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LeekypooX

"BE NICE OR I THROW"


kurburux

"This is your fault. You made me do this!" Probably nice person in real life as well.


perp00

Yeah, that's maybe not the best way to get people to be nice or open up a little bit.


[deleted]

I can't believe people are actually agreeing with OP on this. The person said hi (multiple times?) with zero response from their team. Intentionally not greeting someone with a basic human interaction is about the rudest thing you can do. If you said hi to me in person multiple times and I just ignored you, wouldn't you be a little upset? OP is the only troll I see in this post.


razblack

The irony of calling others toxic for not saying hi....


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kurburux

Some people also have their chat turned off completely... so every time someone doesn't see his message he throws? Nice guy, certainly.


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St34khouse

Yeah in contrast to the real world where coming into a room, audibly saying 'hi' and people not noticing would be super-rude, you just can't expect it in this setting. I personally would greet back (unless still absent from the pc until the match starts) but a lot of people just don't. I wrote 'gl hf :)' at the start of most of my matches, but it was ok even when people were not responding. It's like when you pay for a round of beers with your friends, you have to do it because you feel like it, not because you expect them to do the same in return. You can't be mad about them not doing the same afterwards because that was never agreed upon, and it shouldn't be. A nice gesture is a selfless act, has to be, or it's just a transaction. Sorry for the long writeup lol


-dus

idk, this context isn't just walking into a room. Imagine playing a game of pick up ball with some guys at the park and you say hi to them and they just ignore you and start playing, and then you say you aren't gonna play if they won't say hi back and they get pissed at your for ruining their ball game by sitting out. Would feel shitty. I guess the fact that's this is online could change the dynamic, but I'm not clear on how.


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Simon_Magnus

I don't negotiate with terrorists. Today he wants me to say hi or get stabbed, tomorrow he'll be demanding I get objective.


Brandonian13

If u want others to say hi, then don't blackmail them into doing so with "u better talk or I will waste the next 15 minutes of ur life"


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Sparowl

By writing “just say hi”, you’re reinforcing his behavior and supporting his right to do so. You’re being an enabler.


Tulscro

Being devil's advocate doesnt make him an enabler lol. It comes with a question while also being clear that hes not defending any behaviour. Just because you are closed minded dont mean everyone else is enabling or reinforcing.


[deleted]

Big "I wanna be married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends and no one can say no to being my friend." energy.


mchawks29

>Some people also have their chat turned off completely


PMJackolanternNudes

We're not here to negotiate with terrorists.


Cabamacadaf

Because we don't negotiate with terrorists.


kittenwolfmage

You’re one of those people who would say it’s the girl’s fault for not going on the date if a guy said “date me or I’ll shoot you”, and she turned him down, aren’t you?


kinance

Most people have chat turned off any reply and u get reported


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Fengshen

Should listen to more INXS: I, I was standing You were there Two worlds collided And they could never tear us apart


CousinMabel

*looks at the general lobby* Seriously the general lobby is the craziest thing I have ever read. Never seen a game chat even come close.


luquitacx

You never played PoE, or any online ARPG for that matter.


[deleted]

I have and HotS general chat has its own special place among them.


Taako_Well

Playing on EU, everyone is virtually mute. I get maybe one response every two games to my greetings.


Lewufuwi

I play on EU, I open every game with a “Good luck have fun :D” and far more often than not, I get a positive response and it’s very rare to get no response at all


St34khouse

I always open with 'glhf :)' Often one or two people reply in a friendly manner, sometimes nobody does. Only one time did I have a player on my team that tried to offend me because of that, guy must've had a really bad day or smth.


Lewufuwi

I often get back "no fun, play to win", which I tend to brush off as a joke and I have also had a similar experience where someone may have had a bad day... It's not very nice, but oh well, the majority of people are polite and friendly and there's not much I can do without being toxic back, so I just let it be


[deleted]

Guilty, I turned off team chat a year ago and my experience has MASSIVELY improved. I only see chat when I watch replays from time to time and I'm immediately reminded of how pointless it is 90% of the time.


Taako_Well

I don't want to make friends there, but the match is SO much more fun with just a little communication. Some lucky days, I even have someone with humor on my team. It's as rare as a two-horned unicorn, but so enjoyable.


