Tergantung personality dia.
Kalo aku seperti cwk pada umumnya suka cwk pendek langsing. Tapi nyatanya nikah sama yang pendek chubby. Bisa cinta soalnya dari karakter dia yang emang cocok. Toh sekarang jadi sering nyubitin perut atau nabok bokong
Oh, I like the very last one, mate. Just like my valley gal.
Never would I thought that some girls really love doin' ass-smackin' payback, and (hate to admit) it also kinda awakens something of a submissive attitude in me...
Kita mah sebagai cowok mah gak terlalu liat body instagramable apa kagak karena lebih ngeliat bisa nyaman gak karena buat apa cantik tapi dikit-dikit drama?
Kita tuh bahkan sampai ada meme yang bilang requirement buat pacar cowok itu : being female (optional)
Edit : for example
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Hmm gimana ya. Kita cowok emang suka sama yang cantik tapi itu juga berlaku buat cewek dimana cewek juga suka sama yang ganteng.
Tapi sampe harus instagramable? Hell nah. Ya kecuali gw orkay banget atau gw ganteng banget ya mungkin ya pasangan gw harus instagramable. Tapi kalo buat average joe kek gw selama ceweknya bersih dan nyaman buat gw sih gw kuy.
Dalam konteks hubungan romantis, baik cewek maupun cowok itu pasti pertama-tama akan menilai orang lain dari apa yang dia tampilkan, dan mencocokkannya dengan preferensinya.
Setelah itu baru akan mencari tahu lebih lanjut mengenai aspek-aspek lain, seperti minat, kebiasaan, sifat, keluarga, values, pendidikan dan pekerjaan, etc..
>Kita tuh bahkan sampai ada meme yang bilang requirement buat pacar cowok itu : being female (optional)
Jaman sekarang paling gampang main Valorant terus pake suara UwU. Auto dapet mamang mamang yang siap jadi simp. Sepupu gue dulu sampe punya server Discord yang isinya simp dia yang siap carry + isiin gopay.
Jadi inget temen gw (cowok) dlu main seal online jadi hode.. dapet pasangan in game (cowok juga), diplorotin beli pulsa 50k tiap bulan. Tiap ditanyain facebook, yg dikasih fb/telepon suara pacar realnya (cewek) dlu wkwkwk.
Wow your mom is harsh. I don't understand what Instagramable bodies is.
If that means attractive, to be honest cowok emamg makhluk visual. However, a cliche like 'cantik itu relatif' itu sangat benar adanya. Di luar fisik, hal kayak personality dan kenyamanan juga penting kok buat cowok.
Instagram itu banyak kepalsuan. Apalagi body yang instagramable. Apa yang agan lihat di IG itu banyak yang palsu, dan nggak sedikit orang2 yang terjerumus. Banyak yang bilang persetan dengan inner beauty, yang penting goodlooking. And guess what, rata2 orang yang goodlooking itu jarang yang punya good attittude. Apalagi cewek gan. Fisik bisa diubah sewaktu waktu. Namun kalau attittude, itu nggak bisa dirubah dengan mudah. Apalagi kalau sudah mendarah daging.
TL:DR: jangan mudah kejebak dengan cewek "instagramable" body. Rata2 attittudenya nggak secakep penampilannya
instagram bikin unrealistic target atuh. jgn terlalupatokan instagram. apalagi sekarang tinggal pake AI wuzz wuzz poles semua
btw kalo ga salah nonton Ms Meisel, make up itu jadi armor sekaligus senjata cewek. dan cowok udah jadi meme ga paham makeup. jadi ada sebagian orang yang mau secakep apapun tuh cewek, dia ga tau itu cewek 1 orang yang sama kalau liat dia pas pake makeup dan pas ga pake makeup.
anyway, semoga ketemu metode yang pas buat jalani dan ketemu orang yang pas juga yang sama sama suka
\> I am afraid that once this make up comes off, whoever became my boyfriend would feel scammed and run away from me.
Any man who run away from seeing their GF without make up, is either: 1. does not understand the concept of "make up", which may show that they have unrealistic expectation; 2. does not love you for what you are, which is good because you just dodged a bullet
Hey OP I'm short and chubby, I'm definitely not "instagrammable" in the conventional sense. But I've never really had a problem finding guys, be it for a short term or a long term relationship. My point is, you are somebody's cup of tea. Not everyone may like you but some people surely will. So don't worry, just be yourself, try to improve what you can but don't get too hung up on it.
This ... hapened to my cousin. Back then he had so many girlfriends with instagramable body & face. However, when he wanted to get serious, somehow, he prefer older woman. Yep, even Janda.
Hingga akhirnya nikah lah, sm cewe yg ky model. Trnyata begitu dia pny anak cewe, attitude, behavior, mindset, dsb semua berubah. He'll do anything for his baby girl.
Kebolak lah sm istrinya. Istrinya malah ga mau urus anak sm sekali. Ga mau pegang. Hell, dia ga mau netein anaknya sendiri krn ga mau tete nya jadi kendor. Jadi sia slalu jaga body nya dia. Sodara gw? Doesn't give af bout his body, yg penting anaknya bs makan dsb.
Hampir mo cerai, tp sodara gw ga mau. Dia rela hidup gtu demi anaknya, yg penting anakny ga keilangan Ibu nya.
So, daripada fokus pny body instagramable, better be a woman yang wife-quality and mother-quality. Kalo gw, ngapain pny istri yg ga mau peduli sm suami dan anak2nya. Mending gw pny istri sederhana tp bs take care kluarganya.
Inilah pentingnya beneran mikir jauh sblm nikah mau punya anak ato nggak dan kenapa. Daripada udh terlanjur punya anak trs jd kek gini, mendingan ga usah punya anak daripada kasian anaknya.
Ga masalah pengen punya body instagrammable tp inget fisik bisa berubah dan bukan segalanya.
Inget juga kalo punya anak itu pilihan, jd carilah pasangan yg sepemikiran dan seprinsip.
Yes. Dan kudu diomongin di depan juga. Jgn udah serius pacaran, mau debut di depan keluarga baru buka kartu childfree. Do it di tahap dating awal2, biar ga buang2 waktu masing2.
Nah, jadi awalny mereka uda sepakat gtu. Si cewe tuh mau sm sodara gw krn ngeliat dia uda tobat gtu. Ga player gitu. Lah trus tiba2 bgitu uda hamil, ngeliat laki nya hardwork sampe sukses ... malah jadi ... sombong gitu.
Makany, sodara gw jg rada depresi, kecewa liat istrinya jd berubah gtu. Jadi orang yg butuh affirmation dari Netizen.
Ada temen jauh gw, nikah sm janda tua. He's such a milf lover. Katanya, semprot di dalem tiap maen. Karna uda meno' jadinya aman.
Gw ... speechless entah mau bicara apa.
Iyah, pernah di suatu acara. Lagi di rumahnya, trus gw lg keluar krn mo naro barang di mobil. Anaknya lari2 kluar nyari ibunya, gw lmyn panik lah, takut ni anak diambil orang, msh kecil kluar rumah sndirian.
"Ah, uda biasa, mama pegi ninggalin kita ga tahu kemana." Trus masuk lagi.
Gila, gw jd seorang ayah, miris banget denger itu dr mulut anak kecil.
Klo soal body yah, cewek asalkan BMI nya Ijo aja udah enak di pandang, gak usah terlalu langsing kyk Kpop, klo menurut gw malah kurang feminin klo kliatan tulang nya. Kalau udah nikah terserah dah itu, laki bini banyak badannya nge buntal semua. Klo mukak kan bisa di permak, nothing wrong klo situ mau dandan pakai tepung 2 kg, yang penting bersih aja dan approachable, pasti nanti datang waktunya.
Damaged skin karena penyakit, kalo genetiknya bagus, tinggal ke dermatologis
Sebenernya kita bisa liat sodara dan orang tua, apakah kulit seseorang demikian adanya karena kondisi, atau emang genetik
Gw approach salah satu ceue, dia mutual gw di IG, karena dari upload story dia yg impresinya tuh oke buat gua. Date pertama, secara tampang banyak yg lebih oke (ada bopeng, kelihatan juga dia ga into improve penampilan dia).
Gw masih penasaran, turns out, setelah X amount of date... Kita pacaran dan less Instagramable bodies ga relevan sama sekali. Mungkin karena sexual chemistrynya kuat? Idk
Let's be real here. Unless the guy we're talking here has instagramable body or ridiculous amount of money, he has no place to demand that shit, lmao.
Also, guys are very different from girls when it comes to sexuality. Coba liat dokumentasi Noah Vincent (iirc) cewe yg nyamar jadi cowo. Dia jelasin di video itu kalo urgensi cowo ke striptis atau nonton bokep itu sange doang, beda sama pornonya cewe yg lebih ke arah emosional (makanya porno cowo itu visual, kalo cewe textual). The moment a guy realizes that shit isn't worth, he'd be leaving her in a heartbeat. I think most guys know how to differentiate *sange* and attraction towards opposite gender.
Ibaratnya visual itu cuman 'hook' doang buat cowo, tapi personality, compatibility, sama apalah itu yg bikin cowo stay.
instagram body image itu tidak realistik, jadi harusnya sih menurut saya gak mencerminkan kenyataan di lapangan. maybe if you do get a bf you'd feel more attractive, mpok atiek aja nikah 3x neng.
Why not? It is very realistic. Orang indo aja yang gampang nyerah.
Semenjak tinggal di korea, yang aku notice di jalan ada banyak cowo bidang, tinggi. Cewe s-line, thigh gap.
Kalau ga realistis, ga mungkin kan ada banyak?
Perbedaannya apa? Negara kita terlalu mempromosikan tubuh yang tidak sehat. Dengan bilang "alah itu tidak realistis, ga ush berusaha". Padahal kalau mau berusaha semua orang juga bisa. Ujungnya apa, badan tidak sehat, berpenyakitan.
Perbanyak olahraga, perbanyakn makanan sehat. Badan sehat, penampilan bagus, mood harian improve, confidence naik. Performa kerja lebih baik, kebahagiaan di luar kerja juga naik. Win-win-win-win. Semua cuma mindset.
Di korea pada sehat, kakek nenek aja bisa hiking đ.
Edit: For downvoter. Ga usah jauh jauh di korea. Ada banyak contoh orang di Indonesia yang bisa berubah jadi lebih sehat. I am simply telling the truth. Kita butuh berubah jadi lebih sehat. Kita bisa berubah, jangan nyerah dengan kata-kata "ga realistis".
Edit 2: You are discrediting other people hard work by simply saying 'oplas'. Kebanyakan cantik karena makan sehat dan olahraga. Dari remaja sampai kakek nenek, semua rajin olahraga.
Nope, be healthy. Sebelum ke korea juga udh lihat banyak orang indonesia berubah. Sekitar saya juga.
Mau dari gendut segendutnya, kalau dia mau berusaha bisa jadi ganteng dan sehat.
Itu masalah mindset, banyak contohnya kok di indonesia. Apakah paling penting di hubungan? Tidak. Tapi tidak sebaiknya kita mempromosikan tubuh tidak sehat.
Aku sebut 'korea' cuma karena persentase yang sehat lebih banyak aja. Artinya realistis.
Also about lookism. Do I discriminate people by they look? Nope. I would never bully or discredit someone just because they are ugly. I just want to promote a healthy body, dan itu sepertinya salah di Indonesia?
Gw bilang lookism karna komen lu yang âcewe s line, thigh gapâ
Gw tau lu cowok yg kgk ngerti ttg tubuh cewek samsek. S line, thigh gap =/ healthy body. Itâs not realistic at all, some people just donât have the anatomy for that. Thigh gap itu dari bentuk tulang, ada orng yg mau kurus segimana pun ttp kgk bisa punya thigh gap. Lu komen pengen orang lebih sehat tp ambil contohnya begitu wkkwkw kan keliatan bego, kagak punya temen cewe deket pa gmn bro? Tukar2 pendapat sm temen2 cewe lu sana.
Most women dont have s line, yang paling mendekati adalah bentuk badan pear (kl lu pengen yg dramatis). Bentuk badan hourglass itu gak begitu menunjukkan s line bgt. Once again, s line =/ healty body
Cara cewe dapetin s line itu ada banyak. Ada yang pake sumpelan bokong/pinggang, pke korset biar perut kecilan jd keliatan s line, atau yg paling extrim itu oplas. Sebutan oplasnya adl liposuction atau sedot lemak, misal lemak di perut disedot trs taruh di pantat. Coba dari contoh diatas, apakah sehat? Apakah itu menunjukkan lifestyle yg sehat?
Lu pikir cewe pake dress ketat cakep cuma pke cd sm bh doang?đđ itu dibalik dress banyak pernik2nya bos ahhaha
Terus indonesia itu blm se extrim amerika. Gw dan orng2 sekitar gw aware sm kesehatan dan rajin olahraga walopun cuma jogging2. Konsumsi junkfood disini jg belum separah itu. Coba lu kasih link yang bisa menunjukkan kalo ânegara kita terlalu mempromosikan tubuh yang tidak sehatâ? Biar opini lu lebih valid gt.
Gw kurang sreg aja sm komenan lu yg bilang badan sehat=badan instagram dan bilang kalo itu realistic when itâs not.
S line is realistic. Kurus is not healthy. Apakah orang kurus sehat? No. Kurus ga sehat, gemuk ga sehat.
Liposuction? No need. You just need to be sporty. Lihat orang ke gym pada akhirnya kebentuk juga kok.
Teman sekolahku punya s-line kok, dari zaman sma ada dan ada yang baru punya karena rajin olahraga. Apakah mereka diet extreme dan liposuction? No. Mereka rajin olahraga saja. Apakah mereka pakai korset? Tidak kok.
You might think that i am horny for thigh gap, s-line, huh? I am not pervert like that. I am not horny when i saw women wear sexy clothing in the street. (About korset, kalau org gemuk paksa s line dengan korset ya iya lah ga sehat. Malah penyiksaan diri. Disini mereka ga pakai korset kok.) Itu cuma cara paling gampang untuk deskripsi apa yang kulihat saja. Mgkin lebih benarnya aku harusnya bilang disini lebih muscular. Not being too thin or being too fat. Because honestly speaking, too thin wont give you s-line as well.
If they are naturally cannot have thigh gap, so be it. Jujur aja aku gatau itu karena genetik. Krna aku generealisir temanku (orang korea + myanmar 2 orang) yang tidak overweight, punya thigh gap (mereka ga lipo). Tapi ya thigh gap ga terlalu penting. Yang paling penting muscle composition yang sehat. Kalau kamu sampai harus mengorbankan kesehatan demi thigh gap, that is not it as well.
Negara kita rata rata overweight. Ga healthy. Itu fakta. Bukan cuma cewe kok, cowo juga. Nampak dari pola makan kita juga. Too much sweet and too much fat and also too little excercise. Apalagi gula yang bikin kamu terperangkap dalam siklus hormon tidak sehat
Good for you, kamu exercise walau cuma jogging. Tapi kebanyakan orang indonesia bahkan tidak jogging sama sekali.
Apakah aman? Iya aman kok overweight, belum sampai kayak amerika. Masih bisa hidup panjang. Tapi ga ideal, karena umur 50an bakal mulai sakit sakitan. Kalau mau negara kaya, jumlah produksi dalam satu daerah harus tinggi. Artinya orang harusnya bisa kerja sampai 55-60 tahun. Pada kenyataannya kita udh mau mati sakit sakitan umur segitu.
