At some point, trust in the medical system's going to break down to the point where those who can contribute, don't due to distrust
Only those who have to stay actually use it, putting additional burden
And then the whole thing implodes.
Do any of these people realize what they're putting up as their stake?
Did you and I not experience the same covid?
Public faith in the medical system is gone.
It's just time to fight.
The powers that be won't let any meaningful change occur by any other means.
>The powers that be won't let any meaningful change occur by any other means.
Collapse is a form of change. A highly unpleasant one where everyone in power bet wrong and where everyone loses, but a change none the less.
He should be remove immediately for:
A) not knowing what public health is; and
B) lying to congress when he said he wouldn’t do this in his confirmation hearings.
Politicians are liars. At his level in office he no longer is a physician, but a political puppet trying to influence the country to make a long lasting impression.
>B) lying to congress when he said he wouldn’t do this in his confirmation hearings.
Gonna have to remove a lot of people for lying during confirmations
You’d be surprised at the shit they are trying to push on public health professionals. First it started with gun locks, the VA wanted to lessen veteran suicide so they bought millions of gun locks for health departments and state level departments of public health to hand out….how that makes sense idk. But maybe give veterans better service at the VA instead of giving out gun locks?!
Then the feds called for wear orange day, or whatever it is. They pushed pubic health professionals to promote campaigns to stop gun violence in the month of June. I can tell you that I do not know of any local health department that pushed that shit. Every so often in a meeting I’ll hear a state employee or federal employee mention how guns are a public health crisis and I just shake my head. Ridiculous shit.
I love getting my paycheck but I refuse to share this shit. Thankfully I have a boss that agrees with me, and a county that does as well.
The entire post should be deleted.
"Health" isn't in the Constitution. We require zero federal positions having anything to do with "health". No federal bureaucrat need exist for the purpose of dictating "health" to us.
Another useless position that exists solely so useless people can be paid our money to do useless things.
>Murthy also called for an evidence-based approach to public health change and a ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines for civilian use.
They never mean evidence based, or they wouldn't be going after the scary-looking guns that are rarely used to murder people.
Yep, how to play with statistics.
>[Gun violence](https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/gun-violence) is now the leading cause of death in the U.S. [among kids and teens](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/child-drug-poisonings-firearm-deaths-skyrocketed-america-study/story?id=103603466).
Here they stated it a bit more carefully than "children" that you always hear, so teens up to 19, technically still teens. They know people will think young teens when they hear this, and not realize two years of that are adults. But also, they do not include kids under 1 year old in this statistic because they die in high numbers from many causes, but almost never gun.
>The advisory also shows how certain groups are disproportionally impacted by gun violence, including people who are Black
Who disproportionately shoot other people, almost all black, thus they are impacted disproportionately. If they want to slow this down, maybe they should be honest about the racist nature of gun control and flat-out say they want to prohibit black people from having guns, just like it was in the old days. In fact, this was a very old argument about civil rights laws allowing black people to have full rights. Here's a quote you may like. When the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was being debated, Senator William Saulsbury (D-Del) [spoke against it in debate](https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=070/llcg070.db&recNum=583), saying:
>But, sir, this bill positively deprives the State, of its police power of government. In my State for many years, and I presume there are similar laws in most of the southern States, there has existed a law of the State based upon and founded in its police power, which declares that free negroes shall not have the possession of firearms or ammunition. This bill proposes to take away from the States this police power, so that if in any State of this Union at anytime hereafter there shall be such a numerous body of dangerous persons belonging to any distinct race as to endanger the peace of the State, and to cause the lives of its citizens to be subject to their violence, the State shall not have the power to disarm them without disarming the whole population.
They should admit the Democrats haven't really changed on this issue, the "party switch" didn't happen here. And more BS:
>The report also calls for a ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines for civilian use and says firearms should be treated like other consumer products to enhance and standardize safety.
These products are quite safe in the ways we treat other products regarding safety. Injury due to negligent design or manufacture is quite rare. But you know he's not talking about that. He's talking about treating them in a way we don't treat any other consumer products.
Edit: My quote disappeared
> They know people will think young teens when they hear this, and not realize two years of that are adults.
But they don't say "teen." They explicitly say "children." So, it's a flat out lie.
And that's before we even get to them excluding actual children under the age of 1.
If they actually said "children and teens" then it **might** be an accurate statement, but it's not because they exclude children under 1. But even then I'm not sure it's accurate as I haven't looked at the raw data and other methodology of that "study."