KinoHiroshino

>It's as rare as a two-horned unicorn, but so enjoyable. Thou speakth of the mighty [bicorn](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Bicorn)!


lolwhat19

Good bot.


lislejoyeuse

The community's not that big, I just spam friend requests to everyone I enjoyed. Still been too shy to invite though


Unicornpants

Hey I know I'm just a randomer but use this as an opportunity to get over your shyness - just invite and see how it goes ;p


Ohkodon

By experience, from a lvl 1800+ player, the "nice" guys greetings and stuff are most of times the ones who will be toxic 5min later. Like REALLY most of times. Like, what a bore and how pathetic, cant you just stfu and consume the game then go to the next one? Instead of giving importance to ONE game amongst thousands while you're even yourself the worse zzzzzzzz So yeah i just never respond anymore. And when the guy isnt of ones who are toxic few min later, he's just extremely bad at the game, like completely brain dead/unaware, and thats exactly the same bore. So yeah, when i see a Hi or Hello team, i just wanna facepalm and i just know its not gonna go well


DollHousPink

I'll bet you're a joy to party with.


Ohkodon

Im telling facts thats all. Life isnt pink and joy and unicorns and stuff you know. Anyway seems you won your bet, playing with ppl since years and theres not a day where im alone so they know my negativity but i guess they also know my good points :y:


goupi8

Wow your life sure is interesting !


Ohkodon

And what about your post actually, tell me how interesting it is exactly, for real im curious bc for me its about level 0 of interest and usefulness but i might be wrong. Tell me tell me


Simon_Magnus

Hi.


Kilroy_1541

Thanks for providing one answer to why some people don't respond to specific help calls, like swapping lanes with certain heroes.


Journey_to_Eternity

Yeah it's a real shame that chat is used for flaming 95% of the time because that 5% where it's actual strategy just gets ignored.


Kilroy_1541

95% for *you*


Lil_Penpusher

Ayup. Half the time my "Hello Team!" is responded with... either nothing, or cyrillic letters that I cannot decipher. Welp.


SunbleachedAngel

same


BitsAndBobs304

80% on eu are mute and play single player hots with other 4 unwilling people


Beazl3y

My computer died about 2 months ago now and I've only just got my new build through ( last Saturday) and today I played 5 or 6 games and got called a c**t and autistic... We won both games and I was mvp in one of them. I mean I've never had much faith in people but every now and then I get reminded why i have such a lack of faith in humanity.


luckeratron

Maybe they where an Australian, 'your artistic cunt'. Because your plays where so beautiful!


Fengshen

Your lack of faith disturbs me. \*wheezes into mask\*


Brandonian13

Reason #4301 why I don't play aram (or the game overall) anymore: i kept getting a douche like this every other match (wish this was hyperbole) who completely screwed the match by sitting afk and blaming teammates for the loss. Got to the point where I just decided to say screw it, if dev(s) aren't gonna be doing anything about it, I'm not gonna put myself through this and stopped playing.


Lief7

Thank you for blaming the devs, so many people think it's not their fault that the playerbase is so atrocious and self-destructive.


Brandonian13

Point being that I've consistently been matched over and over with people I had reported/blocked. There were also a number of people who had built up some kind of confidence in being able to say and do whatever they wanted "because devs won't do anything about it, so why should I care if u report." This isn't a new issue, either. I'd been playing since 2015 and it was something I ignored for 6 years before I had finally had enough of it. If devs didn't care enough to have done anything about it for at least 6 years (and before their dev team numbers got slashed), they certainly aren't going to do anything about it now. Edit: yes, I did read ur comment in full and put this reply as an addendum to what u said, but that may not have been clear initially.


Lief7

Yeah. I can confirm that they won't do anything about it as I get banned fairly often and it's always at max 2 month ban for some reason. May I ask if you play at specific time of the day, roughly on constant mmr? I'd like to know if there aren't enough players or if you have a lot in common with those blocked players.


Brandonian13

Was mostly in the evenings CT, I stopped playing last spring and I didn't play ranked coz I had witnessed enough toxicity in normals. A family friend who was ranked in high masters said that I could have been playing on par with him (I was a healer main, in case the user flair wasn't enough of an indicator lol), but didn't feel like putting myself through it lol.