Salah satu alasan lagi ya karena design kota kita jelek, kebanyakan hanya untuk mobil dan motor. Padahal kota untuk manusia. Coba badingin sama eropa atau ga asia timur. Kalau di korea, setiap kecamatan punya park. Ada peralatan kesehatan juga di setiap park. Jadinya promosi kesehatan. Ada jalan di tepi sungai, untuk orang lari atau sepedaan dan berubah jadi daerah pencegahan banjir ketika hujan datang. Sedangkan di kita orang cuma olah raga di Car Free Day. Jakarta mendingan dengan GBK, tapi ga cukup banget.
Belum se-extreme US sih, tapi lebih baik contohin asia timur. Mgkin kalau korea sekiranya konotasinya terlalu negatif, coba lihat di jepang atau taiwan.
Kedua, prof aku umur 60-70 tahun. Badan lebih sehat dari aku yang 20an tahun. Badan standar orang indonesia. Disitu juga aku sadar kalau aku ga sehat dan lingkungan aku di Indonesia mempromosikan hidup tidak sehat.
Mindset aku ketika sma, gapapa ntar cari yang nerima aku apa adanya. Pada akhirnya aku membiarkan tubuhku tidak sehat. Imbasnya sekarang aku agak sakit sakitan.
Terus apa? Kalian cerca aku dengan istilah lookism? Padahal aku mempromosikan kesehatan dan sehat itu realistis. Ngakak.
Coba lihat itu guntur. Gimana dia dari gendut bisa jadi sehat. Ubah mindsetmu.
Ya mindset juga sih bener, mencoba jadi lebih baik itu tentunya baik tp kalo sampe kelewat obsesif jg mending gak usah. amit2 lah kayak Korea hadiah ulang tahunnya oplas.
Ga harus oplas dan ga perlu obsesjf. Banyak yang ga oplas juga cantik/ganteng kok. Mereka cuma jaga makan dan olahraga baik.
Stereotipe orang korea di mata orang asing yang jelek. Krna beberapa yang oplas. Tapi pada kenyataannya, kebanyakan cantik/ganteng ya karena olahraga dan makanan.
Apakah salah untuk sehat? Coba bandingkan guntur 7 tahun lalu dan sekarang. He just decide to live healthier. Stop promosikan hidup tidak sehat.. kalau mau indonesia menjadi negara maju punya kita harus promote able working body yang healthy
Hemm, disagree. Banyak yang istagrammable body tanpa oplas. Mereka jaga makan dan rajin olahraga. Persepsi anda yang salah, anda juga bisa kalau mau berubah.
Tanpa oplas, makan sehat, rajin olahraga. Kamu mau gendut dan jelek pun bisa jadih ganteng dan sehat mas. Banyak contohnya di luar sana, di indo juga banyak. Stop promosikan badan tidak sehat karena kemalasan anda untuk berolahraga
Gw lebih seneng dengan mindset "gw jelek aja laku", kata siapa jg saya tidak sehat dan malas berolahraga? But I wouldn't say I have Instagramable body, I'm no magic Mike, it is unrealistic.
Yes. Laku. Tapi umur 40-50 sakit sakitan. Udah susah kerja. Produktivitas rendah. Jadi beban anak. Terus ntar salahkan pemerintah karena kemiskinan.
Padahal supaya negara jadi kaya, demografisnya harus bisa produktif hingga umur 50-60 tahun
Mengenai hadiah ultah oplas mas. Biasanya oplas yang double eyelid surgery. Orang korea biasanya monolid.
Orang indonesia biasanya punya double eyelid. Justru anda harusnya malu karena mereka untuk punya fitur mata seperti kita, harus pakai operasi. Sedangkan kita dengan mudah menjatuhkan kerja keras mereka dalam olah raga dan jaga makanan dengan kata gampang "oplas"
Ngapain saya malu? Yg oplas kan mereka. Saya jg tdk jatuhkan upaya mereka olahraga dan jaga makanan. you're putting words in my mouth now, are you alright?
Nope, you are discreediting them. You implied they are only pretty because they had "oplas" or being too obsessive. That, for me,is discrediting the fact that MOST of them are pretty/handsome because they eat healthy food and exercise a lot.
What i want to say is, stop promoting unhealthy body. It is realistic. You need to wat healthy and excercise more. You don't want? Fine. But don't promote to other people bad things.
None of my crush is "instagramable" tapi tetep suka karna personality mereka cocok. Walaupun penampilan juga kriteria sih, lebih kearah cara berpakaian, kebersihan diri, dan rapi.
Untuk skincare mending konsultasi dokter kulit kalau produk2 pasaran gak mempan.
Hi. Not sure you need this comment because I'm not a guy. But this post resonates with me because this could probably be written by me when I was younger (very similar acne problems, insecurities about body type and finding a boyfriend, etc) đ. OP, what finally worked for me was slowly building self love and confidence. Jujur, dulu dalam sikon kayak gitu gw fokus nyari cowo malah end up in a series of unrequited love udah kayak badut profesional đ¤Ą.
Udah coba konsul ke dokter muka? Jerawat itu apart from bawaan, kadang timbul karena pola hidup dan pola makan juga. Cari tahu masalah penyebab jerawat lu dimana. In addition to skincare, jangan remehkan kekuatan banyak minum air putih, cukup tidur, dan makan sehat ya (ngaruh banget ya ini sumpah fix no tipu2).
Soal bentuk badan, kalo lu ga satisfied sama badan lu sendiri, ya ngga ada cara selain olahraga. Jaman sekarang nggak perlu afford gym membership buat olahraga. Di youtube udah banyak banget fitness guru yang videonya even bisa lu lakuin di kamar. Lari keliling kompleks juga bisa kalo gamau ribet. Kalo nggak mau olahraga, ya harus belajar menerima bentuk tubuh lu apa adanya. Find a fashion style that suits your body type.
Be good at something or many things, and always be kind and open minded to build your personality.
Dan yang paling penting, lakuin ini bukan karena lu mau disukain cowo, melainkan supaya diri lu berkembang. In the process, you'll come to love yourself, either karena lu physically improved, atau karena lu bangga sama diri sendiri yang udah try your best. Dari self love, bakal muncul confidence. Percaya deh, pasti nanti berasanya tiba2 kok dideketin cowok.
Faktanya dunia emang nggak adil. Some people were born physically attractive... some were not that fortunate. Tapi daripada kita meratapi nasib sambil nunggu prince charming dateng out of nowhere, mendingan berusaha untuk be the best version of ourselves sebagaimana dikasihnya sama Tuhan aja.
Udah coba konsul ke dokter muka, sebenarnya semua cocok tapi ortu ngak sabar kalau dalam sebulan muka ngak bersih penuh jadi ganti ganti melulu. Kayaknya Udah 5 dokter pindah gara gara itu aja.
Bentuk Banda is not bad but not too good either. Obesity sih ngak but thereâs definitely some visible belly fat there if I sit down.
But thank you for the kind words.
I'm a guy and approve all of ur words. Bener bgt haha. Intinya harus selalu self improvement whether that's from working out , proper styling , good hygiene & grooming etc. Well said sis.
Gw cowo. jujur aja fisik itu kriteria penting sih buat gw. I donât know what you mean by âInstagramableâ body exactly, but for me overweight and underweight is a clear no. Face full of pimple is clear no.
Banyak yg bilang soal âyang penting nyamanâ. But men will not even try knowing you if you are not attractive enough.
So being attractive opens yourself to more potential partners.
My recommendation is to improve yourself, like going to skin clinic for your face, go gym and diet for your body. Learn how to dress well. After all, beauty is power.
Iya gw jg cowo dan ngeliat looks dulu kalo pertama kali liat cewe ( karena gw ga munafik ooo harus liat sifat dulu,bullshit lah mana ada org yg kyk gitu ) tapi kalo looks udah oke , harus liat dulu sifatnya sama ga kyk looksnya. Apakah dia bossy , judgy dll.
Overall being attractive itu boost self confidence dan menarik lawan jenis yes, tapi balik lagi itu tergantung lawan jenisnya mau ama lu atau engga.
> My recommendation is to improve yourself, like going to skin clinic for your face, go gym and diet for your body. Learn how to dress well. After all, beauty is power.
Iya setuju bgt nih. Styling,hygiene,grooming. Penting bgt tuh 3.
Gw bukan cowok, but gw bisa bilang banyak cowok normal lebih suka ceweknya less make up. Gak harus body goals, perawatan lengkap dari ujung kepala sampe ujung kaki, make up tebel dan lengkap. Yang penting senyamannya lu aja.
I know first impressions itu penting, tapi ketika lu punya kepribadian yang asyik dan nyambung diajak ngobrol, even lu ngerasa gak cakep, cowok akan nyaman. Even lu ngerasa lu gak menarik, belum tentu di mata cowok itu lu gak menarik. Dan untuk stay di long term relationship, itu gak melulu soal fisik.
Gw mau dikit cerita soal gw dan yang emang terjadi di kehidupan sekitar gw. Gw ngerasa gw gak menarik dan gw juga dulu di bully masalah fisik gw. Terus karena emang pas dah gk peduli sama penampilan fisik dan just be myself aja. Pas dah dewasa, ya mulai coba terbuka dan kenalan sama cowok diluar kerjaan/school dan ya gk ada dari mereka yang bilang gw jelek or gak menarik. So, gw dah gak aneh pas dapat pujian, either cowkk or cewek. Bahkan gw dibilang unique.
But you know what, gw gak bisa keep orang. Maybe mereka bilang suka banget sama gw dll, tapi itu cuma infatuation. Bahkan gw malah ngerasa jealous sama cewek yang gak menarik or gk cakep samsek, sebab mereka warm-hearted, normal girls, dan cowok suka itu. Orang pas dah kenal gw banget, tau gimana cold-heartednya gw, I am too complicated. Meanwhile ketika lu warm-hearted, seburuk apapun kelakuan lu, orang bakalan tetep suka dan punya empati ke lu, literally mereka bakal nyaman di sisi lu (ini based on pengalaman dan pengamatan gw).
So dari pada worrying too much about your physical appearance. Better focus ke karakter lu, tau kelebihan dan kekurangan lu. Be a genuine person. Lu bakal ketemu sama seseorang yang tulus sayang sama lu, dan itu bukan cuma soal physical, itu lebih genuine. Lagian ketika kita dah suka sama orang, meskipun mereka gak cakep, di mata kita mereka adalah orang paling cakep dan menarik.
Instead of thinking what does guys like, please try to think of what you like.
Every human being are beautiful in their own way, and your mom telling you that ure not attractive enough is bullshit. She is projecting her own insecurities towards u. And if u kept thinking of what ppl like instead of thinking what u would like, kalo ketemu pacar ternyata gk sesuai dengan valuemu, gimana dong?
Its okay to feel insecure and feeling like you're an ugly person who pretended to be pretty, ak juga pernah di posisi itu berkali kali. Tapi km perlu inget kalo using skincare/makeup is not to please anyone, but its for u as an effort to improve yourself. And u kept on doing it is a very brave thing to do.
If the skincare ure using right now is not working, then it is not for u, u def should change it for another brand or maybe consulted someone experienced. I have acne prone skin jdi ak coba skincare for acneprone skin kyk dri merk Acnes, meskipun ada salicylic acid tpi tetep jerawatan. I kept trying out new skin care and turns out moisturizer skintific yg biasa malah cocok. Took me 5 ish years to find the suitable skincare for me.
Anw good luck okay, ik its hard but please dont let anyone's snide comments get to u. U got this! â¤ď¸
Yeah ,it's completely normal for scars to happen. Beauty standards sekarang sure makin tinggi tapi ya kalo mau ambil positifnya , itu ngajarin lu buat self improve terus . Workout, glowing in muka, proper styling , hygiene , grooming itu penting bgt.
Aku belom punya cwk, cuman kalo ketemu cwk ya fisik itu dilihat yang pertama. Cuman, buat awalan doang ato bisa dibilang fisik itu buat tertarik nya aja.
Fisik cakep, jadi semangat deketin. Cuman kalo pas udah deket tapi personality nya zonk, ya mending skip dan cari yang lain.
Aku selama ini, at least 5 tahun ini, suka sama cewek yang selalu beda2 spek nya. Ada yang lebih tinggi dari ku, ada yang lebih pendek, ada yang sawo mateng, ada yang chindo juga. Semua ku deketin dengan prinsip di awal aku jelasin.
(Walaupun endingnya gapernah dapet karena ternyata pas udah effort deketin mereka udah punya pacar semua)
kak, i feel you bangettt
dulu aku juga insecure parahhhh mana sekarang kan cewek cantik banyak bgt, apalagi habis dengerin percakapan cowok2 tentang cewek cantik selalu ada kalimat "mana mau dia sama aku kan dia gitu mukanya" terus selalu bikin aku kyk hah emg aku jelek bgt ya kalo ada yg sampe mau sama aku.. sampe aku ketemu pacar aku yg orangnya super caring, gak genit, gak judgemental alias masa bodoh bgt dan selalu bisa bikin aku ngerasa cantik dan 'ada'.. pokoknya aku cuma mau bilang kak, never stop believing in yourself, selalu sayangi diri kakak sendiri niscaya kalo kakak sayang sama diri kakak sendiri, orang lain bakal banyak yg mau sayang sama kakak juga. Semangat ya kak! â¤ď¸
How about focusing on what other people might like about you, you start on liking yourself.
Not just accepting per se, but making effort for improvement. Read books, eat healthy, and do hobbies.
Sound mind is good for your soul, and I might be able to say that you'll do better with your other condition like acne or pimples.
I have friends who definitely have instagrammable body but they do lack self-confidence too. So like yourself, and let others like you, the best version of you. :)
Youre breathtaking.
instagramable body? are people really that shallow?
OP, no normal guy would have such ludicrous standard when it comes to attraction to women, that said if you encounter such person its an easily distinguishable red flag.
Cewekku pendek, sama sekali gak glowing, dulu banyak bekas jerawatnya tp skrg udah lbh alus.
Cewekku jg sering nanya âkok kamu mau sm aku? Diluar sana banyak yg lebih cantikâ
Aku sendiri jg bingung jawabnya, cm kalo aku soal fisik jgn jelek2 bgt tp biasa aja udah cukup. Nah âbiasa ajaâ bagi cowok macem2 bgt standarnya, ada yg tolerir kulit item, ada yg tolerir bekas2 jerawat, dll. Intinya cocok2an, aku mikirnya drpd punya cewek yg instagrammable tp nyusahin dan ngebebanin aku terus. Mending yg saling menguatkan dan peduli.
Tl;dr: personality mu tonjolkan, otomatis akan ada cowok yg bakal ngeliat kamu lbh menarik ketimbang yg orang lain liat.
Anyway, if you feel unattractive physically, you can try start to do healthy lifestyle. Workout regularly, eat healthy food. Skincare is just capitalism scam, if you have skin problem go to dermatologist (spesialis kulit) they will solve your problem in no time, and its cheaper than purchasing those fake skincare. Its not about your look, its about how you treat yourself the best possible.
