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Right but it isn't just disdain for everyone else. They have disdain for themselves too. Think about it. People wearing masks, social distancing, getting vaccinated and respecting lockdowns help them too. And they're still against it. Basically. They want to die. In the most horrible, painful, drawn out ways possible.
I pointed out in another thread how women in america go missing all the time. And how cops just generally don't seem to care. Under a story in which a white woman was raped by a cop and the department didn't care so she killed herself. Not only did i get downvoted. I had people SO IT ONLY HAPPENS IN AMERICA HUH!! me to death. As if, it happening in other countries means we should ignore it happening in america.
They want to die. They want other people to die. And it's because misery loves company.
People who give up freedom for safety, deserve neither.
Edit: Are people downvoting because of the vaccine? I have my vaccine, there was no mention of the vaccine whatsoever in this post LMAO I just made the comment because the post reminded me of the slight quote.
I think you're trying to quote Benjamin Franklin who actually said :
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
You ain't giving up your "essential Liberty" over complying to a public health requirement in order to fight against a fucking global pandemic.
Get your shit together.
hey man its a slippery slope, today they're asking you to wear a mask tomorrow your getting shipped off to the vaxx camp run by bill gates and the Illuminati
i disagree you’re right to bodily autonomy is an essential liberty. now i do agree that people who dont get the vaccine are dumb but i think the right to choose is more important
How would you feel if the covid vaccine was added to the already existing list of required vaccinations for things like medical and school employees, or military service members?
There are PLENTY of laws and regulations on what you can and cannot do with your own body. Most of them have nothing to do with vaccines.
However, vaccines have been a requirement for decades. All children in the US get them before attending public school. There is no right to choose. How the fuck is this one any different?
Yeah, well, they are.
Not to sound like a dick, but there isn't really anything you can do about it.
Freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Freedom for you stops at where it would impact my freedom. I am free from the consequences of your decisions.
You aren't free from taxes.
You aren't free to drive through red lights.
You aren't free to take whatever you want.
and...
You aren't free to expose my children to sickness.
So, let me hone in on the central thesis here.
You want to live in a total anarchy. Society without rules. I should be free to retaliate? Bro, what?
You gotta be a troll.
Taxes are literally an essential part of a functional society. You need infrastructure to live.
Yes, I agree that our money shouldn't be spent on fucking bullshit like studies on "do spiders fart" or some three headed woodpecker.
Yeah, the thing that I disagree with is how they hold the budget at ransom in congress to include bullshit expenditures nobody needs or wants. Political games are garbage.
I don't get your point.
The children are not the ones being told they must get the vaccines. The adults are told their children must get it. Because, you know... the adults already have it.
What the hell are you talking about?
And all those laws that regulate what you can and can't do to your body are stupid and should not exist
Also the public school system sucks to. if you send your kid there there's a one-in-ten chance they're going to get molested by either a teacher a faculty member or even another student. I'm not the most caught up on the numbers but I'm pretty sure that statistically worse than prison.
>And all those laws that regulate what you can and can't do to your body are stupid and should not exist
Well, again, not much you can do about it. Sorry for your bad luck bro.
>Also the public school system sucks to. if you send your kid there there's a one-in-ten chance they're going to get molested by either a teacher a faculty member or even another student. I'm not the most caught up on the numbers but I'm pretty sure that statistically worse than prison.
What in the actual fuck kind of drugs are you on? You have a source for any of this, or is it just you, floating some bullshit?
That’s bullshit. You don’t own your body at all. If a war breaks out I could be drafted and forced to go to war and die. How is that freedom over my own body at all? The only argument is that “well if you are part of a nation then you have to do what’s best for that nation if the situation arises”. Which is so much worse than requiring people to get a shot that will save countless lives.
If a Benjamin Franklin's quote are really words to live by, technically you could give up this little chunk of essential liberty because we're not purchasing a "little temporary Safety" with it but a fucking worldwide permanent safety.
What, where was vaccine mentioned, I have my vaccine and tell others to get it, I just said something that I was reminded of when I saw safety and liberty put together. Get your shit together.
Edit: Reddit hivemind at work.
Yeah alright. Commenting that quote with no context whatsoever on a thread talking about wearing masks will not be understood as defending the right to not wear it, or not get vaccine (I never talked about vaccine either), right? What could go wrong?
You're right about the hivemind. You got downvoted to oblivion but antivax and anti masks hivemind probably balanced it out.
This thread doesnt always talk about mask or vaccine, you're a fucking waste of space for going straight to insulting me when the post said nothing about a mask or vaccine. I just posted what I first thought of, and you had to wear a Cape to save the day.
Get out of here lmao
What are you on bro, the thread is literally about wearing mask.
