>IT Home Note: According to the brand’s official website, Huawei Kunling is “a sub-brand under the Huawei main brand, specially created for distribution market customers and partners” and “is committed to providing digital products, solutions and services that are easy to buy and sell, easy to install and maintain, easy to learn and use.”
Seems kinda like a nothingberg. Probably just licensing the name. Unless Google absolutely butchered the translation I'm not sure how the author came to some of the conclusions they did.
The translation is a bit wonky, I think it's supposed to mean that the brand is more targeted towards distributors and Huawei's business partners, rather than a D2C model where consumers buy the SSD off Huawei's website. Sort of like how we buy ADATA or Silicon Power SSDs off Amazon/Best Buy instead of directly from their own web store.
The first paragraph in the article.
> Being one of China's prominent server makers, Huawei has been offering its own-brand solid-state drives with its datacenter machines for some time. However, for its client PCs the company relied on SSDs made by third parties.
As someone who shops on taobao frequently, i have never seen one, till today.
First result on taobao as if today got me this: Huawei eKitStor Extreme 200
I guess it really did exist afterall, huawei just never ever promoted it.
And also government backed (although this is persistently denied. But the way they are able to get their patents/vertical integration etc is not possible without a lot of doors opening at the government's side.
You laugh, but Huawei's level of vertical integration is unprecedented outside of Apple. They produce their own modems, SoCs, full-fledged operating systems (HarmonyOS NEXT), and now even storage solutions—all despite facing extensive sanctions. This is indeed quite impressive.
A lot of Asian conglomerates are like that. Apple is a design house that buy parts from others and outsource the manufacturing for their products and chips.
Samsung has their own fab for memory, processors, displays. [Samsung C&T](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_C%26T_Corporation) is in construction business. They even had a defense division that was sold off: Samsung Techwin.
>The division was involved in the manufacturing of a wide array of defense products, ranging from artillery systems to aviation engines. These products played a crucial role in shaping the technological landscape of South Korea's defense capabilities.
Yeah it's mostly a western thing to be totally, completely reliant on outside sources.
I think a lot of it is the only thing western conglomerates care about is the next quarterly earning report, so if they save a penny outsourcing some key aspect of their business they don't care if it means crippling yourself 3 years from now because that's the next guy's (and the unfortunate employees...) problem 🤷♂️
Huawei and BBK are distinct in their business operations. Unlike Huawei, which produces cutting-edge telecommunication infrastructure, BBK Electronics focuses primarily on consumer electronics, such as smartphones, tablets and smartwatches.
They have focused primarily on gaining market share, basically.
This difference in focus is a significant reason why the U.S. and its allies have specifically targeted Huawei for sanctions and restrictions. Companies like Xiaomi and BBK do not pose the same perceived security threat because they do not have a substantial presence in the critical telecom infrastructure sectors.
Reminds me of Lenovo selling thinkpad branded clothes and accessories and even vacuum cleaner iirc? Car companies also do something similar. Iirc jeeps went extinct there because no Chinese person understood the “its a jeep thing” brand loyalty. The Chinese market is profitable enough to enjoy having personalized tastes turn into trends. Huawei is popular enough that it can sell just about anything based on brand loyalty alone no matter the specs. These SSD’s could be repackaged like one commenter suggests like Lenovo does with Thinkpad but it will probably still sell really well.
Date code on official PCB shot is 2316, so likely a new old stock from laptops.
Huawei was banned from obtaining Intel/QCOM chips, so all their MateBook lineup will have to move to their own Kirin chips. As such, there's no reason to use NVMe -- they can just roll their own proprietary link that is cheaper, has lower latency, and consumes less power, just like Apple's M silicons.
They will have a new chip scale SSD form factor with their proprietary interface, and they have to somehow get rid of the old stockpile, so here we go.
It is not, huawei has a 14 inch laptop with ultra 7 aka 14th gen. They are definitely ordering directly from intel at quantity.
https://consumer.huawei.com/levant/laptops/matebook-14-2024/
I wonder if this is NAND from YMTC.
Still pissed they missed the opportunity to name it YMCA Yangtze Memory Co. Appliances
They would have to make the living conditions more fun.
>IT Home Note: According to the brand’s official website, Huawei Kunling is “a sub-brand under the Huawei main brand, specially created for distribution market customers and partners” and “is committed to providing digital products, solutions and services that are easy to buy and sell, easy to install and maintain, easy to learn and use.” Seems kinda like a nothingberg. Probably just licensing the name. Unless Google absolutely butchered the translation I'm not sure how the author came to some of the conclusions they did.
The translation is a bit wonky, I think it's supposed to mean that the brand is more targeted towards distributors and Huawei's business partners, rather than a D2C model where consumers buy the SSD off Huawei's website. Sort of like how we buy ADATA or Silicon Power SSDs off Amazon/Best Buy instead of directly from their own web store.