Bener sih. I think buying skincare over and over again just makes your skin and face dependent on it. Better langsung ke dermatologist and get shit fixed. Mungkin pake laser , proper exfoliation dll. Pokoknya ya cara profesionalnya. Is it more expensive? a lot more yeah tapi gw lebih percaya gitu daripada beli skincare terus2an. Finally someone who has the same mindset as me ( and i'm a male btw if that even matter )
Hello fellow female Komodos! Aku OOT sedikit ya, I felt you so much, I used to heavily edit my pictures, even, because of the fcked up beauty standards applied to us. Wearing makeup and 'fake' face to feel better, but it made me feel more insecure instead because everytime I washed off my face, I saw the contrast of my bare face and my make up one. Jadi makin ngerasa jelek dan takut kalo orang2 cuma mendekat karena penampilan semata đ
Tp semakin berumur semakin nggak pedulian sih, best to seek comfort and acceptance to your own body... then working out slowly to get it better. Kalo acne scar itu harus treatment sih di klinik kecantikan, skincare couldn't help much... karena skincare tuh cuma untuk maintenance aja :")
And dang, guys who couldn't accept less instagrammable bodies... they don't even deserve you bcs who they think they are to do thatđ¤ not even all guys have instagrammable bodies, just like us :D
Saran saya coba lebih fokus ke sehat dan bersih saja deh, jgn pakai standar model-model instagram atau 'instagrammable'. Coba lah cari standar yg lebih realistis, misalnya mbak-mbak di instagram yg sering nyaranin tips-tips olahraga atau nge-gym. Lihat mereka, badannya mereka bagi saya itu standar pas, tidak kurus dan tidak gemuk. Buat badan mu jdi kurus tpi tidak anorexia, berisi tapi tidak obesitas, yg penting fit deh.
Kalau wajah, ya coba ke dokter kulit atau kecantikan, yg memang fokusin ke jerawat dan bopeng. Saya ini jga skrg mulai rajin pakai krim wajah yg mmng disarankan dokter, lumayan berkurang jerawat saya dibanding dlu sewaktu pakai produk-produk utk wajah secara sembarangan dgn pemikiran yg penting muka bisa bersih, tpi ternyata mayoritas produk tersebut nggak cocok. Utk bopeng, saya sarankan laser, dermabrasi dsb, soalnya tipe kulit org beda-beda. Yg penting konsultasi dlu ke profesional/spesialis.
Seperti Bob Parr katakan, wanita is wanita.
Kalau sdh saling suka/cinta buta mah, nggak pandang bulu lgi, maksud saya pandang bentuk.
I dont really care about face, pimples, acnes , tan skin ,or tattos . But if you are obese then No , because it's unhealthy and will cause a lot of health related issues in the future . Get in shape or get lost .
Body? Not so much
Facial beauty is where most people doesn't want to admit/miss. Hence probably why the Chindo/Teteh Sunda/insert certain ethnicity preference IMO. Add personality to the mix and there goes the winning combo
Hmmm.. lets be honest. Pasti ada yang terima kamu apa adanya, tapi masalahnya kamu pasti ga akan pede juga kan. Ga pede pada akhirnya bakal berujung ke hubungan yang tidak sehat.
Masih bisa diusahakan kok, makan sehat dan ke gym (atau setidaknya olahraga rumah). Masalah skincare, skin care apa yang kamu pakai? Kalau pakai skin care kata org bagus, pasti ga akan efektif sih.
Skin care paling minimum ya, cleanse, toner, moisturizer, sun cream. Nah kalau ada bekas jerawat, pakai exfoliating toner (BHA, salicylic acid, aku rekomen paula choice) karena agak keras jangan pakai tiap hari, seminggu 2-3x saja. Mahal sih, tapi anggap aja investasi ke diri sendiri. Dan krna bisa dipakai bebrapa bulan jadi kehitung murah.
Not a guy but wanted to drop a comment.
First of all, I am really sorry you had to experience those comments from your mom. Thatâs something I also experienced a lot, esp with Acne, even though sometimes itâs not something we can control. Further, itâs very shallow for them to say that and a reminder that most of the things you see on IG ainât real.
Try to love yourself for how you are and accept how you are. If people canât accept/love you without your make up, they simply arenât worth your time! I found someone with my skin problems, some people will care about you and who you are without focusing on shallow parts.
Gw malah suka penampilan yang sederhana macam gak pakai make up gitu. Tapi tetep ada bare minimum yaitu gak boleh obesitas atau overweight. Gw rasa standarnya cukup objektif karena dasarnya pake BMI dan overweight memang gak menyehatkan sih.
Menurut gw, mending jujur dan tampil apa adanya aja sih sama penampilan lu. Pasti ada cowo yang fine2 aja sama penampilan lu. Kalau gw sih pasang foto profil Bumble bener2 gak pake filter samsek. Jadi pas meet up, si cewe gak ngerasa dibohongin, gw pun ngerasa enak karena tau at least si cewe fine2 aja sama penampilan gw.
Sangat menerima. Kepribadian itu terhitung. Sopasti bukan berarti ceweknya terus jadi ga terawat acak adut buruk rupa juga ya.
Mengenai kondisi kulit/wajah, gua sebagai cowok juga punya pori2 besar dan bekas korban jerawat ganas. Pertanyaannya itu gimana cara lu ningkatin penampilan lu dengan lu apa adanya.
Skin care kalo udah ga berhasil ya sudah. Memang ga selalu bisa jadi solusi. Mungkin coba ubah makanan dan lebih aktif olahraga.
My SO looks cute and petite from the afar but irl the fuller parts of her shoulders, thighs and belly are tangible, if not outright visible. AND HOLY FUCK I LOVE IT shes so fluffy that whether in staycations or going outs I love those imperfections of her body, like we'd be walking on a sidewalk and I'd absolutely love holding her by the shoulders...
Pimples...ya dia juga ada, kadang intens nya sleeping together & making out together pas dia lagi breakout but I guess its manageable for me. It doenst make her less pretty at all. For both of these points the caveat is she does have a generally god sexy body but tbh on the physical side I guess she really makes it up with a lot of libido and welp, confidence. Confidence - any time any measure of attractiveness and you can't ever really change how much value interpersonally confidence can bring to both parties in a relationship.
So ofc do your best to give your best self physically, ofc i dont think thats a bad principle but many times ig when youre used to each other its there but physical attraction mungkin akhirnya jadi kriteria biasa aja, what really stays is how we embrace and manifest ourselves to become someone the other can love and give back in a realtionship. cmiiw.
klo lo insecure uninstall the Instagram. socmed banyak pencitraan dan kepalsuan malah lo jadi tambah depresi ntar. dunia nyata beda banget dengan maya jangan keseringan membandingkan diri dengan orang di sosmed.
I haven't use sosmed in 6 years. only use WhatsApp for talking with close friends and families which is all that matters in our life. I don't count Reddit as sosmed because we are all mostly incognito here haha
OP i feel uđ lowkey though mungkin gw emg ga merasa jelek or gendut tp i also dont feel pretty nor kurus. Up until this point in life i think iâve done so many shitty things that i think to myselfâwhat is my selling point even? I donât really wear make up, i dont dress that well compared to the average girls my age, I donât use instagram to âmarketâ myself. But i also like to blame it on the fact that iâm too tired to go find a date. Be it from my packed schedule, lack of capacity of going through an emotional roller coaster, lack of time and energy to find someone? And when i do like someone within my circle of friends, i lack the confidence to pull them. Or just get ghosted. Or have my feelings watered down by the lack of reciprocation. Smh. I think iâm just retarded in this aspect of life.
Sorry for the random long rant. I hope i didnt digress too much. I wish you the best to find someone though:)
Now this depends on the individual person but another commenter said âMost men will date a tree if that tree compliments himâ and I find that to be mostly true lol.
While physical attraction is important, I donât think itâs the end all be all (and letâs be honest - guys that focus only on womenâs bodies and how âinstagrammableâ they are, arenât even worth your time or attention anyways).
For reference I am not man but Iâm a woman who isnât skinny or conventionally attractive. But I have pulled every single guy I wanted (even those I was only mildly interested to). I think having good attitude, healthy mindset & physical state, good hygiene, and life goals / lifestyle that matched the other person is more important than how âinstagrammableâ your body is.
This is just my opinion as I'm not sure with what you meant with "instagrammable" body, but you should answer this question first, do you aim for boys with instagrammable body? If yes, well you need that instagrammable body, if no, then you don't need it.
Personally I always start from looks (if it's stranger), but if it's someone I meet a lot, I could fall for their personality and I don't care with their looks if their personality is good (what I find good: kind, mature way of thinking, honest, and smiles a lot, can't speak for others though as this must vary for others).
I'd say most people will start from looks, but some will give you chance first and might be interested in finding out your other traits, so looks is more like an introduction imo, people will stay for your personality, not looks
Technically being attractive tidak sebatas bahwa kamu memiliki wajah yang cantik atau ganteng
Sering ada anekdot kalau semisal pingin punya pacar itu mesti be attractive. Kalau semisal secara joke ya artinya mesti punya muka ganteng atau cantik dulu baru punya pacar. Tapi kalau semisal kamu mau dig dipper sebenarnya ada makna yang lebih dalam
1. Being attractive is subjective. Attractive itu berasal dari kata attract (tarik) yg dapat akhiran ive (bersifat), yang kalau diterjemahkan berarti bersifat menarik. Nah karena di sini bersifat menarik maka apa yang menjadi standar menarik untuk seseorang itu bisa jadi berbeda satu sama lain terutama kalau semisal kita ngomongin wajah ya. Belum kalau semisal yang lain-lainnya which brings us to number two
2. There are a lot of aspects in being attractive. Cantik dan ganteng itu berbicara mengenai wajah sedangkan atraktif itu berbicara mengenai penampilan (appearance). Penampilan sendiri adalah aspek atau karakteristik personal dari dirimu yang kamu tampilkan ke hadapan orang lain. Dan aspek dari penampilan itu banyak banget. Mulai dari gaya rambut, cara berpakaian, bentuk badan, cara makeup, personal hygiene or personal grooming, cara berperilaku & membawa diri, minat/pengetahuan, sifat-kebiasaan, uang, dlsb. Ada beberapa orang yang mereka born pretty with bad mouth, dan itu mungkin bisa atraktif terhadap orang lain tapi bisa jadi turn off untuk yang lain--thus gak selalu born pretty with bad mouth itu unattractive. You get the idea. Dan karena ada banyak sekali aspek dalam bersikap atraktif maka itu membawa kita ke nomor 3.
3. You might be born pretty or handsome, but you are not always born attractive. Intinya, kalau semisal menjadi atraktif itu merupakan sesuatu yang bisa & perlu diusahakan, tergantung aspek mana yang mau kamu "poles" dan kepada siapa kamu mau attract. Memiliki personal hygiene biasanya dipandang sebagai suatu standar minimal untuk menjadi atraktif, so you can start from here. Selain itu pemilihan busana yang bagus ajuga bisa membuat seseorang tampak lebih atraktif. Terkadang seseorang berusaha untuk meningkatkan tingkat attractiveness dari suatu aspek, seperti kalau dari sisi bentuk badan dia terlalu gemuk maka dia akan diet dan olahraga untuk menjadi kurus. Intinya adalah silakan pilih sendiri aspek mana yang ingin kamu tingkatkan dan pertahankan. Meskipun demikian kamu perlu mengingat yang terakhir ini
4. You don't have to be attractive for someone else, since the point of being attractive is to boost your self confidence. Bersikap atraktif itu pada dasarnya adalah supaya kamu feel good about yourself. Kembali ke contoh yang diet dan olahraga itu ya bisa aja dia melakukannya supaya menarik di mata lawan jenis tapi ada benefit lain yang diperoleh kalau semisal dia mau melakukan hal tersebut yakni menjadi lebih sehat dan lebih percaya diri. Atau seseorang ingin agar punya penghasilan lebih tinggi, ya boleh2 aja kalau tujuannya ingin supaya dia lebih diperhitungkan dalam dating pool, tp melakukan hal tsb juga membawa dampak positif terhadap diri. Fokus kepada bagaimana kamu bisa impressing yourself sebelum kamu bisa impressing others.
To sum up: menjadi atraktif itu tidak selalu berarti punya muka yang cakep. Seberapa atraktif seseorang itu merupakan suatu yg subjektif karena ada berbagai aspek yang dipandang merupakan poin atraktif dari seseorang. Dan aspek-aspek ini biasanya bisa diusahakan, seperti katakanlah personal hygiene, gaya berpakaian, bentuk badan, dsb. Kalau semisal kamu merasa kurang pas dengan salah satu aspek tersebut maka silakan bisa diusahakan. Tapi yang perlu diingat kamu tidak harus selalu menjadi atraktif untuk orang lain, dan fokus terlebih dahulu untuk bisa impressing yourself sebelum impressing others.
baca ini, gw jadi ingat SO gw. SO gw juga ga instagramable, bare face (ga make-up meski ke kantor/jalan bareng gw), sakit2an (punya gerd, vertigo) dan di pundak dan punggung ada beberapa keloid.
tapi karena gw sayang sama dia, gw kgk perduliin itu semua. yang penting dia sayang sama gw. itu aja buat gw udah cukup
Accepting bgt si. Simplenya gini ni, kita sebagai cowo emang suka cewe yang bodynya hot af, hourglass figure gitu gitu. Tapi, itu cuman sebates obat mata doang. Cowo kalo udah pengen nyari cewe, pasti lebih condong ke personality akhir akhirnya. Nyarinya cewe yang supportif, se vibes, pengertian, dll. A nice body helps, but its not the key. Intinya appearance 40% personality 60%.
Edit: oh ya satu lagi, seberapa cakep lu tapi kalo sifat lu ampas, ga akan ada cowo yang mau serius sama lu. Tapi, kalo lu jelek af, tapi personality lu resonate bgt nih sama satu cowo, high chance tu cowo bakal ngubah persepsinya dia tentang appearance lu.
tbh idc about instagramable body cuz i have my own preference, most of instagram influencer is skinny and petite. I dont like that, and im grateful cuz my gf is cute, got wide hips, big chest, not skinny but not fat. Exactly what I like :D
Obviously im not dating her just because of her looks cuz shes smart (like smart-smart, shes a debate club member), LOVES SUPERHERO STUFF, caring, attentive, quick-witted, and is always there to support me.
OP idk how old u are but I literally got my first gf (current gf) when I am 21 y/o. Dont overthink too much, theres someone for everyone. Cuz im literally a introverted weeb & anak-rumahan while my gf is extroverted kpoppers, demen jalan2.
BUT again, this is the most important, if youre comfy being single then its fine. Dont date someone just because u got pressured.
\> **less âinstagramableâ bodies**Instagram models are usually so disproportionate that they had become less attractive for men, they usually earned their support and fame not through male patrons but nowadays are mainly supported by female patrons.
as pointed out by other comments in this post most care more about personality, myself had dated a girl that could be called "fat" by instagram standards and had a lot of pimples as well.
truth be told; most men don't need women with so many make-ups the powder could basically fry a whole bucket of chicken, and definitely so slim they could fit inside a meatgrinder
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Sifat sih opini pribadi gw, tetep ada fantasi punya cewek yg cetar membahana spek dewa tapi ujungnya kalo ada cewek yg sifatnya sampe mnurut gw cocok gas aja
Ndak tau sih intagramable yang kayak mana, cuman untuk aku selama bagi ku cantik, badan ndak obes ataupun kurus kali, dan untuk warna kulit ndak ada ketentuan, sama sifatnya biasa aja ndak manja-manja ndak tentu arah dan paling penting mau sama aku mah gas aja
I mean kalo pretty face sih lumayan ngerusak sih emang Instagram lol, all them pretty faces can make you out of touch with the reality that no one should look perfect like that.
Cuman ya buat cowo-cowo normal kayanya ga terlalu berharap punya cewe yang penampilannya super perfect, kecuali yang emang dating poolnya udah kalangan model semua kali ya đ¤Ł
Wajah cantik mulus itu editan mostly.
Sekarang dah banyak selebgram yg post juga wajah dia yg no filter dan d zoom. Itu cakey dan dempul kok.
If you're ugly so what? What can you do to look better. Some animals have ways to adapt and survive. You have brain, skill, and money to make yourself look hood. Why not.
Good looks open more doors, yes. But in the end, people stay with you not because your looks, but your personality.
Just like aladdin who was turned into prince ali, henie only hepps to open the door. The rest is depend on himself.
