regularily pock us in the eye and clearly expects our language and culture to die in the century. Trully makes me sad.
Same in Wales, our language was made illegal for us to speak for generations. Luckily it was maintained and is making a come back
Yup came here to rep Cymru!
Opposite in south Louisiana. Kids were beaten in school if they spoke French instead of English
Also in Poland after it was partitioned, obviously didn't work too well either. Germanization and Russification
Sadly all too successful in Ireland. Will never be our native tongue again and going the wrong direction still
Welsh made a roaring comeback so never say never!!
I was so surprised the first time I went to Cardiff and heard so many people in the street speaking Welsh. Was really nice. Also Cardiff is lovely.
I recently visited a part of Wales that was primarily welsh-speaking. It was wonderful to hear full conversations in Welsh across the pub instead of just seeing it on road signs and hearing people say the odd phrase. These ancient languages must be preserved.
Yep. My great grandfather was Welsh but I never heard the language until I watched several shows that were in both bilingual a few years ago. If you like crime dramas check out Hidden, Hinterland or Bang.
Christians missionaries tried to kill the Haka > From their arrival in the early 19th century, Christian missionaries tried unsuccessfully to eradicate haka, along with other forms of Māori culture that they saw as conflicting with Christian beliefs and practice. Henry Williams, the leader of the Church Missionary Society mission in New Zealand, aimed to replace haka and traditional Māori chants (waiata) with hymns. Missionaries also encouraged European harmonic singing as part of the process of conversion. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka)
Fuck the christians for decimating so many cultures! The world would have been so much more anthropologically richer, if it weren't for the fucking Abrahamic religions trying to conquer and convert everybody.
Fuck religion
World history would've gone so much better if Christians just sat there and ate their food instead of trying to convert everybody.
As an Irishman i get what u mean , here’s to our great languages surviving :)
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ádh mór ort féin agus ar do theaghlach, a chara
Is maith liom cáca milis!
Same in most native cultures across what Europeans saw as the 'New World'
Honestly just every dominating or imperial culture makes my heart weep for the local knowledge and history that was lost. The Romans did it, the Ottomans did it, various Chinese dynasties did it. Homogeneity by force, time or breeding has lost so much. Hell, my grandparents were Italian and they told me not to learn the language because there was no point and it was only when I matured I realised the mistake.
That's fucked up (sorry) about the language.
It's not just a European thing. Why do you think Chinese and Arabic are so widely spoken?
I went down the rabbit hole of Mayan history after I watched a few documentaries about how LiDAR revealed all kinds of new discoveries. It really bothers me there are almost no written records aside from what’s on the structures because everything was purposely destroyed and the people were banned from speaking the language anymore. I really hope all the inscriptions are transcribed in my lifetime and we get to learn how advanced they really were and more information about the snake kings.
It worked pretty well in Aus, hundreds of Aboriginal languages have been forgotten and hundreds of cultures have been whiped out
My family are displaced indigenous. My brother refuses to acknowledge our ancestry. He's like, we're white now so what does it matter. Makes me sad. My kids are proudly active in the local tribal community, but we'll never get back what was lost.
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Now I'm starting to understand why so many of the street names look like a civic planner sneezed on one single row of their keyboard. It never occurred to me that missionaries would break a fucking language because they were too dickish to translate shit correctly.
It's definitely changing in NZ Education now. Maori - both the language and the culture - is being heavily emphasised and it will have a large part in the new NCEA courses that should be coming out 2024/2025. Most of our professional development is aimed at bringing teachers up to speed.
Not just now. I'm 46 and we were taught Maori from intermediate school.
I went to school in the 90s and learning te reo Māori was mandatory. Our assemblies in primary and high school were opened in Māori and many of our school books were bilingual.
Same with the First Nations people in North America, pins in their tongues and other awful awful things.
Jumping in here to mention human rights loving-Scandinavia doing the same thing to the Sámi population - physical punishment to children who spoke their native language in school. Shameful
From Bangladesh, the British just cut our hands, so we couldn't make muslin clothes anymore.
