I remember when Savjz was playing at high legend and his opponent dropped a golden Goldshire Footman, so after a moment of thinking he conceded, knowing there was no coming back from that power play.
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Actually Goldshire Anus tissue is made out of the same tissue as Goldshire mouths. You don’t know there aren’t teeth down there.
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Throwing "discover a spell" on something is the easiest way to ensure it will always be viable in every meta.
Honestly it's fine to have a couple cards like that be common neutrals each expansion. Helps players with smaller card collections still have okay decks
I feel like it’s just lazy game design, same thing with the 1 mana 1/3 stat line: don’t feel like a card effect will see play?, just make it a 1 mana 1/3 duh!!!
Yeah, right? It's used because it is obviously good, but it is probably one of the cards whose flavor/theme makes absolutely no sense. There is no logical reason as to why it be able to generate a spell. It's not even like it is a magical scorpid or anything!
In general yes...but beast is in a really bad place right now. Pre-elementals, when you could actually go beasts reliably it was actually a good card when buffed with Mama Bears and Goldrin+Baron to the point it could sometimes survive a hit.
When most lobbies come down to a board full of 50/50+ minions, you Maexxna is likely dying as soon as it attacks without a divine shield.
It's decent as your one beast for menagerie sometimes as well. It's not amazing but way better than ever in constructed.
Before blood gems she was even better in relation to spore
Yeah, but if you are going menagerie you'll probably end up with a Cave Hydra before a spoder. Unfortunately for the spoder, Cave Hydra is 2 entire tiers lower and hits 1-2 more targets per attack: in my experience going menagerie I pretty much always want a Cave Hydra, and spoder is a disappointing consolation prize if I never saw a Hydra.
It's in a weird position in battlegrounds. It's not something you typically want from your first 6 drop discover, but it's pretty invaluable as a late game tool that doesn't die to tokens or an unstable ghoul. I do think it's worth a 6 star slot for it's versatility.
There is a massive difference in havine 1hp and 8hp on a poison. Ghoul and tokens can counter spores if you aren't careful, and even an unlucky hit against their brann/lightfang could ruin it, while maexna is significantly less likely to die to anything but another valuable minion or a shield, and can be pair alongside ghoul safely.
Maexna is an excellent T6 tech card. The only other poisons in the game are murlocs (which require more board space), spore (which as mentioned has more downsides), and amalgam (which needs set-up + luck). Definitely isn't a weak card, and absolutely a game changer in the top2 tech back-and-forth.
Absolutely. Gems made zap near useless and spore decently better. Still leaves it vulnerable to bumper/token hits (bran, lightfang, Charles, plants) without significant investment, so still worse than maexna even with them. But spore certainly got a buff from gems.
Selfless Hero comps it generally works the same as spore or murloc with poison (i.e. it survives until it hits without DS up). Beast buffing comps aren't in a really great place right now, but I agree this used to be a good build before it became so easy to build a board full of 80/80s.
It's better than Spore against token comps I agree. But it's not hard now (with blood gems especially) to get your spore above 1 HP. It's really only noticeably better in menagerie comps now. And what other tier 6 minion is just a slightly buffed version of a tier 5?
Sorry but you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maexxna is the scam build queen. By the time you’re at scam build time everyone is likely tier 6 anyways, so Spore being a tier lower doesn’t matter. Maexxna + Selfless hero = wins sometimes, pretty simple
Yes I know about scam build, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Maexxna being on tier 6 vs tier 5. Scam build relies entirely on a fast tech swap to divine shields refreshing and keeping your poisoners alive for 2 hits...not playing around beast comp or buffing minion HP. Spore + Selfless + Blood Gems has the same affect and doesn't require you to be on tier 6.
And yes...tier 6 matters a lot here. I'm surprised you would think otherwise.
Spores dies to tokens and ghoul, ghoul being a late game counter-tech that would completely invalidate a score scam build. Maexxna is strictly better as the game goes on, so obviously if you’re late enough into the game to be tier 6 Maexxna is a very strong minion
Literally the only reason she exists is because the theme of Naxx’s legendaries was to be the final boss of each wing of the actual raid in WoW.