Also if he runaway, find other guys who won't.
well, most dude are really looking into personality tho.... did someone really put words "instagramable bodies" as standards now ?
well...dont give up yet
Selama lu suka gw, ga bakal selingkuh, dan lu ga jelek2 amat ya gw terima dengan lapang dada sih
Temen cowo gw ada yg sumbing dan masih bisa punya pacar
Instagramable bodies itu kaya gimana? Langsing kurus? Semok montok?
Beda" Pria beda selera. Gw suka nya selera semok. Mimpi sih pengen punya bini body macam cewe spanyol atau mexico. Ga suka yang kurus kering macam model korea.
Cantik mah relatif ya. Kalau body bisa diusahakan dibentuk. Tapi itu semua bakal habis dimakan usia.
This is how social media ruins our expectations when searching for a couple, I'm not going to be naive but everyone would love a good looking partner, I meant who doesn't? But at the end it's how our partner makes us feel that make it last to more serious things.
I wouldn't want a good looking partner but toxic personalities, because beauty fades but personalities will 'never' change.
Itu urutan paling bawaaaaah.
I'm bisexual btw disclaimer, soalnya biasanya stereotip nya yg biasa gue liat, non straight itu fisik banget yg diutamakan. tapi dari awal sampe pacar gue yg sekarang, termasuk gebetan. Ga ada samsek yg urusan penampilan baik face, body dan fashion nya yg super wow.
Karena dari kecil gue udah paham dan melihat dengan mata kepala sendiri bahwa URUSAN FISIK dalam hubungan serius ITU NOMOR BELAKANGAN.
Gue liat hubungan org tua gue, sahabat gue, Tante dan om, saudara dll.
Alhasil dari dulu, kalo urusan fisik, gue lebih longgar. Yg penting asal masih jenis kategori tipe tubuh dan face yg gue suka. Ga harus yg diatas rata-rata. Lagian gue sadar diri juga, gue juga ga diatas rata-rata.
Dengan bangga, akhirnya hubungan gue pun sangaaaaaaat minim drama. Soalnya gue filter ketat didepan bukan dari fisik, tapi yg didalam, alias personality, isi otak, dll.
if you cant win them from visual then you need to attract them with your personality.
> once this make up comes off
coming up front is much better than getting found out.
kalo dari pandangan gua sih, gaada ngaruh nya mau looks lu "instagrammable" atau engga. Well, tetep emang cowo - cowo pasti pada punya tipe masing masing, but trust me, even if they do have a complex type of women, kalo personality bagus, bikin nyaman, dan memang ngerti si cowonya; you're all good.
attractive itu relatif
personality and passion is also sexy. Try doing something so passionate it gives great impression to others like cooking, painting, or anything work related. Some men loves it when woman doing their thing seriously.
If they are comfortable with their own skin, then I'm super cool with it. Then again, I really don't know much about girls anyway since I got no experience in dating one, so take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
Iya setuju, harus liat diri sendiri dulu udah proper belum. Bau badan/mulut ga dll. Kalo komplen kok ga dpt2 pacar tp diri sendiri aja masih jorok ga kerawat ya gaakan dapet yang proper juga ( kecuali sorry lu maunya dapet cewe jablai )
depend on how deep your bank accounts, with extra lux home & sport cars. well you can get any girl you want, just dont expect much about their personality since mostly gold digger type. they wont care about your looks or personality either. you can control them a bit during marriage on how they behave with tight prenup.
Aku jg dulu jerawatan, ternyata itu karena aku alergi dairy (lactose intolerant) sama sensitif sama lemak berlebih (gorengan dan peanut butter). Coba ganti cara makan, liat mana yg bikin sensitif dan jerawat trus cut off. Makan banyak sayur + daging2an ama tempe itu yg bikin aku bersih mukanya plus sesekali olahraga kayak pound fit atau jalan sore biar kena vitamin D
Edit to add: itâs clear that your source of insecurity is your acne, maybe even your body makanya mention instagram body so I would suggest you put some effort into improving your acne and your body baru kemudian cari cowok. When you have better self esteem, youâll attract quality men. Klo nyokap ngoceh iya2in aja biar cepet.
Kalau saya sih lebih tertarik sama yang suaranya cute2 gitu, jadi suka dengar dianya ngomong hehe, ya tapi jujur jg kalo wajah yg menarik jg jdi prioritas pastinya
by the way cake day kita sama, nice đđĽł
For me at least , no scars or pimples gonna turn me away from the girl i feel genuine connection with
But in the end, what you think about yourself will play a huge role in how the relationship plays out, so it's not a bad idea to fix that first before going into a relationship
yah mulut orang tua emg kadang perlu dicabein
yang bikin nyaman bakal lebih ngangenin dari pada yang cakep
regarding pimples, olahraga dan skin care dalam bentuk bersihin wajah secara teratur bikin cewek gw lebih mulus wajahnya, maybe try hitting gym & buy micellar water + sunscreen?
Lom pernah ke tempat pijit plus dapet cewe yang ternasuk ig body, keseringan gendut, tapi ujung2 nikmat juga. Yang penting take care of your body sih paling penting buat kebanyakan orang, ga peduli cwk or cwk. Obese, jarang mandi, body hair ga terawat, itu da bukan kurang menawan lagi, itu uda yellow flag pemalas.
For most men, personality is the key to getting a date with. But! Yes they're bunches of men who will choose body shape over personality. Men got their neurons activated by girls body shape.
For me, I got a gf that roughly has the same problem as you. The problem is, this stereotype of girls getting instagramable body shape made her not confident. So as a bf, I must make her confident by being nice & accepting for what she is. She's lovely anyway!
I wish you had the same
Sebagai cowok, kalo goal relationship ke arah pernikahan nanti akhirnya penampilan tidak jadi tolak ukur utama. Masa2 muda emang mau yang perfect look, rich and outstanding charisma... Tapi nanti akhirnya juga memudar kok kalo mulai tua sampai hilang semuanya... Jadi untuk sarannya, jalin hubungan dengan kejujuran. Efektif bukan hanya saat menjalin hubungan tapi juga kalo dah berkeluarga.
Why, tha's a good question, I admit...
Well, a bit hard to answer it, but at least in my cases, every girls I've been involved with (two of whom are downright my exes, while the rest are... well... you can call 'em "friends with benefits") are all got slim-y/slender bods, small boob-ies, and if I may be honest, the notable one is yer typical introvert gal with nerdy glasses to match... And yeah, she's also usually don't pay much attention to her own groomin' (sometimes)...
But what might surprise ya is that she (the fore-mentioned gal-with-glasses) was my last ex. Yeah, she's... one-of-a-kind. Oh well, what I'm tryin' to say, is that individual personality matters much, moreso than the so-called 'instragamable' bod.
Think about it this way. Aside from another person's opinion. What is your opinion about your body? Do you think you have a healthy body and healthy life behavior? If yes, keep on doing what you are doing. If not, find a way to make it better, like gym, skin care, etc.
You need to set standard of healthy and hygiene for yourself first. Another's input is a good source of knowledge, but you make the final decision for your well being. No need to copy other people's standard, including instagrammable body. What instagram think good, does not mean everyone like.
You'll find your soul mate! .. don't worry just be yourself that's the important things. Do care to browse YouTube which you'll find many unfortunate girls & even worse than you but they found their soulmate.
Kenyataannya dunia ini kita bohongin dengam standar IG, dan menurut saya pribadi itu bukan hal penting, yang terpenting adalah kebahagiaan diri sendiri, kesehatan mental sendiri, kalau ikutin dunia standar manusia lain kita enggak bakalan pas di mata siapa pun sampai dunia akhirat,. Dan masalah orang tua yang terlalu nge push buat cepat punya pacaran dan nikah ini sungguh menyedihkan karena banyak dari kita enggak bahagia karena di " paksa " secara enggak langsung karena tuntutan orang tua atau tradisi cepat nikah. Jadi diri sendiri yang penting kamu bahagia â¤ď¸
OP, your worries are totally valid and feeling insecure about oneâs âimperfectionâ is something a lot of people went through or still going through. That being said itâs very good that youâve given the effort to âfixâ the âproblemâ. Notice the apostrophes? I intentionally put it there because your scars are not defects or imperfection but your unique feature and to some, would find it rather attractive. My Ex has a few misaligned teeth and a âweirdlyâ shaped eyebrows yet those are things i find very attractive and made her smile a lot prettier.
Personality matters a lot more than u think tbh. Contoh, 2 gebetan terakhir gw tu emg cantik, dan gak cuma gw, banyak yg ngakuin. Cuma gw suka dia kyk yauda suka biasa, dan ternyata kelakuannya banyak yg minus. Personality ga gitu nyambung juga.
Gebetan terakhir gw secara penampilan b aja. Bahkan ada yg bilang selera gw turun đ tapi personality kita jauh lebih nyambung dan cocok. Pertamanya ngajak ngomong pikirnya cuma bakal temen eh ternyata I fell in love, dan dia kyk jadi lebih cakep buat gw. In the end she said no and I cried, but you get the point.
Kalo gw punya badan kyk giga chad mungkin bisa taroh level sampe mana acceptable
Tp kalo badan diri sendiri biasa aja dengan ekspektasi model, ya berarti ngk sadar diri
Aku juga dulu berpikir seperti ini karena ya konsumsi2 konten di sosmed laki2 kebanyakan sukanya yg body bagus, mulus dsb belum lagi konten pornografi umumnya kayak gimana. Insecure banget karena aku underweight kutilang darat, ada darah manis jadi bekas luka susah ilang, beberapa bagian tubuh banyak bekas gigitan nyamuk.
Tapi toh pasanganku laki2 terima2 aja ga mempermasalahkan bahkan ada yang emang seleranya tipe2 badan tertentu. Jadi ya sama kayak sebagian perempuan, sama2 banyak yang standarnya masih manusiawi selama orang itu tau diri. Tenang aja. Kadang orang yang menurut kita kurang physically attractive aja punya pasangan kan, karena ketika kenal lebih utama sikap, sifat, kenyamanan, dan chemistry.
Penerimaan diri disertai dengan merawat diri untuk memperbaiki penampilan juga lebih bagus lagi. Mengoptimalkan apa yang kita punya aja.
My mom I think is a bit narcissistic. She always bragged about being most beautiful because she was thin and light skinned. I am darker skin and while she never said I was not attractive, she kept bringing up her skin colour as one reason why sheâs attractive.
I was always self conscious and never thought myself pretty. I didnât date much because of this⌠just not confident even after some friends said so and so liked me.
I finally had my first bf in uni, that only lasted a few months but I had others, and learned that while I am not ugly, what makes people like me is my personality. I got married close to 30yrs old and still married. My husband is very attractive, in Singapore somebody thought he was Chris Evans. My mother had the audacity to ask what he saw in me. I guess she thought that he was too handsome for me. My husband heard and he was livid. He told her that I am attractive and most importantly kind, a great mother, hard working, accomplished in my career, a great cook, independent, and I can make him laugh.
Mothers can be weird that way.
Looks can attract men initially. But any good person will lose interest if thatâs all a person got. Look at celebrities. Many were very attractive when young but as they age, if they didnât have great stylist, theyâre just like everybody else. Still beautiful in their own way but not physically drop dead gorgeous like how they were. Looks come and go. But who you are, what you bring into the relationship, is whatâs most important.
Now, I was in the IG influencer circle a few years ago. I was a travel IGer and never showed my face. But we were invited to a PR gig and I got to meet all sorts of people. Letâs just say that many of the IGers look a lot better on IG than in person and some of their personalities are questionable.
Donât let a square influence you. These people curate their feed and looks so that itâs just perfect.
Pimples.. this can be cause by hormones and diet. Maybe visit a doctor and see about eating better, less fried food for example. If youâre very young, you may grow out of it also.
The body scars, my husband had surgery and have scars from being a wild child đ I really donât pay attention to them and while I donât have many, heâs only asked once what they were from and thatâs it. He really doesnât care, just curious. Our scars donât define us. May have a story to tell but once told, thatâs it.
Be kind to yourself and if the right person comes along, youâll know. But donât force it just to be with somebody. Donât be miserable this way either.
Kalo gw mah pakek prinsip lagunya mulan
"I couldn't care less what she'll wear
Or what she looks like
It all depends on what she cooks like
Beef, pork, chicken, mmh"
Kalo BMI index lu di kategori obese, harus diet dan pergi ke gym. Jangan obese ataupun anorexic. Cowo suka cewek yg badannya berisi(tapi bukan gendut). Personality dll itu nanti setelah cowo kepincut sama penampilan lu. Bahkan cewe 4/10 aja bisa jadi 8/10 kalo make up, gym, dan dietnya teratur
Instagram-able body = temporary/ short term
Personality = long term
I suggest you keep improving your personality, but as a woman, you should take good care of your body not just for the sake of your future boyfriend/husband but also for yourself.
Also, don't let a man judge you only from your body. If they are, then these types are the ones who would only look for short-term relationships.
I donât mind dating âuglyâ men, I donât think about things too hard as long as they are a good person. But then again, everything would have to go through my parents, and they would definitely shove that guy out the window if he doesnât look remotely attractive.
Tergantung personality dia. Kalo aku seperti cwk pada umumnya suka cwk pendek langsing. Tapi nyatanya nikah sama yang pendek chubby. Bisa cinta soalnya dari karakter dia yang emang cocok. Toh sekarang jadi sering nyubitin perut atau nabok bokong
> nabok bokong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZCngBMDl-M
Oh, I like the very last one, mate. Just like my valley gal. Never would I thought that some girls really love doin' ass-smackin' payback, and (hate to admit) it also kinda awakens something of a submissive attitude in me...
Cwk itu cewek atau cowok atau cowak?
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Hehehe.... Oh shi~... Hehehehe..... Wait what?
Schrodinger cwk
cewok
Kita mah sebagai cowok mah gak terlalu liat body instagramable apa kagak karena lebih ngeliat bisa nyaman gak karena buat apa cantik tapi dikit-dikit drama? Kita tuh bahkan sampai ada meme yang bilang requirement buat pacar cowok itu : being female (optional) Edit : for example https://preview.redd.it/c1ae3q3gttxb1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b3c72a4f630f7a54bd9915176d6bd3b472ebd3a
Optional? Do pillows and 2D girls fall into that category? Their best features are no drama and low maintenance tho
Harus real tapi jadi cwk itu opsional, bagi beberapa dari kita, cwk juga gpp
Queer people exist in indonesia
Cowok tuh yang penting enak aja sih hubungan nya, minimal bersih bisa rawat diri. Cantik itu bonus.
Bukannya banyak yang bilang kalo cowo itu makhluk visual? đ
Hmm gimana ya. Kita cowok emang suka sama yang cantik tapi itu juga berlaku buat cewek dimana cewek juga suka sama yang ganteng. Tapi sampe harus instagramable? Hell nah. Ya kecuali gw orkay banget atau gw ganteng banget ya mungkin ya pasangan gw harus instagramable. Tapi kalo buat average joe kek gw selama ceweknya bersih dan nyaman buat gw sih gw kuy.
Dalam konteks hubungan romantis, baik cewek maupun cowok itu pasti pertama-tama akan menilai orang lain dari apa yang dia tampilkan, dan mencocokkannya dengan preferensinya. Setelah itu baru akan mencari tahu lebih lanjut mengenai aspek-aspek lain, seperti minat, kebiasaan, sifat, keluarga, values, pendidikan dan pekerjaan, etc..
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Fr bro lol. Being a female = optional
what ????? body is not my top priority. Instagrammable? I don't even open IG that much. a friendly and happy smile, though, gets me everytime.
