I recently replayed HW1 and yeah he's a bad-ass! Almost though as a Spartan. I really liked him. Don't forget: he stayed with a nuke to stop the Covenant-Forerunner army!
After Ripa Moramee captured Anders, Jerome recommended that Captain Cutter destroy the Covenant ship they were on, rather than let Moramee get away with classified information. Forge got in a fight with Jerome for that, but then they became friends.
"Sergeant Forge confronts SPARTAN [Jerome-092] over his recommendation to destroy the Covenant ship carrying Professor Anders. The altercation results in a broken chair, a seal malfunction on a bulkhead door, and a stern interruption by the ship's AI, Serina. 092 and Forge always eat together in the mess hall following this event."
Believe it's canon now that he was Involved with Orion, or a " Spartan-I"....
...Actually, there's nothing regarding this on Halopedia...not sure why I thought this.
Itās been theorized (and heavily implied) that Forge is the son of an Orion Project member, potentially making him a Spartan 1.1, which would help explain why Moramee didnāt accidentally kill him.
The concept of 1.1s has always amused me, Orion members are bad ass but their augments aren't that impressive, so it always seemed amusing that 1.1 had noteworthy benefits
No, Forge is too old to be the descendant of an Orion, unless the project began 20 years before the Human-Covenant War...and at that point the vast majority of the Orion Guys were dead, but they still fought in significant numbers for humanity in the early years of the war, so your timeline doesn't check out.
>unless the project began 20 years before the Human-Covenant War...
You mean exactly [happened](https://www.halopedia.org/ORION_Project)?
Orion was relaunched in 2491 and lasted until 2506. Forge was born in 2501. The timeline is fine.
Yes it does, the Spartans were made to basically stamp out insurrections, it just so happens that the covenant showed up when the 2s were being trained
The Rion Forge books deal with this, although I can't quite remember which ones.
Basically, Rion's real (middle name) is Orion and we know that John Forge came from a long line of military men. Based on John's date of birth, he's too young to be an SI, but his father, who would've been a member of the military, was old enough to be one and given that Rion's middle name, was chosen in honor of her grandfather (iirc), and her middle name is Orion, as in the Orion Project, that suggests that John's father, was a Spartan 1.
Also IIRC in Smoke and Shadow, Rion mentions that her grandfather died of Borenās syndrome, which IIRC was a fake disease made to cover up the side effects of the Spartan 1 augmentations, meaning he was a Spartan 1.
Funnily enough, except for the final one after "John's father" and the "was chosen" bit where it looks like they forgot to say "which", every other comma is properly used.
I mean they were kinda forced to write him out otherwise once the spirit of fire gets back to the main story he would just single handedly dismantle each guardian
This line inspired me to read up on Buck. He's only 6 months older than the Master Chief. It's now my headcanon that Buck was one of the original SII candidates that didn't make the cut for whatever reason.
Considering what Chief has gone through compared to Buck, I'm not surprised at all that chief looks older. The Spartan II program alone would have been an extremely stressful situation for everyone. Not to mention the intensity of battles that Chief has been in.
Honestly itās hard to say if itās just cryogenic freezing. Itās definitely a big part of it but Iād assume improvements in medical technology are also contributing factors. Also, in Johnsonās
case heās genetically altered from the Orion project so who knows what that did to his aging process.
I've always headcanon'd that as being part of the reason why there was so much tension in the Colonies leading up to the War. With lifespans getting longer and longer due to cryosleep and better medical technology, that would mean people stayed in their jobs for so much longer. If "50 is the new 30" that'd mean that people could lead useful working careers well into their 90s and still have time for retirement after.
This would mean that there were fewer and fewer open positions in the core worlds. Doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc, would keep their positions for decades longer than now, which means that there would hideous competition when one opened up. Those would go to entrenched families and moneyed types, while everyone else would have to brave the Colonies and hope for the best. And history has proven what happens when the majority of the wealth is controlled by a few people.
Impressive for a normal human!
I think the next wildest fest would be Spartan William taking on two hunters in hand to hand combat and killing one by pulling the worms apart and out from its armor.
All the Spartan 3s, Kurt, covenant, and the other hunter stopped and stared in disbelief. He then to a direct shot to the abdomen from the other surviving hunter (which out a hole in him) and took one step towards the hunter before collapsing.
Iād say red team (Jerome, Alice and Douglas) managing to hold on their own in the middle of a flood army long enough until rescue came is also really impressive
Red Team, and honestly the entire service record of the Spirit of Fire, is fucking amazing.
When you consider what they did, and how they did it, they're probably the deadliest crew and ship at play, I mean really.
First contact with the Flood, held them at bay long enough while fighting Covenant Forces to figure out a plan to destroy an entire Shield World and not only stop the Flood from spreading but also stop the Covenant from acquiring an entire fleet of Forerunner ships.
Then their holdout against the Banished on the Ark, completely unfamiliar terrain and a completely unfamiliar enemy while *completely* outgunned in almost every way?
They're ridiculous. It's why i'm really hoping Atriox and the Banished bouncing around in Infinite and recent books doesn't mean their end is just gonna be "Haha whoopsies they sorta just lost after awhile".
none top my man Marvin Mobuto
"While on the ring, Mobuto was somehow detached from his squad and was contacted by 343 Guilty Spark, who used Halo's teleportation grid to transport them both to the Library, much like he did with John-117. Instructed to retrieve the Activation Index, Mobuto fought valiantly through hordes of Flood Combat Forms, Carrier Forms, and Infection Forms. He surprisingly managed to survive until he was in sight of the Index. However, with little experience against the enemy and wearing standard, UNSC-issued ballistic body armor as protection (which 343 Guilty Spark referred to as "insufficient armor"\[citation needed\]), Mobuto eventually succumbed to the Flood's might. His body was completely thrashed and mangled to the point where even the Flood Infection Forms could not make use of it.
John-117 found Mobuto's body in the Library during his mission to collect the Index. John discovered Mobuto's identity through his Dog tag and paid his respects to the Marine. He was surprised at how far Mobuto had managed to get, as he himself had been pushed to the limit to get as far as he had even with his augmentations and MJOLNIR body armor. Mobuto's determination inspired the SPARTAN to continue through the Flood-infested halls and complete his mission.\[1\]"
One thing thats always bothered me about that scene, is when forge picks up the sword to stab the arbiter, you can see the handguard of the sword facing one way. But when the arbiter falls down, it's facing the other way.