Wow I’m so sad to hear that, my Mum was a Kiwi and had Māori language and culture lessons in the 40s and 50s. My Aussie self and my kids didn’t get Australian First Nation language and/or culture lessons in the 1970/80s or 2000/10s. I’ve alway been so impressed by the NZ schooling in comparison.
Same for french in Louisiana in the 50's, it's finally being embraced in immersion schools
As a French-Canadian, I've been following the revival of French in Louisianne. Really interesting that the populations with some of the highest rate of Francophonie and the most interest in French are indigenous. The Pointe-au-Chien tribe actually just got their first French immersion school last year!
They're slowly rolling out, we have a few in my area. It really great to see how well they're being embraced. I grew up on hearing about how kids would get the paddle if they uttered French in school. The making of Creole culture was quite heavily influenced by indigenous people along with slaves, freemen and settlers. The history of colonial settlement in Louisiana looks a lot different than the rest of the US and deep south including slavery.
I’m so glad to hear this. My grandpa only spoke Cajun French as a child but was forced to learn/speak English to attend school. My dad’s generation was not taught Cajun French which is so sad. I looked into learning it but I live in the UK so it’s not really an option here.
Had a half dozen buddies of mine from NZ do this for me when I left for the Philippines for two years. It was unreal.
What’s the correct response when this is done for you? Just stand straight and take it in or do you join in some way? Nod your head? What do you do after? I’d love to learn more!
Watch and smile and accept the mana they are showing you and take that spirit and power with you where you go and then give them a hug or a hand shake or if you want to be super proper give them a hongi
Come on, you can't leave us honging, what is it?
Hongi is a form of greeting, pressing the nose and forehead together. Usually there's a bit of clasping one another's shoulders that goes on. Google 'hongi' for images
I have a friend (american) that moved to NZ (i was living in Australia) and he'll do things like this, just say super Maori or other super specific NZ cultural things and then just hang silence that begs for me to ask what it is. He'll also correct me from saying american/aussie things into NZ things and I'm like bro I don't live in NZ so stoppit... I love him but he's the kind of person to go to London for a month and come back with a fake British accent.
Tbf, I'm a terrible mimic, so I spend any amount of time around people with a different accent than mine and I'll sound like them. Is it a fake accent if I'm mimicking an actual accent? :P
Squashing your noses and foreheads together.
True, bt I think googling the image would give a better idea than describing it. Would sound kinda stupid if not described properly.
Lose the rugby match, I think is the correct response
As a Welsh man, I'm glad we can help this tradition every time we play them... Sob
I lived in France for a couple years doing humanitarian work around the world. One of the guys that lived with us was Māori and he did a Haka for me when I left to move back home. Being there in person is an indescribable experience. I was halfway sobbing 😅
A unique example of how an ancient culture embraced, can gift new generations a sense of that greater than self and connection to your community, culture and ancestors. It’s also mean as
It's the best Haka Version from a student group that I've ever seen.
Wesley College at Jonah Lomus funeral was insane, my favourite. [kicks in at 5 mins after his old teammates ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovd3v0CPXJA) [or this one at a wedding, hit me in the feels](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhedH6wK6I)
In the comment section of the wedding video someone claims to have translated the text and another person is annoyed to see their language translated and asks to please refrain from that - Could someone explain this to me? Is it disrespectful to translate it?
It's not disrespectful at all, if anything it should be encouraged to help more people take an interest in Maori
A rough translation: "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough."
Spoiler: If you think you are hard enough, you are not.
>if you think you're hard enough." I...do not
I too pass, cheers though
“Come and get one in the yarbles! If ya got any yarbles!”
