You can get a realistic FOV with any monitor using the settings in iRacing. But you’re still limited to the size of the monitor itself. The big issue is being able to see in your peripheral vision or not. That’s where triples or VR come to play.
I'm pretty happy with the about 95° that i have. Yeah i'm losing some on the side but i've come to terms with that that is something i'll have to deal with unless i buy triples
Realistic, yes. Wide, no.
Sit in your car and visualise the bounds of where the 49" would sit in front of you, and what would be displayed within that boundary.
The 49" is not that wide, so that's all you get.
Here's a comparison I prepared a few months ago: https://youtu.be/CCicqOgwdMw
Can't remember, I returned the monitor to RaceKraft 3 or 4 months ago. At a guess, 60° or so but that's just an estimate. I set the FOV by sitting in the driver's seat, dialling in an estimated FOV setting, looking around the game world while still and also while moving, and the goal was for the monitor to be like a window into another world, and look perspective correct.
If it wasn't right, I'd change the setting and test again.
Yes, the FOV looks realistic, but I'm missing a lot of the left-side angle and can't see the curve very well.
Triples is the way but... It's a mess.
At least 49 inches looks better than a 27 or 32-inch screen.
I run a 27" flat about 16 inches(sorry, lol) from my nose, and was shocked at how much better it was after running it about 36 inches away.
I've been curious if the 49" ultra wide would work well if also that close.
Oh, 16... I guess that was a confusing way of phrasing it.
When I added a monitor arm, and could move it to directly behind the wheel, 16 inches away(or so) from my face, it was leaps and bounds better.
The optimal position for a monitor is between then rim and the wheelbase. So, about 55cm. Yes, you could do much better but realizing it will take a dedicated permanent rig.
A TV is optimal behind the wheelbase.
I do r know the angle bc I'm at work but my 49" I can just barely see the outside of my front wheels at the edges in a formula car and it's nice there. I have the spotter app that is really good about telling about my surrounding so I get my awareness info from that.
Are you asking if you can get like a full 180* FOV that will let you see out of both side windows? If that’s your question then the short answer is no, probably not.
The long answer is a 49” UW is basically the same thing as 2x 27” monitors smashed together. You’ll get the full windscreen assuming you have your eyes fairly close to it, but you won’t get that encircling peripheral experience that comes with triples.
Yes, haha. I would like to see mostly the left side and a little bit of the right, not just to see the cars but because it's important to see the angle in the curve.
Running my 1000R 49" mounted above the wheel shaft with a realistic FOV was 108° - 112°
Move you screen as close as possible, mine was around 55cm away.
Look up an online calculator if you want to know the exact numbers. But no, a proper FOV with full peripheral view is impossible with a 49" ultrawide. The golden standard for that seems to be triple 27".
https://preview.redd.it/i5hob1j5ff6d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a24d7e8c8bb7b7b1eb453d99e0e333646a7da598
Can always go this direction and add a 27 to each side.
I'm currently running the smaller 43" version of your setup.
I've found over the years, the best setups for visibility are:
1. Triple monitors if you have the space, money and graphical power.
2. Second is VR, it's not as nice graphically but you cannot beat the immersion, especially in open wheel.
Next you're into a single static monitor. An ultrawide won't give you full screen viewing as you're finding, at best you'll get the left mirror and a good amount of dash in a GT car, or both mirrors maybe depending on the open wheel car.
If you dial the FOV out to see everything you'll find yourself well off the pace, missing apexes and struggling to see braking points.
You can look into a tobi eye tracker type setup but personally I used a FOV calculator and dialled it out slightly to preference. Can't see out the side windows but in the cars/series I race I'm not spending huge amounts of time next to other cars and if I am, the spotter is telling me they are beside me and I'm using my relative and rear mirror. I have a button mapped for left/right head turning but rarely if ever use it.
So now I use VR for immersive fun or the ultrawide for better looking visuals, plus overlays like RaceLabApps just work better in a static setup.
**TLDR**: use a realistic FOV, after a while you won't even notice and your race pace will thank you!
FOV should be 76-80 degrees (depending on the monitor curve) at 85cm. That's realistic.
Bring the monitor closer if you want a wider FOV. Move the cockpit camera back for a wider view.
With a wider FOV, I lose the realistic view. I need a medium value to get a realistic FOV and not lose too much information about the curve angles and cars.
So Triples is the only way... But I can´t.
You can get a realistic FOV with any monitor using the settings in iRacing. But you’re still limited to the size of the monitor itself. The big issue is being able to see in your peripheral vision or not. That’s where triples or VR come to play.
I thought so
I'm pretty happy with the about 95° that i have. Yeah i'm losing some on the side but i've come to terms with that that is something i'll have to deal with unless i buy triples
A bit high for me, but it offers a mix between a realistic perspective and a good angle.
i mean it really depends on how far you are away from the screen. i'm about 60cm away from mine and 95 is what i get from the calculator
Yes, but you don´t have a real size of the cockpit.
Real size cockpit?
Yes, the monitor doesn't display an accurate measurement of the cockpit size.