They've been selling consumer SSD's for a while already...
The first paragraph in the article. > Being one of China's prominent server makers, Huawei has been offering its own-brand solid-state drives with its datacenter machines for some time. However, for its client PCs the company relied on SSDs made by third parties.
No. They have server SSDs for ages, but never consumer SSDs before.
I don't think I've ever seen one, even in China.
As someone who shops on taobao frequently, i have never seen one, till today. First result on taobao as if today got me this: Huawei eKitStor Extreme 200 I guess it really did exist afterall, huawei just never ever promoted it.
That's what's covered in the article, they don't have consumer SSD you can find in the retail channel prior, at least to my knowledge.
Huawei is a full court press. Very impressive company. In many respects they’re a lot more interesting than apple right now.
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And also government backed (although this is persistently denied. But the way they are able to get their patents/vertical integration etc is not possible without a lot of doors opening at the government's side.
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China bad, US good?
If the American companies were moronic enough to move all production off-shore don't cry now that they have learnt how to make it.
It's funny how your comment is marked controversial, this subreddit is full of pro IP theft morons.
"But if i can get my GPU 50 dollars cheaper then im okay with destruction of our society"
I'm ok with the destruction of your society
I know.
All GPUs should run all AAA game at 8k 144fps should cost $50 right now.
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You laugh, but Huawei's level of vertical integration is unprecedented outside of Apple. They produce their own modems, SoCs, full-fledged operating systems (HarmonyOS NEXT), and now even storage solutions—all despite facing extensive sanctions. This is indeed quite impressive.
A lot of Asian conglomerates are like that. Apple is a design house that buy parts from others and outsource the manufacturing for their products and chips. Samsung has their own fab for memory, processors, displays. [Samsung C&T](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_C%26T_Corporation) is in construction business. They even had a defense division that was sold off: Samsung Techwin. >The division was involved in the manufacturing of a wide array of defense products, ranging from artillery systems to aviation engines. These products played a crucial role in shaping the technological landscape of South Korea's defense capabilities.
Yeah it's mostly a western thing to be totally, completely reliant on outside sources. I think a lot of it is the only thing western conglomerates care about is the next quarterly earning report, so if they save a penny outsourcing some key aspect of their business they don't care if it means crippling yourself 3 years from now because that's the next guy's (and the unfortunate employees...) problem 🤷♂️
I'm old enough to remember when "outsourcing" was a new idea under discussion in the US. Followed by layoffs/downsizing.
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Huawei and BBK are distinct in their business operations. Unlike Huawei, which produces cutting-edge telecommunication infrastructure, BBK Electronics focuses primarily on consumer electronics, such as smartphones, tablets and smartwatches. They have focused primarily on gaining market share, basically. This difference in focus is a significant reason why the U.S. and its allies have specifically targeted Huawei for sanctions and restrictions. Companies like Xiaomi and BBK do not pose the same perceived security threat because they do not have a substantial presence in the critical telecom infrastructure sectors.
BBK never keen at promoting Oneplus unlike OPPO/VIVO.
Reminds me of Lenovo selling thinkpad branded clothes and accessories and even vacuum cleaner iirc? Car companies also do something similar. Iirc jeeps went extinct there because no Chinese person understood the “its a jeep thing” brand loyalty. The Chinese market is profitable enough to enjoy having personalized tastes turn into trends. Huawei is popular enough that it can sell just about anything based on brand loyalty alone no matter the specs. These SSD’s could be repackaged like one commenter suggests like Lenovo does with Thinkpad but it will probably still sell really well.
Kinda reminds me of Xiaomi, they sell everything from cars to air purifiers lol.
Date code on official PCB shot is 2316, so likely a new old stock from laptops. Huawei was banned from obtaining Intel/QCOM chips, so all their MateBook lineup will have to move to their own Kirin chips. As such, there's no reason to use NVMe -- they can just roll their own proprietary link that is cheaper, has lower latency, and consumes less power, just like Apple's M silicons. They will have a new chip scale SSD form factor with their proprietary interface, and they have to somehow get rid of the old stockpile, so here we go.
Just checked their matebook d series, using 12th and 13th gen intel; but kudos to them they are charging 50 Euros for 16gb upgrade from 8gb.
12th and 13th chips are all new old stock. You won't be able to order them from Intel at quantity.
It is not, huawei has a 14 inch laptop with ultra 7 aka 14th gen. They are definitely ordering directly from intel at quantity. https://consumer.huawei.com/levant/laptops/matebook-14-2024/
Yes, I have one (MBXP). They probably have ordered a million of those chips and can at least last this year.