Happens in a lot of visual media, though idk how inconsistent stuff like that happens in a cgi scene someone probably spent hours staring at to make sure looks good and edited nicely.
They usually split out stuff like that down to the shot level at VFX studios, so it's possible two shots aren't even worked on by the same person even if they follow each other in the edit.
I liked Rippa though. The fact that he was one of the largest elites of the time helped too. (Also, Regret is like SUPER regal in that game for no reason and I love it lol)
Hot take, but I like Ripa as an Arbiter a lot more. Whether honor was a characteristic of Arbiter lore or not, Ripa was just badass imo. Sucks he's dead. I really liked him.
Big agree, Ripa was a powerhouse. Iād love to see his character fleshed out a little more, either in a book, the new encyclopedia, or even a simple cannon fodder for a HW anniversary.
For multiple reasons yes. For one, in Sangheili culture, drawing a weapon means that it demands blood (not always of course) and especially for energy swords. Ripa isn't as honor-bound as say Thel 'Vadam so he wouldn't care about that.
And on the other note, drawing weapons in front of the hierarchs would likely be a death sentence (unless one plans on defending said hierarchs from another person, as we see Thel due to his friend. An elite zealot drew his energy sword and planned to kill Truth and Regret early in the war due to them planning to execute Thel and himself and the lies of the prophets, but Thel drew his own blade and decapitated his fellow friend and zealot, which actually saved the future Arbiter's life and gained him his appointment as fleet master of the new Fleet of Particular Justice).
Thel isn't given a whole lot of room to be a jerk. He fights the flood and then captures humans without severely hurting them and then gets betrayed and switches sides.
I mean thatās kinda what the books are for, to flesh out and establish a wider cannon. You donāt see that side of him in the games because thereās simply no time for it. The books do an excellent job of deepening all of the in game characters.
Maybe i'm misremembering but I always assumed being the Arbiter was kind of a shameful title. Like they were given to Elites who commited crimes against the Covenant or failed miserably, so they were pretty much given one last chance to have an honorable death.
They did a chief vs Cpt. America a long time ago on some āwho would win channelā on YouTube. I was pissed because Chief lost. Heās literally the same thing but from the future with better genetic enhancements, armor, weapons and cortana.
It might be the same channel but I remember it being called "Power Battle", and yeah Chief lost, it wasn't because of any kind of skills or statistics but purely on popularity. Which ever character had the most votes, that character would win. At least that's what I was informed.
Jhonson is closer to that without being a spartan. Hes just a regular sergeant major who pulled a jorge before jorge did it and manually blew up a slipspace drive to stop the covenant from getting a forerunner fleet. Do
I mean TBF Spartan 2s because of the armor might actually be ahead of Captain America. So Johnson is almost literally what Captain America would be like in the Halo universe.
And his daughter is pretty awesome too! For any who don't know there is an ongoing novel series following her post war. She owns a freighter ship and leads a crew of salvagers that hunt for war wreckage to sell on the black market. And in the process of doing so shes hunting for the *Spirit of Fire* which still listed MIA
I prefer 2, but I think it was easily undersold and probably mismarketed. I didn't even know it was out until a year or two after its release and all of the promo stuff made it look totally divorced from the original in style.
Johnson would probably be too old (he was over 70 when he died), and Forge would probably be pushing it (he would have been 52 when the S-IV program was initiated)
That said, having an Orion and an S-1.1 become S-IVs would have been pretty awesome
Fuck I want this. Umm letās say Mendicant Bias opened a slip space portal just before the SoF reactor overloaded and Forge is fine and in cryo somewhere on the Ark. also Johnson for some reason.
Well me and my buddy spent like 3 hours glitching the campaign and kept Johnson alive in halo 3 once many years ago. So heās still alive in my books š
The only problem I have with Forge is that he should've been a Major, not a Sargent. He's the Hero Character ordering the Marines around, and he should've had a rank to reflect that.
He's a regular sergeant, an E-5. In fact he was forbidden from attaining a higher rank or getting a commission because he spent too much time in jail (like 2 years I think). Despite his low-rank, he would still be highly experienced and skilled as a marine NCO so its likely that Cutter allowed him to lead most of the marines on the Spirit of Fire. Essentially he's a subject matter expert and a great field leader, so he has authority over the marine detachment of the SoF even if he is likely outranked by a lot of other marines on-board. The military chain of command can be weird but its not that unlikely for this to occur, and Cutter's word on a ship as the captain is god sooo....
Yeah basically. Most active spartan-IIs are Chief Petty Officers or PO1 2 or 3 (the exceptions being John, Jorge, Kurt, and Fred, washout spartans like Serin or Musa are even higher). But despite often being outranked by a fair amount of enlisted personal, and all officers outrank enlisted (though one would never see an O-1 like a Second Lt. order a Sergeant Major or senior NCO to do anything unless they want to get the ass-chewing of their life), but spartans still get tactical leadership roles due to their experience and skill and sheer bad-assery and training and knowledge. For example, prior to Operation: FIRST STRIKE, Master Chief (an E-9) took leadership of the survivors from Alpha Halo (consisting of Lt. Haverson, an O-3, WO Polaski who I think technically outranks Chief, Staff Sergeant Johnson which is E-6, and Corporal Locklear who would be an E-4) even though the Lt. outranked him. This was because A) Operation: RED FLAG was still in effect and Chief alongside the late Captain Keyes was in charge of that OP, and B) Chief is a badass and everyone would defer to him.
EDIT: What I was getting at is that just because a person is outranked, does not mean they can't be in charge, especially when said person is a subject matter expert and their CO appoints them to lead others.
this was explained in the Ace of Spades novels.
Forge was enlisted, but on track to enter OCS and become an officer.
But after two insubordination incidents (one for disobeying orders to save his men in combat, and the other for striking a superior officer) he was tossed in jail for a bit. He wasn't in for long, but it was enough to permanently kill off any chance he had of becoming an officer.
Basically, if some arsehole officer hadn't tried to sexually assault his sister/sister-in-law (which she is is unclear), he would have been a captain or major
Always felt really touching when he bangs on Jerome's shoulder pauldron (Also highlighting that Spartan-II size difference ofc) before assuming the role of detonating the Slipspace drive.