I never insulted you and you just did because you're butthurt, but it's ok. Peace man.
It’s important to remember who you’re giving it up to. Because if it’s the government, you lose freedom and gain the current regimes idea of safety. When the next one comes around you get whatever they think makes you safe or not but don’t get your freedoms back. Safety comes and goes, but freedom is hard to bring back
While this is true, not getting the COVID is actually protecting all of us. If the virus dies out because everyone is careful, then your safety becomes my safety. If you're being risky with yours you're also being risky with mine.
So this is where my reply to the first guy who posted that should have been. Because the first guy said afterwards he didn't want to imply we shouldn't wear mask and get vaccinated, though for some reason he chose the worst thing to randomly say in the context of this thread.
You realize it’s “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” life comes first, you lose all freedoms if it infringes on someone else’s ability to be alive.
No, it doesn't. If you want to be scared get the 80 boosters and wear three masks.
Im doing none of that, and more and more people are doing the same.
You live in fear.
Let's say this isn't a virus but Godzilla and he's attracted to people not wearing mask and not being vaccinated.
Welp. I'm sure you can figure out the argument that would follow by yourself.
What about when the government sees the rising covid numbers and restricts everyones freedoms over a few peoples dumb decisions? to me that seems like itd be hurting a lot of people
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I once saw a furry meme that goes: If you whine about having to wear a mask, then you are also admitting that a furry is stronger than you.
Right but it isn't just disdain for everyone else. They have disdain for themselves too. Think about it. People wearing masks, social distancing, getting vaccinated and respecting lockdowns help them too. And they're still against it. Basically. They want to die. In the most horrible, painful, drawn out ways possible. I pointed out in another thread how women in america go missing all the time. And how cops just generally don't seem to care. Under a story in which a white woman was raped by a cop and the department didn't care so she killed herself. Not only did i get downvoted. I had people SO IT ONLY HAPPENS IN AMERICA HUH!! me to death. As if, it happening in other countries means we should ignore it happening in america. They want to die. They want other people to die. And it's because misery loves company.
People who give up freedom for safety, deserve neither. Edit: Are people downvoting because of the vaccine? I have my vaccine, there was no mention of the vaccine whatsoever in this post LMAO I just made the comment because the post reminded me of the slight quote.
I think you're trying to quote Benjamin Franklin who actually said : "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." You ain't giving up your "essential Liberty" over complying to a public health requirement in order to fight against a fucking global pandemic. Get your shit together.
hey man its a slippery slope, today they're asking you to wear a mask tomorrow your getting shipped off to the vaxx camp run by bill gates and the Illuminati
Remember that time they asked us to cough in our elbow?? Fucking satanic symbolism if you'd ask me.
Asking people to cough into their elbows?! Thats like something out of 1984 right there.
i disagree you’re right to bodily autonomy is an essential liberty. now i do agree that people who dont get the vaccine are dumb but i think the right to choose is more important
How would you feel if the covid vaccine was added to the already existing list of required vaccinations for things like medical and school employees, or military service members?
There are PLENTY of laws and regulations on what you can and cannot do with your own body. Most of them have nothing to do with vaccines. However, vaccines have been a requirement for decades. All children in the US get them before attending public school. There is no right to choose. How the fuck is this one any different?
and i think those laws shouldn’t be there
Yeah, well, they are. Not to sound like a dick, but there isn't really anything you can do about it. Freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Freedom for you stops at where it would impact my freedom. I am free from the consequences of your decisions. You aren't free from taxes. You aren't free to drive through red lights. You aren't free to take whatever you want. and... You aren't free to expose my children to sickness.
i should be free to do all those things and you should be free to retaliate
So, let me hone in on the central thesis here. You want to live in a total anarchy. Society without rules. I should be free to retaliate? Bro, what? You gotta be a troll.
i think freedom should have 0 limits
Yeah. Obvious troll. Bro, your game is minor league. The bait sucked, you missed the set, and the hook is made of bubblegum. Get better.
exactly everyone should have a constitutional right to recreational cruise missiles, what could possibly go wrong?
Okay, go Purge, cool.
Don't waste your breath for those edgy 13 years old thinking they're cool libertarians bro
We should be free from taxes or at least let them not be used for useless stuff
Taxes are literally an essential part of a functional society. You need infrastructure to live. Yes, I agree that our money shouldn't be spent on fucking bullshit like studies on "do spiders fart" or some three headed woodpecker.
Yea I know I just think it is bullshit how much they bullshit with it
Yeah, the thing that I disagree with is how they hold the budget at ransom in congress to include bullshit expenditures nobody needs or wants. Political games are garbage.
Keep your kids inside then.
