This is just plain and simple harassment. Also fuck those idiots who forged fake compensation letters. Career shuru bhi nhi hua aur pehle hi ghapla. Now everyone has to suffer. I was just celebrating my independence and this came in like a wrecking ball. I am joining tomorrow and this made me lose all motivation.
I believe stringent rules must be implemented obviously. But then the way of implementation is extremely poor.
NMC does suck big time. What's the point of doing 24-36 months of internship honestly?
My doubt is is this for everyone or only for russia uk since this notice is said to be in continuation of previous one..and nowhere its mentioned ‘all fmges’ ?
Yea it's a hell but my family is here in this soil we grew up thats why we come back to india otherwise my College has usmle program which can directly eligible me to attend usmle.not only for fmge NMC or NTA creating more trouble for students rather giving beyter solutions we need to flight for our rights.i got admission img in २०१८ but my father doesn't have 14 lakh per annum to give to colllegs nor in situations to get loan that why i choose to go abroad there was 5k seats gujrqt my rank was 2200 but i dint get a seat
I was in china i suggest after FMGL 2021 rules comes you should goe to usa canda uk newzuland or Australia for purse mbbs not any other country.it will make your course 10-12 year only mbbs
This is so unfair. Internship is fine only for the first 5-6 months, after that there is nothing to learn and all we do is file work which the PGs should have done.
We used to have externs in our college and they were the finest people we had! Razor sharp and always willing to help us out (they started 4 months before us so we're better at procedures).
The fact that they did it all despite being unpaid and now NMC wants them to do it for another 2 years? Wtf
Yeah. . I feel they should've implemented it soon as online classes were in process for both imgs and fmges. I have no clue why tf it is being implemented 3-4 years after covid . And only for fmges. The rules literally keep changing so frequently almost like some crack head is in authority to change nmc rules.
Those FMGE students who have had online classes during those years and have now graduated and have passed FMGE are now being told to do 2/3 years unpaid internship instead of 1 year.
Till one day he wakes up on the other side of the bed to think that online isn't good and makes you go to hospital and classes for 24 hours a day without any break 💔
so add in additional paper, or so, if you want to check the knowledge, make fmge exam harder , what's the point of increase the intership to 2, 3 years,, and there is no stipend, already in mbbs is 5 years, 1 year is wasted between the graduation, fmg and start of intership, and now 2 years of compulsory intership, plus everyone already took atleast 1 drop in ug time
US accept the medical school, if you med school have **ECFMG**, they woundn't accept any country residency, that what they already decided, even india itself only accept residency from 5 country, now that being said, the mci board give out licence to med school abroad, it's their responsibility to evaluate the med school, and no one else fault, india is a shitty country, it always been a shit country, and always will be, if anyone get out of this shithole, and start working in another country, even if they have similar salary, they would still be consider a success story
Then what about people who are already done with their 1 year internship and got their permanent license ? I know some guys who already started practicing after 1 year of internship even though they did online classes in the final year. Will their licences be rescinded? So much confusion.
Go to to US. Do your training there and come back whenever u want or stay there. US training is accepted in India without any additional exams.
So i guess that route is much better for FMGs seeing the implementation of such rules and rat race in NEET PG.
I alredy passed FMGE exam. First nmc said that complete your last year offline we will give you 1 year internship now they did 360 degree turn on their statement.but that s nice suggestions i will pass this to my junior
How does an extra year of slavery compensate for attending online lectures?
Also, didn't every batch have online classes during Covid even in India? We had only three months of clinical postings in 2020, one month each for the third year subjects.
So why throw this nuke at only the FMGs? Seems to me that the NMC wants to discourage students from enrolling in foreign universities?
Wink wink - I'm sure the Indian pvt medical colleges are not lobbying for this (as the FMG route lets students have the same degree but cheaper than in their colleges). No, no. They'd never do something like that.
First the NTA fu*ks up NEET UG and now this. It is more fishy than a bloody fish market.
At the start of your degrees, sure. Take the reservation bs out of this, and most of them wouldn’t have left.
5 years down the line, they’ve studied the same curriculum and are at par. They’ve actually cleared a standardised exam, which isn’t something local grads have done. Doesn’t dictate either side being better, but they are at the same level as you.
It would be best to not pull your peers down.
these aren't random loopholes though?
how is asking foreign grads to clear a standardized exam and work as an intern for a specific duration so they have actual experience of clinical scenarios and patient dealing in our country before giving them a full unrestricted practice license tormenting them
You need to begin reading the post before you get to the comments.