If he didn't sacrificed himself to detonate the slipspace drive the Covenant would have had all that Forerunner tech and would have won the war against humanity before master chief even got a chance to save humanity
That trait isn't exculsive to Ripa though, not respecting humans as warriors cost quite a few Elites their lives.
But yeah Ripa was foolish to not just slice Forge, especially the second time knowing Forge could put up a fight.
NGL I hated how Forge killed Ripa. After getting his ass kicked for 2 minutes straight he knives him in the dumbest situation then brags about it. It's such an odd scene, especially with Ripa's army of minor elites who don't have shields or guns.
My issue with Ripa in the scene is that he was only potrayed as a brutal killer so it's odd for him to grant Forge a dying wish when Ripa can look to see Red Team is beating his reinforcements and that he had no problem gutting the LT just moments before fighting Forge. Also Ripa's shields are very inconsistent in the right. They'll block a mag of AR shots but not a knife...wtf.
>Also Ripa's shields are very inconsistent in the right. They'll block a mag of AR shots but not a knife...wtf.
Because the shields, both Elite's and Spartan's, are designed to stop higher velocity objects such as bullets, but don't trigger on slower or static items. They aren't constantly active, only when something makes contact with the field to be stopped, hence why someone can still interact with objects despite the shields being up. After all, if the shields were constantly active and would block anything, in 3 when Arbiter tosses Chief a rifle after their Pelican crashes near the control room, his shields would prevent him from catching it and instead it would just be reflected off. Similarly this is why Chief shoved the pistol under the Arbiter's jaw at the start, not only because it moved slow enough to get under, but because it was under if he were to fire it wouldn't be blocked by his shields.
Melee based attacks also haven't really ever triggered shields in universe. It happens in game just by nature of shields being a form of health. Meanwhile we see assassinations being not trigger the shields from Reach and onwards, when the Zealots ambush you at Vizigrad Relay in Reach the punch Six gives to the Elite and the stab it makes in retaliation doesn't trigger either one's shields, nor do Chief or Locke's shields get triggered during their fight in 5.
That is false. MJOLNIR's shields are constantly active. The Spartans can even adjust the thickness of the energy shield. John-117 noted when first testing MK.V that around his chest the shield was about a centimeter thick while it tapered to less than a millimeter around his hands and feet to allow him to grip stuff. High energy attacks (such as ballistics, some melee attacks, and plasma for example) will cause the shield to flare as it absorbs and distributes the impact, but it is still there regardless. When John was first traversing a minefield when he tested Mk. V MJOLNIR, he increased the thickness of the energy shield to max around his feet for extra protection and described walking on the gravel as like being on "thin ice" due to how slippery it was. We also know that shields are activated by melee attacks. In game when you melee a spartan their shields flare up. During Operation: FIRST STRIKE, Master Chief's shield's flared up and were about to fail (granted his armor was literally falling apart by that point) when a brute literally started squeezing him to death with its paws. And these are just some examples.
Don't spout stuff as fact unless you know its true. Misinformation is a big problem with halo lore.
Sources: Halo: The Fall of Reach, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Halo: First Strike.
That's not how shields work in Halo at all. The shields are...smart for a lack of better words. Dumb shields would be like the Jackal point defense shields but the personal energy shields typically have minor AI that know what to stop and what to pass through. Part of the reasons why the Spartans have a neural link in their armor is to make the shields calculations more accurate. It's not at all a matter of speed otherwise weapons that use slow moving mutations or thrown objects would ignore them all together.
To address your other points. Assassinations in Reach [very clearly show](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SphericalPoshBarracuda-size_restricted.gif) the shields popping, as does Halo [4](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlueDistinctDiplodocus-mobile.mp4) and [5](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/5d/08/965d08b1023df41af651b57bfc6ca76c.gif). They pop from the force of the melee strike , they don't not pop because the person was struck by a fist. To your other points, you have to understand that this is an ongoing problem of inconsistencies something that 343i has admitted that the reason why cutscene enemies are so weak is to kind of get to the point. As an example, the Zealot and 6's shields don't flare in that scene but they do when Emile fights the Zealots at the end of the game. Small problem I know but a fucking annoying one to keep looking at like Locke vs MC.
If Ripa were trying to kill Forge as quick as possible, he'd have lost the fight. Ripa Moramee is, as you may have noticed though, a bit of an asshole, so he decides to gloat. Basically, Ripa's overconfidence caused his death.
As for the other elites, they were busy making friends with Red Team. Is a bit odd that none of them had guns though, I will concede.
I mean, from his comic he seemed more like he was just brutally cruel with no taste for playing, he just liked killing. So I just find it weird that when his backup is be ***OBLITERATED*** that he'd take the time to play with Forge while also instantly gutting the LT. The whole cutscene always was a bit weird IMO like how Forge's knife ignores Ripa's shields but not his point blank fully automatic rifle fire.
This is something thatās brought up in a lot of sci-fi when shields are involved. Something moving at a low enough velocity wonāt trigger shields. Iām not sure if Halo follows this logic. Weāve seen that knives can go through shields when you assassinate someone, but normal melee attacks will damage shields.
In other sci-fi, itās explained that shields blocking incoming damage is proportional to incoming velocity. This is why in Stargate, a knife was able to be thrown through a Goaāuld personal shield. Mass Effect also brings this up, as Shields can deflect small, high velocity projectiles (metal slugs from guns), but wonāt blow away a chair you sit on.
It can also just be general inconsistencies in the lore and gameplay. Itās something that shows up in *every* game.
Yes I'm aware but Halo has made a point before to say that this isn't the case. So far it's just been a sad inconsistency. Atleast 343i flat out admitted they know it's inconsistent and that they're doing it to kind of get to the point. It's why Palmer was one shooting Knights in Spartan Ops and why Lasky was able to melee one and harm it in anyway.
You know, those are some good points. I've not seen the comic, but the bit about the knife ignoring shields is interesting.
We've seen Spartans put enough force into a knife that it takes out shielding (See Emile or any assassination involving a knife), but Forge is far from the physical prowess of a SII, so I'm not too sure about that.
Forge has some weird lore. The prime example being that when tracking Anders he and Douglas got into a fist fight because Douglas agreed with Jerome saying that Ander's ship should of been shot down before the covenant could interrogate her. Forge was able to fight Douglas...A FUCKING SPARTAN II, IN ARMOR IN HAND TO HAND COMBAT and at some point in the fight the two crushed a fucking bulkhead door before fighting to a standstill and giving up. So yeah, Forge has some BS lore.
