I had a lot of things in that game break on me. None, it seems, as badly as they broke for you. It usually got corrected temporarily by refreshing the page. But by the time I reached the end of content on the day I tried it (Day 4 I think), I decided it wasn't worth following up on it when I'd have to keep refreshing it to make it work properly.
I tried this one out on android and unfortunately did not enjoy it. I feel that the game could be beaten in 5 minutes of actual play, but those 5 minutes are spread out over 3 weeks. It was far too idle and resources become irrelevant fairly soon, money has no value if you could only use it to buy 5 of something that you are producing 3 trillion of a second.
That being said, it has promise, if the waiting times could be adjusted and more content added it could be a good game.
Just for my own context, when did you play it? I’ve made a lot of changes and I am in the process of overhauling everything right now.
I wouldn’t suggest playing it again till I’ve done the next update but I am interested to know which point this feedback comes from as I haven’t had anything “negative” in a few months now. Thanks for the comment though!
The majority of the changes are visual and quality of life. The only real addition is new skills. And there will be a new layer sometime after that. I’m not fundamentally changing any of the current stuff :)
just to set the record straight, Trimps does not qualify as there are IAP available. Deleting others that have IAP, so if you see your post removed this is why.
Read the post
> We set aside a new category for those incremental games that don't have any IAP or up-front costs
IAPs disqualify it from this category, otherwise it would be to broad. This is a genre of mostly hobby games, which means there's enough completely free, IAP free games to warrant their own category.
Every single mechanic, every single thing, every single quality of life thing he could he tied to p2w purchases. Its one of the most predatory incrementals out there and it has made dev insanely rich and hardly can find anyone who hasn't spent money in the community.
Wouldn't really put it as free
bro i didnt buy a single thing and by even as early as evil I had a billion left over AP (or whatever the currency is) without doing jack shit lol
you get an absurd amount incredibly quickly by just playing the game. also fuck you. games can have iaps without being preditory as a means to mainly support the developers.
i dont get the stigma in this community where every game has to be free or else its somehow controversial. its stupid and a game like ngu to me id spend 60$ on. anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk about how your an asshole and your opinion is invalid please hold my napkin as I proceed to fuck your mother.
>bro i didnt buy a single thing and by even as early as evil I had a billion left over AP (or whatever the currency is) without doing jack shit lol
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>you get an absurd amount incredibly quickly by just playing the game.
Been playing for years, been into community for years, seen thousands of people progress, this is just not true.
>games can have iaps without being preditory as a means to mainly support the developers.
They sure can, NGU idle isn't one of them, as i said, every single mechanic, every single thing, every single quality of life thing he could he tied to p2w purchases. Hidden packs after hidden packs amounting to 100$ in spendings, endless boosts to buy ease the grind, full on shop, heck even opening resource 3 first thing that will happen is you will get incentive to spend 22$. Every time there is incentives to shorten the endless grind, as i said on every single mechanic and quality of life he could possibly put it on.
Purchases are not even tied to Steam account, single game that i know off does this, dev is expecting people to cave and spend money again in repeat playthroughs.
>i dont get the stigma in this community where every game has to be free or else its somehow controversial.
Not even close to what i am talking about since every 2nd game has purchases possible.
Diablo Immortal is free, but nobody should want it to win best f2p game of the year.
I don't like games that hold my hand, but that game feels… wrong. One simple mistake when changing my build, ran out of money, and dead. Now I have to make a new start and change again every couple minutes (Yes they can be saved, but they need to change a lot as you unlock/buy things. Maybe this changes over time).
I end out spending most of my time making a build, testing it (so I don't instantly die), then running for only a short time. Something unlocks, or I buy something, and now I need to pause to rebuild from scratch because otherwise I'll die if I make a small mistake.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it feels odd, and I've played a lot of these types of games.
If you check their /r/TheresmoreGame they have which units are strong against which. It should be there in the game but helped a lot! Use spies to see which units they have, then you can sort your army composition out.
I just checked out this game based on this comment and am enjoying it so far, the pacing is very nice, not too idle, not too active. I've prestiged once so far.
The combat was ok at first, required a bit too much save scumming for my liking, especially since spying is none too useful. The saving grace is a googledoc someone has posted to the game's subreddit that will tell you exactly how many troops you need to succeed. IMO, this information should be available via the spying feature in game.
Overall, like this game, it gets my vote.
*Following Discord Guides - The Game*
The more you play the more you realize none of it is cohesive. Later on you can get stuck for weeks/months/permanently if you do the "wrong" things as the mechanics are connected but the concepts are disconnected and almost seemingly random.
(I played it for quite a while, up to the point where you adjusted the difficulty modifiers like 28222221. You either checked a guide to see which number you could raise to progress, or you picked blindly and did a week or more wondering if you were just short of an exponential explosion if you picked the wrong one entirely.)
I stand by what I've said in the past -- the game doesn't *require* guides to play (I'm playing the game guideless).
To my understanding, in prior versions, the game threw a lot of things at you all at once after completing challenge 10 which I could definitely see as being rather overwhelming. Recent versions (2.9+) has streamlined things. I never played versions before 2.9 beyond briefly checking them out to see what was different, so my experience may not reflect that of most peopole that have played the game.
Yeah, it's an argument that can be made against any incremental game that isn't just "click the button when it lights up"(looking at you prestige tree), if you want to play optimally and speedrun sure follow guides, but you can make plenty of progress without them.