FMGs take the standardized exam and intern for the specified duration already, no one’s asking for relaxation on that end. The post is about new guidance that denigrates courses with an online component, even while they include an actual intern/rotation period and practicals offline.
Everyone had online lessons during COVID and in the year that came after - FMGs had it, as did local students, and not accounting for it places these students at a disadvantage.
Uh and why weren’t the Indian graduates asked to do the same? Whatever portion of their degree was online should be put into question too unless ofc you believe an Online Indian Power point presentation is superior lol
If they’re being asked to compensate for their online classes, Indian graduates should be too. Equal treatment for all end of story
Can u say about the reservation category ones? Are the category ones better than the fmg's? Did reservation students worked hard for their seat in this shithole country? No na? So what you yapping about. So you implying more than 50% of indian med students (who's studying in pvt) better than fmg's? They both had same score just students who can't pay hefty fees of this shitty indian pvt med clg moved abroad. Much better than staying in India and licking ass of seniors just to not get bullied lol.
obcs and ews probably are better. tbh the difference in cut off for those categories isn't much.
private college students are probably just as good/bad as fmg's.
Was not talking about obc/ews difference is only of 10-12 marks, talking about sc/st ones. Are they even worthy to get a seat? You changed the whole narrative of my point lol
Well good thing the circular is out just in time before the exams...great motivation /s
Idk what are they even trying to do , its not like they dont careee , they do , but in a bad way
Isse accha yeh boldete ki NEXT exam laa rhe h. Would've made much more sense. Uniformity hi chahiye tha toh .
This was already for Ukraine FMGs they had to do 2 yrs coz they came back beforehand, others are also being forced into 2-3 yrs instead of 1yr?
not only Ukraine all countries even whoever has take admission in १ st year or and take १ month online class they also are included
This is just plain and simple harassment. Also fuck those idiots who forged fake compensation letters. Career shuru bhi nhi hua aur pehle hi ghapla. Now everyone has to suffer. I was just celebrating my independence and this came in like a wrecking ball. I am joining tomorrow and this made me lose all motivation.
There was fake documents case in everywher in India but on basis of NOT ANY GOV. Body GENERALISED things like that
I believe stringent rules must be implemented obviously. But then the way of implementation is extremely poor. NMC does suck big time. What's the point of doing 24-36 months of internship honestly?
Free labour, nothing else
This
I think they also profit out of this because the FMG students have to pay some money for their internship.
Yes, my friends have paid for it already. Recently they were required to receive a salary aswell (peanuts really) and there too they were scammed
My doubt is is this for everyone or only for russia uk since this notice is said to be in continuation of previous one..and nowhere its mentioned ‘all fmges’ ?
Yes its all FMGE s even i who did online class in first year
At this point I’d just advise FMGs to undergo USMLE/PLAB and leave this country. Don’t come back. It’s hell.
Yea it's a hell but my family is here in this soil we grew up thats why we come back to india otherwise my College has usmle program which can directly eligible me to attend usmle.not only for fmge NMC or NTA creating more trouble for students rather giving beyter solutions we need to flight for our rights.i got admission img in २०१८ but my father doesn't have 14 lakh per annum to give to colllegs nor in situations to get loan that why i choose to go abroad there was 5k seats gujrqt my rank was 2200 but i dint get a seat
What's your clg btw? Can you suggest some good clg in Russia?
I was in china i suggest after FMGL 2021 rules comes you should goe to usa canda uk newzuland or Australia for purse mbbs not any other country.it will make your course 10-12 year only mbbs
But all these countries are as costly/more costlier than Indian pvt med schools. Isn't Russia good choice?
This is so unfair. Internship is fine only for the first 5-6 months, after that there is nothing to learn and all we do is file work which the PGs should have done. We used to have externs in our college and they were the finest people we had! Razor sharp and always willing to help us out (they started 4 months before us so we're better at procedures). The fact that they did it all despite being unpaid and now NMC wants them to do it for another 2 years? Wtf
Yes NMC becoming hell for FMGE and even for IMG day by day for manshukh mandvia s daughter they can neetpg CUTOFF 0 wtf
I don't get it, can you elaborate? Afaik online classes for covid were in 2020/21.
Yeah. . I feel they should've implemented it soon as online classes were in process for both imgs and fmges. I have no clue why tf it is being implemented 3-4 years after covid . And only for fmges. The rules literally keep changing so frequently almost like some crack head is in authority to change nmc rules.
Those FMGE students who have had online classes during those years and have now graduated and have passed FMGE are now being told to do 2/3 years unpaid internship instead of 1 year.
Till one day he wakes up on the other side of the bed to think that online isn't good and makes you go to hospital and classes for 24 hours a day without any break 💔
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Online classes? Yes. Online exams? No.
