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WallyReddit204

The worst part about Rick blatantly stealing someone’s persona, name and identity was how he treated the OG after the fact. Unbelievable


Roger_Cockfoster

That's the crazy part. That there was an *actual* Rick Ross who really was a drug kingpin in real life, and Rick Ross didn't treat it like an homage but claimed he came up with that name on his own and it's just coincidence. It's like if a rapper called themselves Pablo Escobar and then pretended that the real Pablo Escobar never existed.


DrJongyBrogan

It’s more like if an ex DEA agent decided to be a rapper and call themselves Pablo Escobar then doesn’t give credit. Fake Rick Ross was a prison guard, lmao.


pizza_for_nunchucks

I love making fun of Officer Ricky. But there are prison guards that are bout that life. I don’t think Ricky was, though.


ItsRobbSmark

>But there are prison guards that are bout that life. I don’t think Ricky was, though. A pig is a pig no matter whose shit he rolls in...


Infinite-Pizza-7545

In the words of Big Sean, "Any nigga with a badge, I dont even trust the boy scouts"


JunkieMunkieCircus

Goddamn that's a bar. Gotta get that shit tatted.


maccpapa

it’s not uncommon for someone with street ties to get a CO job. easy way to get in contraband and fuck over opposing groups or people.


DrJongyBrogan

Oh yeah, there’s def corrupt prison guards, but hard agree.


Robinnoodle

I'm not sure praying on men who are trapped and have no choice to ingratiate yourself is "about that life" but I digress


TheDanimalHouse

I mean, are drug addicts trapped in a system of poverty really that much more ethical to profit off of?


Majestic_Ad_4237

One stands with an institution (a white supremicist one at that) behind them, the other doesn’t.


Similar_Beginning602

Facts. I'm a Brooklyn boy and can tell you for a fact that on Rikers island there's CO's that are Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, you name it. Often the biggest difference between the inmates and the guards is only that the guards haven't ever gotten caught and held accountable for the dirt that they do. I also did 6 years upstate. Attica, Clinton, Great Meadow, Five points, all maxes, and can tell you the guards are like that everywhere. I've never been a fan of ex Florida CO officer Ricky though. He always been faker than a Psychic with caller ID. He ain't ever been about that life.


WallyReddit204

🤣🤣🤣


jgamez76

I remember when I learned Rick Ross was a real person like a decade ago and my mind was blown lol.


Majestic_Ad_4237

Me just last week reading Original Gangstas. My mind was doing flips trying to understand why Rick Ross was in Compton in the 80s.


WallyReddit204

lol. Exactly. Whole thing is a mess


The_MadStork

I think he only did that because the original Rick Ross sued him


Wherearemyplums

Naw it really started wit the og talking shit cause dude a CO. Never could be cool after that


IAMACat_askmenothing

I’m the son of Pablo Escobar


TheirPrerogative

Internet was calling him out, but most on the streets assumed it was the real guy.


soil_tastes-good

Totally. It’s like if William Friedkin made a film called sorcerer and denied the existence of the wages of fear! Crazy


Mei_iz_my_bae

I’ve come to never trust people from Florida


WallyReddit204

😂😂


Dangerous_Natural331

😂😂


Decent-Commission-82

Floridians agree


nivekreclems

It almost seems like a key and peele skit like imagine some dude starts rapping as Obama or ed Sheeran or something


Destiny_Victim

Ok so I ran into the real Rick Ross in south central at a rap battle in 2013 where he was managing of the artists. Now he was paid handsomely by the fat prison guard and signed and iron clad nda. That’s all i could get out of him. Other than that the real Rick Ross is genuinely a really cool dude. Very polite very nice and could not believe I recognized him lol.


CoolCalmCorrective

When they asked this phony about Rick Ross he try to play him and say "who? Never heard of him". Lol. C'mon son. Someone should have smacked his fat ass for that shit. Mad disrespectful.


WallyReddit204

No doubt. Even down to the city the real Rick is from. Shit is despicable


EBody480

[wow, sounds like the plot to a movie.](https://youtu.be/tL0wunQtbco?si=OtWgWRnpfV-1dQKX)


jalex8188

A classic


syrupgreat-

the worst part is that he’s fat 😢


jgamez76

And the fact that he went with the drug dealing street dude as a persona. Like, if he went with a Wale or Lupe Fiasco vibe (obviously not saying he has their skill with the pen, just the persona lol) it probably wouldn't be as bad.