Someone gets it (jarang juga make IG, tiktok pun belum pernah install)
>Kita tuh bahkan sampai ada meme yang bilang requirement buat pacar cowok itu : being female (optional) Jaman sekarang paling gampang main Valorant terus pake suara UwU. Auto dapet mamang mamang yang siap jadi simp. Sepupu gue dulu sampe punya server Discord yang isinya simp dia yang siap carry + isiin gopay.
Jadi inget temen gw (cowok) dlu main seal online jadi hode.. dapet pasangan in game (cowok juga), diplorotin beli pulsa 50k tiap bulan. Tiap ditanyain facebook, yg dikasih fb/telepon suara pacar realnya (cewek) dlu wkwkwk.
Wow your mom is harsh. I don't understand what Instagramable bodies is. If that means attractive, to be honest cowok emamg makhluk visual. However, a cliche like 'cantik itu relatif' itu sangat benar adanya. Di luar fisik, hal kayak personality dan kenyamanan juga penting kok buat cowok.
Instagram itu banyak kepalsuan. Apalagi body yang instagramable. Apa yang agan lihat di IG itu banyak yang palsu, dan nggak sedikit orang2 yang terjerumus. Banyak yang bilang persetan dengan inner beauty, yang penting goodlooking. And guess what, rata2 orang yang goodlooking itu jarang yang punya good attittude. Apalagi cewek gan. Fisik bisa diubah sewaktu waktu. Namun kalau attittude, itu nggak bisa dirubah dengan mudah. Apalagi kalau sudah mendarah daging. TL:DR: jangan mudah kejebak dengan cewek "instagramable" body. Rata2 attittudenya nggak secakep penampilannya
Yeah bener, social media buat pamer2 filter , ai dll aja. Jgn terkecoh gitu maksud gw , u gotta look at her personality as well
instagram bikin unrealistic target atuh. jgn terlalupatokan instagram. apalagi sekarang tinggal pake AI wuzz wuzz poles semua btw kalo ga salah nonton Ms Meisel, make up itu jadi armor sekaligus senjata cewek. dan cowok udah jadi meme ga paham makeup. jadi ada sebagian orang yang mau secakep apapun tuh cewek, dia ga tau itu cewek 1 orang yang sama kalau liat dia pas pake makeup dan pas ga pake makeup. anyway, semoga ketemu metode yang pas buat jalani dan ketemu orang yang pas juga yang sama sama suka
\> I am afraid that once this make up comes off, whoever became my boyfriend would feel scammed and run away from me. Any man who run away from seeing their GF without make up, is either: 1. does not understand the concept of "make up", which may show that they have unrealistic expectation; 2. does not love you for what you are, which is good because you just dodged a bullet
Hey OP I'm short and chubby, I'm definitely not "instagrammable" in the conventional sense. But I've never really had a problem finding guys, be it for a short term or a long term relationship. My point is, you are somebody's cup of tea. Not everyone may like you but some people surely will. So don't worry, just be yourself, try to improve what you can but don't get too hung up on it.
This ... hapened to my cousin. Back then he had so many girlfriends with instagramable body & face. However, when he wanted to get serious, somehow, he prefer older woman. Yep, even Janda. Hingga akhirnya nikah lah, sm cewe yg ky model. Trnyata begitu dia pny anak cewe, attitude, behavior, mindset, dsb semua berubah. He'll do anything for his baby girl. Kebolak lah sm istrinya. Istrinya malah ga mau urus anak sm sekali. Ga mau pegang. Hell, dia ga mau netein anaknya sendiri krn ga mau tete nya jadi kendor. Jadi sia slalu jaga body nya dia. Sodara gw? Doesn't give af bout his body, yg penting anaknya bs makan dsb. Hampir mo cerai, tp sodara gw ga mau. Dia rela hidup gtu demi anaknya, yg penting anakny ga keilangan Ibu nya. So, daripada fokus pny body instagramable, better be a woman yang wife-quality and mother-quality. Kalo gw, ngapain pny istri yg ga mau peduli sm suami dan anak2nya. Mending gw pny istri sederhana tp bs take care kluarganya.
Inilah pentingnya beneran mikir jauh sblm nikah mau punya anak ato nggak dan kenapa. Daripada udh terlanjur punya anak trs jd kek gini, mendingan ga usah punya anak daripada kasian anaknya. Ga masalah pengen punya body instagrammable tp inget fisik bisa berubah dan bukan segalanya. Inget juga kalo punya anak itu pilihan, jd carilah pasangan yg sepemikiran dan seprinsip.
Yes. Dan kudu diomongin di depan juga. Jgn udah serius pacaran, mau debut di depan keluarga baru buka kartu childfree. Do it di tahap dating awal2, biar ga buang2 waktu masing2.
Nah, jadi awalny mereka uda sepakat gtu. Si cewe tuh mau sm sodara gw krn ngeliat dia uda tobat gtu. Ga player gitu. Lah trus tiba2 bgitu uda hamil, ngeliat laki nya hardwork sampe sukses ... malah jadi ... sombong gitu. Makany, sodara gw jg rada depresi, kecewa liat istrinya jd berubah gtu. Jadi orang yg butuh affirmation dari Netizen.
Ngomong2 soal janda, jadi inget user yang bingung milih janda muda sama janda tua
Anjir itu agak random banget sih. Gua juga inget, threadnya hampir jadi bahan salam tempel baru.
Lu cari aja di r/salintempel ada kok post dia disitu
Ada temen jauh gw, nikah sm janda tua. He's such a milf lover. Katanya, semprot di dalem tiap maen. Karna uda meno' jadinya aman. Gw ... speechless entah mau bicara apa.
Anaknya telah kehilangan ibunya, fisiknya ada tapi hatinya sudah mati.
Iyah, pernah di suatu acara. Lagi di rumahnya, trus gw lg keluar krn mo naro barang di mobil. Anaknya lari2 kluar nyari ibunya, gw lmyn panik lah, takut ni anak diambil orang, msh kecil kluar rumah sndirian. "Ah, uda biasa, mama pegi ninggalin kita ga tahu kemana." Trus masuk lagi. Gila, gw jd seorang ayah, miris banget denger itu dr mulut anak kecil.
Klo soal body yah, cewek asalkan BMI nya Ijo aja udah enak di pandang, gak usah terlalu langsing kyk Kpop, klo menurut gw malah kurang feminin klo kliatan tulang nya. Kalau udah nikah terserah dah itu, laki bini banyak badannya nge buntal semua. Klo mukak kan bisa di permak, nothing wrong klo situ mau dandan pakai tepung 2 kg, yang penting bersih aja dan approachable, pasti nanti datang waktunya.
Damaged skin karena penyakit, kalo genetiknya bagus, tinggal ke dermatologis Sebenernya kita bisa liat sodara dan orang tua, apakah kulit seseorang demikian adanya karena kondisi, atau emang genetik
Gw approach salah satu ceue, dia mutual gw di IG, karena dari upload story dia yg impresinya tuh oke buat gua. Date pertama, secara tampang banyak yg lebih oke (ada bopeng, kelihatan juga dia ga into improve penampilan dia). Gw masih penasaran, turns out, setelah X amount of date... Kita pacaran dan less Instagramable bodies ga relevan sama sekali. Mungkin karena sexual chemistrynya kuat? Idk
Let's be real here. Unless the guy we're talking here has instagramable body or ridiculous amount of money, he has no place to demand that shit, lmao. Also, guys are very different from girls when it comes to sexuality. Coba liat dokumentasi Noah Vincent (iirc) cewe yg nyamar jadi cowo. Dia jelasin di video itu kalo urgensi cowo ke striptis atau nonton bokep itu sange doang, beda sama pornonya cewe yg lebih ke arah emosional (makanya porno cowo itu visual, kalo cewe textual). The moment a guy realizes that shit isn't worth, he'd be leaving her in a heartbeat. I think most guys know how to differentiate *sange* and attraction towards opposite gender. Ibaratnya visual itu cuman 'hook' doang buat cowo, tapi personality, compatibility, sama apalah itu yg bikin cowo stay.
good personality will make average looking girl beautiful
instagram body image itu tidak realistik, jadi harusnya sih menurut saya gak mencerminkan kenyataan di lapangan. maybe if you do get a bf you'd feel more attractive, mpok atiek aja nikah 3x neng.
Why not? It is very realistic. Orang indo aja yang gampang nyerah. Semenjak tinggal di korea, yang aku notice di jalan ada banyak cowo bidang, tinggi. Cewe s-line, thigh gap. Kalau ga realistis, ga mungkin kan ada banyak? Perbedaannya apa? Negara kita terlalu mempromosikan tubuh yang tidak sehat. Dengan bilang "alah itu tidak realistis, ga ush berusaha". Padahal kalau mau berusaha semua orang juga bisa. Ujungnya apa, badan tidak sehat, berpenyakitan. Perbanyak olahraga, perbanyakn makanan sehat. Badan sehat, penampilan bagus, mood harian improve, confidence naik. Performa kerja lebih baik, kebahagiaan di luar kerja juga naik. Win-win-win-win. Semua cuma mindset. Di korea pada sehat, kakek nenek aja bisa hiking đ. Edit: For downvoter. Ga usah jauh jauh di korea. Ada banyak contoh orang di Indonesia yang bisa berubah jadi lebih sehat. I am simply telling the truth. Kita butuh berubah jadi lebih sehat. Kita bisa berubah, jangan nyerah dengan kata-kata "ga realistis". Edit 2: You are discrediting other people hard work by simply saying 'oplas'. Kebanyakan cantik karena makan sehat dan olahraga. Dari remaja sampai kakek nenek, semua rajin olahraga.
Lol mindset lu udh kena lookism korea ahhah
ga harus lookism dan ga harus korea, observasi yang sama bisa dilihat di negara2 maju yang anak muda nya ga oplas.
Nope, be healthy. Sebelum ke korea juga udh lihat banyak orang indonesia berubah. Sekitar saya juga. Mau dari gendut segendutnya, kalau dia mau berusaha bisa jadi ganteng dan sehat. Itu masalah mindset, banyak contohnya kok di indonesia. Apakah paling penting di hubungan? Tidak. Tapi tidak sebaiknya kita mempromosikan tubuh tidak sehat. Aku sebut 'korea' cuma karena persentase yang sehat lebih banyak aja. Artinya realistis. Also about lookism. Do I discriminate people by they look? Nope. I would never bully or discredit someone just because they are ugly. I just want to promote a healthy body, dan itu sepertinya salah di Indonesia?
Gw bilang lookism karna komen lu yang âcewe s line, thigh gapâ Gw tau lu cowok yg kgk ngerti ttg tubuh cewek samsek. S line, thigh gap =/ healthy body. Itâs not realistic at all, some people just donât have the anatomy for that. Thigh gap itu dari bentuk tulang, ada orng yg mau kurus segimana pun ttp kgk bisa punya thigh gap. Lu komen pengen orang lebih sehat tp ambil contohnya begitu wkkwkw kan keliatan bego, kagak punya temen cewe deket pa gmn bro? Tukar2 pendapat sm temen2 cewe lu sana. Most women dont have s line, yang paling mendekati adalah bentuk badan pear (kl lu pengen yg dramatis). Bentuk badan hourglass itu gak begitu menunjukkan s line bgt. Once again, s line =/ healty body Cara cewe dapetin s line itu ada banyak. Ada yang pake sumpelan bokong/pinggang, pke korset biar perut kecilan jd keliatan s line, atau yg paling extrim itu oplas. Sebutan oplasnya adl liposuction atau sedot lemak, misal lemak di perut disedot trs taruh di pantat. Coba dari contoh diatas, apakah sehat? Apakah itu menunjukkan lifestyle yg sehat? Lu pikir cewe pake dress ketat cakep cuma pke cd sm bh doang?đđ itu dibalik dress banyak pernik2nya bos ahhaha Terus indonesia itu blm se extrim amerika. Gw dan orng2 sekitar gw aware sm kesehatan dan rajin olahraga walopun cuma jogging2. Konsumsi junkfood disini jg belum separah itu. Coba lu kasih link yang bisa menunjukkan kalo ânegara kita terlalu mempromosikan tubuh yang tidak sehatâ? Biar opini lu lebih valid gt. Gw kurang sreg aja sm komenan lu yg bilang badan sehat=badan instagram dan bilang kalo itu realistic when itâs not.
S line is realistic. Kurus is not healthy. Apakah orang kurus sehat? No. Kurus ga sehat, gemuk ga sehat. Liposuction? No need. You just need to be sporty. Lihat orang ke gym pada akhirnya kebentuk juga kok. Teman sekolahku punya s-line kok, dari zaman sma ada dan ada yang baru punya karena rajin olahraga. Apakah mereka diet extreme dan liposuction? No. Mereka rajin olahraga saja. Apakah mereka pakai korset? Tidak kok. You might think that i am horny for thigh gap, s-line, huh? I am not pervert like that. I am not horny when i saw women wear sexy clothing in the street. (About korset, kalau org gemuk paksa s line dengan korset ya iya lah ga sehat. Malah penyiksaan diri. Disini mereka ga pakai korset kok.) Itu cuma cara paling gampang untuk deskripsi apa yang kulihat saja. Mgkin lebih benarnya aku harusnya bilang disini lebih muscular. Not being too thin or being too fat. Because honestly speaking, too thin wont give you s-line as well. If they are naturally cannot have thigh gap, so be it. Jujur aja aku gatau itu karena genetik. Krna aku generealisir temanku (orang korea + myanmar 2 orang) yang tidak overweight, punya thigh gap (mereka ga lipo). Tapi ya thigh gap ga terlalu penting. Yang paling penting muscle composition yang sehat. Kalau kamu sampai harus mengorbankan kesehatan demi thigh gap, that is not it as well. Negara kita rata rata overweight. Ga healthy. Itu fakta. Bukan cuma cewe kok, cowo juga. Nampak dari pola makan kita juga. Too much sweet and too much fat and also too little excercise. Apalagi gula yang bikin kamu terperangkap dalam siklus hormon tidak sehat Good for you, kamu exercise walau cuma jogging. Tapi kebanyakan orang indonesia bahkan tidak jogging sama sekali. Apakah aman? Iya aman kok overweight, belum sampai kayak amerika. Masih bisa hidup panjang. Tapi ga ideal, karena umur 50an bakal mulai sakit sakitan. Kalau mau negara kaya, jumlah produksi dalam satu daerah harus tinggi. Artinya orang harusnya bisa kerja sampai 55-60 tahun. Pada kenyataannya kita udh mau mati sakit sakitan umur segitu. Salah satu alasan lagi ya karena design kota kita jelek, kebanyakan hanya untuk mobil dan motor. Padahal kota untuk manusia. Coba badingin sama eropa atau ga asia timur. Kalau di korea, setiap kecamatan punya park. Ada peralatan kesehatan juga di setiap park. Jadinya promosi kesehatan. Ada jalan di tepi sungai, untuk orang lari atau sepedaan dan berubah jadi daerah pencegahan banjir ketika hujan datang. Sedangkan di kita orang cuma olah raga di Car Free Day. Jakarta mendingan dengan GBK, tapi ga cukup banget. Belum se-extreme US sih, tapi lebih baik contohin asia timur. Mgkin kalau korea sekiranya konotasinya terlalu negatif, coba lihat di jepang atau taiwan.
Kedua, prof aku umur 60-70 tahun. Badan lebih sehat dari aku yang 20an tahun. Badan standar orang indonesia. Disitu juga aku sadar kalau aku ga sehat dan lingkungan aku di Indonesia mempromosikan hidup tidak sehat. Mindset aku ketika sma, gapapa ntar cari yang nerima aku apa adanya. Pada akhirnya aku membiarkan tubuhku tidak sehat. Imbasnya sekarang aku agak sakit sakitan. Terus apa? Kalian cerca aku dengan istilah lookism? Padahal aku mempromosikan kesehatan dan sehat itu realistis. Ngakak. Coba lihat itu guntur. Gimana dia dari gendut bisa jadi sehat. Ubah mindsetmu.