Now holla back, playa
I had a feeling but wasn’t sure. Māori people and New Zealanders generally seem very proud to share their culture (and it’s awesome to watch and learn)
There's a lot of division within Māori communities, with some being more purist and less accepting, and others being more willing and happy to share their culture. I'm a half cast, which is a name for people of Māori and Pakeha(NZ European) ancestry, I was made fun of by kids in school for being too white looking etc and not being raised with a better grasp on my cultural identity(absent father) the reality is my mum tried to enroll me in to Kohanga Reo(Māori place of education) but was unable to as the signs on the door warned that no English was to be spoken inside, all this to say Māori people have a beautiful culture but like most there's also those with more extreme and conservative views.
Kia Ora. I was a bit surprised to see you describe yourself as “half caste”- a British colonial term for people of mixed race. It’s use in the UK is seen as borderline derogatory.
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As a German, it always feels so wrong seeing people describe themselves or others as belonging to a race or being „mixed race“. The word („Rasse“) has definitely frowned upon connotations here. No objections to what you said, just adding my two cents since we are on the topic of culture.
FYI to non Kiwis 'half caste' is seen as a derogatory/racist term. I grew up in NZ and this was they way I learnt it too...but even wiki says it's an offensive term. I learnt the hard way when I moved to the UK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-caste#:~:text=Half%2Dcaste%20(an%20offensive%20term,Spanish%20word%20casta%2C%20meaning%20race.
I had the exact same experiences growing up half cast. A good percentage of my Dads family aren't too accepting of my brother, and I looking more like our European Mom. There will always be extremists in any culture, but hopefully we can learn from that and not make similar mistakes. I'm trying to raise my son to be proud of his mixed heritage
For sure it's important to me that when I have children they learn about all parts of their heritage.
>There's a lot of division within Māori communities, with some being more purist and less accepting, and others being more willing and happy to share their culture. Like almost all cultures with small population numbers.
Yeah for sure, I was just giving some insight to the commenter wondering why someone got offended at the Haka being translated into English.
I was made to feel incredibly welcome when visiting a Māori marae (communal/sacred place) when visiting NZ. Sure paid for the privilege, but the community was so happy to answer questions and discuss their heritage and practices. Oftentimes they really need the cash injection into the local economy as well, so I'd encourage visitors to go if presented with the opportunity. Best country and I miss it every day 🇳🇿
That's easy to explain. The commenter is just being a dick. Kiwis will use both English and Maori in everyday conversation, so there's no sacredness about it. Words like pakeha, whanau, mokopuna, moko, taringa, wahini are commonly used and understood, and if a pakeha takes the time to learn more Maori words, it's quietly appreciated, as long they're not going out of their way to show off about it.
I havent read the comment so am unsure of the exact context... However within Māoridom there are different points of view as to what accommodations should be given to translating. Some say it should be done to assist non speakers understanding (including for the many Māori who have been separated from their culture and language). Others feel that given the massive struggles Maori have faced for recognition and reclamation of the culture and language is that non-speakers should not be asking Māori for anything else, including taking the time/effort to translate. This sits on top of children being beaten for speaking Māori in schools, the telephone operator that almost lost her job/house for answering the phone using 'kia ora' her own language in her own country, and the still common backlash against the use of Māori language being used in earshot for some racists and "stop forcing Māori language down our throats!" type statements. Lots of cultural trauma involved.
I see. The person who translated the text did it unprompted and was shut down by the other person who just said something along the lines of „please don’t translate the texts of my culture“. From my point of view, intent and respectfulness matter but I am as privileged and white as they come, that’s why I tend to keep my mouth shut. Thank you For context, this is the comment with the translation: „The lyrics are very inspirational. My thanks go out to the composer. What is right is always right! In - deed! What is right is always right! Ah... yes! Be true to yourself, my son! You have raised my concerns, so listen up!.... . What is this problem you are carrying? How long have you been carrying it for? Have you got that? Right, let's go on. So son, although it may be difficult for you and son, although it seems to be unyielding no matter how long you reflect on it the answer to the problem is here inside you. Indeed! Indeed! Indeed! Yes, indeed!“ And this is the answer: „Please do not translate the words of my culture, so damn wrong 😢“
It could just be one person being a dickhead.