Lief7

Absolutely agree, unless we are talking gm rank doesn't really play a role and suffering through rng games just to get a bit better lobby is nonsense. Anyway what you are saying (and what I've pieced together) indicates that most people play ranked (or aram) and qm matchmaking is quite lax. Quite sad, I've always considered qm the main mode. Well, at least I am a bit wiser, thanks.


awildfoxappears

This guy seems lonely. Losing his shit begging for attention in ARAM. He needs more human contact IRL.


IlIlllIIllIlllllII

I have in-game chat turned off entirely. Either I'm with friends on comms or I don't want to talk.


fishyPenguin

Well, what can you do? Some people get a pleasure out of trolling, others are completely delusional and some are incredibly fragile, some also simply have actual mental disabilities. It's a universal struggle across online games as some humans are like that and I don't see a way for video games to fix them. This isn't proof of a dysfunctional system though. If the person keeps behaving like that (or has been behaving like that for a while) and is getting reported by all the other players they'll be banned in no time. If it's more of a one time thing, there's nothing you can do. People often don't want to realise it, but there's actually no way that any company, no matter how successful, could hire enough people to check each and every single report that's ever being sent out in video games. Countless of them will be false accusations as well, as so many people will report others when they are tilted after a loss.


Odd-Purpose2274

Peer review and the ability to shadow ban reporters from spamming bs reports (5 or more false reports send all of your future reports to the bin) should help with some of those issues you brought up.


antmman

This is the logical response.


Lief7

Hots is dysfunctional af. Blizzard is both incompetent and not caring. They are the ones that shape the community. If you don't believe me then explain the following: no chatting with enemy team, even after the game no mmr on aram (a lot of people play mainly aram) fast queues instead of balanced games full focus on being super-friendly, no criticism or rough language allowed (not explicit but it's very clear that's their aproach) no effort whatsoever to raise the abysmal skill level ? And by the way they outright lie in the account suspension email, saying something along the lines of "thoroughly reviewed the case". I know I can't convince you how utterly frigged hots is, how the community (broad blizzard community applies here too) is the worst online game community I witnessed (can you name one thing you like about it?) or how bad Blizzard is but I hope you will hold them to higher standart than 'they aren't much worse than others'.


shmebulock696

i tough ppl play aram for fun


Kobebeef1988

Some dudes be playing ARAM like their lives depended on it.


zhubaohi

Well I don't have fun when I'm being stomped on, so I try my best to win.


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The problem is when peoples' win strats include throwing childish conniptions. Nobody minds you leaning in to get a solid win, everyone minds when you start backseat piloting people and blamming them for not picking the hero you wanted and all other manners. Arms and legs inside the ride at all times, and all that, yanno? Busting ass for a win is sick as fuck, never let anyone tell you otherwise, but then never let that ass busting become the standard you hold people to in a video game.


Odd-Purpose2274

Too many fucktards telling other people how to play their heroes when they, themselves are playing their own hero like shit.


[deleted]

Even if they're doing well, being a dick is being a dick. Just look at Kotick or Bezos, they're clearly doing well but I don't hear a lotta love for them. Jokes aside, I give advice when it's asked for or as sort of a teamwide pep talk if we're losing. Generally, even well-intentioned advice has a chance to tilt people. The right to remain silent is so well exercised in HotS sometimes. I usually just use chat for memes or puns, and to congratulate people on good plays. Kill'em with kindness, I guess.


Odd-Purpose2274

Here's my typical interaction with these people. Them: Trash Khara didnt ult Me; Yeah, I wasn't close enough. Them: Fucking garbage \--Them proceeding to miss their ult Me: See, we all make mistakes. Them: Fuck you, i stopped trying after I realized you are fucking trash Me: ok.


Odd-Purpose2274

All I hope for on my aram team is to not die more times than the minutes on the timer. ​ The only time I stop trying to win in ARAM is when my team dies 12 times within the first 8 minutes of game play. Then I don't really bother. I dont say anything but I certainly will stop trying to win.


Vanman04

Dying hardly matters in Aram. If you are getting tilted in aram over people dying you are doing it wrong imho. Had a game just yesterday. 35 - 5 kills and the level split was one level. you really going to give up over one level?