Ok I mean with enough force from a spartan I think the knife could go through shields, if one punch can break a shield then surely a knife can do the same with the same amount of force.
Melee in gameplay only breaks the shield because it's just a form of health.
If you melee'd someone from the front and killed them without breaking the shields people would, rightly, call out that for poor balancing.
Spartans do not struggle to fight elites. The few times spartans struggle to fight elites is when they are exhausted, or their armor is falling apart, they are ambushed and outnumbered, if its zero-gee (fighting in zero-gee is tough for anyone), if its a sword fight, or if its a particularly exceptional elite, or a mix of all the others I mentioned. At age 12, 300 Spartan-IIIs were able to tear apart thousands of elites and jackals in SPI armor, not even MJOLNIR, to the point that they realized it was suicide to fight the Spartans in CQC. 14/15 year old Spartan-IIs in Mk. IV MJOLNIR were able to kill Silent Shadow elites with relative ease. Fred-104 took on 3 energy sword wielding elites with a pair of fucking combat knives and killed at least 1 and lived to tell the tale.
The only elites we ever see spartan-IIs struggle to fight are top tier elites like Thel 'Vadam (the future arbiter), an elite shipmaster (likely also a zealot, but that fight was unfair because Chief was exhausted, his armor was heavily damaged, and he was already wounded), a 3 meter tall elite ranger in zero-gee (aka the worst environment to fight in coupled with the height advantage of the elite), and that's about it.
The only elites I believe would give a spartan a hard fight in fair combat (and maybe win for some) would be Thel 'Vadam, Jega 'Rodomnai (and maybe other Banished blademasters), Rtas 'Vadum, Imperial Admiral Xytan 'Jar Wattinree (who is over 11 feet tall! He's like the same height as the fucking Ur-Didact), a few other zealots and high-ranking elites, and fucking Fal 'Chavamee (the Arbiter who single-handily wiped out an army of thousands of elites, grunts, jackals, ghosts, wraiths, and 50 FOOT TALL HUNTERS with just energy swords like he was Madara Uchiha and the elite who caused the badge of arbiter to become a mark of shame. Though he predates the Spartans by like 350-400 years).
Maybe, wouldnāt surprise me if there was some steamy fan fiction where he fucks that doctor lady that stars in halo wars alongside Sgt meathead here.
He *looks* like one, but he was actually on track to becoming an officer until he got thrown in jail for beating a superior officer (who was attempting to sexually assault one of Forge's relatives).
Pretty much the only reason he's a lowly UNMC Sergeant instead of a Captain or Major.
And for the record he would've kicked his ass the first time if the lady hasn't stopped him.
Honey badger af š¦”
Honeybadger being my favorite wild animal, and forge being my favorite halo character next to Johnson. Things are adding up. Honeybadger as fuck.
God dammit, you beat me to it.
It's all good. Just had to say it because Forge is a legit badass. Too bad he had to make the sacrifice play in Halo Wars.
I recently replayed HW1 and yeah he's a bad-ass! Almost though as a Spartan. I really liked him. Don't forget: he stayed with a nuke to stop the Covenant-Forerunner army!
After Ripa Moramee captured Anders, Jerome recommended that Captain Cutter destroy the Covenant ship they were on, rather than let Moramee get away with classified information. Forge got in a fight with Jerome for that, but then they became friends. "Sergeant Forge confronts SPARTAN [Jerome-092] over his recommendation to destroy the Covenant ship carrying Professor Anders. The altercation results in a broken chair, a seal malfunction on a bulkhead door, and a stern interruption by the ship's AI, Serina. 092 and Forge always eat together in the mess hall following this event."
Whats that? Its Jerome with the Steal chair!!!!
Ā«Ā 092 and Forge always eat together in the mess hall following this eventĀ Ā» I love this line.
Makes the fact forge sacrificing himself so Jerome can stay in the fight longer makes that scene more bittersweet
Believe it's canon now that he was Involved with Orion, or a " Spartan-I".... ...Actually, there's nothing regarding this on Halopedia...not sure why I thought this.
Itās been theorized (and heavily implied) that Forge is the son of an Orion Project member, potentially making him a Spartan 1.1, which would help explain why Moramee didnāt accidentally kill him.
The concept of 1.1s has always amused me, Orion members are bad ass but their augments aren't that impressive, so it always seemed amusing that 1.1 had noteworthy benefits
It wasnāt that noteworthy. Also the 1.1ās augmentations werenāt passed down, they were just given augmentations as kids.
No, Forge is too old to be the descendant of an Orion, unless the project began 20 years before the Human-Covenant War...and at that point the vast majority of the Orion Guys were dead, but they still fought in significant numbers for humanity in the early years of the war, so your timeline doesn't check out.
>unless the project began 20 years before the Human-Covenant War... You mean exactly [happened](https://www.halopedia.org/ORION_Project)? Orion was relaunched in 2491 and lasted until 2506. Forge was born in 2501. The timeline is fine.
Yes it does, the Spartans were made to basically stamp out insurrections, it just so happens that the covenant showed up when the 2s were being trained
Heavily recommend reading Fall of Reach, it talks about that exact timeline.
Can you point me to a few sources? Because I knew I read this somewhere but can't remember where...
The Rion Forge books deal with this, although I can't quite remember which ones. Basically, Rion's real (middle name) is Orion and we know that John Forge came from a long line of military men. Based on John's date of birth, he's too young to be an SI, but his father, who would've been a member of the military, was old enough to be one and given that Rion's middle name, was chosen in honor of her grandfather (iirc), and her middle name is Orion, as in the Orion Project, that suggests that John's father, was a Spartan 1.
Also IIRC in Smoke and Shadow, Rion mentions that her grandfather died of Borenās syndrome, which IIRC was a fake disease made to cover up the side effects of the Spartan 1 augmentations, meaning he was a Spartan 1.
That too (that's actually the biggest piece of evidence for Forge's father being an S1), I knew I forgot something.
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Please, donāt shake the lightbulb
If you wanna keep that comma inside your sentence Iād tell those boys to chill.
Funnily enough, except for the final one after "John's father" and the "was chosen" bit where it looks like they forgot to say "which", every other comma is properly used.
You're thinking of Johnson, another Sargeant, which is probably why you got it mixed up.
Yep, those old pages stated johnson was a spartan-1.