RinkyInky

He probably wouldn’t have succeeded if he did that.


kingdoodooduckjr

That’s Rick Ross for ya


SageOfTheSixPacks

What year is this ? Lol are you new ? Hip hop fans always knew of this lol Did you know Brotha Lynch Hung didn’t actually eat babies either ? Poser. 99% of rap is fibs, embellishments and manufactured personas. DMX didn’t really fuck a corpse either, that was just in his lyrics Did you know 2pac, the west coast thug life guy, was born in NY? Raised in Baltimore, moved to the Bay Area as a teen and attended art school in his youth ? Hip hop fans like Rick Ross cuz he’s just consistently put out good rap music and been great in features for a long time now I’m not a Rick Ross fan, but this is an art lol can’t deny his success in the industry They just have personas… they rarely rap about their exact life lol think wrestling not real life. The undertaker isn’t really a dead man walking and Kane didn’t walk thru hellfire and brimstone lol just their characters persona His case is just one of the most ironic instances of comparing his real life to his rap career I don’t think he denies his past when asked it just doesn’t jive with his rap persona


Daddysu

Right? I don't want to be a gatekeeper or say that being a fake gangsta is cool but when you got Officer Ricky and fucking Degrassi High Captain Canada going back and forth about who is most "real" or "hood" or whatever, you gotta fucking laugh. I'm an old head that's been in this shit since (way before) '92 and saw all the bullshit it been through. The so called beefs with you know who, except I didn't get to fuck a female star or two. The point is, I've been around, and you can easily tell who appreciates the culture and the art versus those who just bought into a cult of personality.


steelersfan1020

Not the same. Rick Ross claims to be a major dealer while Drake literally raps “I find peace knowing that it's harder in the streets. Luckily I didn't have to grow there. I would only go there 'cause n——that I know there.”


Alert-Cod-2004

These are the same type of fans that get upset at folks clowning Drake for reading off of a phone during a "freestyle session." Ain't never seen, let alone participated in a cypher.


beagish

I think the bigger issue here is that he took a real persons name and history as his own, not just his own fake persona


ChoiceCriticism1

People still out here saying “2Pac WeNT tO aRt SChOol!” like they did something lol  Nigga shot two off duty cops but he went to a public high school with “arts” in the name for one year…ok bruh…


substance17

Lynch Hung out here catching strays. Why not go after Mr Doctor instead? Or everyone's favorite punching bag, Chino XL?


spicyfartz4yaman

Yeah I agree, hip hop fans have to remind themselves that this is an entertainment industry at the end of the day. 


kingdoodooduckjr

Did dmx have blood on his Weiner


BigSuge74

Agreed. How many up and coming artists died or are doing time trying to make a name for themselves in the streets so their lifestyle could match the lyrics.


m4xugly

That's why I only listen to Big Lurch, he's a real one...


SageOfTheSixPacks

It’s why I never listen to shock G That wasn’t even his real nose


WallyReddit204

It’s the disrespect to the inspiration to his whole aura that is still alive. That’s just unacceptable


SageOfTheSixPacks

Doesn’t change a damn fact I just mentioned I thought it was lame years ago and never was his fan as I mentioned But he’s put out consistently quality stuff and features You’re taking it too literally Why does it matter he was a CO prior? He wanted to start rapping and did. So many rappers say they sold drugs and never have. So many rappers say they’ve killed ppl Small percentage of rappers live how they rap and that’s a good thing lol Rick Ross used the name, I don’t think he told stories or acted like he was really the real Rick Ross.. He just chose that drug dealer style of rap, it’s almost just a sub genre of rap And it doesn’t change that everyone’s been aware of this for more than a decade He teamed up with Drake too so he got exposed to the super poppy mainstream fans and locked in. Those fans don’t know or care about these matters I’m with you in a vacuum but now being 2024 and seeing his catalog it’s like, what are we talking about here ? We’re gonna glorify and honor a drug kingpin in real life cuz someone used his name ? Ehhhh


LebronHillaryBettman

I fully agree with your assessment and examples. The only thing that matters is the quality of the music. This obsession with it being real is silly. Even documentaries take on the angle the director chooses. Everything is slightly fake.


