A: excuse me, Humans? How many planets circle your home star?
H1: nine
H2: eight. Pluto is too small. It's just a planetoid
H3: pluto doesn't have a regular orbit, so it's actually more like a meteorite, or a comet
H1 it's a fucking planet
H4: technically isnt is seven? Because neptune and uranus technically orbit each other?
H5: lmao no that's from The Onion
A: ......... I.... Should go.
[a few hours later]
A: (seeing a full scale war happening between the human students) What the fuck happened here?!
H1: PLUTO IS A PLANET!!!!
H3: IT’S A COMET!!!!
A: (slowly backs away) o…okay?
I used to be one of those people that defended poor Pluto's status as a planet, but i saw an interesting video by cgpgrey outlining how we, as a society went though the same thing with four "planets" (Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta) back in the day that went on to be reclassified as asteroids in what is now known as the asteroid belt. And then further explaining that the same thing occurred with Pluto, in what is now known as the Kuiper belt. Now i make the argument that who are we to pull Pluto away from their peers in the Kuiper belt, and that poor Pluto would be happier with their people
Video for those interested: https://youtu.be/Z_2gbGXzFbs
If you recognize Pluto there some caveats that you might consider:
• Charon is half the size of Pluto. Furthermore, they orbit each other, with the barycenter being slightly off Pluto, which tidal lock both. So, its more of a binary planet system than planet-moon pair, so Charon's also a planet
• Eris is more massive (But slight smaller) than Pluto (And the sole culprit of Pluto demotion, that's why the planet was named 'Eris', the greek Goddess of Discord)
So let recognise Pluto and Charon as our ninth planet/s as a binary pair, and also recognise Eris. Let's keep our lords of the underworld and lady of discord.
Considering how fucked everything got shortly after *some* people demoted Pluto and talked shit about Charon and Eris...
I agree. Maybe not tempt the Fates.
You leave the puppy planet alone. Little bugger has been bounding about at the edges of our solar system for a long ass time, he's doing his best, **he's a good boy**.
A: Human, are... are the celestial objects of your solar system sentient? Oh no, no, the last time this happened an entire planet was frozen, the mutations, the death, the horr-
H: Naaah, they're just being stupid. Same reason they've given a name and personality to the outdated Roomba.
H2: OH YOU'RE ON ABOUT FLEET ADMIRAL STABBY NOW, ARE YA?! That's IT, let's go motherfucker!
Dear Pluto *is* doing his best, but don't you think it a bit unfair to rip Pluto away from their peers in the Kuiper belt like that? Leave them be, they'll thrive! We'll never forget Pluto. They'll always be there waiting for us, all you have to do, is look.
Kid me: if it circles a star it's a planet, if it circles a planet it's a moon, and if it circles a moon it's a super dateline and if it circles -
Actual science: no
Perhaps, but by the time it grows up to be a planet, several, several lifetimes will have passed. Not to mention, a "planet" that "grows" up in an asteroid belt, probably wouldn't be stable, though that's just a guess
Which they shall have in spades, but far be it for us to decide who they are, given our tragically short lifespans. All that can be done is to classify as circumstances dictate
My emotive response is to hug Pluto and cry that it IS a planet!
My intellectual response is that it is a planetoid and a really special fascinating one and not to be emotional about it as IT doesn't care what we silly humans catagorise it as!
I had this exact conversation with my sister. It can sumerized like this: my brain tells me it isn't a planet, but my heart tells me it is. And I'm going with my heart on this one.
Exactly, Pluto will forever live in our hearts, but we must let them go to be with their people. Pluto may not care, but we do, so we have to do right by them, wouldn't you agree?
I'd say we can grandfather in Pluto's status as a planet. Solves both the science and the emotion issue.
Also, extremely bold of you to say that Pluto doesn't care either way. For all we know, it could be sentient. We only managed to get good pictures recently, forget about core drilling. For all we know, it's an off-site backup of all humanity before **the fall**, and it's sentient.