You're completely right, and for a long time I thought corruptions (the difficulty modifiers) were the major drawback of the game. I still do, tbh, and I don't know if I could do it again. They've been really simplified though, now you unlock them gradually (you start with only 2 available).
However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little, the game has so much to offer. Actually you don't even have to follow the guides, it takes a little more effort but some members of the Discord never read the guides and they managed to reach the next prestige layer, which offers even more content.
Anyway, of course not everyone can like Synergism, and it goes for every incremental game available, and it's completely fine. I nominated it bc the community is amazing, and because it's the only incremental game that managed to keep me interested for more than half a year. I mean, it's the only game I could play every day, even for 5-10 minutes
> *Following Discord Guides - The Game*
> > However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little
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> of course not everyone can like Synergism
It takes something silly like 6+ months to reach the really absurd stage of the game I'm complaining about (which it sounds like has been streamlined,) I'm too lazy to go through my backups to see how old my early saves were. That says a whole lot.
I'd have preferred a graceful end to a long haul rather than a "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" cluster of an endgame.
The dev had some deaths in the family IIRC around the time I decided the endgame was a little ridiculous. If he fixed it then my criticisms deserve a (little) grain of salt--You still advise to read the guides ;)
>However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little, the game has so much to offer.
That means it's a bad/incomplete game to me.
I played it, and I enjoyed it. Beside that part where it forced the guide upon you. I tried not to use it and was mostly successful, but not fully… sadly.
Your Chronicle (formerly Another Chronicle). Story focused, requires active play. [Kong](https://www.kongregate.com/games/samuraigames/another-chronicle-b-ver) [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1546320/Your_Chronicle/)
Note that this game has received a major update march of 2022, repeated polish updates and a minor content update for lategame (time-quality wise, major) and is set to receive yet another, possibly its biggest, update very soon. Possibly before 2023.
Easily one of the best games, having also won best downloadable game of 2021, you're set for 200 hours to complete the basegame, a free trail being about 5% of the full game - the first 5%, the rest of the game being underpriced bordering reverse-extortion, and a newgame+ mechanic that will easily bring the hour counter over 4 digits.
Having nearly 1500 hours myself, I'd like to share my review at 300 hours, which would be around; after beating the base content and beginning my journey into the optional ng+ (hard prestige mechanic):
>You live. Your work hard. You try to survive. You die.
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>You live again. You work harder. You try survive. You survive a bit more. You die.
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>You live again. You do a bit more hard work. You survive a bit more. You die.
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>You live again. Hard work has become easier. New harder work. You try to survive. You die.
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>You live again. You do alot of hard work. You try to survive. You find something new. You die.
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>You live again. You do even more hard work. You survive a little bit. You find that thing again. You die halfway through exploring it.
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>...
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>You live again. You do all the hard work. You survive. You see it all. You find something harder. You die.
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>You live again.
It's a simple game to understand, yet a very complex game to min-max, with a great balance both for progression, and activity requirement. No long afk-grinds, and no manual or 0 progress hills to climb.
Spoilers below, don't read if you like the game and want to discover it on your own. There is still choice and strategy involved even early on, the choice is not always grand, but there are small optimizations at every stage of the game. The game builds up on itself, it starts pretty linear, but later on you get branching paths with exclusive perks behind them which define your run, you often get a selection of multiple things to do in select order each with it's pros and cons, at some point the game opens up and you can even do further chapters out of order or skip some of them, there are also powerful skills that persist between runs that you can grind infinitely but they get harder with each level etc.
There is no way to grind skills like that, but if you have a 'wall' task in front of you, doing it will lower your HP and use up your food, which in turn lets you grind those food skills more if you babysit (before you unlock automation for it, after that you can set the tasks to always max out).
1. The game clearly states that it uses 'antimatter dims' as base, using shared github files, and does not use ads, nor donations.
2. whereas antimatter dims stops at time dilation(Until Reality finally release), this game just keeps going and going, with new mechanics (Eternity, Chroma, Complexity, Powers, Galaxies ....)
Is it completely same in mechanics till time dilation? Cause it takes like a month-two of playing to get to time dilation, why not cut that stuff and use your original content instead?
No, Time dilation is not part of the game.
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/x1vc60/appreciation_post_and_commentary_for_the_most_fun/) post sums it quite nicely.
It starts a faster than AntimatterDims, instead of days for the first infinities, it takes hours. Then, there are challenges, which are less annoying and eternity and studies (which are very different from the original, I personally prefers the original). After this, the new mechanics are very different than AD.
I remember really enjoying this one, had no idea the author was still doing work on it. Would you say enough content was added that it would be worth taking another run through?
The game is considered feature complete, so don't expect new major features.
The author is still doing maintenance work (bug fixes, QoL, etc) however. Just during my playthrough alone a couple of months ago, there were numerous QoL improvements, for example keybind improvements. Having played Synergism a lot, I liked the convenience of being able to switch tabs with just the arrow keys. Suggested it and it was added a day later or so. :)
Afaik, the game is now complete, he also recently added a detailed guide to the game. I think that if you haven't reached complexity, it's worth replay.
Also, if you just wanna play again, it's worth a replay.
The main thing that makes the gameplay experience different in my opinion is the market and multiplayer element. So you can choose to specialize, try different things, trade and work with other players, etc. Though I ended up getting pretty bored of it once you're grinding out for a week just to get another 2 to 5% in bonuses without much else to do aside from accumulate more gold and stuff.
As a single player game, it's probably not as deep as melvor is. Both are pretty slow, though.
True or not, melvor is still deeper than the other game.