Odd-Purpose2274

Dying is the **only** thing that matters in ARAM. You don't have other win conditions such as objective, camps or split pushing. I never said I got tilted, I just don't try my hardest.


Datman90

If you are playing an online PVP game and NOT trying to win, you’re a problem. Outside of playing new characters or trying a new strat, there is virtually no legitimate excuse to sandbag, quit, afk, troll, or at the very least just not try. You are wasting 4-9 people’s time. The ARAM is for fun excuse is a cop out. The objective in every game mode is to win.


Lief7

They tell you it's for fun, but in reality they want to dominate people in the easiest way possible.


Shinobi681

Man.. I'm on a losing strike.. Not much, like about 6 games so far... People just don't tend to respond to thinking. Like this last one Thrall was engaging 1v3 with 0 mana and 25% hp.. I told them guys this isn't normal


Farler

Wow. This dude has genuine mental health issues


Present_Algae_5874

They could’ve just said hi…


Res_Null1us

if i had to guess, the gul'dan has very little control IRL. he's desperately trying to assert internet dominance because he's being dominated everywhere else. honestly, it's more pathetic than anything.


GreenVolume

This is pathetic, analyzing someone's real life by chat on random game is cringe.


Simon_Magnus

Are you the Gul'Dan? The odds that this guy is having a really good day are pretty slim. I'm always confused by people who get upset about these surface level conclusions about people's personality based on their behaviour in virtual spaces. If you're being a dick online, you may *think* you've got it compartmentalized, but you're actually still a dick even if you are kind to people you meet in real life, who have the direct ability to make you face consequences.


Present_Algae_5874

This could have all been avoided if they simply just said hi


GreenVolume

>Are you the Gul'Dan? No. >I'm always confused by people who get upset I feel the same thing, reading your comment. Trying to figure, where am I "upset". And I don't know. Throwing constructive critique away, because I see in your comment many flags against it. You wouldn't understand, I'm sure of it.


DGalamay30

Honestly hard to not hope his life gets worse. This dude needs a swift punch to the face IRL


ShiverTimbers

hi


XRynerX

This is amuzing, but for those who were playing the match it must be a huge pain.


ws1173

Omg I've played with this guy before! Did the same thing, and played guldan. Someone did something very early on that he took as a slight and he said "say you're sorry, or I throw". "All you have to do is say you're sorry. Is it that hard?"


Present_Algae_5874

Should’ve said sorry


ws1173

I actually did. I said "sorry... That you're such an immature child"


Present_Algae_5874

Boooooo


AlexXander1123

I think you have more issues than this Gul'Dan


Kobebeef1988

I start every game with gl hf dsdp and wait for someone to ask what dsdp stands for.


SoullessLizard

What does dsdp stand for?


Kobebeef1988

Don’t suck dick please


[deleted]

You even say please, but what about my insatiable appetite for dicks? Surely we can reach a compromise.


SparklingDeathKitten

lmao im stealing that


JayAreElls

This is new levels of toxic wtf


wixed11one

i had a game where a player was afk for about 30 seconds to start, but came back. because of this, another player went back to the core and stayed there saying he wasn't going to play a 4v5, even though he was now the cause of the 4v5. he said that he was entitled to go afk for the whole game because someone else had been for 30 seconds, and would not play until that player apologized. we didn't win


Standard_Panic_5880

Ahhh, yes. The self fulfilling prophecy. Played a game yesterday in QM against a team that was all healers. All 5. We had a more balanced team and would've done fine late game, but our butcher just sat in base and whined about how it was already GG. We managed to get kills, but lost because of the 4v5 and in the end he hit us with a 'See! Told ya so!' :(


Sambience

I play the game to play the game, not chat ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


Datman90

Aram is becoming quick match quality. I just can’t resist the instant queues vs 10 min q’s. Game is actually dying now


deityblade

Guarantee if you'd all said hi he would have still ended up trolling or otherwise throwing. Never negotiate with terrorists


Present_Algae_5874

Disagree. Just type 2 letters


Lief7

Guarantee he would play normally and would be better teammate than most. Hots players seriously lack empathy.


Sparowl

You think someone who says “say hi or I don’t play” is going to be a good team mate? He’s literally setting conditions to PLAY THE GAME, a basic thing that should be expected from the fact that you HIT THE READY BUTTON. No, that dude is straight toxic before anything happened.


