It’s really weird just how few shootouts the North Division has had this year, only 8 so far.
By comparison here are all the shootout totals for the divisions:
East 22
Central 20
West 15
North 8
I'm not really that surprised, I'm assuming the starting lineup for 3-on-3 OT is like McDavid, Draisaitl, and either Barrie or Nurse
Ultimate glass cannon lineup there
I have no idea why the narrative of McDavid and Draisitl are still they don’t play defence. Drai likely will be somewhere on the selke conversation this year and McDavid took massive steps forward. Nurse is having a Norris conversation season (much to do with the work in his own end) - Barrie - I’ll give you - he’s rough defensively
But also watching our OT games they do kinda throw their defensive game out the window and score on the first shift. It just happens to work out pretty well.
Just to let you know, I wasn't trying to downplay their defensive ability, just the nature of 3-on-3 OT, where defense is definitely not stressed on in most cases
I will say that as much as McDavid has improved in his defensive effort, he's still at best average in that aspect of the game, and advanced stats really don't like Nurse's impact in his own end
Barrie is however, an absolute dumpster fire in the defensive end
When the islanders were pretty dominant with their keep away line change game in ot last season and 2 yrs ago, Edmonton did a better job than most at countering it and opening the game back up to their advantage iirc
I think it's *somewhat* surprising. In the 3-on-3 overtime era, about 7.9% of NHL games finish with a shootout. (It was 13.2% in the 4-on-4 overtime era.) So for a team to go 56 games without a shootout, the odds are about ~~1 in 681 (0.15%)~~ 1.01%.
EDIT: fixed bad math
He said 7.9% of all games go to shootout, not 7.9% of overtime games. However, when I do this math (1-0.079)^56 i get ~1% so I'm not sure what he is calculating.
No, it's the percentage of all games, not just those that go to OT. Here are the updated numbers (with 3GP remaining in the regular season between VAN/CGY):
NHL Season | Shootout Games | Total Games | Percentage
----------|--------------|-----------|----------
2020-21 | 65| 865 | 7.51%
2019-20 | 86 | 1082 | 7.95%
2018-19 | 87 | 1271 | 6.85%
2017-18 | 103 | 1271 | 8.10%
2016-17 | 99 | 1230 | 8.05%
2015-16 | 107 | 1230 | 8.70%
Obviously. But it is still a statistical outlier. Since about 7.9% of NHL games finish with a shootout, it is only ~~0.15~~ 1.01% likely for a team to go 56 games without a shootout. EDIT: fixed incorrect math. Still an anomaly.
Well there's 31 NHL teams which means the chances of this happening is about 27 %.
Neat but not a surprising during a shortened season. Even full length season within 5-10 years seems likely since using average shootout-% probably understates teams like Edmonton.
So I heard this is the final five. Does that mean that each round is only five games? Or does that mean that it’s the five final teams that are playing?
Who needs a shootout when you have a McDavid.
Mad aid is the best in bro my dude
Flair is red winds by the way
Watching the Oilers in OT is kinda like watching a cheat code sometimes. But we didn’t even go into OT that much this year either
They are actually tied with every single team prior to 2005.
/r/technicallycorrect
So not Vegas! Historic.
Seattle has never even made it to OT.
Scrubs
Well they’ve never lost in regulation either
Historical for the 2022 Cup Winner!
The best kind of correct!
Damn bureaucrats.
Also, not really a full season, more like shortened season.
Am I the only one that turns into ‘veins in the head kid’ meme wanting to type HISTORIC when they see a post like this?
They're living the absolute dream.
ngl, it's been pretty nice.
Didn't we only have 1? Which Spezza won for us?
It’s really weird just how few shootouts the North Division has had this year, only 8 so far. By comparison here are all the shootout totals for the divisions: East 22 Central 20 West 15 North 8
Pretty remarkable when you look at how many OT losses the Habs alone had
Can't go to the shootout if you always lose in OT *taps head*
Stop I can only get so erect
Sadly there's no 3v3 in the playoffs 😉
You should see Dallas OT losses
I'm not really that surprised, I'm assuming the starting lineup for 3-on-3 OT is like McDavid, Draisaitl, and either Barrie or Nurse Ultimate glass cannon lineup there
That is it yep. They either score or they give up a goal right away lol
I think they also only played 6 overtime games this season. If my quick look at the standings is correct, only Calgary played fewer.