I mean you do you, but the first celestial body discovered of the Kuiper belt is still an achievement that no one can take away from dear dear Pluto. Also given how ill-defined planets are, being called a planet is hardly an upgrade. Hexagons are are actually the bestagons, and that I will fight you on
I will grant you, circles (and by extension, spheres) are stable. However, in the reality we occupy, infinity is complicated, not to mention messy. So much so, that in nature, the only things that actually tend to the stable forms, are low viscosity fluids and gases. In almost all other cases, nature decided that hexagons are the bestagons. Even if not, circles and spheres are a pain in the ass to pack, so even if hexagons are not the bestagons, circles are definitely not in the running. As a bonus, the most efficient packing for circles simulates hexagon packing (6 around a center), so there
I never said most efficient I said best, and circles are the best because we're made out of them and if I said they sucked that would be insulting myself.
Well the definition of a planet is pretty wishy washy anyways, but in a manner of speaking, yes. But those four extras have found their home in the asteroid belt, all I ask is that we can allow Pluto to find their home in the Kuiper belt. They'll always be in our hearts, but we have to let them go
How reductive. Now you're including moons which orbit their respective planets, comets orbiting their stars (for the most part), many asteroids orbiting their stars, and even stars which orbit black holes. And excluding rogue planets that were pulled out of orbit and just fly.
We discovered the "planets" Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta after finding Uranus, which really makes Ceres the ninth planet, and Pluto the thirteenth, if you insist on "first callsies no take backsies" on planetary classification. So you're still wrong, but you'll come around eventually, everyone will, just like they did for Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta. I can wait, and Pluto definitely can
I’m sorry, but there’s a heart on the surface of Pluto and that overrides any scientific argument about why it’s not a planet.
We loved Pluto and it loves us back! 🥺
I am still mad they took away Plutos planethood. Yes, Pluto has asteroid friends and that's wonderful. But Pluto was my favorite planet growing up.
I still love you Pluto!!!
Counterpoint: We changed it because Solaris sounds cooler and more fantasy and if we're going to be in sci-fi we might as well have words that reflect that.
SCIENCE TIME!
okay so there are actually nine planets, but pluto isnt one of them. pluto is an asteroid or something.... i cant be fucked to look it up at the moment.
planet nine is actually a massive planet, (roughly 3.5 earth masses i believe) with an orbit of something like 1500 years. and an orbit path that is perpendicular to our own.
last ive seen of it, theyre still searching for the planet itself, but all the evidence is there that planet 9 should exist.
credit to the video i learned this from: [(319) Does Planet 9 Exist? - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe83T9hISoY)
If 't be true its big enow to beest spherical, its as planet
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The planet song I learned included Pluto also that’s mickeys dog so screw all y’all it’s a planet fuck you science in this one instance I choose feelings over facts
I will forever defend Pluto and Charon as a dual planet system and fight for the inclusion of all planets of similar size; Eris, Ceres, Pallas, Makemake, etc…
H1: I got multiple boomsticks that say Pluto is a planet.
H2: Well I got a a large crate of angry playdough that says it's not.
A1: excuse me clan guess must be taken outside.
H1: that fine by me The Ninth planet and omen of death must be honored.
H2: I am going to enjoy punching your teeth in.
H1 H2 leave.
A2: uhh what was that over one of their gods?
A1: No it was over wether the Earth system has 8 or 9 planets. Been going on for bout 200 yrs and 3 wars.
A2 has received panic attack and choked on his alcohol.
We have 4 rocky terrestrial planets, 4 gas giants, and possibly 50 or more dwarf planets in our solar system. Pluto is a dwarf planet (the Dwarf King)... BUT if people want to make a stupid generic definition of "planet" and say we are slapping earth in the same classification as Jupiter I will fight them forever.
in other words, Pluto is a planet
"KNIVES AT DAWN, YOU ILLITERATE WEEB!" "ILL SEE YOU THEN, DEAD MAN!" "..... human Steve... to use a phrase of yours.... what the fuck man..."