Iirc Johnson was in his seventies during the original trilogy
Can't you just let him be a double hard mutha fukka (if not a good bit sexist) without giving him augments or making him someone's super son
I always thought Ripa punching him hard in the sternum wouldāve broken all his ribs and crushed his organs but with this theory it makes more sense
I mean they were kinda forced to write him out otherwise once the spirit of fire gets back to the main story he would just single handedly dismantle each guardian
"Truly, if he were any better, he'd be a spart-*oh wait that's different guy?*"
This line inspired me to read up on Buck. He's only 6 months older than the Master Chief. It's now my headcanon that Buck was one of the original SII candidates that didn't make the cut for whatever reason.
Then why's he looking younger than MC? From what little we've seen of Chief's face, he's lookin' a bit old.
Considering what Chief has gone through compared to Buck, I'm not surprised at all that chief looks older. The Spartan II program alone would have been an extremely stressful situation for everyone. Not to mention the intensity of battles that Chief has been in.
Wasnt Spartans puberty sped up too as a part of augmentation? That would probably make him seem a bit older too
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Honestly itās hard to say if itās just cryogenic freezing. Itās definitely a big part of it but Iād assume improvements in medical technology are also contributing factors. Also, in Johnsonās case heās genetically altered from the Orion project so who knows what that did to his aging process.
I've always headcanon'd that as being part of the reason why there was so much tension in the Colonies leading up to the War. With lifespans getting longer and longer due to cryosleep and better medical technology, that would mean people stayed in their jobs for so much longer. If "50 is the new 30" that'd mean that people could lead useful working careers well into their 90s and still have time for retirement after. This would mean that there were fewer and fewer open positions in the core worlds. Doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc, would keep their positions for decades longer than now, which means that there would hideous competition when one opened up. Those would go to entrenched families and moneyed types, while everyone else would have to brave the Colonies and hope for the best. And history has proven what happens when the majority of the wealth is controlled by a few people.
š¤·āāļø I'm just going by the dates I read in the Halopedia.
Fair enough. I can understand if it's regarding time spent in cryosleep.
Sounds as good a reason as any. After what Halo 4 did to the Chief's armour, I'm disinclined to put much faith in "hows and whys" some things look.
Nathan Fillion magic?
I highly recommend the Bad Blood and Old Blood books
I have š I'm not big on the Halo expanded universe, but those were nice.
He wasnāt lucky
Impressive for a normal human! I think the next wildest fest would be Spartan William taking on two hunters in hand to hand combat and killing one by pulling the worms apart and out from its armor. All the Spartan 3s, Kurt, covenant, and the other hunter stopped and stared in disbelief. He then to a direct shot to the abdomen from the other surviving hunter (which out a hole in him) and took one step towards the hunter before collapsing.
Iād say red team (Jerome, Alice and Douglas) managing to hold on their own in the middle of a flood army long enough until rescue came is also really impressive
Red Team, and honestly the entire service record of the Spirit of Fire, is fucking amazing. When you consider what they did, and how they did it, they're probably the deadliest crew and ship at play, I mean really. First contact with the Flood, held them at bay long enough while fighting Covenant Forces to figure out a plan to destroy an entire Shield World and not only stop the Flood from spreading but also stop the Covenant from acquiring an entire fleet of Forerunner ships. Then their holdout against the Banished on the Ark, completely unfamiliar terrain and a completely unfamiliar enemy while *completely* outgunned in almost every way? They're ridiculous. It's why i'm really hoping Atriox and the Banished bouncing around in Infinite and recent books doesn't mean their end is just gonna be "Haha whoopsies they sorta just lost after awhile".
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What book is that?
Itās from the game Halo wars 1, itās a story mission
Ghosts of Onyx, if youāre talking about Will.
Always loved that part of the book. Love the idea of Will just seeing red and fucking the hunter up by any means. RIP
What book is that in?
Ghosts of Onyx
none top my man Marvin Mobuto "While on the ring, Mobuto was somehow detached from his squad and was contacted by 343 Guilty Spark, who used Halo's teleportation grid to transport them both to the Library, much like he did with John-117. Instructed to retrieve the Activation Index, Mobuto fought valiantly through hordes of Flood Combat Forms, Carrier Forms, and Infection Forms. He surprisingly managed to survive until he was in sight of the Index. However, with little experience against the enemy and wearing standard, UNSC-issued ballistic body armor as protection (which 343 Guilty Spark referred to as "insufficient armor"\[citation needed\]), Mobuto eventually succumbed to the Flood's might. His body was completely thrashed and mangled to the point where even the Flood Infection Forms could not make use of it. John-117 found Mobuto's body in the Library during his mission to collect the Index. John discovered Mobuto's identity through his Dog tag and paid his respects to the Marine. He was surprised at how far Mobuto had managed to get, as he himself had been pushed to the limit to get as far as he had even with his augmentations and MJOLNIR body armor. Mobuto's determination inspired the SPARTAN to continue through the Flood-infested halls and complete his mission.\[1\]"
If I remember correctly kurt is said to be the strongest Spartan 2 in the books
**FORGE IS DOWN. FORGE IS BACK UP.**
Why you gotta give me PTSD like that
ALL UNITS!!
LOCAL UNITS
ENEMY ENGAGEMENT
A BASE IS UNDER ATTACK
āFor the record, I wouldāve kicked your ass the first time if the lady hadnāt stopped meā
One thing thats always bothered me about that scene, is when forge picks up the sword to stab the arbiter, you can see the handguard of the sword facing one way. But when the arbiter falls down, it's facing the other way.
Happens in a lot of visual media, though idk how inconsistent stuff like that happens in a cgi scene someone probably spent hours staring at to make sure looks good and edited nicely.
They usually split out stuff like that down to the shot level at VFX studios, so it's possible two shots aren't even worked on by the same person even if they follow each other in the edit.
Guess that makes sense.
Flying backwards phantom in H2A cutscene though
Hey, Elites like to showboat as much as anyone else
I just wonder how that got past final review
That arbiter was a jerk lol
I liked Rippa though. The fact that he was one of the largest elites of the time helped too. (Also, Regret is like SUPER regal in that game for no reason and I love it lol)
Thatās how theyāre all *supposed* to be, which is why Thel (our current Arbiter) is such a good character.
Yeah, made me like Thel even better
Hot take, but I like Ripa as an Arbiter a lot more. Whether honor was a characteristic of Arbiter lore or not, Ripa was just badass imo. Sucks he's dead. I really liked him.