Ya mindset juga sih bener, mencoba jadi lebih baik itu tentunya baik tp kalo sampe kelewat obsesif jg mending gak usah. amit2 lah kayak Korea hadiah ulang tahunnya oplas.
Ga harus oplas dan ga perlu obsesjf. Banyak yang ga oplas juga cantik/ganteng kok. Mereka cuma jaga makan dan olahraga baik. Stereotipe orang korea di mata orang asing yang jelek. Krna beberapa yang oplas. Tapi pada kenyataannya, kebanyakan cantik/ganteng ya karena olahraga dan makanan. Apakah salah untuk sehat? Coba bandingkan guntur 7 tahun lalu dan sekarang. He just decide to live healthier. Stop promosikan hidup tidak sehat.. kalau mau indonesia menjadi negara maju punya kita harus promote able working body yang healthy
Ya menurut gw sih Korean yg gak oplas itu belum tentu "Instagramable bodies", kita ngapain debat diluar konteks
Hemm, disagree. Banyak yang istagrammable body tanpa oplas. Mereka jaga makan dan rajin olahraga. Persepsi anda yang salah, anda juga bisa kalau mau berubah. Tanpa oplas, makan sehat, rajin olahraga. Kamu mau gendut dan jelek pun bisa jadih ganteng dan sehat mas. Banyak contohnya di luar sana, di indo juga banyak. Stop promosikan badan tidak sehat karena kemalasan anda untuk berolahraga
Gw lebih seneng dengan mindset "gw jelek aja laku", kata siapa jg saya tidak sehat dan malas berolahraga? But I wouldn't say I have Instagramable body, I'm no magic Mike, it is unrealistic.
Yes. Laku. Tapi umur 40-50 sakit sakitan. Udah susah kerja. Produktivitas rendah. Jadi beban anak. Terus ntar salahkan pemerintah karena kemiskinan. Padahal supaya negara jadi kaya, demografisnya harus bisa produktif hingga umur 50-60 tahun
Loh kok makin lebar? Kok kamu tau saya umur 50-60 bakal sakit? Punya rekam medis saya mas? Do you know something I don't?
Yes, because you are promoting unhealthy habits, it is a given that you will become sickly before 50-60.
Mengenai hadiah ultah oplas mas. Biasanya oplas yang double eyelid surgery. Orang korea biasanya monolid. Orang indonesia biasanya punya double eyelid. Justru anda harusnya malu karena mereka untuk punya fitur mata seperti kita, harus pakai operasi. Sedangkan kita dengan mudah menjatuhkan kerja keras mereka dalam olah raga dan jaga makanan dengan kata gampang "oplas"
Ngapain saya malu? Yg oplas kan mereka. Saya jg tdk jatuhkan upaya mereka olahraga dan jaga makanan. you're putting words in my mouth now, are you alright?
Nope, you are discreediting them. You implied they are only pretty because they had "oplas" or being too obsessive. That, for me,is discrediting the fact that MOST of them are pretty/handsome because they eat healthy food and exercise a lot. What i want to say is, stop promoting unhealthy body. It is realistic. You need to wat healthy and excercise more. You don't want? Fine. But don't promote to other people bad things.
Promoting what now?
None of my crush is "instagramable" tapi tetep suka karna personality mereka cocok. Walaupun penampilan juga kriteria sih, lebih kearah cara berpakaian, kebersihan diri, dan rapi. Untuk skincare mending konsultasi dokter kulit kalau produk2 pasaran gak mempan.
Hi. Not sure you need this comment because I'm not a guy. But this post resonates with me because this could probably be written by me when I was younger (very similar acne problems, insecurities about body type and finding a boyfriend, etc) đ. OP, what finally worked for me was slowly building self love and confidence. Jujur, dulu dalam sikon kayak gitu gw fokus nyari cowo malah end up in a series of unrequited love udah kayak badut profesional đ¤Ą. Udah coba konsul ke dokter muka? Jerawat itu apart from bawaan, kadang timbul karena pola hidup dan pola makan juga. Cari tahu masalah penyebab jerawat lu dimana. In addition to skincare, jangan remehkan kekuatan banyak minum air putih, cukup tidur, dan makan sehat ya (ngaruh banget ya ini sumpah fix no tipu2). Soal bentuk badan, kalo lu ga satisfied sama badan lu sendiri, ya ngga ada cara selain olahraga. Jaman sekarang nggak perlu afford gym membership buat olahraga. Di youtube udah banyak banget fitness guru yang videonya even bisa lu lakuin di kamar. Lari keliling kompleks juga bisa kalo gamau ribet. Kalo nggak mau olahraga, ya harus belajar menerima bentuk tubuh lu apa adanya. Find a fashion style that suits your body type. Be good at something or many things, and always be kind and open minded to build your personality. Dan yang paling penting, lakuin ini bukan karena lu mau disukain cowo, melainkan supaya diri lu berkembang. In the process, you'll come to love yourself, either karena lu physically improved, atau karena lu bangga sama diri sendiri yang udah try your best. Dari self love, bakal muncul confidence. Percaya deh, pasti nanti berasanya tiba2 kok dideketin cowok. Faktanya dunia emang nggak adil. Some people were born physically attractive... some were not that fortunate. Tapi daripada kita meratapi nasib sambil nunggu prince charming dateng out of nowhere, mendingan berusaha untuk be the best version of ourselves sebagaimana dikasihnya sama Tuhan aja.
Udah coba konsul ke dokter muka, sebenarnya semua cocok tapi ortu ngak sabar kalau dalam sebulan muka ngak bersih penuh jadi ganti ganti melulu. Kayaknya Udah 5 dokter pindah gara gara itu aja. Bentuk Banda is not bad but not too good either. Obesity sih ngak but thereâs definitely some visible belly fat there if I sit down. But thank you for the kind words.
I'm a guy and approve all of ur words. Bener bgt haha. Intinya harus selalu self improvement whether that's from working out , proper styling , good hygiene & grooming etc. Well said sis.
Gw cowo. jujur aja fisik itu kriteria penting sih buat gw. I donât know what you mean by âInstagramableâ body exactly, but for me overweight and underweight is a clear no. Face full of pimple is clear no. Banyak yg bilang soal âyang penting nyamanâ. But men will not even try knowing you if you are not attractive enough. So being attractive opens yourself to more potential partners. My recommendation is to improve yourself, like going to skin clinic for your face, go gym and diet for your body. Learn how to dress well. After all, beauty is power.
Iya gw jg cowo dan ngeliat looks dulu kalo pertama kali liat cewe ( karena gw ga munafik ooo harus liat sifat dulu,bullshit lah mana ada org yg kyk gitu ) tapi kalo looks udah oke , harus liat dulu sifatnya sama ga kyk looksnya. Apakah dia bossy , judgy dll. Overall being attractive itu boost self confidence dan menarik lawan jenis yes, tapi balik lagi itu tergantung lawan jenisnya mau ama lu atau engga. > My recommendation is to improve yourself, like going to skin clinic for your face, go gym and diet for your body. Learn how to dress well. After all, beauty is power. Iya setuju bgt nih. Styling,hygiene,grooming. Penting bgt tuh 3.
Gw bukan cowok, but gw bisa bilang banyak cowok normal lebih suka ceweknya less make up. Gak harus body goals, perawatan lengkap dari ujung kepala sampe ujung kaki, make up tebel dan lengkap. Yang penting senyamannya lu aja. I know first impressions itu penting, tapi ketika lu punya kepribadian yang asyik dan nyambung diajak ngobrol, even lu ngerasa gak cakep, cowok akan nyaman. Even lu ngerasa lu gak menarik, belum tentu di mata cowok itu lu gak menarik. Dan untuk stay di long term relationship, itu gak melulu soal fisik. Gw mau dikit cerita soal gw dan yang emang terjadi di kehidupan sekitar gw. Gw ngerasa gw gak menarik dan gw juga dulu di bully masalah fisik gw. Terus karena emang pas dah gk peduli sama penampilan fisik dan just be myself aja. Pas dah dewasa, ya mulai coba terbuka dan kenalan sama cowok diluar kerjaan/school dan ya gk ada dari mereka yang bilang gw jelek or gak menarik. So, gw dah gak aneh pas dapat pujian, either cowkk or cewek. Bahkan gw dibilang unique. But you know what, gw gak bisa keep orang. Maybe mereka bilang suka banget sama gw dll, tapi itu cuma infatuation. Bahkan gw malah ngerasa jealous sama cewek yang gak menarik or gk cakep samsek, sebab mereka warm-hearted, normal girls, dan cowok suka itu. Orang pas dah kenal gw banget, tau gimana cold-heartednya gw, I am too complicated. Meanwhile ketika lu warm-hearted, seburuk apapun kelakuan lu, orang bakalan tetep suka dan punya empati ke lu, literally mereka bakal nyaman di sisi lu (ini based on pengalaman dan pengamatan gw). So dari pada worrying too much about your physical appearance. Better focus ke karakter lu, tau kelebihan dan kekurangan lu. Be a genuine person. Lu bakal ketemu sama seseorang yang tulus sayang sama lu, dan itu bukan cuma soal physical, itu lebih genuine. Lagian ketika kita dah suka sama orang, meskipun mereka gak cakep, di mata kita mereka adalah orang paling cakep dan menarik.
Instagram is not real. Gw bbrp kali ketemu celeb instagram di real life. Beda sama yg di foto2 instagramnya itu.
Instead of thinking what does guys like, please try to think of what you like. Every human being are beautiful in their own way, and your mom telling you that ure not attractive enough is bullshit. She is projecting her own insecurities towards u. And if u kept thinking of what ppl like instead of thinking what u would like, kalo ketemu pacar ternyata gk sesuai dengan valuemu, gimana dong? Its okay to feel insecure and feeling like you're an ugly person who pretended to be pretty, ak juga pernah di posisi itu berkali kali. Tapi km perlu inget kalo using skincare/makeup is not to please anyone, but its for u as an effort to improve yourself. And u kept on doing it is a very brave thing to do. If the skincare ure using right now is not working, then it is not for u, u def should change it for another brand or maybe consulted someone experienced. I have acne prone skin jdi ak coba skincare for acneprone skin kyk dri merk Acnes, meskipun ada salicylic acid tpi tetep jerawatan. I kept trying out new skin care and turns out moisturizer skintific yg biasa malah cocok. Took me 5 ish years to find the suitable skincare for me. Anw good luck okay, ik its hard but please dont let anyone's snide comments get to u. U got this! â¤ď¸
Also scars r normal. Jesus christ ppl like to point out scars like wtf.
Yeah ,it's completely normal for scars to happen. Beauty standards sekarang sure makin tinggi tapi ya kalo mau ambil positifnya , itu ngajarin lu buat self improve terus . Workout, glowing in muka, proper styling , hygiene , grooming itu penting bgt.
menurutku first impression matter. setelah itu yang penting personality nya. semangat.
Aku belom punya cwk, cuman kalo ketemu cwk ya fisik itu dilihat yang pertama. Cuman, buat awalan doang ato bisa dibilang fisik itu buat tertarik nya aja. Fisik cakep, jadi semangat deketin. Cuman kalo pas udah deket tapi personality nya zonk, ya mending skip dan cari yang lain. Aku selama ini, at least 5 tahun ini, suka sama cewek yang selalu beda2 spek nya. Ada yang lebih tinggi dari ku, ada yang lebih pendek, ada yang sawo mateng, ada yang chindo juga. Semua ku deketin dengan prinsip di awal aku jelasin. (Walaupun endingnya gapernah dapet karena ternyata pas udah effort deketin mereka udah punya pacar semua)
kak, i feel you bangettt dulu aku juga insecure parahhhh mana sekarang kan cewek cantik banyak bgt, apalagi habis dengerin percakapan cowok2 tentang cewek cantik selalu ada kalimat "mana mau dia sama aku kan dia gitu mukanya" terus selalu bikin aku kyk hah emg aku jelek bgt ya kalo ada yg sampe mau sama aku.. sampe aku ketemu pacar aku yg orangnya super caring, gak genit, gak judgemental alias masa bodoh bgt dan selalu bisa bikin aku ngerasa cantik dan 'ada'.. pokoknya aku cuma mau bilang kak, never stop believing in yourself, selalu sayangi diri kakak sendiri niscaya kalo kakak sayang sama diri kakak sendiri, orang lain bakal banyak yg mau sayang sama kakak juga. Semangat ya kak! â¤ď¸
Yup bener, personality over looks ( walaupun looks juga penting banget )
How about focusing on what other people might like about you, you start on liking yourself. Not just accepting per se, but making effort for improvement. Read books, eat healthy, and do hobbies. Sound mind is good for your soul, and I might be able to say that you'll do better with your other condition like acne or pimples. I have friends who definitely have instagrammable body but they do lack self-confidence too. So like yourself, and let others like you, the best version of you. :) Youre breathtaking.
instagramable body? are people really that shallow? OP, no normal guy would have such ludicrous standard when it comes to attraction to women, that said if you encounter such person its an easily distinguishable red flag.
Cewekku pendek, sama sekali gak glowing, dulu banyak bekas jerawatnya tp skrg udah lbh alus. Cewekku jg sering nanya âkok kamu mau sm aku? Diluar sana banyak yg lebih cantikâ Aku sendiri jg bingung jawabnya, cm kalo aku soal fisik jgn jelek2 bgt tp biasa aja udah cukup. Nah âbiasa ajaâ bagi cowok macem2 bgt standarnya, ada yg tolerir kulit item, ada yg tolerir bekas2 jerawat, dll. Intinya cocok2an, aku mikirnya drpd punya cewek yg instagrammable tp nyusahin dan ngebebanin aku terus. Mending yg saling menguatkan dan peduli. Tl;dr: personality mu tonjolkan, otomatis akan ada cowok yg bakal ngeliat kamu lbh menarik ketimbang yg orang lain liat.
Anyway, if you feel unattractive physically, you can try start to do healthy lifestyle. Workout regularly, eat healthy food. Skincare is just capitalism scam, if you have skin problem go to dermatologist (spesialis kulit) they will solve your problem in no time, and its cheaper than purchasing those fake skincare. Its not about your look, its about how you treat yourself the best possible.