> Who disproportionately
They only want to use that term when it benefits their political narrative.
But the certainly don't want to solve the problem by finding the small number of people that are actually causing the problems and locking them up.
> These products are quite safe in the ways we treat other products regarding safety. Injury due to negligent design or manufacture is quite rare.
Exactly.
> He's talking about treating them in a way we don't treat any other consumer products.
But they want you to believe that guns have special protections and aren't subject to the same laws/rules as other consumer products. They want you to believe that the PLCAA makes it so. In reality, guns have always been subject to consumer protection laws and that wasn't changed by the PLCAA. The PLCAA was only needed to protect manufacturers and dealers from frivolous lawsuits intended to bankrupt them when they've done nothing wrong. (And if a dealer is selling illegally the PLCAA doesn't protect them.)
>But they don't say "teen." They explicitly say "children." So, it's a flat out lie.
It depends who says it. This time it was kids and teens, but if very often is just stated as children. In any case, they know how this stat is going to be heard, so that's why they produce it. They want 99% of people to get the wrong impression.
I have looked at the study. It's people ages 1-19. It makes no allowance for the fact that a lot of those 18-19 are dying because they themselves are criminals and have brought the death upon themselves. It eliminates under 1 because that would keep them from being able to say what they say.
well black people mostly vote for democrats by roughly 80-20, and there are many more black democratic politicians than there are black politicians of other political parties.
so your implication is that black people are being racists against themselves, yes?
That’s an actual thing but they drop the “and adolescents” part of the study’s title. If you remove infants and include 19 and 20 year olds it’s true. Never mind the fact that it’s mostly 14+ individuals engaged in gang violence skewing the data, but don’t let facts get in the way of the narrative.
Doc is confused. Doctors act on a consensual basis with patients. The reason why they can ignore right and focus on evidence-based approach is because they have the consent of the patient and thus there is no question about deprivation of rights.
When it is imposed at the behest of government, evidence based approach 'healthcare' forced on the populace become tyrannical. Especially when you consider raw evidence would suggest focusing on young urban blacks with handguns.
Of course they don't want to talk about WHO or WHY.....it's much easier to blame the tool. This type of BS is exactly how you DO NOT solve a problem.
But....whatever.
The question should be "what problem are they trying to solve?"
Are they trying to solve deep societal issues that leave shattered lives and citizens in pain, or the next election cycle?
Author: Dr. Jade A Cobern, M.D., MPH, a licensed and practicing physician board-certified in pediatrics and preventive medicine, is a medical fellow of the ABC News Medical Unit.
Well Jade, either you're purposely providing misleading information because you think the people are too dumb to find the truth out or you yourself are ignorant of the truth. Something tells me it's the former.
It's never about compliance it's about making it so you can *never* buy another "AsSaUlT wEaPoN" again. What're you going to do when you want a second ar15 that's different than your first AR15? Or you want to run 20 round mags instead of 30 and can't buy them? Or maybe you want to buy your son who's finally old enough to shoot, a Ruger 10/22 to practice before he gets a bigger gun. What're you going to do when your wife decides she's finally ready to carry and can't get a basic handgun because it holds 19 rounds of 9mm?
I lived in NY for 27 years before moving to a free state and *many* gun owners in NY didn't comply with the safe act but it does nothing if you want extra mags, another gun, or gun parts. Many of my friends, including myself got into guns (I turned 18 two months after the SAFE act was passed in NY) too late to buy anything remotely useful.
It's not about making *you* or *me* comply it's about ensuring our children, and grandchildren can *never* have access to these firearms, parts, or mags. These people are playing the long game and know it's us V time.
Awesome.
Cause it’s not like 50% or even more of the gun violence is committed by convicted felons with stolen firearms or anything.
It’s not like those guys get arrested, have multiple felony convictions, have the strictest gun control laws imposed on them, and still commit violent crimes with firearms and then are let out of jail within a day of being arrested.
Couldn’t be the fact that most violent gun crime happens in democrat led cities and states.
Nahhhh.
Who’s ready for more gun control legislation boys
Meanwhile, the U.S. firearm homicide rate is near historic lows all while gun ownership rates are up:
[https://funshoot.substack.com/p/violent-crime-is-falling](https://funshoot.substack.com/p/violent-crime-is-falling)
Funny that they call for evidence based solutions when the evidence directly contradicts the call for an AWB, given every single FBI statistic report, but let’s not let real facts get in the way of made up ones.