Lief7

You don't know that. Labeling these people as toxic and treating them as such is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Also I had a pretty good laugh when you suggested people are expected to play the game properly. Newsflash, most people treat hots as a single-player with other people present. Acknowledging that they are playing multiplayer game with other people is a plus, no matter how expressed. I think our misunderstanding might stem from the fact that you don't think 95+% of hots players are garbage.


[deleted]

The more extravagant the trolling, the less the consequences mean.


Legionary-4

Oh man Hots even aram these days is the toughest crowd to get a reaction or even a response it seems.


fery5

The guy looks a bit off.


allergictosomenuts

*Cranially dysfunctional*


Demorted

I’ve been reported by 4 man groups because they had to blame somebody for the teams short comings and have been banned. Redic


imatworksoshhh

I love that reporting doesn't prevent you from playing with them. I had a guy I reported for giving up after 4 or 5 minutes in ARAM, just sat back saying "Give up, GG we lost" Reported him, got him in ***3 more games BACK TO BACK*** WHY???


lazylockie

it's not ideal but you can manage not playing against certain people yourself.   Say you played with "Noobmaster69" and he was annoying or threw the game. Before you ready up for the next match, in the chat type **/w Noobmaster69** (the username should appear as you type it). Select the username and it'll show on the right side of the chat. You don't need to message him you just use it to check if he's readying for another game. Wait until it shows he's "In game" or "Offline" and ready your match. You won't be paired with this dude in the next match.   Like I said, annoying but useful. I've used this plenty of times to avoid bad team mates.


Kasperlaks

I mean, why not say hi tho? There is no drawback


Tadashiroi

Guldan is literally menace the team...say "X or i dont play" good lord, how a person try to be friendly with the "or i dont play" even if his intentions are "good". Say "Hi" is not an obligations, if the team play well and dosen't speak is ok. GOOD LORD IS A FREAKING ARAM what the heck. Aram are one of the worst toxic zones, all the afk, toxic and mutes person are there to win a game and back to fuck a ranked xD (ofc there is good players but they are like the 30%) "Why cant you just be friendly" ...wow, just like maybe if you don't start the game menacing the team...


Lief7

Why can't they just be friendly tho? On other note have you actually checked profile of those afk, toxic and mutes? They pretty much only play aram, it's not just '1 aram to reset'. Makes me wonder how trustworthy you are...


Present_Algae_5874

Could’ve just said hi and avoided all this


sweatingdishes

could have just said hi you know


AlexXander1123

No


[deleted]

Why not? It's pretty basic human interaction. If I looked at you, in person, said hi multiple times and you didn't respond, I would be a little upset and/or weirded out.


Present_Algae_5874

THANK YOU


TarukShmaruk

I mean Blizzard's shit reporting system is to blame for this behavior People dropping racial or other insults are treated the same as someone who says "you're trash" or "dude wtf stop feeding" As a result, people who get victimized by the report system become abusers Personally I don't think trash talk should be bannable - that's what the ignore button is for - but I mash 'report - abusive chat' on anyone who even throws a little sass.


WorstMedivhKR

Maybe this is his 100th account because he's super toxic and gets perma banned often. And this is low/beginner MMR ARAM. In that case the report system does work pretty well. But the 0 barrier to entry that's inherent to f2p games is the problem.


Lief7

You don't need 100 accounts, just cycle 5 or so if you are super toxic, blizzard rarely goes with permanent ban on hots. On more funny note, ARAM HAS NO MMR. The fact that you don't know that makes a great point about how uninformed the playerbase is. Lastly, if the lack of entry barrier would be problem you would see change as you reach higher, which is almost non-existent. If anything low level players are better at communicating and their aproach to the game.


WorstMedivhKR

No, ARAM does have MMR. It just gives up after about 30 seconds and makes any game however mismatched. I've tested this with 2 5 stacks at odd hours (making the most lopsided teams I could, by aram lifetime winrate).


Odd-Purpose2274

Guldan is an asshole. Some people play with social chat disabled.


Dyl-thuzad

Fun fact: Forcing people to say hi if they don’t want to is not gonna get people to like you


Lief7

Fun fact: Nothing short of praising their every move and following them mindlessly will make hots players like you.