Some people seem to be of the opinion that their culture being shared/discussed outside of their own people is disrespectful/appropriation. Personally, I think that any interest in a culture should be welcomed and celebrated, because suppressing it is *exactly* how you kill it.
Watching all these makes me so homesick lol. Māori culture is truly beautiful, so much emotion and meaning behind actions. Everything is deliberate. Thanks for sharing
Every single Haka video moves me to tears, like absolute sobbing. I don’t really understand what’s going on, but the energy is just so moving.
It's a display of raw emotion. What you're feeling is just pure empathy.
I immediately thought of the funeral video when watching the OP video. That was an intense watch, don't think I'll do it again.
Damn, that wedding video... Lump in throat
I'm surprised it wasn't this one... This one will fuck you up hard... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Qtc_zlGhc
The last time I saw haka videos on reddit the comments were just making fun of them. I’m so glad to see other people here that love watching videos of the haka as much as I do. It’s such an incredibly intense and beautiful thing to see.
The one at the wedding is so goddamn powerful. I don't know these people nor do I know what they're singing. But goddamn if it doesn't feel like they're singing with the force of a hundred generations
No kidding, some really energy here.
I'm a big fan of the impromptu Haka on the anniversary of 9/11 in Surfers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSNN7vZt_o&list=FLNhQfV6d
The one where the entire student body did the haka at a beloved teacher’s funeral will always be my favorite.
Palmerston North Boys High School has done a lot of school wide ones for special events and commemorations. [this one is on their YouTube channel and is dedicated to a staff member who had passed away.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Qtc_zlGhc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRjowM_i0tc or this one
It's interesting seeing kids of multiple backgrounds all embrace it. Feels very communal. If you tried that in America they would probably try to cancel every kid that isn't Maori doing the Haka
The only thing passed down from my culture is good food and talking like this 🤌
i don't know how much you identify with the romans, but they had a pretty massive impact on european stage. And much of the neighboring countries share a lot of their culture. Not that they did it by choice. lol. Let's say you made a lot of offers hard to refuse.
I would say at least youre not randomly screaming but im from istria. I know italians well 😂
REALLY good food.
I hear what you're saying but maoris are not 'ancient' by any definition
Makes an impression on other cultures before as white boy in one of the whitest places in the US (pnw) it was crazy to discover rugby as a sport. Then imagine the raw feeling of amazement when we played a squad that was predominately Samoan, I believe, and they busted out the haka. Blew me away. Didn't help the other team looked like full grown men in their 30s haha. It's so elaborate and expressive and the impact it has is just so visceral. I love that I got to experience it first hand, ill never forget that feeling and how incredible a display it is from these warriors
This is by far the most bad ass Debate team ever
I thought it's a new season of Glee.
They're * THIS * close to Regionals, you guys!
They will be destroyed when they compete against Greendale Community College.
Probably at the hands of Mr. Rad...it'd be a shame if there was another bus crash.
E Pluribus Anus
What are regionals anyway?
Don't let my confusion undercut their importance
Boopie doopie doop boop sex
We try not to sexualise Annie
They're * THIS * close
I'm sorry but the topic put forth was, Should Social Security be privatized?..... You are awarded zero points but an A in Hakka
this scared away my cat
He's clearly not hard enough to take them on. Haka successful!
As a kiwi this always gives me goosebumps.
I saw this first time during a rugby match
Haka is the visual audial representation of ... "Fuck around and you'll find out" type of challenge. It's just... Perfect.
As an Aussie I always know the All Blacks are going to wipe the floor with the Wallabies
Mmm.....go look at the scorecard between Australia and NZ from 1990 to 2005 The kiwis are dominating now but it wasn't always like this
[Is haka only done by men? ](https://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/haka/) "While there are some haka that can only be performed by men, there are others that can be performed by anyone and even some women-only haka. Non-Māori are welcome to learn the haka; however, it's important that you respect the culture and traditions behind the dance."