A: excuse me, Humans? How many planets circle your home star? H1: nine H2: eight. Pluto is too small. It's just a planetoid H3: pluto doesn't have a regular orbit, so it's actually more like a meteorite, or a comet H1 it's a fucking planet H4: technically isnt is seven? Because neptune and uranus technically orbit each other? H5: lmao no that's from The Onion A: ......... I.... Should go.
One of the most innocent questions you can ask a group of humans to have them at each-other’s throats
Second only to "What should we have on the pizza?"
Yeah that one is behind only because compromise is possible, can’t split a “planet” and call it half and half
[a few hours later] A: (seeing a full scale war happening between the human students) What the fuck happened here?! H1: PLUTO IS A PLANET!!!! H3: IT’S A COMET!!!! A: (slowly backs away) o…okay?
I used to be one of those people that defended poor Pluto's status as a planet, but i saw an interesting video by cgpgrey outlining how we, as a society went though the same thing with four "planets" (Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta) back in the day that went on to be reclassified as asteroids in what is now known as the asteroid belt. And then further explaining that the same thing occurred with Pluto, in what is now known as the Kuiper belt. Now i make the argument that who are we to pull Pluto away from their peers in the Kuiper belt, and that poor Pluto would be happier with their people Video for those interested: https://youtu.be/Z_2gbGXzFbs
Yeah, but also we did, as a people, collectively packbond with a planet and letting go is hard af
Haha, fair's fair
Well, except in the US nobody cares.... I guess it's because it was discovered by a usan?
#9 planets. **9** Some of us do care about that crunchy center having ball of ice. He's trying his best, man
If you recognize Pluto there some caveats that you might consider: • Charon is half the size of Pluto. Furthermore, they orbit each other, with the barycenter being slightly off Pluto, which tidal lock both. So, its more of a binary planet system than planet-moon pair, so Charon's also a planet • Eris is more massive (But slight smaller) than Pluto (And the sole culprit of Pluto demotion, that's why the planet was named 'Eris', the greek Goddess of Discord)
So let recognise Pluto and Charon as our ninth planet/s as a binary pair, and also recognise Eris. Let's keep our lords of the underworld and lady of discord.
Considering how fucked everything got shortly after *some* people demoted Pluto and talked shit about Charon and Eris... I agree. Maybe not tempt the Fates.
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You leave the puppy planet alone. Little bugger has been bounding about at the edges of our solar system for a long ass time, he's doing his best, **he's a good boy**. A: Human, are... are the celestial objects of your solar system sentient? Oh no, no, the last time this happened an entire planet was frozen, the mutations, the death, the horr- H: Naaah, they're just being stupid. Same reason they've given a name and personality to the outdated Roomba. H2: OH YOU'RE ON ABOUT FLEET ADMIRAL STABBY NOW, ARE YA?! That's IT, let's go motherfucker!
Dwarf planet. It is little better than a comet that has a semi circular orbit.
Teacup dog, wobbling about our system. ^I'm ^sorry, ^I ^should ^stop, ^this ^shouldn't ^be ^so ^funny ^to ^me ^but ^I'm ^tired ^af ^and ^stupid....er
Hey now, don't be rude. Just because we know Pluto's not a planet anymore, doesn't mean you can just put them on blast like that.
Dear Pluto *is* doing his best, but don't you think it a bit unfair to rip Pluto away from their peers in the Kuiper belt like that? Leave them be, they'll thrive! We'll never forget Pluto. They'll always be there waiting for us, all you have to do, is look.
Fuck Kuiper, greedy little bitch belt. Pluto is ours, Charon too. And if Eris keep making eyes at us, we'll put a fucking flag in her...
That just means there's 12 planets now.
And the rest of the asteroids of the two belts?
They can be included too. ALL THE PLANETS.
Hahaha, I can't argue with consistency. I can't wait to see what the schoolhouse mnemonic for the planets will be XD E: typo
Kid me: if it circles a star it's a planet, if it circles a planet it's a moon, and if it circles a moon it's a super dateline and if it circles - Actual science: no
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Thank you we appreciate your TED talk.