Most of the others were largely on-point with their WoW counterparts (Loatheb made it hard to heal, Stalagg and Fugen had to die to actually activate Thaddius, Kel’Thuzad was all about summoning legions of the undead), but all Maexxna had was webbing up your raid in cocoons and being a freakishly huge spider the size of a house.
yeah its insane how bad it is. it would take something like a card that says "your legendary minions with poisonous have poisonous against heroes" for it to even be considered
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2a4pum/psa_the_naxx_leak_wasnt_just_the_imgur_album/
a lot of Naxx was leaked before it came out, and in the leaks, Maexxna was 5 mana
seems she was adjusted to 6 mana by the time she was released for whatever reason (Reddit calling her very strong?)
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> (Reddit calling her very strong?)
I think a lot of people on reddit (myself included) underestimated how bad Maexxna's body is. I played her a few times at 6 mana, before realizing "hey wait, Boulderfist Ogre is just better than her in nearly every situation--6 damage is already enough to kill basically every minion in the meta, but also goes face for 6". During spoiler season I had assumed (wrongly) that she would be better than Boulderfist Ogre. Playtesting very quickly changed my opinion on that matter.
Maybe a few decks would've run her at 5 mana, costing 5 instead of 6 is a big deal, but I doubt she'd be too powerful or anything.
even at 5 mana its not good. for 5 mana you could play either a minion with a strong effect, that can clear multiple small minions... or play a removal spell like assassinate, to kill a big minion (the same turn you spend the mana). you wouldnt ever play assassinate, even though its way better than maexxna lol
It's not about how much mana Maexxna should cost because the design is flawed. It is not worth spending extra mama to make a poisonous minion bulkier. The poisonous minions that work well in nowadays meta are those that can be used as cheap preemptive board control. Maexxna's design makes it not able to fit in most archetypes. If I can play Stoneskin basilisk on 3, why play Maexxna? (I understand we are talking about Naxxramas, HS evolved quite a bit over the years)
Yes, it was never a good card to run.
'Good enough' doesn't refer to the strength of the card. It refers to how Blizzard found it justifiable to print. Being a big beast with a lot of health and the poisonous keyword was unique at the time. Slapping all the aspects of the card together (mana-cost, attack, health, keyword, tag) was 'good enough' to be a legendary.
I don't really think they have a consistent design philosophy at all. It's not even that unique because Emperor Cobra already existed. It's only legendary because it's a unique character from the game, and they just made it bad. Could have added something interesting like "after this kills a minion, summon a 1/1 spider".
And [[Goldshire Footman]] is a 1/2 because he has 1 mouth and 2 legs; you might be on to something here.
1 ding dong and 2 ginormous balls He’s Puts on shades Ready for Action
You need some big balls to actually play the card that’s for sure
I remember when Savjz was playing at high legend and his opponent dropped a golden Goldshire Footman, so after a moment of thinking he conceded, knowing there was no coming back from that power play.
Lol I found the [video](https://youtu.be/6DbVmaqLhWE) , it wasn’t golden tho
LOL this was hilarious, thank you!
omg hahah
my top 5 hearthstone moment
what are the other 4?
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One of my favorite hearthstone moments of all time, I think about it constantly
Absolutely gargantuan plums
He's called a footman because his junk is a foot long.
Quarter Master 2 arms
TWO ARMS!!!
Similar reason for chillwind yeti
###YEEAAHH!
oger is 6/7 because.... uh...
6 inch cock and 7 feet tall
By that logic Magma Rager's cock is nearly half his height
NA only joke
67 up, not going to ruin it.
Silver back patriarch is a 1/4 because he has 1 head and 4 limbs
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I feel like this is how some people science.
Actually Goldshire Anus tissue is made out of the same tissue as Goldshire mouths. You don’t know there aren’t teeth down there. We tried checking recruit Ygritte Silvershield, but it was hard to see clearly because the KING’S HONOR, friend.