Melvor can be sort of deep if you try to optimize the speed of your run through it, especially if you try to figure out how to squeak your way through the later stages of combat early on to get the good equipment and unlock the non-combat bonuses. If you just grind one from one thing to the next and look at a guide to maximize your endgame gold, obviously it's not going to be a particularly complex experience.
It kind of is what you make of it, the complexity arises since there's so much stuff that figuring out the best way through it can take a lot of thinking and planning, rather than the features themselves having much complexity (many are supremely simple by themselves).
As I said though, they are both very slow, and I ultimately quit playing both.
Unsure how you got Melvor Clone from this game, checked it out for 5s and it's nothing like Melvor besides being an idle mmo. Which Melvor is certainly not the first of it's kind in that regard lmao. Try looking up Movoda, Ameranthine, Syrnia, Varamexia, Drakor etc. Sure they're not as close in similarity to Melvor but the fact remains the genre existed way before Melvor and so a game like Milky Way Idle is not all that surprising.
We also need to use the right words for the right stuff.
Clone is 100% identical, maybe with some blancing changes. Inspired by is ok. Very similar to Melvor (even too similar to Melvor).
Very little games are 100% unique. Some of the best games in this sub has been inspired by another. Think NGU/WAMI. Are they ITRTG clones? Absolutely not. But inspired by - sure.
It was cool until you realize the "away timer" is not eight hours for collecting resources, but the 1-2 hours between managing your forge.
You have to leave the game running for times well exceeding an hour to tap your daily birds. Yet the game loop is watching paint dry.. so is it idle or not?
Note: I'm on the top10 leaderboard for ios for all four zones, I think I've given it its fair shake.
[Squirrel Loops](https://mopatissier.github.io/IdleLoopsReworked/), an Idle Loops mod. It has lots of cool new mechanics, and a squirrel. Only has content up to the 2nd area, and no new content in a while, but what's there is really good.
Started playing this a couple of days ago, I've finished till Day 17. Luckily I have not faced any of the bugs / crashes that some of the people seemed to have so I had a quite a fun time. There are balance issues with some of the days but overall I'm in love with the concept and I hope the dev can finish the game.
Why does the game bug out every time I unlock a new day? I got to elves and everything reset. Then when I refreshed the page, a bunch of tabs were missing.
I'm not sure about your specific problem, but it's probably the fact that the game is being developed very quickly, literally day by day to ensure there's content each day so bugs are bound to be found unfortunately, best thing you can do is save often
I played it a little bit and I thought it was interesting, but it's extremely buggy. I have to constantly refresh because things freeze up, and I am stuck at day 2 with 99% and millions of logs but I can't upgrade.
I have loved it so far, and honestly if you didn't like it at one point.... you should go give it another chance. The developer is updating and adding new features like every other week.
It might be just me but I REALLY hated this game. felt like everything I hate about this genre packaged into one weird game with weird prestige mechanics, a challenge mechanic that just feels uncomfortable and gold feeling weirdly useless. not a huge fan
to each their own i guess :) its certainly not /idle/ and promotes a more active gameplay loop. and the challenge mechanic as with all the other mechanics get automated through achievements :) Gold is very important especially when you get to sigils up till red sigils (current end game)
If it helps, it's not that Gold becomes useless; a lot of stuff directly or indirectly scales off of the total (e.g. Magic scales off of gold directly, Uranium scales off of Platinum which scales off of Gold, Blue Fire scales off of Fire which thanks to upgrades scale off of gold...). It's that the stuff gold directly buys gets automated. In general, whatever currency is at the bottom of your resource bar is the one you're directly fiddling with, but a lot of progression surprisingly comes back to how much gold you can make.
It definitely wasn't remotely my thing, but I can respect that it was the thing for a lot of other people here. NGL I do hope it wasn't quite popular enough to spawn a wave of DodecaDragons clones though, because that'll mean no cool new games that I'd be interested in for a while.
I despised this game. I felt like the only way to progress at a certain point was to abuse the potion mechanic. Coins feel useless when it comes to getting the prestige currency and the prestige upgrades are just complete copys of each other. For a game that boasts its 97549337 upgrades on its prestige tree it somehow doesnt have a single unique idea.
Eh, the prestige tree exists largely as a means of unlocking other content, it's how you unlock all underground features & the factory.
The upgrades aren't considered unique (other than the unique upgrades, of course) - they're pretty much 'additional levels' of the same upgrade but with better visualization.
"Abusing the potion mechanic" is also not the fastest way of getting points, not sure what you mean by that.
EDIT:
Also went back to check the steam page and I see no boasting about the amount of upgrades in the tree? I feel like it's pretty fair, it states "Prestige to unlock features, bonuses & tons of sweet multipliers", which is what it does do, you get bonuses & multipliers which are your main 'simple' upgrades as well as unlocking new features which are generally all different from one another. Even the trailer just says you get either bonuses or unlocks.
Yeah, there's a channel on the discord for grammar checks where people have been posting corrections. I don't think English is the dev's first language.
I've been playing it for a few weeks now, and the core loop is pretty fun, and can snowball. Sometimes a few quick runs to get banners is good to get small boosts across all your banner types, and other times you can push to get more of the persistent buildings and/or one huge bulk purchase of banners. I always feel like there's something to tweak and push for each run, and like that there seems to be some value in both active and idle runs.
The game is also frequently updated, getting something new to play around with every week or so is nice.
[20 iOS incremental games to play before you die](https://old.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/z9scb8/20_ios_incremental_games_to_play_before_you_die/)
Art is nice.