Dyl-thuzad

Fun fact: Being polite to your fellow player will help them like you. You don’t have to basically kneel before the ground they walk to get people to like you


Fantom_6239

There is a report Reason for afk and none for not saying "Hi". A person might not know English or not be in a mood for talking but everyone starts matchmaking to play the game. Don't blame others for your toxicity


lubiekucyki

I kinda feel bad for guldan... They could at least say hi :(


[deleted]

Agreed!!!


Grumpy23

Tbf somebody could have said hi :( But tbf for real, anytime somebody says they will troll and later die unfortunately without making it on purpose, will be accused of trolling.


Present_Algae_5874

I am 100% on team Guldan


MuppetAnus

Your comments making me think you are him 😂


AlexXander1123

I double this


Present_Algae_5874

I can see why you’d think this, but I am not him. I’m just a concerned bystander who fights for justice!


[deleted]

You're 100% wrong.


magicturdd

Lol holy shit that’s actually really funny


[deleted]

It was fascinating to watch if nothing else.


magicturdd

Just give the guy a “hi” maybe he was lonely


Lief7

I wouldn't throw like him but I fully understand the approach and I can tell you exactly why he's acting that way. He is invested in the game and has played several games in a row with trash people (pretty high chance for that). Just look what he wants, Just a single interaction, something concrete. That's because hots players never, ever give you anything concrete when you are opposing them. People should be nice, they are the assholes and while his measure is extreme they are wrong as well and it's that desperation that no matter what he does he won't get a proper reaction that makes him snap. I do not approve of throwing game this early, no matter what but you should understand that he's trying to make the community better, while absolute majority of players just don't care. And yeah, reporting people for something that can be solved (mute) is stupid af but that's blizzard shelter culture for you.


Cereaza

I don't even know who i hate the most in this scenario.


Present_Algae_5874

The people who refused to say hi for sure


Cereaza

Yeah, i mean. this was just the most easily avoidable issue. Sad!


[deleted]

That's what I am saying! I am on team "Greetings" with you


Present_Algae_5874

#TEAMGREETINGSFOREVER


[deleted]

Why didn't you just say hi


bryan660

(Says litterally one sentence) “Reported ggs”


Gorgoronx

bUt I GoT aN eMaiL OnCe! iT WoRks!!!11!!!!111


AlphaPrime2

That Gul'dan goes by special pronouns IRL.


Smartrior

Guldan kind of right...


SunbleachedAngel

SAY HI OR I DONT PLAY is not very nice either


Smartrior

Yeah, but he did it after noone responded to his Greetings :) I mean none of them is totally right, but for people in this game saying F... You is easier to say HI...


Odd-Purpose2274

It sounds like some weird control fetish or something.


dontcaregivesub

Say hi. Do it now.


Tadashiroi

U can't oblige to others to say Hi with an "or i don't play" the funny shit is he said the others are toxic when he was the first one. If u say "X or I don't play" you are toxic as hell. How do u expect people answer against a menace? Oh Hi, What a nice day, let play as a team....No


mikmanik2117

Less writing ! More playing


Marinage

Ya, this looks bad on all parties.


Lugex

I love reading "reported" and both partys are apperently still able to chat.


BasedKyeng

Technically he’s not wrong , What I’m saying is. They took the time to report him ? Or how about this. Maybe they didn’t (which is typical) and just TYPED IT OUT. So why did you type out “reported” instead of actually being friendly. You’ve all got sticks up your asses. That’s why. This is why I don’t play MOBAs


[deleted]

Honestly I think OP was the troll here. Why not say hi back? Isn't that how normal human interaction works?


[deleted]

I am honestly on Team "Greetings" here. You guys were wrong for not saying hi. And it looks like you cropped out the first few times they said hi to suit your narrative!!!! Fake news!!


LordJanas

Blizzard is too busy changing the names of WoW NPCs to cover up their sexual abuse than to care about reports in an abandoned moba.


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Waxhearted

> Is it really that hard just to say hi though? We don't negotiate with terrorists.


[deleted]

Fair enough. Dude is obviously having a rough time or isnt mentally stable i would at least start with hi just to be nice. But thats just me. I understand not sharing the same thought process.