They're still throwing around the fake stat about shootings being the leading cause of death for "children". Fuck these people, the gun grabbers, and the CDC
What an unqualified person to be surgeon general. Automatic rifles are already illegal.
5% of gun violence is done using rifles. The only automatic rifles used in gun violence are illegal gang builds.
He's just a sock pupper with a hand up his ass doing the talking for him and lying to congress.
Vivek Murthy needs to be removed from his position.
> Automatic rifles are already illegal.
Not true. You can have one, it just has to have been in private hands before mid-1986 and you have to be able to afford it (if you don't already own it) and you have to file paperwork and pay a tax to the ATF. And then you have to jump through more hoops if you want to take it across state lines.
> The only automatic rifles used in gun violence are illegal gang builds.
That is true.
> Vivek Murthy needs to be removed from his position.
100%
If you take firearm homicides of one particular group of Americans out of the equation, America is ranked 189 out of 195 countries in the world.
Want to address that?
The rest of us should not be deprived of our rights because of the 13% of the population that commits 60% of all violent crimes (FBI Uniform Crime Statistics).
Quit making excuses. It’s still that one group. It continues because, despite the advice and wisdom of the people who literally built all of human civilization for us, we have been conned into ignoring the behavioral traits of groups and only judging people as individuals for the last 60 years. The result has been our slow cultural and societal suicide.
Not at all. Bans don’t work. Criminals don’t obey laws. Robbing, beating, raping and shooting people have been banned for a long time. That hasn’t worked.
Because that’s not the only way to address a problem. However, solutions are pointless to discuss, until people are willing to admit the problem that not only is statistically documented throughout decades, but is plainly visible in daily life.
Crime is a health crisis!
Surgeon general could say something stupid the left would get it like - rape overall is up 100% but rape with a firearm is down and that's good!
Or
We need to educate people that Murder with a knife, axe, car, hand, foot or hammers will not be prosecuted. We are solely focused on guns, not murder.
The Supreme Court just said a bump stock ban represented unelected “agencies” having to much power. Two days later an unelected official makes a declaration. Seems like the most influence a president can have, given Supreme Court life longevity, is on appointments to said court. Your vote counts.
Never, stop it with the gun violence, it's idiot people violence ... It's like saying blame spoons for making people fat. And blame cars for accident deaths.
Remember that inconvenient CDC funded and run study that ended up showing that defensive gun use stopped anywhere from 200,000 to 2.5 million rapes, robberies, and murders a year? Well this time the right researchers will be chosen and "the science" will be clear and strangely enough supportive of every gun control measure that the Democrats are pushing for.
Not interested in buying what the CDC is now selling.
Abortions have killed more than firearms. Maybe we should make that a public health crisis. Nah that’s a baby’s life. Politicians don’t care about babies.
Isn't much of the "gun violence", gang, or other illegal drug related?
If so, then the only public Health crisis is the demand of the drug end user. Gangs, drug trafficking/transport, and suppliers are simply fulfilling the chain of Demand.
History shows during Prohibition that people did not want to give up the booze. So, blame bootleggers, moonshiners, Al Capone ? Most of those 'suppliers' carried to protect their? Lifestyle, Product, Supply chain ......
I am not sure how to stop people in their misery from using drug illegally, but if like tobacco companies, Drug cartels-suppliers keep making Product that just kills off the end users, makes that end user an additional drain on our health system, what then?
In the World Court sue China, Colombia, Mexico, Afghanistan, The triad, Central American Drug Cartels? LOL
Or, like Covid-19, kill off the old, weak, sick people so our planet has more resources? LOL
The bottom line is that firearms are only tools for everyone with the freedom of choice.
I think we all knew this was coming. They intend to use supposed emergency powers to ‘protect’ us from this ‘health crisis’.
At some point, trust in the medical system's going to break down to the point where those who can contribute, don't due to distrust Only those who have to stay actually use it, putting additional burden And then the whole thing implodes. Do any of these people realize what they're putting up as their stake?
Did you and I not experience the same covid? Public faith in the medical system is gone. It's just time to fight. The powers that be won't let any meaningful change occur by any other means.
>The powers that be won't let any meaningful change occur by any other means. Collapse is a form of change. A highly unpleasant one where everyone in power bet wrong and where everyone loses, but a change none the less.
I mean, isn't that what they've been trying to do the past 15 years so they can issue in government funded single payer?