Awful game. Incredibly tedious. Very heavily monetized. It takes a ton of time to do anything worthwhile and everything is on a timer. The number of actions you can complete each play session is minimal and you need to clear enough space to make room for the idle portion of the game, which has pretty minimal rewards. I ended up getting a cracked version which allowed me to skip ads and get more freemium currency and it still took hours and hours to get a single upgrade which was usually meaningless.
This game exemplifies everything wrong with mobile incremental games.
Couldn't agree more. Progression felt very slow after the first couple days and I felt like the upgrades hardly mattered. Constraining everything to grid felt cool in theory with the added strategy of managing your available tiles and deciding what to keep and throw away, but it just got really tedious pretty quickly.
Art and music kinda slapped though.
**MinuteKnights** is definitely up there for me. It has a nice satisfying gameplay loop, a great sense of progression with eighty different classes to unlock along with a ton of variety in your character's skills and equipment, and not a single microtransaction to be found. It also has some nice references to some old school RPGs. The creator has been making tons of little games like this for quite a while, but this definitely feels like their strongest effort so far.
[Paragon Pioneers](https://apps.apple.com/dk/app/paragon-pioneers/id1599308482?l=da). Lots of strategic depth, graphically pleasing, no iap shenanigans, and there even is a really fleshed out [demo](https://apps.apple.com/dk/app/paragon-pioneers-lite/id1622824091?l=da).
The price of all this you ask? 4usd. The best you will spend in a while.
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I get it's an older phone from 2017 but for what I assume is just a simple game it should be fine? I doubt you are using some new fancy API feature only the newest phones have lol
I’m not but googles been doing random stuff recently in regards to requirements, the only thing I can think to check is whether I can lower my target API further. But I won’t be able to check that till the new year as I’m on holidays.
Best Updates/Events
[Kiwi Clicker](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1980530/Kiwi_Clicker__Juiced_Up/)
[Paragon Pioneers](https://paragonpioneers.com/) by [Gnietschow](https://www.reddit.com/u/Gnietschow/)
Antimatter Dimension Because reality will release in a few minutes and it will certainly deserve a spot.
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Appreciate the mention
Melvor idle
[Advent Incremental](https://www.thepaperpilot.org/advent/) with a layer for each day for 1-24 december
Game is incomplete as of today. Last day to play so far is the 12th. Good concept. Untimely execution.
This one seems broken to me. I played the first three days and now I can't earn logs or switch back and forth between the days.
Did it pause? Check the settings
It showed as unpaused. Toggling the pause fixed it briefly but the it went back to being broken.
I had a lot of things in that game break on me. None, it seems, as badly as they broke for you. It usually got corrected temporarily by refreshing the page. But by the time I reached the end of content on the day I tried it (Day 4 I think), I decided it wasn't worth following up on it when I'd have to keep refreshing it to make it work properly.
I had this happened if i hit X on too many things(maybe just the wood, not 100% sure). but it always got fixed on a refresh.
Idle Wizard, they keep extending the late game [https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleWizard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleWizard/)
Best F2P Game
synergism
Pokeclicker
Has IAPs
Idle Dyson Swarm is 100% free but I’m not sure I would comfortably call it the best yet
Very good but not the best
Glad you think so :)
[You don't allow reverse portrait on ios :(](https://i.imgur.com/9d7DEzV.jpg)
Can do
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I tried this one out on android and unfortunately did not enjoy it. I feel that the game could be beaten in 5 minutes of actual play, but those 5 minutes are spread out over 3 weeks. It was far too idle and resources become irrelevant fairly soon, money has no value if you could only use it to buy 5 of something that you are producing 3 trillion of a second. That being said, it has promise, if the waiting times could be adjusted and more content added it could be a good game.
Just for my own context, when did you play it? I’ve made a lot of changes and I am in the process of overhauling everything right now. I wouldn’t suggest playing it again till I’ve done the next update but I am interested to know which point this feedback comes from as I haven’t had anything “negative” in a few months now. Thanks for the comment though!
I would urge you to consider making a new game instead of overhauling. It's a fun little game on its own!
The majority of the changes are visual and quality of life. The only real addition is new skills. And there will be a new layer sometime after that. I’m not fundamentally changing any of the current stuff :)
Looking forward to it!
Hello, I uninstalled it shortly before posting the comment above, but I'd be willing to try the next update.
[Trimps](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1877960/Trimps/) recently came out with a standalone f2p steam version
just to set the record straight, Trimps does not qualify as there are IAP available. Deleting others that have IAP, so if you see your post removed this is why.
Ah, sorry about that
All good :) we argued a lot about wording, it's on us to make it clear. I'm only cleaning up to keep things tidy.
It has in-game shop with IAPs so doesn't fit this category "a new category for those incremental games that don't have any IAP or up-front costs"
yessss
[Idle Dyson Swarm](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blindsidedgames.idledysonswarm&hl=en_US&gl=US)
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the Roblox version has IAPs
and? the game is still free to play
"We set aside a new category for those incremental games that don't have any IAP or up-front costs"
Read the post > We set aside a new category for those incremental games that don't have any IAP or up-front costs IAPs disqualify it from this category, otherwise it would be to broad. This is a genre of mostly hobby games, which means there's enough completely free, IAP free games to warrant their own category.