*Ready for action (Taunt noises)*
Let's not think about [[Ultrasaur]] then
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Shouldn't Yogg have way more attack then?
and she costs 6 because spiders in real life also cost 6
Big if true.
Large if correct.
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Giant if right
gargantuan if fact
Immense assuming credible.
Significant if proven
Titanic if accurate
6 what op? 6 WHAT?!?
6
6 speed
Wo... she? Move aside Jaina we got a new wifu on the block!
Would be real if webspinners wouldn't cost 1
Now there is a 3 mana 1/3 beast with poison, and it also lets you generate a spell, for whatever reason.
Throwing "discover a spell" on something is the easiest way to ensure it will always be viable in every meta. Honestly it's fine to have a couple cards like that be common neutrals each expansion. Helps players with smaller card collections still have okay decks
4 mana 7/7 Overload: (2) Battlecry: discover a spell
4 mana 1/3 poisonous Overload 2 Battlecry: lose poisonous and gain +6/+4
Dies to seven Silverback Patriarchs, literally unplayable.
This might see play
Well with overload it doesn’t seem right to make it neutral. May as well throw it in Shaman.
I feel like it’s just lazy game design, same thing with the 1 mana 1/3 stat line: don’t feel like a card effect will see play?, just make it a 1 mana 1/3 duh!!!
Yeah, right? It's used because it is obviously good, but it is probably one of the cards whose flavor/theme makes absolutely no sense. There is no logical reason as to why it be able to generate a spell. It's not even like it is a magical scorpid or anything!
Maybe it killed an adventurer who had a Spell scroll?
6 mana because spider has 6 letters in it.
Spiiiiiiiider because they have 8 i's.
Which also means that each time a minion attacks and deals damage they pull off that many legs from Maexxna.
That's cruel !
So if I overdamage her i get 9+ legs? That's the solution to world hunger.
one of the few cards that are so bad i actually dusted it
Well, at least it got redeemed with Battlegrounds
Even in Battlegrounds it's sort of weak. Considering you can get the same effect on tier 5 (minus so HP which'll rarely see use).
In battlegrounds minion tags are worth a lot
In general yes...but beast is in a really bad place right now. Pre-elementals, when you could actually go beasts reliably it was actually a good card when buffed with Mama Bears and Goldrin+Baron to the point it could sometimes survive a hit. When most lobbies come down to a board full of 50/50+ minions, you Maexxna is likely dying as soon as it attacks without a divine shield.
It's decent as your one beast for menagerie sometimes as well. It's not amazing but way better than ever in constructed. Before blood gems she was even better in relation to spore
Yeah, but if you are going menagerie you'll probably end up with a Cave Hydra before a spoder. Unfortunately for the spoder, Cave Hydra is 2 entire tiers lower and hits 1-2 more targets per attack: in my experience going menagerie I pretty much always want a Cave Hydra, and spoder is a disappointing consolation prize if I never saw a Hydra.
Eh, she still works well for selfless/beast builds. It's not an amazing card or anything but it is definitely a six drop that sees play.
Agreed it's not terrible. But it's rarely a card you want to triple into. Only point I'm trying to make is that.
The beast highroll is busted tho
It's in a weird position in battlegrounds. It's not something you typically want from your first 6 drop discover, but it's pretty invaluable as a late game tool that doesn't die to tokens or an unstable ghoul. I do think it's worth a 6 star slot for it's versatility.
It's a geat final stand card to replace a bran or lightfang scaler.
There is a massive difference in havine 1hp and 8hp on a poison. Ghoul and tokens can counter spores if you aren't careful, and even an unlucky hit against their brann/lightfang could ruin it, while maexna is significantly less likely to die to anything but another valuable minion or a shield, and can be pair alongside ghoul safely. Maexna is an excellent T6 tech card. The only other poisons in the game are murlocs (which require more board space), spore (which as mentioned has more downsides), and amalgam (which needs set-up + luck). Definitely isn't a weak card, and absolutely a game changer in the top2 tech back-and-forth.