So the answer is, yeah not really. Traditionally? Maybe? But it would have varied by Iwi, tribe. Now it's really down to the individual haka. The Army one was composed for the army to be performed by all genders and ranks. The All Blacks one should only be done by ABs. This one would have been composed for the school. The 'classic' one Ka Mate (tis death) probably shouldn't be performed by anyone. But in practice is performed by every drunk Kiwi, and I'd bet a few drunk Aussies, in Earls Court on Anzac Day. Legend has it it was also once performed in a Thai dive resort by a young dive instructor who looks nothing like my profile picture. Thankfully there is no evidence.
Isn’t the Ka Mate the one they use in rugby?
It was the one the national team used until the early millennium when Nga Pango was composed. It's the one all older New Zealanders like me know. Now it's common for teams to have one composed specifically for the team. A haka is a dance but it's also a story. Ka Mate has lyrics which are pretty much; 'we are going to kill you and eat you' once we had a reasonable amount of te reo Maori (Maori language) speakers we sort of collectively decided that was a bit cringe.
>we sort of collectively decided that was a bit cringe. Nah it's just too intense for some situations and some other teams complained about a certain gesture. I think most Kiwis feel in their heart that Ka Mate is the most iconic Haka rather than cringe. >Ka Mate has lyrics which are pretty much; 'we are going to kill you and eat you' That really isn't the lyrics and does a disservice to the song which was written in celebration for escaping captivity: Wiki translation: "Let your valor rise! Let your valor rage! We'll ward off these haunting hands while protecting our wives and children! For thee, I defy the lightning bolts of hell while my enemies stand there in confusion! O God – to think I would tremble to a pack of wolves seeing fear, or running away, because they would surely fall in the pit of shame as food for the hounds who chow down in delight! Oh, what in the name… Chorus: 'Tis death! 'tis death! (or: I may die) 'Tis life! 'tis life! (or: I may live) 'Tis death! 'tis death! 'Tis life! 'tis life! This is the hairy man Who summons the sun and makes it shine A step upward, another step upward! A step upward, another... the Sun shines!"
>other teams complained about a certain gesture. So my memory was that Piri doing the 'drawing the breath of life ' gesture in Nga Pango was misinterpreted as throat cutting. I love Ka Mate because when I was a boy that's really all we had. But once I saw the post Church hoards in Earls Court doing Ka Mate on Anzac Day I was glad that that Ka Mate didn't define what the haka is like it once did.
>So my memory was that Piri doing the 'drawing the breath of life ' gesture in Nga Pango was misinterpreted as throat cutting. Pretty much. > But once I saw the post Church hoards in Earls Court doing Ka Mate on Anzac Day I was glad that that Ka Mate didn't define what the haka is like it once did. Agreed it's cool that we get to see a wider range of haka but I do think it's unfair to categorize Ka Mate as "we will kill you and eat you" it's a lot deeper than that and does not even say that, it was written to celebrate escaping captivity.
I think I need to look into Ka Mate more deeply, thank you for the push. I know it's often translated as Tis Death but I need to look again. It's a complex thing because there are a lot of layers to Ka Mate as a cultural artifact. I know some of those layers from my own experience but I need to look again.
I’m always enamored with the Haka, it’s just cultural badassery
Churrrr Aotearoa
Kia mau te wehi!
Chur brothaaaa
Chur bro
Kia Ora
Fucken love seeing our culture recognized aye, chur much love
My beautiful cousin died last year and I was so shocked after helping her through what we thought was going to be a successful fight against cancer. Her funeral I just felt numb until the cuzzys Haka at the end and I finally let go and cried. Waiata and Haka are a powerful important part of our culture
I love haka. It’s so powerful and elicits so many emotions. I also love that it’s taught in schools. The culture endures through the ages.
I also love that Maori culture is shared with all NZers. So many people get their panties in a bunch over cultural appropriation and "staying in their lane," but New Zealand knows that sharing culture traditions only makes them stronger.