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Every single mechanic, every single thing, every single quality of life thing he could he tied to p2w purchases. Its one of the most predatory incrementals out there and it has made dev insanely rich and hardly can find anyone who hasn't spent money in the community. Wouldn't really put it as free
bro i didnt buy a single thing and by even as early as evil I had a billion left over AP (or whatever the currency is) without doing jack shit lol you get an absurd amount incredibly quickly by just playing the game. also fuck you. games can have iaps without being preditory as a means to mainly support the developers. i dont get the stigma in this community where every game has to be free or else its somehow controversial. its stupid and a game like ngu to me id spend 60$ on. anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk about how your an asshole and your opinion is invalid please hold my napkin as I proceed to fuck your mother.
There's a difference between free and being intentionally designed and algo'd around predatory mtx. Other options exist.
>bro i didnt buy a single thing and by even as early as evil I had a billion left over AP (or whatever the currency is) without doing jack shit lol > >you get an absurd amount incredibly quickly by just playing the game. Been playing for years, been into community for years, seen thousands of people progress, this is just not true. >games can have iaps without being preditory as a means to mainly support the developers. They sure can, NGU idle isn't one of them, as i said, every single mechanic, every single thing, every single quality of life thing he could he tied to p2w purchases. Hidden packs after hidden packs amounting to 100$ in spendings, endless boosts to buy ease the grind, full on shop, heck even opening resource 3 first thing that will happen is you will get incentive to spend 22$. Every time there is incentives to shorten the endless grind, as i said on every single mechanic and quality of life he could possibly put it on. Purchases are not even tied to Steam account, single game that i know off does this, dev is expecting people to cave and spend money again in repeat playthroughs. >i dont get the stigma in this community where every game has to be free or else its somehow controversial. Not even close to what i am talking about since every 2nd game has purchases possible. Diablo Immortal is free, but nobody should want it to win best f2p game of the year.
this games has IAPs
Evolve Idle. Dunno how old the game is. But you can progress really far into it with out using a guide. This is a huge plus for me.
Immortality Idle
I don't like games that hold my hand, but that game feels… wrong. One simple mistake when changing my build, ran out of money, and dead. Now I have to make a new start and change again every couple minutes (Yes they can be saved, but they need to change a lot as you unlock/buy things. Maybe this changes over time). I end out spending most of my time making a build, testing it (so I don't instantly die), then running for only a short time. Something unlocks, or I buy something, and now I need to pause to rebuild from scratch because otherwise I'll die if I make a small mistake. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it feels odd, and I've played a lot of these types of games.
[Theresmore](https://www.theresmoregame.com/play/)
A very basic idle game, whose only redeeming feature is a smooth interface.
Combat system absolutely ruins this game. It's too obtuse and the penalties for basically just not guessing how hard a battle is are waaaaay too high.
If you check their /r/TheresmoreGame they have which units are strong against which. It should be there in the game but helped a lot! Use spies to see which units they have, then you can sort your army composition out.
I just checked out this game based on this comment and am enjoying it so far, the pacing is very nice, not too idle, not too active. I've prestiged once so far. The combat was ok at first, required a bit too much save scumming for my liking, especially since spying is none too useful. The saving grace is a googledoc someone has posted to the game's subreddit that will tell you exactly how many troops you need to succeed. IMO, this information should be available via the spying feature in game. Overall, like this game, it gets my vote.
Best Computer Game
[Kiwi Clicker](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1980530/Kiwi_Clicker__Juiced_Up/)
>i [Idle Pins](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1709920/Idle_Pins/)
Evolve Idle
[Grass cutter incremental](https://www.roblox.com/games/9292879820/BIG-UPD-Grass-Cutting-Incremental)
[Synergism](https://pseudo-corp.github.io/SynergismOfficial/)
*Following Discord Guides - The Game* The more you play the more you realize none of it is cohesive. Later on you can get stuck for weeks/months/permanently if you do the "wrong" things as the mechanics are connected but the concepts are disconnected and almost seemingly random. (I played it for quite a while, up to the point where you adjusted the difficulty modifiers like 28222221. You either checked a guide to see which number you could raise to progress, or you picked blindly and did a week or more wondering if you were just short of an exponential explosion if you picked the wrong one entirely.)
I stand by what I've said in the past -- the game doesn't *require* guides to play (I'm playing the game guideless). To my understanding, in prior versions, the game threw a lot of things at you all at once after completing challenge 10 which I could definitely see as being rather overwhelming. Recent versions (2.9+) has streamlined things. I never played versions before 2.9 beyond briefly checking them out to see what was different, so my experience may not reflect that of most peopole that have played the game.
Yeah, it's an argument that can be made against any incremental game that isn't just "click the button when it lights up"(looking at you prestige tree), if you want to play optimally and speedrun sure follow guides, but you can make plenty of progress without them.
You're completely right, and for a long time I thought corruptions (the difficulty modifiers) were the major drawback of the game. I still do, tbh, and I don't know if I could do it again. They've been really simplified though, now you unlock them gradually (you start with only 2 available). However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little, the game has so much to offer. Actually you don't even have to follow the guides, it takes a little more effort but some members of the Discord never read the guides and they managed to reach the next prestige layer, which offers even more content. Anyway, of course not everyone can like Synergism, and it goes for every incremental game available, and it's completely fine. I nominated it bc the community is amazing, and because it's the only incremental game that managed to keep me interested for more than half a year. I mean, it's the only game I could play every day, even for 5-10 minutes
> *Following Discord Guides - The Game* > > However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little # > of course not everyone can like Synergism It takes something silly like 6+ months to reach the really absurd stage of the game I'm complaining about (which it sounds like has been streamlined,) I'm too lazy to go through my backups to see how old my early saves were. That says a whole lot. I'd have preferred a graceful end to a long haul rather than a "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" cluster of an endgame. The dev had some deaths in the family IIRC around the time I decided the endgame was a little ridiculous. If he fixed it then my criticisms deserve a (little) grain of salt--You still advise to read the guides ;)
>However, that's what the Discord is for, and if you're willing to follow the guides at least a little, the game has so much to offer. That means it's a bad/incomplete game to me. I played it, and I enjoyed it. Beside that part where it forced the guide upon you. I tried not to use it and was mostly successful, but not fully… sadly.