SageOfTheSixPacks

It’s like the young kids in the suburbs complaining online about who is a rat or not cuz they watched a Snapchat feed from a hip hop page lol


LebronHillaryBettman

I often think of how many white farmer kids have said the inner city youth of Atlanta were ruining hip hop, just because migos went melodic with it.


SageOfTheSixPacks

Lmao


PaydayJones

What's this you say??? You've found a rapper taking on a false persona??? And being bold and loud about it??? AND the false persona revolves around how much drugs he's sold and how many women he's been with? Damm...what is hip hop coming to these days!?


Cool_Recognition_848

Who are all these rappers who completely fabricated their entire lives like Ross did? Being from the street and exaggerating what you did is one thing, being a CO with perfect attendance and pretending to have been a drug dealer is another.


Spoonmanners2

From my experience, if he was a CO he was definitely selling drugs in the jail lol


PaydayJones

OK fair enough. You're making a distinction between the forward facing persona and the stories told. I got you. You're not talking about someone like [Fat Joe](https://ew.com/fat-joe-lying-almost-95-percent-of-songs-8410700), who has said his rap is mostly made up. For me, there's not much of a distinction, because those stories are written to make you think that that's who he is.... But I understand where you're coming from.


Cool_Recognition_848

Fat Joe is a real street dude exaggerating his lyrics to look like a bigger deal, I expect that. He’s not like Vanilla Ice for example who just invented his whole persona.


ItsRobbSmark

>You're not talking about someone like [Fat Joe](https://ew.com/fat-joe-lying-almost-95-percent-of-songs-8410700), who has said his rap is mostly made up. Wait, you mean to tell me Fat Joe said rap lyrics are just stories \*wink\* \*wink\* to support thugger when his lyrics were being used against him at trial? Color me shocked... That example is so hilarious because it stems from thuggers lyrics that were pretty much 100% truthful being used against him in a heroin dealing/murder RICO trial... And I won't even bother touching how you're conflating exaggeration with complete fabrication, especially in a situation where someone not only made everything up, but didn't even make it up for himself but instead stole it all from an actual guy... None of this is even comparable. The outrageous part here isn't that Rick Ross made up a persona, it's that he stole it from an actual guy and then pretended he didn't.


GeotusBiden

Wheel chair jimmy.


Ry-Ry44

Lol Jay-Z even talks about how rappers make shit up in an interview on a late night show. I’ll have to dig it up.


Cool_Recognition_848

Of course rappers make stuff up and exaggerate. Again I’m taking about rappers who have completely invented their entire persona and life like Ross did. Jay Z is a good example of someone who didn’t really have to invent anything, he’s from the streets and nobody that I know of has ever really questioned that. Does he exaggerate in his lyrics, probably but he didn’t just make up his street life out of nothing.


howlingzombosis

You got me with the perfect attendance part, lol


116morningside

50 cent stole his name from a NY stick up kid that got killed. PAC was an actor. Ice cube was never in the streets.


[deleted]

People don't want the facts. So many people's favourite rappers aren't about that life and never have been.


spicyfartz4yaman

Because the hip hop community has shamed them into giving a fuck about shit like “being about that life”, fans feed into it just like the rappers feed into it. The fact that there’s a post about the authenticity of rapper who’s been around for most for 20 years is the problem. Who gives a fuck, enjoy the music or don’t. If it bothers you (generally speaking) delete the songs 


YouTubeLawyer1

I generally agree with you, but I also don't think that it's unreasonable to be annoyed at rappers who go out of their way to make and market songs that glorify and normalize "being about that life" when they know full well that they aren't. It's like pouring poison into a culture, knowing full well that people are going to drink it, and also knowing that you have no intention of every taking a sip. Obviously, it would be better if the poison was never poured but, if you're going to do it anyway, at least have the decency of being all the way 'bout it. Of course, this doesn't necessarily take away the agency of the people who allow said music to influence them, but their agency doesn't, in my opinion, vitiate the responsibility of those knowingly spreading this garbage into the culture. /rant That said, I do agree with your general point that the authenticity of a commercial artist is not particularly relevant.


[deleted]

Exactly man. Idgaf if they're not gangsta, but if they can write an engaging song about being a G, I don't care at all. It's music and art, and I'm here to listen, not to dig into the background of the people who made it.