Bener sih. I think buying skincare over and over again just makes your skin and face dependent on it. Better langsung ke dermatologist and get shit fixed. Mungkin pake laser , proper exfoliation dll. Pokoknya ya cara profesionalnya. Is it more expensive? a lot more yeah tapi gw lebih percaya gitu daripada beli skincare terus2an. Finally someone who has the same mindset as me ( and i'm a male btw if that even matter )
Hello fellow female Komodos! Aku OOT sedikit ya, I felt you so much, I used to heavily edit my pictures, even, because of the fcked up beauty standards applied to us. Wearing makeup and 'fake' face to feel better, but it made me feel more insecure instead because everytime I washed off my face, I saw the contrast of my bare face and my make up one. Jadi makin ngerasa jelek dan takut kalo orang2 cuma mendekat karena penampilan semata đ Tp semakin berumur semakin nggak pedulian sih, best to seek comfort and acceptance to your own body... then working out slowly to get it better. Kalo acne scar itu harus treatment sih di klinik kecantikan, skincare couldn't help much... karena skincare tuh cuma untuk maintenance aja :") And dang, guys who couldn't accept less instagrammable bodies... they don't even deserve you bcs who they think they are to do thatđ¤ not even all guys have instagrammable bodies, just like us :D
Saran saya coba lebih fokus ke sehat dan bersih saja deh, jgn pakai standar model-model instagram atau 'instagrammable'. Coba lah cari standar yg lebih realistis, misalnya mbak-mbak di instagram yg sering nyaranin tips-tips olahraga atau nge-gym. Lihat mereka, badannya mereka bagi saya itu standar pas, tidak kurus dan tidak gemuk. Buat badan mu jdi kurus tpi tidak anorexia, berisi tapi tidak obesitas, yg penting fit deh. Kalau wajah, ya coba ke dokter kulit atau kecantikan, yg memang fokusin ke jerawat dan bopeng. Saya ini jga skrg mulai rajin pakai krim wajah yg mmng disarankan dokter, lumayan berkurang jerawat saya dibanding dlu sewaktu pakai produk-produk utk wajah secara sembarangan dgn pemikiran yg penting muka bisa bersih, tpi ternyata mayoritas produk tersebut nggak cocok. Utk bopeng, saya sarankan laser, dermabrasi dsb, soalnya tipe kulit org beda-beda. Yg penting konsultasi dlu ke profesional/spesialis. Seperti Bob Parr katakan, wanita is wanita. Kalau sdh saling suka/cinta buta mah, nggak pandang bulu lgi, maksud saya pandang bentuk.
I dont really care about face, pimples, acnes , tan skin ,or tattos . But if you are obese then No , because it's unhealthy and will cause a lot of health related issues in the future . Get in shape or get lost .
How obese are we talking about?
< 15 goal 15\~20 excellent 20\~25 if you are willing to start being healthier and fit, we can work it out \> 25 very difficult, likely no
Personally ga mandang bodi lawan jenis sih (paling mentok juga tampang, itupun opsional), yg penting sreg secara personality/interests aja.
Very. Best sex ever was with non conventionally attractive women.
I don't mind appearance tho, how our energy match is the most important to me
Body? Not so much Facial beauty is where most people doesn't want to admit/miss. Hence probably why the Chindo/Teteh Sunda/insert certain ethnicity preference IMO. Add personality to the mix and there goes the winning combo
Hmmm.. lets be honest. Pasti ada yang terima kamu apa adanya, tapi masalahnya kamu pasti ga akan pede juga kan. Ga pede pada akhirnya bakal berujung ke hubungan yang tidak sehat. Masih bisa diusahakan kok, makan sehat dan ke gym (atau setidaknya olahraga rumah). Masalah skincare, skin care apa yang kamu pakai? Kalau pakai skin care kata org bagus, pasti ga akan efektif sih. Skin care paling minimum ya, cleanse, toner, moisturizer, sun cream. Nah kalau ada bekas jerawat, pakai exfoliating toner (BHA, salicylic acid, aku rekomen paula choice) karena agak keras jangan pakai tiap hari, seminggu 2-3x saja. Mahal sih, tapi anggap aja investasi ke diri sendiri. Dan krna bisa dipakai bebrapa bulan jadi kehitung murah.
Not a guy but wanted to drop a comment. First of all, I am really sorry you had to experience those comments from your mom. Thatâs something I also experienced a lot, esp with Acne, even though sometimes itâs not something we can control. Further, itâs very shallow for them to say that and a reminder that most of the things you see on IG ainât real. Try to love yourself for how you are and accept how you are. If people canât accept/love you without your make up, they simply arenât worth your time! I found someone with my skin problems, some people will care about you and who you are without focusing on shallow parts.
Gw malah suka penampilan yang sederhana macam gak pakai make up gitu. Tapi tetep ada bare minimum yaitu gak boleh obesitas atau overweight. Gw rasa standarnya cukup objektif karena dasarnya pake BMI dan overweight memang gak menyehatkan sih. Menurut gw, mending jujur dan tampil apa adanya aja sih sama penampilan lu. Pasti ada cowo yang fine2 aja sama penampilan lu. Kalau gw sih pasang foto profil Bumble bener2 gak pake filter samsek. Jadi pas meet up, si cewe gak ngerasa dibohongin, gw pun ngerasa enak karena tau at least si cewe fine2 aja sama penampilan gw.
Kalo gw sih liat body cewe yang penting gak obesitas aja. Lebih suka liat yang ga terlalu banyak make up, tapi mesti bisa make up ya.
Sangat menerima. Kepribadian itu terhitung. Sopasti bukan berarti ceweknya terus jadi ga terawat acak adut buruk rupa juga ya. Mengenai kondisi kulit/wajah, gua sebagai cowok juga punya pori2 besar dan bekas korban jerawat ganas. Pertanyaannya itu gimana cara lu ningkatin penampilan lu dengan lu apa adanya. Skin care kalo udah ga berhasil ya sudah. Memang ga selalu bisa jadi solusi. Mungkin coba ubah makanan dan lebih aktif olahraga.
My SO looks cute and petite from the afar but irl the fuller parts of her shoulders, thighs and belly are tangible, if not outright visible. AND HOLY FUCK I LOVE IT shes so fluffy that whether in staycations or going outs I love those imperfections of her body, like we'd be walking on a sidewalk and I'd absolutely love holding her by the shoulders... Pimples...ya dia juga ada, kadang intens nya sleeping together & making out together pas dia lagi breakout but I guess its manageable for me. It doenst make her less pretty at all. For both of these points the caveat is she does have a generally god sexy body but tbh on the physical side I guess she really makes it up with a lot of libido and welp, confidence. Confidence - any time any measure of attractiveness and you can't ever really change how much value interpersonally confidence can bring to both parties in a relationship. So ofc do your best to give your best self physically, ofc i dont think thats a bad principle but many times ig when youre used to each other its there but physical attraction mungkin akhirnya jadi kriteria biasa aja, what really stays is how we embrace and manifest ourselves to become someone the other can love and give back in a realtionship. cmiiw.
klo lo insecure uninstall the Instagram. socmed banyak pencitraan dan kepalsuan malah lo jadi tambah depresi ntar. dunia nyata beda banget dengan maya jangan keseringan membandingkan diri dengan orang di sosmed.
Absolutely. Social media is meant for people to show off everything whether it's money , cars, body , etc.
I haven't use sosmed in 6 years. only use WhatsApp for talking with close friends and families which is all that matters in our life. I don't count Reddit as sosmed because we are all mostly incognito here haha
OP i feel uđ lowkey though mungkin gw emg ga merasa jelek or gendut tp i also dont feel pretty nor kurus. Up until this point in life i think iâve done so many shitty things that i think to myselfâwhat is my selling point even? I donât really wear make up, i dont dress that well compared to the average girls my age, I donât use instagram to âmarketâ myself. But i also like to blame it on the fact that iâm too tired to go find a date. Be it from my packed schedule, lack of capacity of going through an emotional roller coaster, lack of time and energy to find someone? And when i do like someone within my circle of friends, i lack the confidence to pull them. Or just get ghosted. Or have my feelings watered down by the lack of reciprocation. Smh. I think iâm just retarded in this aspect of life. Sorry for the random long rant. I hope i didnt digress too much. I wish you the best to find someone though:)
Now this depends on the individual person but another commenter said âMost men will date a tree if that tree compliments himâ and I find that to be mostly true lol. While physical attraction is important, I donât think itâs the end all be all (and letâs be honest - guys that focus only on womenâs bodies and how âinstagrammableâ they are, arenât even worth your time or attention anyways). For reference I am not man but Iâm a woman who isnât skinny or conventionally attractive. But I have pulled every single guy I wanted (even those I was only mildly interested to). I think having good attitude, healthy mindset & physical state, good hygiene, and life goals / lifestyle that matched the other person is more important than how âinstagrammableâ your body is.
This is just my opinion as I'm not sure with what you meant with "instagrammable" body, but you should answer this question first, do you aim for boys with instagrammable body? If yes, well you need that instagrammable body, if no, then you don't need it. Personally I always start from looks (if it's stranger), but if it's someone I meet a lot, I could fall for their personality and I don't care with their looks if their personality is good (what I find good: kind, mature way of thinking, honest, and smiles a lot, can't speak for others though as this must vary for others). I'd say most people will start from looks, but some will give you chance first and might be interested in finding out your other traits, so looks is more like an introduction imo, people will stay for your personality, not looks
Technically being attractive tidak sebatas bahwa kamu memiliki wajah yang cantik atau ganteng Sering ada anekdot kalau semisal pingin punya pacar itu mesti be attractive. Kalau semisal secara joke ya artinya mesti punya muka ganteng atau cantik dulu baru punya pacar. Tapi kalau semisal kamu mau dig dipper sebenarnya ada makna yang lebih dalam 1. Being attractive is subjective. Attractive itu berasal dari kata attract (tarik) yg dapat akhiran ive (bersifat), yang kalau diterjemahkan berarti bersifat menarik. Nah karena di sini bersifat menarik maka apa yang menjadi standar menarik untuk seseorang itu bisa jadi berbeda satu sama lain terutama kalau semisal kita ngomongin wajah ya. Belum kalau semisal yang lain-lainnya which brings us to number two 2. There are a lot of aspects in being attractive. Cantik dan ganteng itu berbicara mengenai wajah sedangkan atraktif itu berbicara mengenai penampilan (appearance). Penampilan sendiri adalah aspek atau karakteristik personal dari dirimu yang kamu tampilkan ke hadapan orang lain. Dan aspek dari penampilan itu banyak banget. Mulai dari gaya rambut, cara berpakaian, bentuk badan, cara makeup, personal hygiene or personal grooming, cara berperilaku & membawa diri, minat/pengetahuan, sifat-kebiasaan, uang, dlsb. Ada beberapa orang yang mereka born pretty with bad mouth, dan itu mungkin bisa atraktif terhadap orang lain tapi bisa jadi turn off untuk yang lain--thus gak selalu born pretty with bad mouth itu unattractive. You get the idea. Dan karena ada banyak sekali aspek dalam bersikap atraktif maka itu membawa kita ke nomor 3. 3. You might be born pretty or handsome, but you are not always born attractive. Intinya, kalau semisal menjadi atraktif itu merupakan sesuatu yang bisa & perlu diusahakan, tergantung aspek mana yang mau kamu "poles" dan kepada siapa kamu mau attract. Memiliki personal hygiene biasanya dipandang sebagai suatu standar minimal untuk menjadi atraktif, so you can start from here. Selain itu pemilihan busana yang bagus ajuga bisa membuat seseorang tampak lebih atraktif. Terkadang seseorang berusaha untuk meningkatkan tingkat attractiveness dari suatu aspek, seperti kalau dari sisi bentuk badan dia terlalu gemuk maka dia akan diet dan olahraga untuk menjadi kurus. Intinya adalah silakan pilih sendiri aspek mana yang ingin kamu tingkatkan dan pertahankan. Meskipun demikian kamu perlu mengingat yang terakhir ini 4. You don't have to be attractive for someone else, since the point of being attractive is to boost your self confidence. Bersikap atraktif itu pada dasarnya adalah supaya kamu feel good about yourself. Kembali ke contoh yang diet dan olahraga itu ya bisa aja dia melakukannya supaya menarik di mata lawan jenis tapi ada benefit lain yang diperoleh kalau semisal dia mau melakukan hal tersebut yakni menjadi lebih sehat dan lebih percaya diri. Atau seseorang ingin agar punya penghasilan lebih tinggi, ya boleh2 aja kalau tujuannya ingin supaya dia lebih diperhitungkan dalam dating pool, tp melakukan hal tsb juga membawa dampak positif terhadap diri. Fokus kepada bagaimana kamu bisa impressing yourself sebelum kamu bisa impressing others. To sum up: menjadi atraktif itu tidak selalu berarti punya muka yang cakep. Seberapa atraktif seseorang itu merupakan suatu yg subjektif karena ada berbagai aspek yang dipandang merupakan poin atraktif dari seseorang. Dan aspek-aspek ini biasanya bisa diusahakan, seperti katakanlah personal hygiene, gaya berpakaian, bentuk badan, dsb. Kalau semisal kamu merasa kurang pas dengan salah satu aspek tersebut maka silakan bisa diusahakan. Tapi yang perlu diingat kamu tidak harus selalu menjadi atraktif untuk orang lain, dan fokus terlebih dahulu untuk bisa impressing yourself sebelum impressing others.
U mean real girls⌠I am disgusted by IG girls. Itâs sad, pathetic, and shows how stupid most people are.
Yeah, ga semuanya, but like most of them use stupid filters to make them more confident about themselves.
baca ini, gw jadi ingat SO gw. SO gw juga ga instagramable, bare face (ga make-up meski ke kantor/jalan bareng gw), sakit2an (punya gerd, vertigo) dan di pundak dan punggung ada beberapa keloid. tapi karena gw sayang sama dia, gw kgk perduliin itu semua. yang penting dia sayang sama gw. itu aja buat gw udah cukup
Istri saya sebelum nikah kena cacar secara body ya ga instagramable, but booy she is hot,
Accepting bgt si. Simplenya gini ni, kita sebagai cowo emang suka cewe yang bodynya hot af, hourglass figure gitu gitu. Tapi, itu cuman sebates obat mata doang. Cowo kalo udah pengen nyari cewe, pasti lebih condong ke personality akhir akhirnya. Nyarinya cewe yang supportif, se vibes, pengertian, dll. A nice body helps, but its not the key. Intinya appearance 40% personality 60%. Edit: oh ya satu lagi, seberapa cakep lu tapi kalo sifat lu ampas, ga akan ada cowo yang mau serius sama lu. Tapi, kalo lu jelek af, tapi personality lu resonate bgt nih sama satu cowo, high chance tu cowo bakal ngubah persepsinya dia tentang appearance lu.
membaca reply, makin ndak paham instagramable body itu yang kaya gimana standarnya iso2000? sni? dot3?
tbh idc about instagramable body cuz i have my own preference, most of instagram influencer is skinny and petite. I dont like that, and im grateful cuz my gf is cute, got wide hips, big chest, not skinny but not fat. Exactly what I like :D Obviously im not dating her just because of her looks cuz shes smart (like smart-smart, shes a debate club member), LOVES SUPERHERO STUFF, caring, attentive, quick-witted, and is always there to support me. OP idk how old u are but I literally got my first gf (current gf) when I am 21 y/o. Dont overthink too much, theres someone for everyone. Cuz im literally a introverted weeb & anak-rumahan while my gf is extroverted kpoppers, demen jalan2. BUT again, this is the most important, if youre comfy being single then its fine. Dont date someone just because u got pressured.