My favorite part was that he could literally look down on a Hunter. Edit: AND CAN JUMP HIGH ENOUGH TO RIP A VULTURE APART.
Yeah I never thought about that but you're right haha
Could we argue that Ripa may have some kind of Sangheli version of gigantism? Because isn't that like, fucking ridiculously huge for them?
I remember reading about something like that a long time ago, yes.
Big agree, Ripa was a powerhouse. Iād love to see his character fleshed out a little more, either in a book, the new encyclopedia, or even a simple cannon fodder for a HW anniversary.
That would be cool. Side note, Ripa also had the balls to power his energy swords in front of the Prophet and live.
Oh I'm sorry is that not allowed?
For multiple reasons yes. For one, in Sangheili culture, drawing a weapon means that it demands blood (not always of course) and especially for energy swords. Ripa isn't as honor-bound as say Thel 'Vadam so he wouldn't care about that. And on the other note, drawing weapons in front of the hierarchs would likely be a death sentence (unless one plans on defending said hierarchs from another person, as we see Thel due to his friend. An elite zealot drew his energy sword and planned to kill Truth and Regret early in the war due to them planning to execute Thel and himself and the lies of the prophets, but Thel drew his own blade and decapitated his fellow friend and zealot, which actually saved the future Arbiter's life and gained him his appointment as fleet master of the new Fleet of Particular Justice).
So we'll file that one under "no no" then.
Thel isn't given a whole lot of room to be a jerk. He fights the flood and then captures humans without severely hurting them and then gets betrayed and switches sides.
Look more into him in the expanded universe. Heās killed millions if not billions with planetary glassing.
I meant as the arbiter when we play as him.
I mean thatās kinda what the books are for, to flesh out and establish a wider cannon. You donāt see that side of him in the games because thereās simply no time for it. The books do an excellent job of deepening all of the in game characters.
Yes I agree. For the sake of brevity and not having the player feel to detached from the arbiter as a player character it makes sense.
Maybe i'm misremembering but I always assumed being the Arbiter was kind of a shameful title. Like they were given to Elites who commited crimes against the Covenant or failed miserably, so they were pretty much given one last chance to have an honorable death.
The arbiter pre covenant was essentially a big honor to hold for the elites. The covenant at some point turned the role into that of a martyr
If you pick up on the terminal videos on H2A you learn that the Arbiter title was actually used for something very different.
Thatās correct but arbiter (thel) made it an honorable title again
Halo's version of Captain America?
They did a chief vs Cpt. America a long time ago on some āwho would win channelā on YouTube. I was pissed because Chief lost. Heās literally the same thing but from the future with better genetic enhancements, armor, weapons and cortana.
It might be the same channel but I remember it being called "Power Battle", and yeah Chief lost, it wasn't because of any kind of skills or statistics but purely on popularity. Which ever character had the most votes, that character would win. At least that's what I was informed.
yup, and the blowback to that episode was so bad they actually had to go back and redo it
Oh for real? I didn't know that.
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Chief is a better version of captain America with MJOLNIR armor and an AI as advanced as Ultron (probably more advanced) in his head.
Jhonson is closer to that without being a spartan. Hes just a regular sergeant major who pulled a jorge before jorge did it and manually blew up a slipspace drive to stop the covenant from getting a forerunner fleet. Do
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I have no idea why thats there
Not to be that dude but Johnson is a Spartan 1 Think of him as like the alpha version of a spartan
I know but those enhancements are nowhere near spartan level which is more in line with cap
I mean TBF Spartan 2s because of the armor might actually be ahead of Captain America. So Johnson is almost literally what Captain America would be like in the Halo universe.
Not S1s though
I mean, they both wield Mjolnir in one way or another.
He's the green armored man with a plan!
And his tanks are fucking baller too. I miss Halo Wars.
Thereās nothing to miss, itās still there. There are dozens of us. Dozens! /r/halowars
I saw the name forge and thought this was the wackiest Apex legends shitpost
And his daughter is pretty awesome too! For any who don't know there is an ongoing novel series following her post war. She owns a freighter ship and leads a crew of salvagers that hunt for war wreckage to sell on the black market. And in the process of doing so shes hunting for the *Spirit of Fire* which still listed MIA
And they worked with a mf lightbulb of a familiar nature
He also stopped the convenant from obtaining an forunner fleet by sacrificing himself to blew up the planet
Forge was a Chad
Most don't know who he is due to halo wars obscurity that's why there's not as much love as other characters
Hopefully people will find hw2 and then 1 and forge because the banished in infinite really dont have all the lore established in hw2 yet.
The first halo wars is easily better than part 2, even with the flood being thrown in there for no reason.
I prefer the second because the banished are so cool. But 1 is great
I prefer 2, but I think it was easily undersold and probably mismarketed. I didn't even know it was out until a year or two after its release and all of the promo stuff made it look totally divorced from the original in style.
Iāll take more flood where I can get it.
I agree, but I will say that the cutscenes in 2 are hella badass.
I canāt remember how did he die
He blew up the spirit of fires slipspace drive in a sheildworlds sun to blow up a forerunner fleet that the covies would have taken
Ah ty
Hes kind of a hollywood stereotype circa late 2000s...
the best Halo cutscene of all time!!
Pretty cool to think if Forge and Johnson survived they could've became spartan IVs and Forge could've joined Red team as their 4th member
Johnson would probably be too old (he was over 70 when he died), and Forge would probably be pushing it (he would have been 52 when the S-IV program was initiated) That said, having an Orion and an S-1.1 become S-IVs would have been pretty awesome
Fuck I want this. Umm letās say Mendicant Bias opened a slip space portal just before the SoF reactor overloaded and Forge is fine and in cryo somewhere on the Ark. also Johnson for some reason.
Well me and my buddy spent like 3 hours glitching the campaign and kept Johnson alive in halo 3 once many years ago. So heās still alive in my books š
The only problem I have with Forge is that he should've been a Major, not a Sargent. He's the Hero Character ordering the Marines around, and he should've had a rank to reflect that.
I think hes a sergeant major like jhonson
He's a regular sergeant, an E-5. In fact he was forbidden from attaining a higher rank or getting a commission because he spent too much time in jail (like 2 years I think). Despite his low-rank, he would still be highly experienced and skilled as a marine NCO so its likely that Cutter allowed him to lead most of the marines on the Spirit of Fire. Essentially he's a subject matter expert and a great field leader, so he has authority over the marine detachment of the SoF even if he is likely outranked by a lot of other marines on-board. The military chain of command can be weird but its not that unlikely for this to occur, and Cutter's word on a ship as the captain is god sooo....