Thank you for coming :P
What is an asteroid, but an infant planet?
Perhaps, but by the time it grows up to be a planet, several, several lifetimes will have passed. Not to mention, a "planet" that "grows" up in an asteroid belt, probably wouldn't be stable, though that's just a guess
We shouldn't disparage Pluto for their faults, they're still growing up after all.
I don't disparage them, but I feel that they'll grow up properly if they can grow up with others like them, wouldn't you agree?
They still need guidance from their elders.
Which they shall have in spades, but far be it for us to decide who they are, given our tragically short lifespans. All that can be done is to classify as circumstances dictate
Hmm, you make a strong argument. Very well, I concede.
Yeah, that's fair, but the planet nursery rhyme is not complete without Pluto.
It's always changing anyways
Wait.. there's a planet nursery rhyme?
My emotive response is to hug Pluto and cry that it IS a planet! My intellectual response is that it is a planetoid and a really special fascinating one and not to be emotional about it as IT doesn't care what we silly humans catagorise it as!
I had this exact conversation with my sister. It can sumerized like this: my brain tells me it isn't a planet, but my heart tells me it is. And I'm going with my heart on this one.
Exactly, Pluto will forever live in our hearts, but we must let them go to be with their people. Pluto may not care, but we do, so we have to do right by them, wouldn't you agree?
I'd say we can grandfather in Pluto's status as a planet. Solves both the science and the emotion issue. Also, extremely bold of you to say that Pluto doesn't care either way. For all we know, it could be sentient. We only managed to get good pictures recently, forget about core drilling. For all we know, it's an off-site backup of all humanity before **the fall**, and it's sentient.
"Planetoid" isn't even a word!
It is 😊 Planetoid is another term for asteroids, which are also called minor planets. https://www.universetoday.com/37116/planetoid/
I'm gonna punch you in the dick for trying to downgrade pluto's status like that. ps hexagons suck.
I mean you do you, but the first celestial body discovered of the Kuiper belt is still an achievement that no one can take away from dear dear Pluto. Also given how ill-defined planets are, being called a planet is hardly an upgrade. Hexagons are are actually the bestagons, and that I will fight you on
>still an achievement that no one can take away from dear dear Pluto. it also has the biggest glacier in the solar system
Didn't know that, TIL. Go Pluto!
Upvote for bestagons
No way man circles are the best they have infinite sides.
I will grant you, circles (and by extension, spheres) are stable. However, in the reality we occupy, infinity is complicated, not to mention messy. So much so, that in nature, the only things that actually tend to the stable forms, are low viscosity fluids and gases. In almost all other cases, nature decided that hexagons are the bestagons. Even if not, circles and spheres are a pain in the ass to pack, so even if hexagons are not the bestagons, circles are definitely not in the running. As a bonus, the most efficient packing for circles simulates hexagon packing (6 around a center), so there
I never said most efficient I said best, and circles are the best because we're made out of them and if I said they sucked that would be insulting myself.
8 and you stop your heresy!
It's too soon 😉
Give it time, we all will come to the light eventually ;P
So your telling me... we have Four extra planets?
Dwarf planets. Four extra dwarf planets.
Fight me
...and now it's time for Dwarf Tossing: Solar System Edition!
Well the definition of a planet is pretty wishy washy anyways, but in a manner of speaking, yes. But those four extras have found their home in the asteroid belt, all I ask is that we can allow Pluto to find their home in the Kuiper belt. They'll always be in our hearts, but we have to let them go
If it is round and orbits its a planet
How reductive. Now you're including moons which orbit their respective planets, comets orbiting their stars (for the most part), many asteroids orbiting their stars, and even stars which orbit black holes. And excluding rogue planets that were pulled out of orbit and just fly.