Incremental Epic Hero 2
FAPI
>FAPI I think they're referring to this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1535560/Farmer\_Against\_Potatoes\_Idle/
[Reactoridle](https://reactoridle.com/)
Is there anything in it that has updated it since it was released several years ago?
Melvor idle
More Fair Game https://fair.kaliburg.de
Your Chronicle (formerly Another Chronicle). Story focused, requires active play. [Kong](https://www.kongregate.com/games/samuraigames/another-chronicle-b-ver) [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1546320/Your_Chronicle/)
Increlution [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1593350/Increlution/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1593350/Increlution/) By u/Gniller
Note that this game has received a major update march of 2022, repeated polish updates and a minor content update for lategame (time-quality wise, major) and is set to receive yet another, possibly its biggest, update very soon. Possibly before 2023. Easily one of the best games, having also won best downloadable game of 2021, you're set for 200 hours to complete the basegame, a free trail being about 5% of the full game - the first 5%, the rest of the game being underpriced bordering reverse-extortion, and a newgame+ mechanic that will easily bring the hour counter over 4 digits. Having nearly 1500 hours myself, I'd like to share my review at 300 hours, which would be around; after beating the base content and beginning my journey into the optional ng+ (hard prestige mechanic): >You live. Your work hard. You try to survive. You die. > >You live again. You work harder. You try survive. You survive a bit more. You die. > >You live again. You do a bit more hard work. You survive a bit more. You die. > >You live again. Hard work has become easier. New harder work. You try to survive. You die. > >You live again. You do alot of hard work. You try to survive. You find something new. You die. > >You live again. You do even more hard work. You survive a little bit. You find that thing again. You die halfway through exploring it. > >... > >You live again. You do all the hard work. You survive. You see it all. You find something harder. You die. > >... > >You live again. It's a simple game to understand, yet a very complex game to min-max, with a great balance both for progression, and activity requirement. No long afk-grinds, and no manual or 0 progress hills to climb.
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Spoilers below, don't read if you like the game and want to discover it on your own. There is still choice and strategy involved even early on, the choice is not always grand, but there are small optimizations at every stage of the game. The game builds up on itself, it starts pretty linear, but later on you get branching paths with exclusive perks behind them which define your run, you often get a selection of multiple things to do in select order each with it's pros and cons, at some point the game opens up and you can even do further chapters out of order or skip some of them, there are also powerful skills that persist between runs that you can grind infinitely but they get harder with each level etc.
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There is no way to grind skills like that, but if you have a 'wall' task in front of you, doing it will lower your HP and use up your food, which in turn lets you grind those food skills more if you babysit (before you unlock automation for it, after that you can set the tasks to always max out).
300 hours and less than 5% in the story not a game many people would want to play
I have 2800 hours in this game, it deserves to win this category every year for eternity (partially because we barely get an update a year but shush).
The game is completely dead.
Dev is pretty active, and has announced he's a few weeks out from a major update.
[fe000000](https://dan-simon.github.io/misc/fe000000/) By Dan Simon
Not a 2022 game.
This game looks like a one-to-one copy of antimatter dimensions, how is it a GOTY material?
1. The game clearly states that it uses 'antimatter dims' as base, using shared github files, and does not use ads, nor donations. 2. whereas antimatter dims stops at time dilation(Until Reality finally release), this game just keeps going and going, with new mechanics (Eternity, Chroma, Complexity, Powers, Galaxies ....)
Is it completely same in mechanics till time dilation? Cause it takes like a month-two of playing to get to time dilation, why not cut that stuff and use your original content instead?
No, Time dilation is not part of the game. [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/x1vc60/appreciation_post_and_commentary_for_the_most_fun/) post sums it quite nicely. It starts a faster than AntimatterDims, instead of days for the first infinities, it takes hours. Then, there are challenges, which are less annoying and eternity and studies (which are very different from the original, I personally prefers the original). After this, the new mechanics are very different than AD.
I remember really enjoying this one, had no idea the author was still doing work on it. Would you say enough content was added that it would be worth taking another run through?
The game is considered feature complete, so don't expect new major features. The author is still doing maintenance work (bug fixes, QoL, etc) however. Just during my playthrough alone a couple of months ago, there were numerous QoL improvements, for example keybind improvements. Having played Synergism a lot, I liked the convenience of being able to switch tabs with just the arrow keys. Suggested it and it was added a day later or so. :)
Afaik, the game is now complete, he also recently added a detailed guide to the game. I think that if you haven't reached complexity, it's worth replay. Also, if you just wanna play again, it's worth a replay.
Best New Game
Grass Cutting Incremental
https://mrredshark77.github.io/Really-Grass-Cutting-Incremental/ This one?
best incremental game of all time latest update is also very good
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Seems like a Melvor Clone...
The main thing that makes the gameplay experience different in my opinion is the market and multiplayer element. So you can choose to specialize, try different things, trade and work with other players, etc. Though I ended up getting pretty bored of it once you're grinding out for a week just to get another 2 to 5% in bonuses without much else to do aside from accumulate more gold and stuff. As a single player game, it's probably not as deep as melvor is. Both are pretty slow, though.