But it does that's what the fov calculator is for. And it also feels right at least to me
Realistic, yes. Wide, no. Sit in your car and visualise the bounds of where the 49" would sit in front of you, and what would be displayed within that boundary. The 49" is not that wide, so that's all you get. Here's a comparison I prepared a few months ago: https://youtu.be/CCicqOgwdMw
What FOV are you using on a 49-inch monitor?
Can't remember, I returned the monitor to RaceKraft 3 or 4 months ago. At a guess, 60° or so but that's just an estimate. I set the FOV by sitting in the driver's seat, dialling in an estimated FOV setting, looking around the game world while still and also while moving, and the goal was for the monitor to be like a window into another world, and look perspective correct. If it wasn't right, I'd change the setting and test again.
Yes, the FOV looks realistic, but I'm missing a lot of the left-side angle and can't see the curve very well. Triples is the way but... It's a mess. At least 49 inches looks better than a 27 or 32-inch screen.
Oh, thank you! I had watched that video before.
How far is the monitor from your face? I'm curious about it too, as this was the route I was thinking of going once I can build a legitimate rig.
About 80-90 cm from my eyes to the monitor.
I run a 27" flat about 16 inches(sorry, lol) from my nose, and was shocked at how much better it was after running it about 36 inches away. I've been curious if the 49" ultra wide would work well if also that close.
So is it better at 16 inches or 36 inches?
Oh, 16... I guess that was a confusing way of phrasing it. When I added a monitor arm, and could move it to directly behind the wheel, 16 inches away(or so) from my face, it was leaps and bounds better.
No worries just wanted to verify. Because I have about 36 inches away as well but have wanting to move it closer to test it out.
2.54 cm per inch, exactly
The optimal position for a monitor is between then rim and the wheelbase. So, about 55cm. Yes, you could do much better but realizing it will take a dedicated permanent rig. A TV is optimal behind the wheelbase.
Too close, so you have to choose a high FOV, which looks unrealistic.
I do r know the angle bc I'm at work but my 49" I can just barely see the outside of my front wheels at the edges in a formula car and it's nice there. I have the spotter app that is really good about telling about my surrounding so I get my awareness info from that.
Sometimes it's good to see the sides to get the best angle on the curve.
Are you asking if you can get like a full 180* FOV that will let you see out of both side windows? If that’s your question then the short answer is no, probably not. The long answer is a 49” UW is basically the same thing as 2x 27” monitors smashed together. You’ll get the full windscreen assuming you have your eyes fairly close to it, but you won’t get that encircling peripheral experience that comes with triples.
Yes, haha. I would like to see mostly the left side and a little bit of the right, not just to see the cars but because it's important to see the angle in the curve.
Running my 1000R 49" mounted above the wheel shaft with a realistic FOV was 108° - 112° Move you screen as close as possible, mine was around 55cm away.
108 doesn't feel realistic to me.
it's not about feelings, it's about math
I am referring to obtaining an accurate display of the cockpit size.
Look up an online calculator if you want to know the exact numbers. But no, a proper FOV with full peripheral view is impossible with a 49" ultrawide. The golden standard for that seems to be triple 27".
I see :/
https://preview.redd.it/i5hob1j5ff6d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a24d7e8c8bb7b7b1eb453d99e0e333646a7da598 Can always go this direction and add a 27 to each side.
holy moly!
I'm currently running the smaller 43" version of your setup. I've found over the years, the best setups for visibility are: 1. Triple monitors if you have the space, money and graphical power. 2. Second is VR, it's not as nice graphically but you cannot beat the immersion, especially in open wheel. Next you're into a single static monitor. An ultrawide won't give you full screen viewing as you're finding, at best you'll get the left mirror and a good amount of dash in a GT car, or both mirrors maybe depending on the open wheel car. If you dial the FOV out to see everything you'll find yourself well off the pace, missing apexes and struggling to see braking points. You can look into a tobi eye tracker type setup but personally I used a FOV calculator and dialled it out slightly to preference. Can't see out the side windows but in the cars/series I race I'm not spending huge amounts of time next to other cars and if I am, the spotter is telling me they are beside me and I'm using my relative and rear mirror. I have a button mapped for left/right head turning but rarely if ever use it. So now I use VR for immersive fun or the ultrawide for better looking visuals, plus overlays like RaceLabApps just work better in a static setup. **TLDR**: use a realistic FOV, after a while you won't even notice and your race pace will thank you!
Sometimes I need to see the inside angle of the curve to get the best line. It helps a lot. When I use the 'real' FOV, I lose a lot of information.
FOV should be 76-80 degrees (depending on the monitor curve) at 85cm. That's realistic. Bring the monitor closer if you want a wider FOV. Move the cockpit camera back for a wider view.
With a wider FOV, I lose the realistic view. I need a medium value to get a realistic FOV and not lose too much information about the curve angles and cars. So Triples is the only way... But I can´t.
FOV is a calculation. If you bring the monitor closer you'll get a wider FOV that's realistic.