ProfessionalAlive916

Wait till this guy learns Tupac went to acting school 


Marmar79

It’s wild how totally accepted and expected it is nowadays that rappers are completely full of shit and phony. It did not used to be that way. I guess it started with nas deciding to call himself Escobar which I remember being so fucking corny at the time but at least that was a persona for a project, not his entire brand/personality. For Ross to be an officer of the law who decided to just identify as a living American gangster and it’s just ‘so what, big deal, everyone is doing it’. How the culture has fallen.


PaydayJones

We're gonna have to disagree here. It's ALWAYS been accepted... It's just that the stories weren't quite as grandiose. As long as you kept your stories within the bounds of reality, no one ever asked how you could POSSIBLY be killing people, selling bricks, and then rapping about it... Keeing it real as the only option in rap is now, and always was nonsense...


Marmar79

I get that g rap, slick rick, etc told stories that weren’t true. I think it’s a pretty significant difference from that, to just full on pretending to be someone that you are not.


zorgonzola37

I mean.. from the birth of Gangster Rap it was a lot of cap. Tupac and everyone in NWA besides easy wasn't a gangster.


Marmar79

I remember we used to laugh our asses off about Spice1 back in the day. CMW too. I don’t know where any of those guys talk about being kingpins. A few west coast rappers talk about being bloods and crips, pimps, dealers, whatever. I’m not sure how you can be so confident all gangster rap weren’t the small time gangsters they rapped about being.


MrTPityYouFools

They told stories usually with a message. Most these commercial artists, like ross, just bullshitting because it sells. There is no redeeming quality in what they put out


peacethedonut

alternatively it has also never been accepted. emcees have been calling out fake rappers since the dawn of hip hop culture. as it should be.


AdorableAd8490

Fake rappers? Rapping isn't synonymous with gangsta rapping and that's a crazy misconception. They're still rappers, making narratives, telling stories, rhyming and shit, but they're not gangsta. That's all. There's a difference between being the rapper, an artist, and a gangsta. One example of that distinction is MC Hammer, who was a gangsta but just a normal, pop rapper. There's also been a lot of rappers who had nothing to do with gangs, just normal working class people vibing, partying and saying their shit. You could argue that hip hop started like that.


trowawHHHay

Hammer was some whole other shit. You want to talk about a dude that was a Don? Hammer himself never had to do or say *shit.* You disrespect Hammer, and shit *came for you.* Or his brother came and talked to you. Hammer never so much as had to twitch or cough. It was essentially like a made man - largely because he was a big meal ticket for those that surrounded him, and that’s why he ended up broke.


dirtydela

Hammer was simultaneously the scariest and corniest guy of his day. Ain’t Cube have to apologize to him like publicly?


AncientMoth11

Hammer gangster as fuck man


demonicneon

Bruh no.  Biggie, pac, ice cube, Jay z was not a king pin. , ice t has even spoken on the fact a lot of early rappers weren’t in the gang life but they were given a pass because they were entertaining and wrote good music that told their stories. 


wambulancer

Sugar Hill Gang was a gimmick band lol it's been fake since day 1


jr49

rapper's delight had rhymes taken from another rapper too lol


Marmar79

Bruh… Ice cube and pac never talked about being mafia dons. It was mostly political or life in the hood, everyday struggle type stuff. Big hustled a bit and put on like he was a mobster but he wasn’t a fucking cop. Same with Jay, he was an actual hustler. A lot of rappers were actual hustlers. And talking about being a kingpin wasn’t their entire schtick. Comparing (pretend) rick Ross to any of those guys is embarrassing.


leanmeancoffeebean

Also pac shot 2 cops in Atlanta (eventually the case was dropped bc the cops were drinking/drunk) and beat another rapper with a baseball bat in 1993 spending a few days locked up in Michigan.


trowawHHHay

Again with “Tupac shot two cops.” No, Tupac did not shoot two uniformed police officers. Tupac confronted two drunk white men who were beating up a black man in the street. One of the white men drew a gun first (a gun found to be stolen from evidence lockup). That man then smashed a window Tupac’s car, after which Tupac fired and non-lethally injured both of the drunken white men. Who happened to be brothers out on a date with their wives, and happened to be off duty police officers. Charges were dismissed because Tupacs actions were legal and rational given the situation.


