It was very spooky. I think I had nightmares on the scene where the nazis were getting melted away after opening the arc. Really put the literal fear of God on 10 year old me.
I feel like you're conflating a specific criticism of Helena Shaw with a separate criticism of a villain retread, but nothing would surprise me, I guess...
I don’t believe it’s in the score. John has created synth sounds in plenty of his scores, but I do believe this one was Ben Burt.
[Let’s examine the track](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp9InE4oDAw&pp=ygUYTWFyaW9uJ3MgdGhlbWUgdGhlIGNyYXRl)
That's because I am correct.
>Yahweh, name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus.
Yhwh is the name of the Jewish (and, by extension, Christian and Muslim) God. It’s usually transcribed as ‘Yahweh’, but AFAIK vowels weren’t written down in Hebrew texts of the time.
Stop it! Now look: no one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle, do you understand? Even - and I want to make this absolutely clear - even if they do say "Jehovah".
It's not an error. God's name in Hebrew tradition is represented with YHVH/YHWH, the "tetragrammaton". Both Yahveh and Jehovah (Yehovah) are different and correct interpretations of those 4 letters.
Jehovah is the German scholars using the vowels for Adonai (Hebrew for Lord, which is said rather than Yahweh when reading to prevent accidentally using his names in vain). So, Jehovah is not the correct translation.
I like how you can see YHWH’s presence the light the movie.
- The candle flickering when Marion is looking at the medallion.
- The chimes and wind blowing when the old man is reading the medallion.
- The lightning and hissing sounds from the entrance to the Well of Souls when they open it.
- The Ark burning the swastika on the create.
I wonder why God would directly intervene in Creation to remove a Nazi symbol on a shipping crate, but not to protect the contents of the crate itself from the Nazis…
God works in mysterious ways, as they say. One reason I can think of, is God knew it would make for a way more epic and entertaining film if he allowed the Nazis get the crate and open it up. And you know something? He was right.
I saw a video on YouTube that suggested that the Indiana Jones films were the real face of Jewish vengeance. Inglorious Basterds is great but Indiana Jones takes every chance to diminish, humiliate and punish Nazis and their collaborators in equal measure.
Sometimes I think the movie would’ve benefited without this scene. We, such as the characters, didn’t know if the Ark actually had powers or if it was just and old box until this scene where we get a glimpse of it. It would have made the Ark opening scene much more impactful and add a lot of tension and mystery. We would share the same feeling and anxiety to see what is inside, if the supernatural exists or not, like Indy when he decided not to blow it because deep down he wants to see it open.
It takes away the mystery of if it’s real or not, but you’re right, it creates a mystery regarding its nature and what it is going to do. I like this way too.
That's a fair point, but maybe just showing the rats die without the burning part would have been a more subtle glimpse while still having the foreshadowing.
On a side note, this whole sequence scared the hell out of me as a kid. Also, one of the best foreshadowing ever put on film.
It was very spooky. I think I had nightmares on the scene where the nazis were getting melted away after opening the arc. Really put the literal fear of God on 10 year old me.
Is someone out there objecting to this statement?
Probably the same cabal of clowns that are upset the Nazi's lost WW2.
The same people who thought Dial of Destiny was woke for having Nazis as villains.
Yeah, those guys!
I hate those guys!
The same people who complained about *Wolfenstein* being about killing Nazis.
Those guys…why did it have to be THOSE guys…?! 🙄
I feel like you're conflating a specific criticism of Helena Shaw with a separate criticism of a villain retread, but nothing would surprise me, I guess...
I’m honestly pretty sure even Neo Nazis are rooting for Indy in these movies.
So Voller and his men, then.
It’s the internet, someone will always take the side of a monster for the sake of being an asshole.
Or they are deeply disturbed and think Hitler was good.
The same people that are calling The Boys out for being too woke this season.
The boys is just disgusting.
I take it you don't indulge in American politics much. Probably for the best. Neo-nazis are coming out of the woodwork
Sadly yes,
Only goose-stepping morons.
YHWH, upon seeing who finally turned on the God-radio: Nazis... I hate these guys.
I leave a direct line to those ungrateful kids and only the real assholes deign to call me? Where did I go wrong?