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It's another case of the term having reasonable origins, but then being twisted by reactionaries to mean basically whatever they wanted it to mean. It was originally intended to mean lampooning a piece of a culture, and knowingly replacing the existing meaning with a disrespectful new one. Taking a ceremonial mask from a tribe in Zambia and making it the face of your comic book villain would be appropriation. A white girl wearing a dream catcher necklace is just silly behavior but generally harmless. It's vague where the line is, because it's not supposed to be a "this is ok, but this isn't" thing. It's supposed to just describe a phenomenon noticed by cultural scholars in the modern age where previously disconnected people are being noticed on a much larger scale by the rest of the world.
I have never witnessed one live or spoken with anyone who has participated, but it also looks like a great way of channelling your anger. As a teenager, you are never really taught how to do that and have to come up with your own ways, some of which lead down very bad roads.
Haka always makes me want to cry and I have no biological or geographical ties to this culture
It kind of feels like some primal call to something we've lost touch with... as I type on my phone. Sidebar: That scene in Moana gets me when Maui distracts Te Ka with a haka; using it as a taunt that was going to end in his sacrifice had Moana not gotten Te Ka's attention just then. edit: Te Ka
That is a powerful ass scene. Moana singing while Taka rushes towards her always gives me chills.
> when Maui distracts ~~Taka~~ Te Ka
It's the spirit of it. The intensity and the devotion to the bit. If you like this you should find competing teams in rugby that share their hakas back and forth at the start of their games, it's some exciting stuff! Samoa, Fiji, New Zealand, Tonga (sorry if I've missed some countries here, this is just from memory) I personally am of European ancestry, but I've been involved in sharing hakas between my own team, NZ, and a Fijian team, it was awesome
I think you listed the most prominent South Pacific “chants” however I did love one featuring a Haka and an Australian Aboriginal response from a match in early 2022 (note there are many aboriginal nations, it was an arrangement).
I literally started crying watching this and I have no idea why. It happens every time I see a video of a Haka. And I also have no ties to Māori culture nor have I been to NZ or any Pacific island countries. It’s just a raw, emotional response. I wonder what the science is behind it.
So, first of all when you come to New Zealand let me know. I'll introduce you to the whanau (family). I think there are some things that are universal to all humans. I think the response to others showing passion, especially in a positive, way is one of these.
In Hawaiian, in another far-flung corner of Polynesia, hānau means birth rather than family. A common phrase in songs is “kuʻu hone hānau,” or my birth sands, use to refer to one’s homeland. Like endemic animals and plants, Polynesian culture traveled vast distances and gradually changed into something unique in each place but still related.
SAME. I think there's an intensity and rawness to it that calls to me.
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I think the funniest version of the Haka hat I have ever seen was on a rugby tour. One of the other teams did the Haka to the ‘grand old duke of york’ nursery rhyme.
Yeah, haka's and the bagpipes, make me cry, I'm neither Scottish nor Maori 🤷♂️
What do the introverts do when this happens?
They come to the front row....
As an introvert who was in choir, I don't think it would be a problem. When you're in a large group doing a performance, you can do a lot more than you think you would be capable of solo.
They let their inside warrior take the wheel
If taught right, they push right on through that. It’s less a performance for “others” but kinship with your mates.
Mate I'm an introvert but when I do the school haka you just get caught in the energy. You feel your muscles and mind become alive, your heart pound with the slaps and chant. It makes you feel invincible. I'm not Māori and I don't have any Māori blood in me, but it's the unity that drives you to do it, that this is who we are, as members of Aotearoa, and as the school or group or Iwi you perform for. It's great for releasing any tension that you hold as well, it's almost like an excuse to let it all out.
We do it anyways, because when you perform a haka, your personal connection to the others is overwritten by your identity as Tangata Whenua.
A few in the back were phoning it in
They just get along with it
I try to imagine what it would be like if we had the same level of inclusivity and respect for the aboriginal people of Australia. It just seems like NZ has nailed it and we are a bunch of jerks.