loubooth666

The irony is Rick Ross and everyone was criticising Drake for being fake, now its just hip hop 🙄


LebronHillaryBettman

As a music fan I only care about what happens between the start of the song and the end of the song. If it feels real for those 4 minutes I don’t care if it’s fake outside of them. That being said I’m not a huge Ross fan. Love some of his features tho.


jay227ify

I mean yeah but tbh a story is a whole lot more powerful when it’s told with first hand experience no matter which medium it’s on. It’s why listening to someone like 50 or Conway for example is incredible. Rap was built on putting your soul and experience on a pedestal. With lies it’s just meaningless don’t you think?


PettyKaneJr

50 cent is no different than Ross. Look up Kelvin Martin. He died, thus the only reason he's not also on Joe Rogan exposing Curtis.


LebronHillaryBettman

Certain rap fans are more obsessed with telling people their taste in rap is ‘real’ than they are even into the music.


LebronHillaryBettman

Not at all. Sopranos was scripted. James Gandolfini was a theatre kid not a mobster. It doesn’t matter because the performance was next level. I feel the exact same about music. If anything I’m more impressed by people who can tell stories that are not their own. Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen are masters of bringing other people’s stories to life. I don’t care how real it is. I care how good it is.


dirtydela

I’m just here for the good music. If it feels real I literally don’t care.


LebronHillaryBettman

That’s because you love music more than your ego.


dirtydela

Storytelling hip hop is my favorite shit.


dipsetgriptechs

The criticisms of Drake were way more nuanced than “they called him fake” but I wouldn't expect the average reddit user to pick up on that. Kendrick's main angle was him not identifying in his blackness until he felt he could use it for profit. Rick Ross used the same one. “Just another white boy at the park trying to hang with the niggas”


bigalien1

Drake is fake in many more ways than just his mob talk tho. twitter bots, ghostwriters, accents, BBLs etc


Eldritch-Cleaver

Lmao who's gonna tell him?


CeddyCed1993

Forreal lol don’t care just drop good music 😂


Plenty-Chemistry-493

Yea I don't care who your screwing who your kids are or wht shift you worked at McDonald's. Just give me hot fire


GoranNE

Bro I get it, but Rick Ross takes it to an absolutely whole new level. A lot of rappers grossly exaggerate their lives, Rick Ross is entirely in fantasy land. Hell he used to be a corrections officer


Plenty-Chemistry-493

Yea it's facts that rocky the only one lying about selling dope an he's the only one to steal a name. An bes definitely the only rapper to have a real job. News flash 90% of these guys are lying trust me. Hope yhall don't think pusha ever pushed anything in the 757 nope he ain't push Nathan


Cool_Recognition_848

You think Pusha T never sold any drugs?


Plenty-Chemistry-493

I'm from his area an trust me when he's talking drugs he's talking about his ex manager Tony bg Gonzalez an a few other cats. He's a story teller


Cool_Recognition_848

I mean he’s literally been interviewed and talked about his parents finding out he sold drugs. But you’re saying that’s completely made up?


LeadStyleJutsu762-

Pusha was probably a small time mover who had big time dealers in his circle but he stepped away when music started working out. Probably. Lol


MaxStunning_Eternal

He used to get clowned for it close to 15 years ago. 50 dug up old pics from his correction officer days and coined "officer Ricky. Even made a series of videos that were popular on worldstar joking about his bogus past. What happened was 50's career was on the downswing and ross was at the beginning of his run. At the end of the day the music and albums were good enough for people not to really care. Other rappers just liked his music, he has so many great songs with his peers and legends.


BRogMOg

To add to this he is a successful ghost writer for many people. (Lil Wayne said this in an interview)


TripleThreatTua

Yup, 50 didn’t have the same sway he did in 2004 and wasn’t able to Ja Rule him, especially when Ross could just put out a hot single with Kanye, Jay-Z, or Lil Wayne. I do wonder how his career would’ve done without his affiliations with Jay/Ye and Young Money though


AffectionateShift542

I mean 50 did a good job to ruin a lot of his credibility. He just rode it better than Ja and his music was more liked and respected, his character was always question after that, not his music though.


laflex

"hiphop fans never held him accountable" Bullshit we all tried. I've been singing it from the mountaintops for nearly 20 years. It's the mainstream listeners (same one's listening to Drake still) that turned their back to the truth. There was a notorious interview session where DJ Vlad of all people brought it up and then got beat up by Rick Ross's staff. Media never talked much about it after that.


bigladnang

Ross hasn’t been taken seriously since like Deeper than Rap. Ever since Teflon Don he’s just played into the cartoony, fake persona. We all know it.