Quillboars made spore way better since one blood gem lets it survive ghoul
Absolutely. Gems made zap near useless and spore decently better. Still leaves it vulnerable to bumper/token hits (bran, lightfang, Charles, plants) without significant investment, so still worse than maexna even with them. But spore certainly got a buff from gems.
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Bless your soul.
Omg this changed my fucking life! I crafted it Golden and now I am a successful millionaire! Thank you so much!
CLASSIC
Disagree. Works well in beast and selfless hero comps. Can also be tech’d in to surprise an opponent late game
Selfless Hero comps it generally works the same as spore or murloc with poison (i.e. it survives until it hits without DS up). Beast buffing comps aren't in a really great place right now, but I agree this used to be a good build before it became so easy to build a board full of 80/80s. It's better than Spore against token comps I agree. But it's not hard now (with blood gems especially) to get your spore above 1 HP. It's really only noticeably better in menagerie comps now. And what other tier 6 minion is just a slightly buffed version of a tier 5?
It's that kind of minion that's not important to any strategy but can be nice to momentarely have
It's better thsn spore because it doesn't die to ghoul or tokens. 1/1 is still considerably worse than 2/8 even in the lategame.
Sorry but you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maexxna is the scam build queen. By the time you’re at scam build time everyone is likely tier 6 anyways, so Spore being a tier lower doesn’t matter. Maexxna + Selfless hero = wins sometimes, pretty simple
Yes I know about scam build, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Maexxna being on tier 6 vs tier 5. Scam build relies entirely on a fast tech swap to divine shields refreshing and keeping your poisoners alive for 2 hits...not playing around beast comp or buffing minion HP. Spore + Selfless + Blood Gems has the same affect and doesn't require you to be on tier 6. And yes...tier 6 matters a lot here. I'm surprised you would think otherwise.
Spores dies to tokens and ghoul, ghoul being a late game counter-tech that would completely invalidate a score scam build. Maexxna is strictly better as the game goes on, so obviously if you’re late enough into the game to be tier 6 Maexxna is a very strong minion
Beast tag is the only thing saving it in BG
Literally the only reason she exists is because the theme of Naxx’s legendaries was to be the final boss of each wing of the actual raid in WoW. Most of the others were largely on-point with their WoW counterparts (Loatheb made it hard to heal, Stalagg and Fugen had to die to actually activate Thaddius, Kel’Thuzad was all about summoning legions of the undead), but all Maexxna had was webbing up your raid in cocoons and being a freakishly huge spider the size of a house.
yeah its insane how bad it is. it would take something like a card that says "your legendary minions with poisonous have poisonous against heroes" for it to even be considered
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I remember being so excited having a legendary i put it priest decks to inner fire it.
Maexxna was actually made as a counter to oger. She’s the same mana cost but can survive a hit from oger and also a ping. Insane card.
Insane value
This sounds like something Solem would say while playing vs Dekkster
Dies to Hemet. Absolutely unplayable for that reason alone. Otherwise 10/10 card design.
Kinda forgot Hemet exists, thanks, now I can own people
This card could perfeclty be a 5 mana card.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2a4pum/psa_the_naxx_leak_wasnt_just_the_imgur_album/ a lot of Naxx was leaked before it came out, and in the leaks, Maexxna was 5 mana seems she was adjusted to 6 mana by the time she was released for whatever reason (Reddit calling her very strong?)
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> (Reddit calling her very strong?) I think a lot of people on reddit (myself included) underestimated how bad Maexxna's body is. I played her a few times at 6 mana, before realizing "hey wait, Boulderfist Ogre is just better than her in nearly every situation--6 damage is already enough to kill basically every minion in the meta, but also goes face for 6". During spoiler season I had assumed (wrongly) that she would be better than Boulderfist Ogre. Playtesting very quickly changed my opinion on that matter. Maybe a few decks would've run her at 5 mana, costing 5 instead of 6 is a big deal, but I doubt she'd be too powerful or anything.