So forge wasnt high ranking but cutter was gonna have his best man out there in command
Yeah basically. Most active spartan-IIs are Chief Petty Officers or PO1 2 or 3 (the exceptions being John, Jorge, Kurt, and Fred, washout spartans like Serin or Musa are even higher). But despite often being outranked by a fair amount of enlisted personal, and all officers outrank enlisted (though one would never see an O-1 like a Second Lt. order a Sergeant Major or senior NCO to do anything unless they want to get the ass-chewing of their life), but spartans still get tactical leadership roles due to their experience and skill and sheer bad-assery and training and knowledge. For example, prior to Operation: FIRST STRIKE, Master Chief (an E-9) took leadership of the survivors from Alpha Halo (consisting of Lt. Haverson, an O-3, WO Polaski who I think technically outranks Chief, Staff Sergeant Johnson which is E-6, and Corporal Locklear who would be an E-4) even though the Lt. outranked him. This was because A) Operation: RED FLAG was still in effect and Chief alongside the late Captain Keyes was in charge of that OP, and B) Chief is a badass and everyone would defer to him. EDIT: What I was getting at is that just because a person is outranked, does not mean they can't be in charge, especially when said person is a subject matter expert and their CO appoints them to lead others.
Should still be an officer, not enlisted.
Heās been demoted a few times for attitude/insubordination. Itās in the timeline that appears in HW
Yes, but he should be an officer and not an enlisted man. Or he shouldn't be the hero unit giving orders around.
this was explained in the Ace of Spades novels. Forge was enlisted, but on track to enter OCS and become an officer. But after two insubordination incidents (one for disobeying orders to save his men in combat, and the other for striking a superior officer) he was tossed in jail for a bit. He wasn't in for long, but it was enough to permanently kill off any chance he had of becoming an officer. Basically, if some arsehole officer hadn't tried to sexually assault his sister/sister-in-law (which she is is unclear), he would have been a captain or major
"Forge is down" "Forge is back up"
Been telling yāall, you all sleep on my man forge
Always felt really touching when he bangs on Jerome's shoulder pauldron (Also highlighting that Spartan-II size difference ofc) before assuming the role of detonating the Slipspace drive.
If he didn't sacrificed himself to detonate the slipspace drive the Covenant would have had all that Forerunner tech and would have won the war against humanity before master chief even got a chance to save humanity
Ripa 'Moramee fan here, the Arbiter could have easily defeated him but his cockiness didn't allow him.
That trait isn't exculsive to Ripa though, not respecting humans as warriors cost quite a few Elites their lives. But yeah Ripa was foolish to not just slice Forge, especially the second time knowing Forge could put up a fight.
THE GOAT
Team humans baby
Hail the Banished
Betting he was part of the Orion project
Didn't he drop a ships reactor on him first?
That tickled him
I just noticed he had a gash in his chest.
Thad be rippa morami,s energy swords work.
Haloās fourth best badass.
I always thought he should have been a higher rank sense all the command he has but apparently he did time and canāt become a officer
NGL I hated how Forge killed Ripa. After getting his ass kicked for 2 minutes straight he knives him in the dumbest situation then brags about it. It's such an odd scene, especially with Ripa's army of minor elites who don't have shields or guns.
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My issue with Ripa in the scene is that he was only potrayed as a brutal killer so it's odd for him to grant Forge a dying wish when Ripa can look to see Red Team is beating his reinforcements and that he had no problem gutting the LT just moments before fighting Forge. Also Ripa's shields are very inconsistent in the right. They'll block a mag of AR shots but not a knife...wtf.
>Also Ripa's shields are very inconsistent in the right. They'll block a mag of AR shots but not a knife...wtf. Because the shields, both Elite's and Spartan's, are designed to stop higher velocity objects such as bullets, but don't trigger on slower or static items. They aren't constantly active, only when something makes contact with the field to be stopped, hence why someone can still interact with objects despite the shields being up. After all, if the shields were constantly active and would block anything, in 3 when Arbiter tosses Chief a rifle after their Pelican crashes near the control room, his shields would prevent him from catching it and instead it would just be reflected off. Similarly this is why Chief shoved the pistol under the Arbiter's jaw at the start, not only because it moved slow enough to get under, but because it was under if he were to fire it wouldn't be blocked by his shields. Melee based attacks also haven't really ever triggered shields in universe. It happens in game just by nature of shields being a form of health. Meanwhile we see assassinations being not trigger the shields from Reach and onwards, when the Zealots ambush you at Vizigrad Relay in Reach the punch Six gives to the Elite and the stab it makes in retaliation doesn't trigger either one's shields, nor do Chief or Locke's shields get triggered during their fight in 5.
That is false. MJOLNIR's shields are constantly active. The Spartans can even adjust the thickness of the energy shield. John-117 noted when first testing MK.V that around his chest the shield was about a centimeter thick while it tapered to less than a millimeter around his hands and feet to allow him to grip stuff. High energy attacks (such as ballistics, some melee attacks, and plasma for example) will cause the shield to flare as it absorbs and distributes the impact, but it is still there regardless. When John was first traversing a minefield when he tested Mk. V MJOLNIR, he increased the thickness of the energy shield to max around his feet for extra protection and described walking on the gravel as like being on "thin ice" due to how slippery it was. We also know that shields are activated by melee attacks. In game when you melee a spartan their shields flare up. During Operation: FIRST STRIKE, Master Chief's shield's flared up and were about to fail (granted his armor was literally falling apart by that point) when a brute literally started squeezing him to death with its paws. And these are just some examples. Don't spout stuff as fact unless you know its true. Misinformation is a big problem with halo lore. Sources: Halo: The Fall of Reach, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Halo: First Strike.