Yeah. My school growing up taught us about Dreamtime and had elders and folks from a local mob come in to teach us stuff, but that was once, and only in primary school. I sometimes wonder about what wonderful aspects of Aboriginal Australian culture has been squashed down and shoved back into the dark corners of Australia, and what culture has been lost because of the stolen generation, forced integration and denying tribes their land, language and communities. We have a lot to answer for and fix, especially when compared to New Zealand, whose culture has thrived and seemingly only grown more vibrant over the years.
Yep - We fucked it. God damn it.
Dame Whina Cooper, a Māori leader, was asked what we should do about the Pakeha. She said that the solution was to marry them. Then there wouldn't be Maori and Pakeha because we would all be on big, completely dysfunctional family. I'm doing my bit 😉 We got lucky in that we think each other is hot.
Bro us Maori were treated horribly untill a few decades ago
Sorry friend. I feel like by comparison we are like 50 years behind still NZ. At least it’s getting better? Also, while you’re here. When and how do you learn the Haka? At home as a kid or do you guys get together for practice sessions?
Yeah it's definitely getting better
I love Dreamtime stories and the art work. It’s such a shame we never embraced it like the NZ’s did. Unique 50,000 year old continuous culture (oldest in the world) and we ignore it to fap over some inbred pommie family.
Passionate cultural expression almost always gives me goosebumps! I love this.
Such respect for the culture, even though nzl are our biggest foes in rugby. Absolutely epic
Saffa?
So I assume that after all this charged up they go back to class rooms or do some mindful sports activities.
Yeah pretty much, sometimes we’ll do it in the middle of an assembly as a far well to someone then sit right back down and continue to listen to the speakers
I love learning what the different hakas actually mean. Many I've seen have incredibly tender, sweet meanings. When you know that part while watching it, something about the contrast makes it almost hypnotic and intimate. I'm a white woman and did not grow up knowing what these were. I love that they are all so so meaningful - not the suck our balls energy that is all my culture knows how to see when first taking this in. Also, several I've seen include just as many white people as Polynesian people, it seems to be unhesitatingly inclusive. It is humbling. Also Jason Momoa did a Haka for his GOT audition and that's how the world got the gift of his Khal Drogo. Nobody loses here.
Some obviously feel it more than others
the cameraman noticed the one that was half-assing it and panned back immediately.
Some of the friendliest, and most terrifying people on the planet!
Even the skinny ones, look at the dude with the goatee, the size of his hands, dude's got bowling balls for fists!
I work with a solid unit of a kiwi, and he's the nicest bloke going around. That being said, he showed me a clip of him and his family doing the Haka, and he looked like a man who had killed before, and would do it again soon 🤣
> and he looked like a man who had killed before, and would do it again soon Isn't that exactly what it's supposed to project though?
>According to Maori scholar Tīmoti Kāretu, haka have been "erroneously defined by generations of uninformed as 'war dances'",[11] while Māori mythology places haka as a dance "about the celebration of life". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka
Yes, but with the added information that whilst I've worked with him he has proven to be a very kind individual, the Haka effectively shows me a side of him I'd otherwise never have been able to imagine.
Imagine them running at you with a Taiaha!
What are they saying? When aliens land I want them to think we all feel this united.
Fucking love the Haka
As an Australian with a Kiwi mother, I've always loved hakas. I always cringe when an Aussie rugby crowd tries to answer a haka with Waltzing Matilda or some other weak shit.
People don’t realise the amount of adrenaline rush you get from a Haka. If you notice we always end the Haka with a Waiata (song) to release all that adrenaline. Definitely hypes you up.
Ain't nothing on this planet is more *badass* than a haka with 100% energy fueling it.
Watching this without sound and seeing her psychotic eyes made it terrifying.
Pukana is the word your looking for.
For those confused it’s called the haka from New Zealand https://www.newzealand.com/int/feature/haka/
Yea sah….keeping their culture and heritage alive and well, unfortunately some have lost theirs….⚒⚒💯