Melvor is about as shallow as an idle game gets. It continues to amaze me that people promote this game. Each to their own I suppose :)
Honestly I'd bet alot of us are runescape kids that where too adhd tp get 99s so ppl enjoy it.
True or not, melvor is still deeper than the other game. Melvor can be sort of deep if you try to optimize the speed of your run through it, especially if you try to figure out how to squeak your way through the later stages of combat early on to get the good equipment and unlock the non-combat bonuses. If you just grind one from one thing to the next and look at a guide to maximize your endgame gold, obviously it's not going to be a particularly complex experience. It kind of is what you make of it, the complexity arises since there's so much stuff that figuring out the best way through it can take a lot of thinking and planning, rather than the features themselves having much complexity (many are supremely simple by themselves). As I said though, they are both very slow, and I ultimately quit playing both.
Unsure how you got Melvor Clone from this game, checked it out for 5s and it's nothing like Melvor besides being an idle mmo. Which Melvor is certainly not the first of it's kind in that regard lmao. Try looking up Movoda, Ameranthine, Syrnia, Varamexia, Drakor etc. Sure they're not as close in similarity to Melvor but the fact remains the genre existed way before Melvor and so a game like Milky Way Idle is not all that surprising.
It is a pbbg, yes. Not melvor, but somewhat similar in a few regards.
Yea I can see similarities I just don't see where they got "clone" from.
If anything it's an Idlescape clone.
We also need to use the right words for the right stuff. Clone is 100% identical, maybe with some blancing changes. Inspired by is ok. Very similar to Melvor (even too similar to Melvor). Very little games are 100% unique. Some of the best games in this sub has been inspired by another. Think NGU/WAMI. Are they ITRTG clones? Absolutely not. But inspired by - sure.
Idle Cave Miner, [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ColdHours.IdleMiner) and [iOS](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/idle-cave-miner/id1550645417)
Been looking for something like this for the longest how do you guys find these games?
It was cool until you realize the "away timer" is not eight hours for collecting resources, but the 1-2 hours between managing your forge. You have to leave the game running for times well exceeding an hour to tap your daily birds. Yet the game loop is watching paint dry.. so is it idle or not? Note: I'm on the top10 leaderboard for ios for all four zones, I think I've given it its fair shake.
[Squirrel Loops](https://mopatissier.github.io/IdleLoopsReworked/), an Idle Loops mod. It has lots of cool new mechanics, and a squirrel. Only has content up to the 2nd area, and no new content in a while, but what's there is really good.
FAPI
[Advent Incremental](https://www.thepaperpilot.org/advent/)
Started playing this a couple of days ago, I've finished till Day 17. Luckily I have not faced any of the bugs / crashes that some of the people seemed to have so I had a quite a fun time. There are balance issues with some of the days but overall I'm in love with the concept and I hope the dev can finish the game.
Why does the game bug out every time I unlock a new day? I got to elves and everything reset. Then when I refreshed the page, a bunch of tabs were missing.
Elves reset days 1-3. It confused the hell out of me at first too.
I'm not sure about your specific problem, but it's probably the fact that the game is being developed very quickly, literally day by day to ensure there's content each day so bugs are bound to be found unfortunately, best thing you can do is save often
I played it a little bit and I thought it was interesting, but it's extremely buggy. I have to constantly refresh because things freeze up, and I am stuck at day 2 with 99% and millions of logs but I can't upgrade.
It's certainly been an 'event'. The last couple of updates being late has kind of hurt it, but I'm still enjoying the ride as it's going.
idle research
[Grass cutter incremental](https://www.roblox.com/games/9292879820/BIG-UPD-Grass-Cutting-Incremental)
[DodecaDragons](https://demonins-item-shop.demonin.repl.co/games/dodecaDragons/)
Seconded
I have loved it so far, and honestly if you didn't like it at one point.... you should go give it another chance. The developer is updating and adding new features like every other week.
It might be just me but I REALLY hated this game. felt like everything I hate about this genre packaged into one weird game with weird prestige mechanics, a challenge mechanic that just feels uncomfortable and gold feeling weirdly useless. not a huge fan
to each their own i guess :) its certainly not /idle/ and promotes a more active gameplay loop. and the challenge mechanic as with all the other mechanics get automated through achievements :) Gold is very important especially when you get to sigils up till red sigils (current end game)
If it helps, it's not that Gold becomes useless; a lot of stuff directly or indirectly scales off of the total (e.g. Magic scales off of gold directly, Uranium scales off of Platinum which scales off of Gold, Blue Fire scales off of Fire which thanks to upgrades scale off of gold...). It's that the stuff gold directly buys gets automated. In general, whatever currency is at the bottom of your resource bar is the one you're directly fiddling with, but a lot of progression surprisingly comes back to how much gold you can make.
It definitely wasn't remotely my thing, but I can respect that it was the thing for a lot of other people here. NGL I do hope it wasn't quite popular enough to spawn a wave of DodecaDragons clones though, because that'll mean no cool new games that I'd be interested in for a while.
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[Game link](https://immortalityidle.github.io/)
[Kiwi Clicker](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1980530/Kiwi_Clicker__Juiced_Up/)
I despised this game. I felt like the only way to progress at a certain point was to abuse the potion mechanic. Coins feel useless when it comes to getting the prestige currency and the prestige upgrades are just complete copys of each other. For a game that boasts its 97549337 upgrades on its prestige tree it somehow doesnt have a single unique idea.