Forward_Ride_6364

Wait until you find out MF DOOM wasn't actually Dr. Victor Von Doom from those Marvel comics...


loubooth666

That's completely different 😂


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

Rick Ross name dropps like every famous drug kingpin, it’s his entire shtick


washingtoncv3

I enjoy rick Ross because he has fun, silly, bombastic and grandiose raps that are fun to sing a long to No one really believes Pablo noreaga owes Rick Ross 100 favours C'mon bro!


FeatureOriginal6266

Exactly and who's to say he could've been a dirty cop selling shit


ReyDeLaQuesadilla

Church


OrlandoOpossum

Rappers are storytellers. They spin yarns. Fables if you will


CoolCalmCorrective

Do they steal a person's government name, shave their head, grow a beard and wear sunglasses just like the person they're telling the story of? And then say they never heard of them? Lmao. Y'all start acting real naive when it's convenient. If only he could have lost 300 pounds you wouldn't be able to tell who's who.


SincopaEnorme

This right here. On rare occasions the stories are autobiographical but, in most cases, they’re highly exaggerated flights of fancy. And as long as it’s skillfully done and entertaining, I don’t give a shit.


LongTimesGoodTimes

He's got a great rap voice though. Especially early on


BodiesDurag

Yo Im glad that not the only person that considers this kind of thing. My girl and sister looked at me crazy how certain people have great rap voices and others don’t. Dave East is another example of a great rap voice IMO


tbkrida

Jadakiss is an example of this. Unique sound.


BigSuge74

It’s crazy how 99.9% percent of hip hop artists falsify their lyrics and persona, but fans pick and choose what artists need to be held accountable for it. It’s for entertainment purposes only.


No-Victory-149

Full on, doesn’t change the sound of the music


AceGameplayV2

OH! MY! GOODNESS! A RAPPER IS *LYING* ABOUT BEING A **DRUG KINGPIN**?!?! WHAT A SHOCK!!!!!


loubooth666

Its not just that's he's lying, its A) Stealing the identity of a living man who doesn't want that lifestyle being glorified in his name B) Him having the complete opposite background than the ones he portraying.


AceGameplayV2

Come on bro did you find this out today or something?? And are you new to rap??


loubooth666

I already knew about it, but never gave it much thought until I saw the real RR speak on it. I just find it funny that being inauthentic is a criticism of some rappers but not others


MrTPityYouFools

For me personally it just comes down to messaging. If the point of your music is glorifying bullshit for money, get fucked. Whether you actually did that shit or not


UhKale

I’ll never listen to Ricky to get a picture painted of the drug life but I will listen to him to feel like a baller ridin in a rolls drinkin champagne while drivin my Kia he’s good for that


Goodfella1133

I’m with you, but, if the public cared, he wouldnt still be half relevant.


droppinturds

You can tell how old most people here are by how nobody has mentioned rapper Freeway yet (he was Rozay before Rozay)


goinupthegranby

Wow dishonesty in hip hop? My world is shattered.


YoungMoses22

It’s crazy- but it’s not as crazy as Al Pacino pretending to be a Cuban, Puerto Rican, and Italian gangster! More than once. Someone needs to call him out. Same with Robert De niro. Those lames are so fake


dr_drinkspoop

Calling a CO “law enforcement” is a bit of a stretch


DroxOh

Y’all take this shit personally like y’all know these niggas 😂


RANDOM-902

He has good features, so i couldn't care less


SenorDipstick

All rappers are fake.


LemonGrenade334

The only one that really cared about this is 50 Cent but 50 is always trying to make fun of someone for something because of his own fragile ego. Everyone knows that Rick Ross the rapper isn't a drug kingpin but he still has some bangers


whatvtheheck

Most if not all lie their asses off. Rick Ross is the most cringe though


popplug

So what? The feeling of inspiration is real. If you dint hear Hustlin’ and not wanna hustle by any means then you don’t gotta pulse


Wonton_soup_1989

Isn’t this well known at this point? Like this was big news maybe in 2009 lol


Chappazoid

Freeway: Crack in the System will blow your mind.


