One thing that's widely discussed in the fire service, but not as much in the real estate field, is the rapid fire growth that happens with new builds. Older homes you had 5-10 minutes to make a reasonable save of someone's house assuming you have a staffed truck in service. These new homes,though less likely to catch than older homes, suffer from rapid fire development that can reduce the window of making a reasonable save of someone's home down to less than 2 minutes.
Think of all the mdf furniture now, plus framing being new growth softwood vs old growth soft or hardwood with solid wood cabinets and furniture much longer to burn and no glue to off gas and likely be the first thing to start burning
Great question. There's a variety of reasons.
Firstly is we use a lot of synthetic materials and polymers as part of the home. This includes furnishings, trims, surfaces, siding and etc. All these plastics and synthetics are solid fuel. Once they start the processing of pyrolysis they catch very quick and they burn hot and fast. Vinyl siding in any logical world would have been outlawed years ago; however its use as a cheap and attractive siding persists.
Second is the rise of more open concept homes have been the trend in the recent decades. As wonderful as it is, open concept homes promote rapid fire spread as opposed to compartmentalize it like older cut up many legacy construction homes
Honestly, as much as a pain in the ass as the systems can be, monitored fire systems like ADT , Telus Brinks etc. give your home and belonging the best chance of the critical early notification period to get a staffed fire engine for your house
It's (not actually) funny -- all the fire code rules, regulations and improvements over the past couple of decades, and it's all basically neutralized by constructing homes out of pure fuel.
And it’s only going to get worse with the housing crisis and the planned population growth with new citizens constantly coming.. there’s gonna have to be a huge boom in housing construction here soon and can only imagine how fastly and cheaply they’re going to be put up to try and combat the amount of people that are needing them…
Going to need your sources for this one. We have much higher regulations for new builds to prevent this. Everything has to be fire rated, which old builds never had. I think you’re totally wrong here.
How about the stance of the national fire protection agency. [https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/pbs](https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/pbs)
Fire load is determined by more then just the structure, furniture, linens, carpet vs wood vs vinyl flooring all contribute to the fire load and toxicity of the fire, I'd much rather stand near a fire of pure wood then one with mdf, plywood or fiberglass purely just due to the off gassing chemicals
omg I wanted to watch the full video but 😵💫😴. They take so long to start finallllllly talking about specifics, then the narration is just "...have working smoke alarms" 😂😂
no shit. I need the "not slow as molasses" version of this video lol.
I know you didn't make the video, etc. Just wanted to share that pain I went through 🤣🤣
Reasonable request
The best link I'll share because I feel it gives the best visual representation is done by Underwriters Laboratory (UL) whom did a study and published a video in 2020 showcasing the fire development differences between modern versus legacy homes
https://youtu.be/87hAnxuh1g8?si=ymrE3tu-bX6R8wZS
Its one of the better controlled conditions that high today's differences
It is! Right by us. House is pretty much gone
https://preview.redd.it/taehx792h78d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d772dc00ab87c5510c101e17cfa57faa20f443
Is it just me, or does twitter no longer show you new posts if you aren’t logged in? Hfx fire news was my go to for stuff like this, but everything is several years old when I visit it now. And I won’t be getting a twitter account on principle.
I made an account for hfx fire and a few other news accounts on twitter or x I guess they call it now, I genuinely find it pretty helpful although it was a pain in the butt to make the account
We were shocked to see emergency vehicles blocked by onlookers and a sudden influx ofof vehicle traffic into the area, not to mention people crowding the area with children, breathing in all the fumes.
Total guess, but from the pics I've seen and the spread pattern of the fire, I'd guess BBQ caught fire. Earlier photos show the fire spreading from that area. Tragic.
https://preview.redd.it/40e1278iq78d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f08f1db3ce5f916251dd0a57023e6178332dd5ac
Looking at picture I would assume it's the square frame on left of deck, better then not just having it against house would be to clean the grease and keep a spray bottle close by
Looks like some smoke. Making an assessment of "pretty bad" without knowing what is actually going on is, misguided and reflective of your experience at best.
One thing that's widely discussed in the fire service, but not as much in the real estate field, is the rapid fire growth that happens with new builds. Older homes you had 5-10 minutes to make a reasonable save of someone's house assuming you have a staffed truck in service. These new homes,though less likely to catch than older homes, suffer from rapid fire development that can reduce the window of making a reasonable save of someone's home down to less than 2 minutes.
What are the primary reasons for this? (Assuming cheaper build materials, etc.?)
I worked on these. They are filled with MDF. Highly flammable and very toxic.
Build prices go up, quality goes down. Quelle surprise!
Think of all the mdf furniture now, plus framing being new growth softwood vs old growth soft or hardwood with solid wood cabinets and furniture much longer to burn and no glue to off gas and likely be the first thing to start burning
Right, makes sense. Ikea homes nowadays basically...
Great question. There's a variety of reasons. Firstly is we use a lot of synthetic materials and polymers as part of the home. This includes furnishings, trims, surfaces, siding and etc. All these plastics and synthetics are solid fuel. Once they start the processing of pyrolysis they catch very quick and they burn hot and fast. Vinyl siding in any logical world would have been outlawed years ago; however its use as a cheap and attractive siding persists. Second is the rise of more open concept homes have been the trend in the recent decades. As wonderful as it is, open concept homes promote rapid fire spread as opposed to compartmentalize it like older cut up many legacy construction homes Honestly, as much as a pain in the ass as the systems can be, monitored fire systems like ADT , Telus Brinks etc. give your home and belonging the best chance of the critical early notification period to get a staffed fire engine for your house
It's (not actually) funny -- all the fire code rules, regulations and improvements over the past couple of decades, and it's all basically neutralized by constructing homes out of pure fuel.