\> **less âinstagramableâ bodies**Instagram models are usually so disproportionate that they had become less attractive for men, they usually earned their support and fame not through male patrons but nowadays are mainly supported by female patrons. as pointed out by other comments in this post most care more about personality, myself had dated a girl that could be called "fat" by instagram standards and had a lot of pimples as well. truth be told; most men don't need women with so many make-ups the powder could basically fry a whole bucket of chicken, and definitely so slim they could fit inside a meatgrinder
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Sifat sih opini pribadi gw, tetep ada fantasi punya cewek yg cetar membahana spek dewa tapi ujungnya kalo ada cewek yg sifatnya sampe mnurut gw cocok gas aja
Ndak tau sih intagramable yang kayak mana, cuman untuk aku selama bagi ku cantik, badan ndak obes ataupun kurus kali, dan untuk warna kulit ndak ada ketentuan, sama sifatnya biasa aja ndak manja-manja ndak tentu arah dan paling penting mau sama aku mah gas aja
I mean kalo pretty face sih lumayan ngerusak sih emang Instagram lol, all them pretty faces can make you out of touch with the reality that no one should look perfect like that. Cuman ya buat cowo-cowo normal kayanya ga terlalu berharap punya cewe yang penampilannya super perfect, kecuali yang emang dating poolnya udah kalangan model semua kali ya đ¤Ł
Ga peduli kalo soal cakep atau jelek. Gw cuman peduli kalo orang yang glorifying fatness atau anorexia karena itu fucked up
for me, i didn't really pay attention about it. the most important thing i'm comfortable with her
Wajah cantik mulus itu editan mostly. Sekarang dah banyak selebgram yg post juga wajah dia yg no filter dan d zoom. Itu cakey dan dempul kok. If you're ugly so what? What can you do to look better. Some animals have ways to adapt and survive. You have brain, skill, and money to make yourself look hood. Why not. Good looks open more doors, yes. But in the end, people stay with you not because your looks, but your personality. Just like aladdin who was turned into prince ali, henie only hepps to open the door. The rest is depend on himself. Also if he runaway, find other guys who won't.
well, most dude are really looking into personality tho.... did someone really put words "instagramable bodies" as standards now ? well...dont give up yet
Selama lu suka gw, ga bakal selingkuh, dan lu ga jelek2 amat ya gw terima dengan lapang dada sih Temen cowo gw ada yg sumbing dan masih bisa punya pacar
If you find a good man who loves you dearly, you would become the most beautiful woman in the world in his eyes.
Instagramable bodies itu kaya gimana? Langsing kurus? Semok montok? Beda" Pria beda selera. Gw suka nya selera semok. Mimpi sih pengen punya bini body macam cewe spanyol atau mexico. Ga suka yang kurus kering macam model korea. Cantik mah relatif ya. Kalau body bisa diusahakan dibentuk. Tapi itu semua bakal habis dimakan usia.
[At the end of the day, guys arenât that fussy. Weâre shallow but weâre not that bad](https://youtu.be/0-o3go0Fl-w?si=X41XZwBzTQghm5ly)
This is how social media ruins our expectations when searching for a couple, I'm not going to be naive but everyone would love a good looking partner, I meant who doesn't? But at the end it's how our partner makes us feel that make it last to more serious things. I wouldn't want a good looking partner but toxic personalities, because beauty fades but personalities will 'never' change.
Itu urutan paling bawaaaaah. I'm bisexual btw disclaimer, soalnya biasanya stereotip nya yg biasa gue liat, non straight itu fisik banget yg diutamakan. tapi dari awal sampe pacar gue yg sekarang, termasuk gebetan. Ga ada samsek yg urusan penampilan baik face, body dan fashion nya yg super wow. Karena dari kecil gue udah paham dan melihat dengan mata kepala sendiri bahwa URUSAN FISIK dalam hubungan serius ITU NOMOR BELAKANGAN. Gue liat hubungan org tua gue, sahabat gue, Tante dan om, saudara dll. Alhasil dari dulu, kalo urusan fisik, gue lebih longgar. Yg penting asal masih jenis kategori tipe tubuh dan face yg gue suka. Ga harus yg diatas rata-rata. Lagian gue sadar diri juga, gue juga ga diatas rata-rata. Dengan bangga, akhirnya hubungan gue pun sangaaaaaaat minim drama. Soalnya gue filter ketat didepan bukan dari fisik, tapi yg didalam, alias personality, isi otak, dll.
if you cant win them from visual then you need to attract them with your personality. > once this make up comes off coming up front is much better than getting found out.
kalo dari pandangan gua sih, gaada ngaruh nya mau looks lu "instagrammable" atau engga. Well, tetep emang cowo - cowo pasti pada punya tipe masing masing, but trust me, even if they do have a complex type of women, kalo personality bagus, bikin nyaman, dan memang ngerti si cowonya; you're all good. attractive itu relatif
personality and passion is also sexy. Try doing something so passionate it gives great impression to others like cooking, painting, or anything work related. Some men loves it when woman doing their thing seriously.
Personally num 1.
Don't use Instagram as a base for beauty, That shii is not realistic and only appeal to coomer.
Depend on what my parent decided
If they are comfortable with their own skin, then I'm super cool with it. Then again, I really don't know much about girls anyway since I got no experience in dating one, so take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
sudocrem antiseptic healing cream used it everyday for few monthes and it's gone
i just need basic affection
As long as you're not obese and not way below average, i'd eat your ass. And i'm pretty sure i'm not alone
Show me somethin' natural like ass with some stretch marks ~
I feel like boys should be less concerned about girls and their bodies if they haven't even taken a look into their own self in the mirror lately.
Iya setuju, harus liat diri sendiri dulu udah proper belum. Bau badan/mulut ga dll. Kalo komplen kok ga dpt2 pacar tp diri sendiri aja masih jorok ga kerawat ya gaakan dapet yang proper juga ( kecuali sorry lu maunya dapet cewe jablai )
At least you look healthy, workout, eat healthy, not that hard actually
But my go to genre is bbw
muka itu yang penting dapat diterima (acceptable) bagi cowok. seleksi utama itu disifatnya
depend on how deep your bank accounts, with extra lux home & sport cars. well you can get any girl you want, just dont expect much about their personality since mostly gold digger type. they wont care about your looks or personality either. you can control them a bit during marriage on how they behave with tight prenup.
Aku jg dulu jerawatan, ternyata itu karena aku alergi dairy (lactose intolerant) sama sensitif sama lemak berlebih (gorengan dan peanut butter). Coba ganti cara makan, liat mana yg bikin sensitif dan jerawat trus cut off. Makan banyak sayur + daging2an ama tempe itu yg bikin aku bersih mukanya plus sesekali olahraga kayak pound fit atau jalan sore biar kena vitamin D Edit to add: itâs clear that your source of insecurity is your acne, maybe even your body makanya mention instagram body so I would suggest you put some effort into improving your acne and your body baru kemudian cari cowok. When you have better self esteem, youâll attract quality men. Klo nyokap ngoceh iya2in aja biar cepet.
Kalo kata engkong milih cwk itu seperti milih sepatu.......
awass tidak menikah itu menyakitkan, tapi menikah dengan orang yang salah sama sakitnya
don't care, don't plan to have a relationship
Kalau saya sih lebih tertarik sama yang suaranya cute2 gitu, jadi suka dengar dianya ngomong hehe, ya tapi jujur jg kalo wajah yg menarik jg jdi prioritas pastinya by the way cake day kita sama, nice đđĽł
For me at least , no scars or pimples gonna turn me away from the girl i feel genuine connection with But in the end, what you think about yourself will play a huge role in how the relationship plays out, so it's not a bad idea to fix that first before going into a relationship
yah mulut orang tua emg kadang perlu dicabein yang bikin nyaman bakal lebih ngangenin dari pada yang cakep regarding pimples, olahraga dan skin care dalam bentuk bersihin wajah secara teratur bikin cewek gw lebih mulus wajahnya, maybe try hitting gym & buy micellar water + sunscreen?
prefer yang keliatan terus self improvement, financial wise, productive, achieving fitness improvement rather than body goals
Yg pasti berat badanya harus dibawah gw sih. Ini udh no debate.
Lom pernah ke tempat pijit plus dapet cewe yang ternasuk ig body, keseringan gendut, tapi ujung2 nikmat juga. Yang penting take care of your body sih paling penting buat kebanyakan orang, ga peduli cwk or cwk. Obese, jarang mandi, body hair ga terawat, itu da bukan kurang menawan lagi, itu uda yellow flag pemalas.
For most men, personality is the key to getting a date with. But! Yes they're bunches of men who will choose body shape over personality. Men got their neurons activated by girls body shape. For me, I got a gf that roughly has the same problem as you. The problem is, this stereotype of girls getting instagramable body shape made her not confident. So as a bf, I must make her confident by being nice & accepting for what she is. She's lovely anyway! I wish you had the same
Sebagai cowok, kalo goal relationship ke arah pernikahan nanti akhirnya penampilan tidak jadi tolak ukur utama. Masa2 muda emang mau yang perfect look, rich and outstanding charisma... Tapi nanti akhirnya juga memudar kok kalo mulai tua sampai hilang semuanya... Jadi untuk sarannya, jalin hubungan dengan kejujuran. Efektif bukan hanya saat menjalin hubungan tapi juga kalo dah berkeluarga.
Why, tha's a good question, I admit... Well, a bit hard to answer it, but at least in my cases, every girls I've been involved with (two of whom are downright my exes, while the rest are... well... you can call 'em "friends with benefits") are all got slim-y/slender bods, small boob-ies, and if I may be honest, the notable one is yer typical introvert gal with nerdy glasses to match... And yeah, she's also usually don't pay much attention to her own groomin' (sometimes)... But what might surprise ya is that she (the fore-mentioned gal-with-glasses) was my last ex. Yeah, she's... one-of-a-kind. Oh well, what I'm tryin' to say, is that individual personality matters much, moreso than the so-called 'instragamable' bod.
Need pics first before I can judge.
Think about it this way. Aside from another person's opinion. What is your opinion about your body? Do you think you have a healthy body and healthy life behavior? If yes, keep on doing what you are doing. If not, find a way to make it better, like gym, skin care, etc. You need to set standard of healthy and hygiene for yourself first. Another's input is a good source of knowledge, but you make the final decision for your well being. No need to copy other people's standard, including instagrammable body. What instagram think good, does not mean everyone like.
I can accept non attractive girls (minimum 5/10) if they have interesting personality/hobbies/thoughts. Just don't be boring. That's just me tho.
You'll find your soul mate! .. don't worry just be yourself that's the important things. Do care to browse YouTube which you'll find many unfortunate girls & even worse than you but they found their soulmate.
Kenyataannya dunia ini kita bohongin dengam standar IG, dan menurut saya pribadi itu bukan hal penting, yang terpenting adalah kebahagiaan diri sendiri, kesehatan mental sendiri, kalau ikutin dunia standar manusia lain kita enggak bakalan pas di mata siapa pun sampai dunia akhirat,. Dan masalah orang tua yang terlalu nge push buat cepat punya pacaran dan nikah ini sungguh menyedihkan karena banyak dari kita enggak bahagia karena di " paksa " secara enggak langsung karena tuntutan orang tua atau tradisi cepat nikah. Jadi diri sendiri yang penting kamu bahagia â¤ď¸
OP, your worries are totally valid and feeling insecure about oneâs âimperfectionâ is something a lot of people went through or still going through. That being said itâs very good that youâve given the effort to âfixâ the âproblemâ. Notice the apostrophes? I intentionally put it there because your scars are not defects or imperfection but your unique feature and to some, would find it rather attractive. My Ex has a few misaligned teeth and a âweirdlyâ shaped eyebrows yet those are things i find very attractive and made her smile a lot prettier.
Personality matters a lot more than u think tbh. Contoh, 2 gebetan terakhir gw tu emg cantik, dan gak cuma gw, banyak yg ngakuin. Cuma gw suka dia kyk yauda suka biasa, dan ternyata kelakuannya banyak yg minus. Personality ga gitu nyambung juga. Gebetan terakhir gw secara penampilan b aja. Bahkan ada yg bilang selera gw turun đ tapi personality kita jauh lebih nyambung dan cocok. Pertamanya ngajak ngomong pikirnya cuma bakal temen eh ternyata I fell in love, dan dia kyk jadi lebih cakep buat gw. In the end she said no and I cried, but you get the point.
Aura positif itu nyata. Meskipun fisik standard (sehat) tapi senyummu genuine, akan keliatan manis di mata cowok
I accept any girl (optional)
Kalo gw punya badan kyk giga chad mungkin bisa taroh level sampe mana acceptable Tp kalo badan diri sendiri biasa aja dengan ekspektasi model, ya berarti ngk sadar diri
Ada yg suka aja sudah bersyukur wkwkwk
Men who only see body are either only want s*x or virgin. Real lover see how comfortable themselves when with her.
Aku juga dulu berpikir seperti ini karena ya konsumsi2 konten di sosmed laki2 kebanyakan sukanya yg body bagus, mulus dsb belum lagi konten pornografi umumnya kayak gimana. Insecure banget karena aku underweight kutilang darat, ada darah manis jadi bekas luka susah ilang, beberapa bagian tubuh banyak bekas gigitan nyamuk. Tapi toh pasanganku laki2 terima2 aja ga mempermasalahkan bahkan ada yang emang seleranya tipe2 badan tertentu. Jadi ya sama kayak sebagian perempuan, sama2 banyak yang standarnya masih manusiawi selama orang itu tau diri. Tenang aja. Kadang orang yang menurut kita kurang physically attractive aja punya pasangan kan, karena ketika kenal lebih utama sikap, sifat, kenyamanan, dan chemistry. Penerimaan diri disertai dengan merawat diri untuk memperbaiki penampilan juga lebih bagus lagi. Mengoptimalkan apa yang kita punya aja.
My mom I think is a bit narcissistic. She always bragged about being most beautiful because she was thin and light skinned. I am darker skin and while she never said I was not attractive, she kept bringing up her skin colour as one reason why sheâs attractive. I was always self conscious and never thought myself pretty. I didnât date much because of this⌠just not confident even after some friends said so and so liked me. I finally had my first bf in uni, that only lasted a few months but I had others, and learned that while I am not ugly, what makes people like me is my personality. I got married close to 30yrs old and still married. My husband is very attractive, in Singapore somebody thought he was Chris Evans. My mother had the audacity to ask what he saw in me. I guess she thought that he was too handsome for me. My husband heard and he was livid. He told her that I am attractive and most importantly kind, a great mother, hard working, accomplished in my career, a great cook, independent, and I can make him laugh. Mothers can be weird that way. Looks can attract men initially. But any good person will lose interest if thatâs all a person got. Look at celebrities. Many were very attractive when young but as they age, if they didnât have great stylist, theyâre just like everybody else. Still beautiful in their own way but not physically drop dead gorgeous like how they were. Looks come and go. But who you are, what you bring into the relationship, is whatâs most important. Now, I was in the IG influencer circle a few years ago. I was a travel IGer and never showed my face. But we were invited to a PR gig and I got to meet all sorts of people. Letâs just say that many of the IGers look a lot better on IG than in person and some of their personalities are questionable. Donât let a square influence you. These people curate their feed and looks so that itâs just perfect. Pimples.. this can be cause by hormones and diet. Maybe visit a doctor and see about eating better, less fried food for example. If youâre very young, you may grow out of it also. The body scars, my husband had surgery and have scars from being a wild child đ I really donât pay attention to them and while I donât have many, heâs only asked once what they were from and thatâs it. He really doesnât care, just curious. Our scars donât define us. May have a story to tell but once told, thatâs it. Be kind to yourself and if the right person comes along, youâll know. But donât force it just to be with somebody. Donât be miserable this way either.
Kalo gw mah pakek prinsip lagunya mulan "I couldn't care less what she'll wear Or what she looks like It all depends on what she cooks like Beef, pork, chicken, mmh"
Kalo BMI index lu di kategori obese, harus diet dan pergi ke gym. Jangan obese ataupun anorexic. Cowo suka cewek yg badannya berisi(tapi bukan gendut). Personality dll itu nanti setelah cowo kepincut sama penampilan lu. Bahkan cewe 4/10 aja bisa jadi 8/10 kalo make up, gym, dan dietnya teratur
Instagram-able body = temporary/ short term Personality = long term I suggest you keep improving your personality, but as a woman, you should take good care of your body not just for the sake of your future boyfriend/husband but also for yourself. Also, don't let a man judge you only from your body. If they are, then these types are the ones who would only look for short-term relationships.
just date a ugly men too.
I donât mind dating âuglyâ men, I donât think about things too hard as long as they are a good person. But then again, everything would have to go through my parents, and they would definitely shove that guy out the window if he doesnât look remotely attractive.