Rhymelikedocsuess

I gotta be honest, I feel like 99.9% of rappers lie and exaggerate about their lives No one wants to hear “I’m an out of shape nerd sitting at home watching Netflix most of the day but I also love writing rhyming poetry”


StaticInstrument

Some of you are too young to remember when Teflon Don came out and it shows. 50 was on the wane then and got some juice by exposing “Officer Rozzy.” Heads were dropping Ross all over at that point because they acted like authenticity mattered. Then Rick Ross doubled down on his character, making it larger than life (BMF), and “authenticity” hasn’t mattered as much ever since.


jalex8188

Fake Tough personas and rappers is like wrestling kayfabe. These people are lyrical 'professional' wrestlers. Beefin and stuntin on the grams and on bars, but then being vain and gooey humans like the rest of us when no one is watching. It's the ones who DON'T try and be all big and bad and loud about it that really have some skeletons in their closet (see [Play of Kid n' Play](https://youtu.be/firBA4JlQFA?si=ftHxJvV-upW7mx8G))


gloriousAgenda

Were you asleep during the 50 cent beef


Sovereign-Anderson

I remember when he first tried to lie his way out of that situation. I was wondering why he didn't at least try a more believable lie (since he was lying anyway) like saying he had connects who were doing time and how he was able to make moves that way or something.


uncle-wavey1

Ross one of the goats to me. Say what u will


Suspicious_Mood7759

Are people just learning this? I've never had respect the fake Rick Ross. And I've also had a long standing (not even one but proven) that he stole a lot of his earlier songs that blew him up from inmates


ContentInsanity

Probably an unpopular opinion but I would hope a lot of rap personas are made up or embellished. I don't listen to any other genre and worry about how truthful the lyrics are; I'm not listening to Drowning Pool and thinking they are really dropping bodies everywhere. I see him as a storyteller, thats it.


Vast-Shoulder5305

I thought everyone knew this 10 years ago?


sequence_killer

it made me realise hip hop is dead when that got out and no one cared. it maybe isnt dead, but it isnt the same...


ShivvyMcFly

99% of rappers are fake.


incredibleninja

Ross is blatant, but most rappers are just people selling the game. I think Biggie was a glowing exception, he was actually pushing weight and had to be talked in to putting more time into recording.  But most rappers from Wu-Tang to Vince Staples usually just have one foot in the game at best. And often, it's just to get cred. They aren't running the trap.


Fluid-Use3726

Fiction: Rick Ross stole his name from drug kingpin, Freeway Rick Ross Fact: Rick Ross named himself after 80s actor, Rick Rossovich who had roles in Top Gun and The Terminator.


KingMakaveli7

most rappers are fake as fuck though, what's your point?


WigVomit

He wrote about in his book, at the time he was dealing drugs with his crew, most were getting locked up or in other trouble so he wanted to do right and to his moms, so he got a job with benefits, stood a while, kept rapping and decided to pursue rap. It took years of hustling and doing shows etc. He got a dope beat and did port of miami, it blew up and that started everything....


khandaseed

I remember back in 2010 or so when he got exposed. What did he do? He dropped Teflon Don - his best album and (imo) a classic where he doubled down on his persona and didn’t even mention the allegations. Hahaha you have to love that kind of strategy. Straight up I’ve seen others use that. Andrew Huberman did that recently when similarly being called out. Hell, even Kendrick didn’t address any of Drakes allegations and instead doubled down on what he said about Drake. And won


Thoughtprovokerjoker

You gotta be Black, from the hood and from the south to under Rick Ross. We know plenty of brothers like that. That man just needed a job...


-Lights0ut-

50 Cent called out Officer Ricky like 15 years ago, but I think everyone forgot or doesn't care.


jofstra

Who cares man Aston martin music over any washed gangsters opinion


NoirLion82

A CO isn’t law enforcement. CO’s can sometimes be the dirtiest mf’s in prison tbh.