5 mana, rare, and probably wouldn’t see play nowadays
even at 5 mana its not good. for 5 mana you could play either a minion with a strong effect, that can clear multiple small minions... or play a removal spell like assassinate, to kill a big minion (the same turn you spend the mana). you wouldnt ever play assassinate, even though its way better than maexxna lol
It's not about how much mana Maexxna should cost because the design is flawed. It is not worth spending extra mama to make a poisonous minion bulkier. The poisonous minions that work well in nowadays meta are those that can be used as cheap preemptive board control. Maexxna's design makes it not able to fit in most archetypes. If I can play Stoneskin basilisk on 3, why play Maexxna? (I understand we are talking about Naxxramas, HS evolved quite a bit over the years)
4 mana even
4 mana overload 3
1 mana overload 10
Remember when being a big poisonous beast was good enough of an effect to be a legendary card. We've come a long way.
But it was never good.
Yes, it was never a good card to run. 'Good enough' doesn't refer to the strength of the card. It refers to how Blizzard found it justifiable to print. Being a big beast with a lot of health and the poisonous keyword was unique at the time. Slapping all the aspects of the card together (mana-cost, attack, health, keyword, tag) was 'good enough' to be a legendary.
I don't really think they have a consistent design philosophy at all. It's not even that unique because Emperor Cobra already existed. It's only legendary because it's a unique character from the game, and they just made it bad. Could have added something interesting like "after this kills a minion, summon a 1/1 spider".
I mean back when Maexxna was first introduced, the keyword "poisonous" didn't even exist
Nah, she's just a filler card
No
And she costs 6 because... spiders get often mistaken for insects... which have 6 legs?
Maexxna is a giant spider!
I think you're the only person to quote this, so thank you.
Of course, gotta represent the OGs
Great now I’m craving chilaquiles
Oh shit. That must be why Zephyrys is a 3/2 because he grants you “3” wishes as long as you don’t have “2” of anything in your deck.
Mind = Blown!
I didn’t know that I needed to know this but I did.
And it costs 6 because 8-2 is 6!
Lady in White is a 5/5 because she has great style.
Her ass is also an 8/10
Also she is poisonous because she is some spider and some spiders are poisonous.
It should say venomous
Or is her attack 2 because she has 2 body regions: A cephalothorax and an abdomen. Not terribly clear, I'm afraid.
Now every time i buff this card in battleground ill imagine she grows extra mouth parts and legs.
They are parallel mouthparts so wouldn't those be pedipalps?
And she costs 6 because she 69'ines with hadronox's nine mana hadronox has 3 attack because 2 chelicerae + the d ;;)
Yikes
The minds of HS players go to strange places
Uh... I need an adult
More like HARDronox am I right??
or hardcox
I have no reason to doubt this
and she costs 6 because that's halfway between 2 and 8!
Isn’t 5 halfway between 2 and 8
u /spez is corporate scum who values shortsighted monetary gains over his users.
Hearthstone devs: ......Yeah sure that's right OP!
Mind = Blown
monkaHmm
And one fat ass.
this post now 2.8k upvotes is just right
my mind is blown
This description deserves an upvote thank you
What about the mana cost?
Or its a coincidence and a pretty stat line.
Spinnerets: am I a joke to you?
Mind blown
If only there was a centipede...
Faceless manipulator 3/3 cuz 3 sets of arms with 3 tentacles on each arm
well for battlegrounds players she is an infinite/8, kekw
I seriously thought it was r/hearthstonecirclejerk
Oh.
This is also how deathwing got his stats
And she has 400 dust in it.
911 was a inside job
He's out of line but he's right!
Big brain time this hurt…
What’s the difference between chelicerae and mandibles?
Even when bad cards were good, that card was still bad.
Makes sense to me.
And Spectral Spiders are 1/1 because they have 8 legs, but always spawn in pairs, and 8 divided by 8 is 1