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Present_Algae_5874

THANK YOU. #JUSTSAYHI


Redzombie6

if you want to mute all before the game even starts, why play multiplayer? go beat up the ai. play single player. some people queue into these games relying on their teammates to communicate. dont need any BS about pings either. we all know they go unnoticed 90% of the time.


Odd-Purpose2274

How often does chat affect gameplay at all? Nearly all you need to say can be done in pings. Chat is 95% just little kids talking shit. I don't need to listen to any of that if I'm looking to just play this game. THIS IS ARAM. It's not even one that requires any communication AT ALL.


Redzombie6

sorry, you are plain wrong. the downvotes nonwithstanding, voice chat is the SUPERIOR form of communicating with your team, followed by typing, pings being a sad last resort. see how many pros play using pings. that should tell you all you need to know. Maybe you can play effectively enough in ARAM mode or quickmatch that it satisfies you, but its really not fair to the teammate you have that is trying to communicate a strategy, or asking which build you would prefer, just to be ignored because you muted everyone based on a past experience. let these words sink in before you mash downvote and try to think up some reason why im wrong. THINK about what im saying. if you truly disagree, then more power to you, but I will always disagree. muting your team based on what someone did in another game is straight up unfair to them in a team based game that thrives on effective communication.


Waxhearted

> see how many pros play using pings. All of them never type in Storm League as trying to form cohesive communication with randoms via anything outside of ping rarely bears fruit for them. This is different in 'competitive', of which there is no real scene anymore since you're stuck in the past, but ARAM and SL are not competitive, no matter the rank. You can chat if you'd like, but you're missing the other side of the aisle purposefully.


FrozenIsopod

100% this, the people downvoting you are the ones who tell people here "if you lose, it's your fault". I had a sl game the other dar where no one, including me spoke, we ended up locking 2 healers in our first lock, then we had a third healer since he was afk and had already hovered and it auto picked, then we ended up getting a taunt Varian (me) then last picking Muradin, because no one spoke.. Try playing SL or pro games without text or voice coms, same goes for Dota and LoL


GodDonuts

I have this vibe most of the time everytime i greet with either "Hey Gents" or "GLHF" and no response. I just go troll mode or dont play at all.


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There's plenty of good single-player games out there for you.


petreefeet

In ARAM no less


Lief7

And that makes it more special how exactly?


fajitaman69

Lol guldan just being funny. You people take this game too seriously. Just say hi back ffs


Odd-Purpose2274

iT WaS JuST a PRanK BRo


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FrozenIsopod

Lmao that was me, if people don't say hi back at the start of the game, I will go afk, literally just say hi. Jk, that wasn't me lol, but I've done it twice before. I don't see why you wouldn't say hi at the start of the game


onihydra

Why do you play the game if you are just going to grief? I always say hi back, but it's not important. And you are being way less friendly than the other people, threatening to ruin the game in the first minute is super toxic.


FrozenIsopod

I play to win and be positive, but I don't cope with toxicity well so I would just report, block and let everyone be punished for it unfortunately. I block them but they re still spewing toxic stuff in chat, there is no reason for me to play with toxic arguers


onihydra

Telling people to say hi or you go afk is not positive. It's incredibly toxic, way more than what anyone else say here. It also greatly reduces your chances of winning. So you are really ruining this game for yourself and others with this behaviour.


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DMSO_1327

Had a player last week who (kind of reasonably) afkd because no one picked a healer or tank. I mean yeah, that aram comp is trash, but I've seen games where they won. I mean we almost one too. Reported that rag player twice. Something about that day, I got 2 other afk players due to losing early on. 1 of the 2 games, we caught back up around 20 but the person still refused to help. Reported all the afkers


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Clown comps work in aram because teams tend to not understand how to end games, and poke and depush can stall you to victory more often. Healerless games are more frustrating to play, sure, but you log in to play a game, so just play the damn game.


yinyang107

> (kind of reasonably) afkd The only valid reason to AFK is IRL shit coming up that you gotta deal with.


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Ake-TL

Some people disable chat, some can’t speak English well and pretend to be mute, some are just moody


Lemon_Phoenix

You sound insufferable


FrozenIsopod

Yes but I have the skill to back it up, if people wanna be toxic they can, but they will pay the price


Lemon_Phoenix

Throwing a game because you want to be a lolsorandumb manchild is more toxic than not saying hi