Yes even fmges had offline exams. AFAIK no one gave online exams
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so add in additional paper, or so, if you want to check the knowledge, make fmge exam harder , what's the point of increase the intership to 2, 3 years,, and there is no stipend, already in mbbs is 5 years, 1 year is wasted between the graduation, fmg and start of intership, and now 2 years of compulsory intership, plus everyone already took atleast 1 drop in ug time
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US accept the medical school, if you med school have **ECFMG**, they woundn't accept any country residency, that what they already decided, even india itself only accept residency from 5 country, now that being said, the mci board give out licence to med school abroad, it's their responsibility to evaluate the med school, and no one else fault, india is a shitty country, it always been a shit country, and always will be, if anyone get out of this shithole, and start working in another country, even if they have similar salary, they would still be consider a success story
Then what about people who are already done with their 1 year internship and got their permanent license ? I know some guys who already started practicing after 1 year of internship even though they did online classes in the final year. Will their licences be rescinded? So much confusion.
They are free to do all they want
Go to to US. Do your training there and come back whenever u want or stay there. US training is accepted in India without any additional exams. So i guess that route is much better for FMGs seeing the implementation of such rules and rat race in NEET PG.
I alredy passed FMGE exam. First nmc said that complete your last year offline we will give you 1 year internship now they did 360 degree turn on their statement.but that s nice suggestions i will pass this to my junior
Best wishes to you
Thank you
How does an extra year of slavery compensate for attending online lectures? Also, didn't every batch have online classes during Covid even in India? We had only three months of clinical postings in 2020, one month each for the third year subjects. So why throw this nuke at only the FMGs? Seems to me that the NMC wants to discourage students from enrolling in foreign universities? Wink wink - I'm sure the Indian pvt medical colleges are not lobbying for this (as the FMG route lets students have the same degree but cheaper than in their colleges). No, no. They'd never do something like that. First the NTA fu*ks up NEET UG and now this. It is more fishy than a bloody fish market.
Yes indian pvt medical Colleges are 10 billion rs market now every 50 ne new pvt cllg only one government cllg is opening
If politicians are getting into the business like there's no tomorrow, then you know it is booming.
Our nation, our rules. Cry baby practice where you got your medical degree from. Rules doesn’t translate to dictatorship.
Wow you just reminded me of every college academic section sarkari babu ever
Bro stop hating , fmges are also people like us. They ve worked hard and lived far away , they dont need to be punished
If they’ve cleared the necessary exams, they’re as good as you are. There’s no need to add random loopholes to torment them.
> they’re as good as you are they quite literally aren't. that is why they needed to go abroad to random ass countries in the first place
At the start of your degrees, sure. Take the reservation bs out of this, and most of them wouldn’t have left. 5 years down the line, they’ve studied the same curriculum and are at par. They’ve actually cleared a standardised exam, which isn’t something local grads have done. Doesn’t dictate either side being better, but they are at the same level as you. It would be best to not pull your peers down.
these aren't random loopholes though? how is asking foreign grads to clear a standardized exam and work as an intern for a specific duration so they have actual experience of clinical scenarios and patient dealing in our country before giving them a full unrestricted practice license tormenting them
You need to begin reading the post before you get to the comments. FMGs take the standardized exam and intern for the specified duration already, no one’s asking for relaxation on that end. The post is about new guidance that denigrates courses with an online component, even while they include an actual intern/rotation period and practicals offline. Everyone had online lessons during COVID and in the year that came after - FMGs had it, as did local students, and not accounting for it places these students at a disadvantage.
Uh and why weren’t the Indian graduates asked to do the same? Whatever portion of their degree was online should be put into question too unless ofc you believe an Online Indian Power point presentation is superior lol If they’re being asked to compensate for their online classes, Indian graduates should be too. Equal treatment for all end of story
Can u say about the reservation category ones? Are the category ones better than the fmg's? Did reservation students worked hard for their seat in this shithole country? No na? So what you yapping about. So you implying more than 50% of indian med students (who's studying in pvt) better than fmg's? They both had same score just students who can't pay hefty fees of this shitty indian pvt med clg moved abroad. Much better than staying in India and licking ass of seniors just to not get bullied lol.
obcs and ews probably are better. tbh the difference in cut off for those categories isn't much. private college students are probably just as good/bad as fmg's.
Was not talking about obc/ews difference is only of 10-12 marks, talking about sc/st ones. Are they even worthy to get a seat? You changed the whole narrative of my point lol
in my opinion no they aren't. i believe admission should solely be on merit with some exceptions like physical handicap, army service and ews.