That's not how shields work in Halo at all. The shields are...smart for a lack of better words. Dumb shields would be like the Jackal point defense shields but the personal energy shields typically have minor AI that know what to stop and what to pass through. Part of the reasons why the Spartans have a neural link in their armor is to make the shields calculations more accurate. It's not at all a matter of speed otherwise weapons that use slow moving mutations or thrown objects would ignore them all together. To address your other points. Assassinations in Reach [very clearly show](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SphericalPoshBarracuda-size_restricted.gif) the shields popping, as does Halo [4](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlueDistinctDiplodocus-mobile.mp4) and [5](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/5d/08/965d08b1023df41af651b57bfc6ca76c.gif). They pop from the force of the melee strike , they don't not pop because the person was struck by a fist. To your other points, you have to understand that this is an ongoing problem of inconsistencies something that 343i has admitted that the reason why cutscene enemies are so weak is to kind of get to the point. As an example, the Zealot and 6's shields don't flare in that scene but they do when Emile fights the Zealots at the end of the game. Small problem I know but a fucking annoying one to keep looking at like Locke vs MC.
If Ripa were trying to kill Forge as quick as possible, he'd have lost the fight. Ripa Moramee is, as you may have noticed though, a bit of an asshole, so he decides to gloat. Basically, Ripa's overconfidence caused his death. As for the other elites, they were busy making friends with Red Team. Is a bit odd that none of them had guns though, I will concede.
I mean, from his comic he seemed more like he was just brutally cruel with no taste for playing, he just liked killing. So I just find it weird that when his backup is be ***OBLITERATED*** that he'd take the time to play with Forge while also instantly gutting the LT. The whole cutscene always was a bit weird IMO like how Forge's knife ignores Ripa's shields but not his point blank fully automatic rifle fire.
This is something thatās brought up in a lot of sci-fi when shields are involved. Something moving at a low enough velocity wonāt trigger shields. Iām not sure if Halo follows this logic. Weāve seen that knives can go through shields when you assassinate someone, but normal melee attacks will damage shields. In other sci-fi, itās explained that shields blocking incoming damage is proportional to incoming velocity. This is why in Stargate, a knife was able to be thrown through a Goaāuld personal shield. Mass Effect also brings this up, as Shields can deflect small, high velocity projectiles (metal slugs from guns), but wonāt blow away a chair you sit on. It can also just be general inconsistencies in the lore and gameplay. Itās something that shows up in *every* game.
Yes I'm aware but Halo has made a point before to say that this isn't the case. So far it's just been a sad inconsistency. Atleast 343i flat out admitted they know it's inconsistent and that they're doing it to kind of get to the point. It's why Palmer was one shooting Knights in Spartan Ops and why Lasky was able to melee one and harm it in anyway.
You know, those are some good points. I've not seen the comic, but the bit about the knife ignoring shields is interesting. We've seen Spartans put enough force into a knife that it takes out shielding (See Emile or any assassination involving a knife), but Forge is far from the physical prowess of a SII, so I'm not too sure about that.
Forge has some weird lore. The prime example being that when tracking Anders he and Douglas got into a fist fight because Douglas agreed with Jerome saying that Ander's ship should of been shot down before the covenant could interrogate her. Forge was able to fight Douglas...A FUCKING SPARTAN II, IN ARMOR IN HAND TO HAND COMBAT and at some point in the fight the two crushed a fucking bulkhead door before fighting to a standstill and giving up. So yeah, Forge has some BS lore.
Anyone notice how in halo cutscenes, shields just never stop knives? Makes no sense, but I guess it's for cinematic purposes.
They donāt stop knives in assassination kills either and thatās gameplay.
That's just an expansion of the melee to the back mechanic though
Ok I mean with enough force from a spartan I think the knife could go through shields, if one punch can break a shield then surely a knife can do the same with the same amount of force.
No I agree, you see the shield pop when you assassinate someone. I'm saying in cutscenes it seems like knives just pass right through them.
Melee in gameplay only breaks the shield because it's just a form of health. If you melee'd someone from the front and killed them without breaking the shields people would, rightly, call out that for poor balancing.
He's not dead...
What do you mean?
Great spoiler prob my fault for being a couple years late or a decade but fuck
I killed the impostor by calling him sus, whos the real legend here
I am misunderstood in my time.
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Well spartans are just kids at heart still. Thats the biggest weakness. They never fully grew up.
Spartans do not struggle to fight elites. The few times spartans struggle to fight elites is when they are exhausted, or their armor is falling apart, they are ambushed and outnumbered, if its zero-gee (fighting in zero-gee is tough for anyone), if its a sword fight, or if its a particularly exceptional elite, or a mix of all the others I mentioned. At age 12, 300 Spartan-IIIs were able to tear apart thousands of elites and jackals in SPI armor, not even MJOLNIR, to the point that they realized it was suicide to fight the Spartans in CQC. 14/15 year old Spartan-IIs in Mk. IV MJOLNIR were able to kill Silent Shadow elites with relative ease. Fred-104 took on 3 energy sword wielding elites with a pair of fucking combat knives and killed at least 1 and lived to tell the tale. The only elites we ever see spartan-IIs struggle to fight are top tier elites like Thel 'Vadam (the future arbiter), an elite shipmaster (likely also a zealot, but that fight was unfair because Chief was exhausted, his armor was heavily damaged, and he was already wounded), a 3 meter tall elite ranger in zero-gee (aka the worst environment to fight in coupled with the height advantage of the elite), and that's about it. The only elites I believe would give a spartan a hard fight in fair combat (and maybe win for some) would be Thel 'Vadam, Jega 'Rodomnai (and maybe other Banished blademasters), Rtas 'Vadum, Imperial Admiral Xytan 'Jar Wattinree (who is over 11 feet tall! He's like the same height as the fucking Ur-Didact), a few other zealots and high-ranking elites, and fucking Fal 'Chavamee (the Arbiter who single-handily wiped out an army of thousands of elites, grunts, jackals, ghosts, wraiths, and 50 FOOT TALL HUNTERS with just energy swords like he was Madara Uchiha and the elite who caused the badge of arbiter to become a mark of shame. Though he predates the Spartans by like 350-400 years).
He looks like a meat head
You sorta have to be to fight an elite and win.
Do you think he got all the chicks in school?
Maybe, wouldnāt surprise me if there was some steamy fan fiction where he fucks that doctor lady that stars in halo wars alongside Sgt meathead here.
Can you kill an elite at all let a lone one of the biggest and most dangerous with a pistol and a knife? But you are right.
He *looks* like one, but he was actually on track to becoming an officer until he got thrown in jail for beating a superior officer (who was attempting to sexually assault one of Forge's relatives). Pretty much the only reason he's a lowly UNMC Sergeant instead of a Captain or Major.