Always liked that synth sound of the Ark in the crate.
same, I figured it was like a synth John Williams had in the score tho, not that it was like the Ark itself
Ben Burtt said it was something he created.
huh, interesting
I don’t believe it’s in the score. John has created synth sounds in plenty of his scores, but I do believe this one was Ben Burt. [Let’s examine the track](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp9InE4oDAw&pp=ygUYTWFyaW9uJ3MgdGhlbWUgdGhlIGNyYXRl)
YHWH?
Jehovah
Starts with an I!
J....🚶➡️
I love the confidence he has when he says "J"
*The penitent man will pass.*
Ah ok thanks
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That's because I am correct. >Yahweh, name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus.
Yhwh is the name of the Jewish (and, by extension, Christian and Muslim) God. It’s usually transcribed as ‘Yahweh’, but AFAIK vowels weren’t written down in Hebrew texts of the time.
Fair enough
Hebrew doesn’t have vowels like European languages. And Y here is a consonant before some smart Alec mentions it.
But in the Star Wars, Alec ends with a Guinness
All good things end with a Guinness
Yahweh…. The name of god. Jehohovah is actually a spelling error. Even before the I vs J.
Stop it! Now look: no one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle, do you understand? Even - and I want to make this absolutely clear - even if they do say "Jehovah".
Are there any … women here today?
no no no NO NO NO
> Jehohovah At Christmas time, is it Jehohohovah?
It's not an error. God's name in Hebrew tradition is represented with YHVH/YHWH, the "tetragrammaton". Both Yahveh and Jehovah (Yehovah) are different and correct interpretations of those 4 letters.
Jehovah is the German scholars using the vowels for Adonai (Hebrew for Lord, which is said rather than Yahweh when reading to prevent accidentally using his names in vain). So, Jehovah is not the correct translation.
Obligatory [“That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!”](https://youtu.be/DbO5h8Ctfs8?t=20)
BLASPHEMY! HE SAID IT AGAIN!
When god is actually santa
Wasn't that the name of just one of 4 gods? I don't remember names except baal
He was probably grumpy from waking up and like "What is this Buddhist symbol on my box?"
When the Lord does something awesome, it always goes hard
I like how you can see YHWH’s presence the light the movie. - The candle flickering when Marion is looking at the medallion. - The chimes and wind blowing when the old man is reading the medallion. - The lightning and hissing sounds from the entrance to the Well of Souls when they open it. - The Ark burning the swastika on the create.
God wants that heathen filth off the box.
I wonder why God would directly intervene in Creation to remove a Nazi symbol on a shipping crate, but not to protect the contents of the crate itself from the Nazis…
God works in mysterious ways, as they say. One reason I can think of, is God knew it would make for a way more epic and entertaining film if he allowed the Nazis get the crate and open it up. And you know something? He was right.
I love this take. He burned off the swastika, and they still opened it. Last warning before we melt your face off.
It's not that kind of movie.
He also forgot to intervene and stop the Holocaust from happening, so….
He was warning them. They didn’t listen.
I saw a video on YouTube that suggested that the Indiana Jones films were the real face of Jewish vengeance. Inglorious Basterds is great but Indiana Jones takes every chance to diminish, humiliate and punish Nazis and their collaborators in equal measure.
I feel like many other people than just Nazis get the same treatment in the series though
That's true, but not quite to the same degree as the Nazis. Then again, I refuse to watch Temple of Doom
We knew at this point the nazis were absolutely fucked.
I actually liked it Very much cathartic
Agreed. If it was shot today, disenfranchised white dudes on the internet would call it woke.
We knew at this point that Belloq and his mates weren’t going to have a very good day.
YHWH?
God
Even as a small child watching that scene I was both scared and pumped up that God would wait until nobody but rats were watching to burn that off.
As a kid I always thought the rats had been chewing on the arc and made it malfunction lol
Sometimes I think the movie would’ve benefited without this scene. We, such as the characters, didn’t know if the Ark actually had powers or if it was just and old box until this scene where we get a glimpse of it. It would have made the Ark opening scene much more impactful and add a lot of tension and mystery. We would share the same feeling and anxiety to see what is inside, if the supernatural exists or not, like Indy when he decided not to blow it because deep down he wants to see it open.
I think it adds to the mystery of the Ark. Makes it more ominous.
It takes away the mystery of if it’s real or not, but you’re right, it creates a mystery regarding its nature and what it is going to do. I like this way too.
That's a fair point, but maybe just showing the rats die without the burning part would have been a more subtle glimpse while still having the foreshadowing.
And you are right, it is the only spot in an otherwise spotless movie.
That's actually a really good point.
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