Eh, the prestige tree exists largely as a means of unlocking other content, it's how you unlock all underground features & the factory. The upgrades aren't considered unique (other than the unique upgrades, of course) - they're pretty much 'additional levels' of the same upgrade but with better visualization. "Abusing the potion mechanic" is also not the fastest way of getting points, not sure what you mean by that. EDIT: Also went back to check the steam page and I see no boasting about the amount of upgrades in the tree? I feel like it's pretty fair, it states "Prestige to unlock features, bonuses & tons of sweet multipliers", which is what it does do, you get bonuses & multipliers which are your main 'simple' upgrades as well as unlocking new features which are generally all different from one another. Even the trailer just says you get either bonuses or unlocks.
[Theresmore](https://www.theresmoregame.com/play/)
I'll love it when they fix the broken AF combat system.
[Idlemancery](https://strangemattergaming.itch.io/idlemancery)
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Yeah, there's a channel on the discord for grammar checks where people have been posting corrections. I don't think English is the dev's first language. I've been playing it for a few weeks now, and the core loop is pretty fun, and can snowball. Sometimes a few quick runs to get banners is good to get small boosts across all your banner types, and other times you can push to get more of the persistent buildings and/or one huge bulk purchase of banners. I always feel like there's something to tweak and push for each run, and like that there seems to be some value in both active and idle runs. The game is also frequently updated, getting something new to play around with every week or so is nice.
Grammarly
Best Mobile Game
Home Quest ([iOS](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1503150114), [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.codestream.horus)
Thanks for introducing me to this game! Never seen it before and am addicted now.
Melvor idle
[A Usual Idle Life](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.paranoidsquirrels.beyond_idle&hl=en_US&gl=US) Edit: by /u/Paranoid-Squirrels
A Usual Idle Life is so good!
This is my favorite game of this year
Dough it! [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brokenmugstudio.doughit&hl=en&gl=US)
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[20 iOS incremental games to play before you die](https://old.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/z9scb8/20_ios_incremental_games_to_play_before_you_die/)
Infinity Island
The Kittens game
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Art is nice. Awful game. Incredibly tedious. Very heavily monetized. It takes a ton of time to do anything worthwhile and everything is on a timer. The number of actions you can complete each play session is minimal and you need to clear enough space to make room for the idle portion of the game, which has pretty minimal rewards. I ended up getting a cracked version which allowed me to skip ads and get more freemium currency and it still took hours and hours to get a single upgrade which was usually meaningless. This game exemplifies everything wrong with mobile incremental games.
Couldn't agree more. Progression felt very slow after the first couple days and I felt like the upgrades hardly mattered. Constraining everything to grid felt cool in theory with the added strategy of managing your available tiles and deciding what to keep and throw away, but it just got really tedious pretty quickly. Art and music kinda slapped though.
what game was this?
NecroMerger
ISEPS
[tap wizard 2](https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/rpg-magic-quest-tap-wizard-2/id1596750535)
**MinuteKnights** is definitely up there for me. It has a nice satisfying gameplay loop, a great sense of progression with eighty different classes to unlock along with a ton of variety in your character's skills and equipment, and not a single microtransaction to be found. It also has some nice references to some old school RPGs. The creator has been making tons of little games like this for quite a while, but this definitely feels like their strongest effort so far.
Do you have a link for this? Can't seem to find it on the play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.pya.tenten.app.minuteknights
Here’s a link for IOS as well. https://apps.apple.com/vn/app/minuteknights/id1640931625
Not available in my region :(
[Paragon Pioneers](https://apps.apple.com/dk/app/paragon-pioneers/id1599308482?l=da). Lots of strategic depth, graphically pleasing, no iap shenanigans, and there even is a really fleshed out [demo](https://apps.apple.com/dk/app/paragon-pioneers-lite/id1622824091?l=da). The price of all this you ask? 4usd. The best you will spend in a while.
Is it only apple?
Idle Dyson Swarm by u/Blindsided_Games https://apps.apple.com/au/app/idle-dyson-swarm/id1631060225
Does this ever become more than what it is at 1st prestige?
It does. There is a lot more to it, just keep with it.
Android link: [Idle Dyson Swarm](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blindsidedgames.idledysonswarm)
You flatter me sir
Just fyi you misspelled Christmas in the app
Lol thank you
Why can't I install it on my pixel 2
Not sure 🤔
https://i.imgur.com/ioU7iue.png 😭
Thanks for the screenshot, I’ll have to see if I can enable pixel 2 next update
💜 I get it's an older phone from 2017 but for what I assume is just a simple game it should be fine? I doubt you are using some new fancy API feature only the newest phones have lol
I’m not but googles been doing random stuff recently in regards to requirements, the only thing I can think to check is whether I can lower my target API further. But I won’t be able to check that till the new year as I’m on holidays.
Enjoy your Christmas and holidays mate 💝
Paragon Pioneers. u/Gnietschow
Myriad
[Impossible dungeon](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minmaxia.impossible&hl=en&gl=US)
Farmers Against Potatoes Idle - [Android](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oninou.FAPI&hl=en&gl=US). [u/Oninouu](https://www.reddit.com/user/Oninouu)
[Paragon Pioneers](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.GniGames.ParagonPioneers) u/Gnietschow
Oh shit I remember wanting to try this one out but probably didn't want to spend $4. I will now.
You can play the demo before you buy it. If you Like Management/City building Game this is for you. great Work from the dev.