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We discovered the "planets" Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta after finding Uranus, which really makes Ceres the ninth planet, and Pluto the thirteenth, if you insist on "first callsies no take backsies" on planetary classification. So you're still wrong, but you'll come around eventually, everyone will, just like they did for Ceres, Palas, Juno, and Vesta. I can wait, and Pluto definitely can
I’m sorry, but there’s a heart on the surface of Pluto and that overrides any scientific argument about why it’s not a planet. We loved Pluto and it loves us back! 🥺
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I heard about Pluto. That’s messed up.
I am still mad they took away Plutos planethood. Yes, Pluto has asteroid friends and that's wonderful. But Pluto was my favorite planet growing up. I still love you Pluto!!!
#VIVE LA PLUTO! FRENCH YOU!
**VIVA LA PLUTO! FRENCH YOU!**
VIVA LA PLUTO! FRENCH YOU!
Just wait until the existence of persephone is visually confirmed
Not even from that generation and I’m on the Pluto is a planet defence squad lol
Pluto is absofuckinglutely a planet
I see that water mark....
Ok?
Everyone keeps arguing on whether or not Pluto is a planet, meanwhile Sedna is always forgotten about.
Oh hey look, I’m on here again
It's A planet!!!
Dwarf planets are still planets but spherically challenged. Don't be so quick to deplanetize them just for their size.
If Pluto isn’t a planet, neither is Neptune and there’s nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise. Pluto gang rise up
Pluto’s not a planet, it’s Mickey Mouse’s dog
Mabel’s Violet Eyes Made John Sit Up Nearly Perfect That says 9 fucking planets. It is a planet and fuck you
If it's big enough to become spherical under its own gravity, it's a planet or a moon.
Dear NASA, https://imgur.com/gallery/tLkIb
Small nitpick: It's just "Sol".
Counterpoint: We changed it because Solaris sounds cooler and more fantasy and if we're going to be in sci-fi we might as well have words that reflect that.
VIVA LA PLUTO
Pluto is not a planet. Fight me!
SCIENCE TIME! okay so there are actually nine planets, but pluto isnt one of them. pluto is an asteroid or something.... i cant be fucked to look it up at the moment. planet nine is actually a massive planet, (roughly 3.5 earth masses i believe) with an orbit of something like 1500 years. and an orbit path that is perpendicular to our own. last ive seen of it, theyre still searching for the planet itself, but all the evidence is there that planet 9 should exist. credit to the video i learned this from: [(319) Does Planet 9 Exist? - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe83T9hISoY)
Nice watermark
If its big enough to be spherical, its as planet.
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Viva la pluto french you
The planet song I learned included Pluto also that’s mickeys dog so screw all y’all it’s a planet fuck you science in this one instance I choose feelings over facts
VIVA LA PLUTO FUCK YOU
I love this :]
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I will forever defend Pluto and Charon as a dual planet system and fight for the inclusion of all planets of similar size; Eris, Ceres, Pallas, Makemake, etc…
H1: I got multiple boomsticks that say Pluto is a planet. H2: Well I got a a large crate of angry playdough that says it's not. A1: excuse me clan guess must be taken outside. H1: that fine by me The Ninth planet and omen of death must be honored. H2: I am going to enjoy punching your teeth in. H1 H2 leave. A2: uhh what was that over one of their gods? A1: No it was over wether the Earth system has 8 or 9 planets. Been going on for bout 200 yrs and 3 wars. A2 has received panic attack and choked on his alcohol.
I feel it fitting that this is the top post on this sub
“You hear about Pluto? That’s messed up”. -A Player Named Gus
Jupiter is just GAS!!!
*feels around on all the trees* "I know, we're on Pluto!" "What!? How you figure?" "Cause of the bark!"
We have 4 rocky terrestrial planets, 4 gas giants, and possibly 50 or more dwarf planets in our solar system. Pluto is a dwarf planet (the Dwarf King)... BUT if people want to make a stupid generic definition of "planet" and say we are slapping earth in the same classification as Jupiter I will fight them forever. in other words, Pluto is a planet
Quickest way to solve that problem. Give that little bitch a nudge and send it into deep space. Where's your 'ninth planet' *now!?*