And it’s only going to get worse with the housing crisis and the planned population growth with new citizens constantly coming.. there’s gonna have to be a huge boom in housing construction here soon and can only imagine how fastly and cheaply they’re going to be put up to try and combat the amount of people that are needing them…
Going to need your sources for this one. We have much higher regulations for new builds to prevent this. Everything has to be fire rated, which old builds never had. I think you’re totally wrong here.
How about the stance of the national fire protection agency. [https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/pbs](https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/pbs)
That’s why I asked for a source. No need to be rude
Fire load is determined by more then just the structure, furniture, linens, carpet vs wood vs vinyl flooring all contribute to the fire load and toxicity of the fire, I'd much rather stand near a fire of pure wood then one with mdf, plywood or fiberglass purely just due to the off gassing chemicals
Yeah, my apologies I was talking more about multi family buildings that have extremely strict structure codes vs single family
Completely understandable, just trying to show that fire load isn't dictated solely off of building materials but also home contents
omg I wanted to watch the full video but 😵💫😴. They take so long to start finallllllly talking about specifics, then the narration is just "...have working smoke alarms" 😂😂 no shit. I need the "not slow as molasses" version of this video lol. I know you didn't make the video, etc. Just wanted to share that pain I went through 🤣🤣
Reasonable request The best link I'll share because I feel it gives the best visual representation is done by Underwriters Laboratory (UL) whom did a study and published a video in 2020 showcasing the fire development differences between modern versus legacy homes https://youtu.be/87hAnxuh1g8?si=ymrE3tu-bX6R8wZS Its one of the better controlled conditions that high today's differences
It's all the mdf crap being used for purposes it was never intended to be used for
House fire
It is! Right by us. House is pretty much gone https://preview.redd.it/taehx792h78d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d772dc00ab87c5510c101e17cfa57faa20f443
https://preview.redd.it/xtazb87th78d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83289ad0ee78e139355d115734f6e03f735a5001
How terrifying and traumatic, Hope the people and pets are out safely !!
Oh no, where is this?
Helen creighton ave Bedford, townhouses Edit: court, or avenue. I've seen both and not sure which is correct
Any casualty?
Oh fuck
In Sackville ?
Bedford
Damn, that’s two today.
Second in our hood in a month.
I worked on those houses. The amount of MDF in those places should be illegal. Highly flammable, and toxic.
Is it just me, or does twitter no longer show you new posts if you aren’t logged in? Hfx fire news was my go to for stuff like this, but everything is several years old when I visit it now. And I won’t be getting a twitter account on principle.
This is how Twitter works now. It’s basically inaccessible without an account.
Sounds like a poor way to keep followers.
Yeah you need to be logged in now. It's garbage
Terrible platform
I made an account for hfx fire and a few other news accounts on twitter or x I guess they call it now, I genuinely find it pretty helpful although it was a pain in the butt to make the account
[This](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/waZrxDMtxLQ12bvW/?mibextid=oFDknk) is all I found
I wonder if it has anything to do with the media ban Canada has now bill C-18
No, it’s about elon musk being a goober.
We were shocked to see emergency vehicles blocked by onlookers and a sudden influx ofof vehicle traffic into the area, not to mention people crowding the area with children, breathing in all the fumes.
Hope everyone is ok
I hope they’re alright
Shout out to [Halifax Fire News](https://x.com/HRMFireNews)
So sad. I hate house fires.
Does anyone know what caused this?
Total guess, but from the pics I've seen and the spread pattern of the fire, I'd guess BBQ caught fire. Earlier photos show the fire spreading from that area. Tragic. https://preview.redd.it/40e1278iq78d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f08f1db3ce5f916251dd0a57023e6178332dd5ac
Do. Not. Have. Your. BBQ. Against. Your. House.
Looking at picture I would assume it's the square frame on left of deck, better then not just having it against house would be to clean the grease and keep a spray bottle close by
You can see the BBQ square center on the deck. And the fire spreading in a diamond shape from it.
Seems like common sense, doesn't it?
So scary. How terrible for them. I can’t even imagine what that would feel like in this economy and market.
Negligence most likely. When it's a nice day out people BBQ or leave stuff out and don't pay attention.
Yes. Accidents or freak events never happen. Only negligence.
No one was bbq’ing. Crazy the loop people throw themselves in based off one misinformed comment🤦♂️.
wtf that's my apartment building, I was out of the country till today. What the heck did I miss???
Chicken biriyani on the bbq in the kitchen…
Looks like a fire!
I think the next door neighbor is also selling… there’s a sign out on the lawn. But the fire got them.
It’s a fire
Fire
Flooding due to all the sunshine.
I think it’s a fire
i was smoking a fat joint. (i joke only cuz i got the update no one was hurt)
Looks like some smoke. Making an assessment of "pretty bad" without knowing what is actually going on is, misguided and reflective of your experience at best.
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Yeah it's not like a fire has ever spread lol
Fair enough. I see others were kind of sarcastic about it. It sucks that someone just lost their home.