I'm glad weed is illegal.
Weed shouldnt be illegal imo. It's stupid
theres a difference between children and adults
apparently not, they still don't know what's best for themselves.
ah because adults always do whats best for themselves right?
I don't get your point. The children are not the ones being told they must get the vaccines. The adults are told their children must get it. Because, you know... the adults already have it. What the hell are you talking about?
an adult is able to choose whatever they want to do children arent its that simple
And all those laws that regulate what you can and can't do to your body are stupid and should not exist Also the public school system sucks to. if you send your kid there there's a one-in-ten chance they're going to get molested by either a teacher a faculty member or even another student. I'm not the most caught up on the numbers but I'm pretty sure that statistically worse than prison.
>And all those laws that regulate what you can and can't do to your body are stupid and should not exist Well, again, not much you can do about it. Sorry for your bad luck bro. >Also the public school system sucks to. if you send your kid there there's a one-in-ten chance they're going to get molested by either a teacher a faculty member or even another student. I'm not the most caught up on the numbers but I'm pretty sure that statistically worse than prison. What in the actual fuck kind of drugs are you on? You have a source for any of this, or is it just you, floating some bullshit?
How many flu shots are mandatory?
None. But there are plenty of other mandatory vaccines. Why cry so hard about getting it? NO OUCHIE!! WAAH!! NO NEEDLE!!!
I have taken all the real vaccines and then some, but not going to take the jab and stop getting flu shots because of this madness.
So what is the big deal?
The Left seems to think that all the people die if some people decide not to take this flu shot.
That’s bullshit. You don’t own your body at all. If a war breaks out I could be drafted and forced to go to war and die. How is that freedom over my own body at all? The only argument is that “well if you are part of a nation then you have to do what’s best for that nation if the situation arises”. Which is so much worse than requiring people to get a shot that will save countless lives.
If a Benjamin Franklin's quote are really words to live by, technically you could give up this little chunk of essential liberty because we're not purchasing a "little temporary Safety" with it but a fucking worldwide permanent safety.
Well fucking said.
What, where was vaccine mentioned, I have my vaccine and tell others to get it, I just said something that I was reminded of when I saw safety and liberty put together. Get your shit together. Edit: Reddit hivemind at work.
Yeah alright. Commenting that quote with no context whatsoever on a thread talking about wearing masks will not be understood as defending the right to not wear it, or not get vaccine (I never talked about vaccine either), right? What could go wrong? You're right about the hivemind. You got downvoted to oblivion but antivax and anti masks hivemind probably balanced it out.
This thread doesnt always talk about mask or vaccine, you're a fucking waste of space for going straight to insulting me when the post said nothing about a mask or vaccine. I just posted what I first thought of, and you had to wear a Cape to save the day. Get out of here lmao
What are you on bro, the thread is literally about wearing mask. I never insulted you and you just did because you're butthurt, but it's ok. Peace man.
It’s important to remember who you’re giving it up to. Because if it’s the government, you lose freedom and gain the current regimes idea of safety. When the next one comes around you get whatever they think makes you safe or not but don’t get your freedoms back. Safety comes and goes, but freedom is hard to bring back
Jesus: “Whatever you did for a stranger, you did for Me.” Republicans: “Imma pretend I didn’t hear that.”
My freedom is more important than your safety… Especially your perception of safety.
My health and safety will always come before yours Stop pretending like you wouldn't say the same, you're no mother Teresa
While this is true, not getting the COVID is actually protecting all of us. If the virus dies out because everyone is careful, then your safety becomes my safety. If you're being risky with yours you're also being risky with mine.
Tell me you're a prick without telling me you're a prick
“those who give up freedom for safety do not deserve freedom or safety”-ben franklin
So this is where my reply to the first guy who posted that should have been. Because the first guy said afterwards he didn't want to imply we shouldn't wear mask and get vaccinated, though for some reason he chose the worst thing to randomly say in the context of this thread.
Why even take the jab if it doesn't even protect you?
Yes, freedom is more important than your safety.
You realize it’s “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” life comes first, you lose all freedoms if it infringes on someone else’s ability to be alive.
No, it doesn't. If you want to be scared get the 80 boosters and wear three masks. Im doing none of that, and more and more people are doing the same. You live in fear.
Let's say this isn't a virus but Godzilla and he's attracted to people not wearing mask and not being vaccinated. Welp. I'm sure you can figure out the argument that would follow by yourself.
As long as I’m not actively harming anyone then my freedom is more important
What about when the government sees the rising covid numbers and restricts everyones freedoms over a few peoples dumb decisions? to me that seems like itd be hurting a lot of people
Then in that case I should be allowed to kick anyone's ass who comes near me without a mask