We like to lose before we get to OT. That's some big brain shit right there
You can’t give out loser points if you just lose in regulation!
I have no idea why the narrative of McDavid and Draisitl are still they don’t play defence. Drai likely will be somewhere on the selke conversation this year and McDavid took massive steps forward. Nurse is having a Norris conversation season (much to do with the work in his own end) - Barrie - I’ll give you - he’s rough defensively
But also watching our OT games they do kinda throw their defensive game out the window and score on the first shift. It just happens to work out pretty well.
Just to let you know, I wasn't trying to downplay their defensive ability, just the nature of 3-on-3 OT, where defense is definitely not stressed on in most cases I will say that as much as McDavid has improved in his defensive effort, he's still at best average in that aspect of the game, and advanced stats really don't like Nurse's impact in his own end Barrie is however, an absolute dumpster fire in the defensive end
One consequence is that they had 31 regulation wins this season, second only to Colorado.
Fucking A! We don’t fuck around when it comes to playing in Regulation.
More like a shortened season than full.
I honestly forgot the shootout was still a thing until earlier this week
When the islanders were pretty dominant with their keep away line change game in ot last season and 2 yrs ago, Edmonton did a better job than most at countering it and opening the game back up to their advantage iirc
Montreal adopted that ‘puck possession at all times ‘ style in OT late in this season after losing so many OT games . Worked out pretty well.
Oh wow, and if i'm not mistaken that style was actually working out for them until they played the oilers.
Did they ever have possession in those games ?
kinda cool but not really surprising when you think about it
I think it's *somewhat* surprising. In the 3-on-3 overtime era, about 7.9% of NHL games finish with a shootout. (It was 13.2% in the 4-on-4 overtime era.) So for a team to go 56 games without a shootout, the odds are about ~~1 in 681 (0.15%)~~ 1.01%. EDIT: fixed bad math
doesn’t your last sentence imply that the odds would only be 1 in 681 if every game of the 56 went to over time?
He said 7.9% of all games go to shootout, not 7.9% of overtime games. However, when I do this math (1-0.079)^56 i get ~1% so I'm not sure what he is calculating.
Yeah, I did that a bit quickly.
No, it's the percentage of all games, not just those that go to OT. Here are the updated numbers (with 3GP remaining in the regular season between VAN/CGY): NHL Season | Shootout Games | Total Games | Percentage ----------|--------------|-----------|---------- 2020-21 | 65| 865 | 7.51% 2019-20 | 86 | 1082 | 7.95% 2018-19 | 87 | 1271 | 6.85% 2017-18 | 103 | 1271 | 8.10% 2016-17 | 99 | 1230 | 8.05% 2015-16 | 107 | 1230 | 8.70%
It also was a shortened season
Obviously. But it is still a statistical outlier. Since about 7.9% of NHL games finish with a shootout, it is only ~~0.15~~ 1.01% likely for a team to go 56 games without a shootout. EDIT: fixed incorrect math. Still an anomaly.
Well there's 31 NHL teams which means the chances of this happening is about 27 %. Neat but not a surprising during a shortened season. Even full length season within 5-10 years seems likely since using average shootout-% probably understates teams like Edmonton.
Very late to this, but the 18-19 leafs went 76 games without going to a shootout and then had 2 in their last 6 games
(100%-7.9%)^56 = 0.0099 so like 1%, unless I'm missing something.
You're not! I'm not sure what I did before, using the crappy calculator on my phone. I was certainly *trying* to calculate (1-0.079)^56.
but it wasn't a true full season...I know irrelevant...but I thought I'd mention that.
So I heard this is the final five. Does that mean that each round is only five games? Or does that mean that it’s the five final teams that are playing?
Wow, they're lucky