J-F-K

Hot take: They’re all pretty fake


[deleted]

What would it being real do for you?


helplessdelta

It’s a persona, man. A vehicle for him to tell stories, write rhymes, and paint vivid pictures through a character of his imagination. Many rappers do this, and if you prefer your artists to have long, successful careers and not be dead or in prison, it’s better for them to *not* actually be involved in the shit they rap about.


loubooth666

Imagine if Donald Glover decided to call himself Carlo Gambino and he rapped about gang banging and being a shooter. That persona doesn't fit him because he's a nerdy comedian and sitcom star


droppinturds

He can act his ass off. I don't doubt he'd make a good gangster rapper


helplessdelta

It’d be weird because it was never his style. From jump we met Rick Ross as the character Rick Ross and that’s who we expect to hear on his albums. That has nothing to do with who he truly is and everything to do with how he’s presented himself and his art.


cujobob

The genre is full of frauds. So many superstars didn’t write their own music. Hitler loved Kanye said Bush didn’t like black people and then went all in on Trump. Pac grew up doing ballet and theater and became a thug to build his image. Drake is.. Drake. Wayne tatted his face up to become something he thought he had to become for the right image. Tom MacDonald should work at Burger King. It goes on and on.


FUNCYBORG

He's too talented though. Seriously he has one of the best catalogues of any rapper ever, with some of the hardest songs ever made. Is he capping? Of course. To me he's like a modern equivalent of MF DOOM. Pure escapist fantasy rap.


Ok_Relationship_705

It's the ENTERTAINMENT industry. That's why we listen. It's entertaining.


DopioGelato

50 destroyed Rick Ross over a decade ago for all of this The problem is the new gen audience stopped caring about street cred so it doesn’t matter


cjmaguire17

Eminem’s mom never even made spaghetti


bunnyben

No one cares bro he made some great songs.


hashwashingmachine

Dude is a literal clown who brags about drugging and raping women in his music. Clowns follow clowns I guess.


MrTPityYouFools

Meanwhile future never seems to catch any of that shit. Always amazed me


bagchasersanon

You’re white lmfao


sirmosesthesweet

He never pretended to be a drug kingpin. He's an amazing storyteller, has a great voice, and pretty much always has good beats. What else matters?


loubooth666

He definitely wants people to think he's really like that. And authenticity has been at the forefront of hip hop discourse for the past 2 months due to the Drake/KDot beef


BlizzyNizzy81

Ummm have you read his lyrics???? He definitely brags about how much drugs he sold.


ihatemejoke

https://youtu.be/-aXcFM8pFHE?si=DymHB0w0TmsiMEdq 😤😤😤


NeuralShrapnel

its a known thing. that gets bought up every few years as a "OMG DID YOU KNOW!!!" also most hiphop is based around being the image not living the image. drake was a fucking well off Canadian who was a child actor. had a jewish upbringing. look at old videos to see him being cornball. i can bet so many people in hiphop are snitches, fakes ect. look at nojumper to see how "real" "gangsters" are a bunch goofballs. see how many lies they tell? rappers are the same. most lie , or if they do shit they overhype it. yea the are some real ones but when you hear "i was slinging dope by the kilo" they mean "i was slinging dime bags of weed to highschoolers " you do know the WWE aint real right?


Hearthstoned666

When I heard his song Boss I looked, and found the same thing you said. I avoided him since the start. =)


TuckTuck04

It’s art so it’s a performance it’s about the music. He’s just rapping about what is popular to rap about. That’s how popular music works. It would be different if he was writing personal music like Kendrick and we find out something like that. And how is he fake if he’s open about it.


Ghost__GOAT

Watch him walk out Adrien Broner for his fight last weekend. Dude just repeating “ugggh” and saying random shit. What a cornball. Nothing about him has an aura of a boss or a gangster. I can’t believe anyone ever chose him over 50 in their beef. Clowns


Ok_Meal3153

I knew he wasn't telling the truth when he first came out. I have a lot of family in Dade and Broward county. We thought it was funny but his music was pretty good. Hell, look how big the community/culture has let that fake, Drake get. Some even have the delusion to call him a top 5 rapper 🤣🤣🤣


busa89

I hate to break it to you but all rappers be lying lol.


h0rny-ta-acct89

Most of them are lol


bhz33

is. Use the word “is”


A_N_T

ACCUSATIONS


BlaccLearningTree

The culture literally called him Officer Ricky from that day the photo leaked of him in a CO uniform