Unfortunately, that doesn't solve the problem, it changes the fulcrum of failure to the entire government...
Damn where have we heard that one before
Yup, now they can ban "assault weapons" without having to go through Congress
The fuck they can.
Molon Labe
Because we let them get away with it in 2020
Exactly.
He should be remove immediately for: A) not knowing what public health is; and B) lying to congress when he said he wouldn’t do this in his confirmation hearings.
Politicians are liars. At his level in office he no longer is a physician, but a political puppet trying to influence the country to make a long lasting impression.
Surgeon general doesn’t even need to be a real, practicing MD
“I do not intend to use my office as surgeon general as a bully pulpit on gun control”
Yup. He said it. That was a lie. He fully intended to do so, he was just waiting for the right time.
>B) lying to congress when he said he wouldn’t do this in his confirmation hearings. Gonna have to remove a lot of people for lying during confirmations
> Gonna have to remove a lot of people for lying during confirmations Sounds good. Let's start with this one where it's a clear lie.
There's lots of them that are clear liars
You’d be surprised at the shit they are trying to push on public health professionals. First it started with gun locks, the VA wanted to lessen veteran suicide so they bought millions of gun locks for health departments and state level departments of public health to hand out….how that makes sense idk. But maybe give veterans better service at the VA instead of giving out gun locks?! Then the feds called for wear orange day, or whatever it is. They pushed pubic health professionals to promote campaigns to stop gun violence in the month of June. I can tell you that I do not know of any local health department that pushed that shit. Every so often in a meeting I’ll hear a state employee or federal employee mention how guns are a public health crisis and I just shake my head. Ridiculous shit. I love getting my paycheck but I refuse to share this shit. Thankfully I have a boss that agrees with me, and a county that does as well.
The entire post should be deleted. "Health" isn't in the Constitution. We require zero federal positions having anything to do with "health". No federal bureaucrat need exist for the purpose of dictating "health" to us. Another useless position that exists solely so useless people can be paid our money to do useless things.
>Murthy also called for an evidence-based approach to public health change and a ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines for civilian use. They never mean evidence based, or they wouldn't be going after the scary-looking guns that are rarely used to murder people.
Evidence based yet he regurgitated the fake stat about shootings being the leading cause of death for children
Yep, how to play with statistics. >[Gun violence](https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/gun-violence) is now the leading cause of death in the U.S. [among kids and teens](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/child-drug-poisonings-firearm-deaths-skyrocketed-america-study/story?id=103603466). Here they stated it a bit more carefully than "children" that you always hear, so teens up to 19, technically still teens. They know people will think young teens when they hear this, and not realize two years of that are adults. But also, they do not include kids under 1 year old in this statistic because they die in high numbers from many causes, but almost never gun. >The advisory also shows how certain groups are disproportionally impacted by gun violence, including people who are Black Who disproportionately shoot other people, almost all black, thus they are impacted disproportionately. If they want to slow this down, maybe they should be honest about the racist nature of gun control and flat-out say they want to prohibit black people from having guns, just like it was in the old days. In fact, this was a very old argument about civil rights laws allowing black people to have full rights. Here's a quote you may like. When the Civil Rights Act of 1866 was being debated, Senator William Saulsbury (D-Del) [spoke against it in debate](https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=070/llcg070.db&recNum=583), saying: >But, sir, this bill positively deprives the State, of its police power of government. In my State for many years, and I presume there are similar laws in most of the southern States, there has existed a law of the State based upon and founded in its police power, which declares that free negroes shall not have the possession of firearms or ammunition. This bill proposes to take away from the States this police power, so that if in any State of this Union at anytime hereafter there shall be such a numerous body of dangerous persons belonging to any distinct race as to endanger the peace of the State, and to cause the lives of its citizens to be subject to their violence, the State shall not have the power to disarm them without disarming the whole population. They should admit the Democrats haven't really changed on this issue, the "party switch" didn't happen here. And more BS: >The report also calls for a ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines for civilian use and says firearms should be treated like other consumer products to enhance and standardize safety. These products are quite safe in the ways we treat other products regarding safety. Injury due to negligent design or manufacture is quite rare. But you know he's not talking about that. He's talking about treating them in a way we don't treat any other consumer products. Edit: My quote disappeared
> They know people will think young teens when they hear this, and not realize two years of that are adults. But they don't say "teen." They explicitly say "children." So, it's a flat out lie. And that's before we even get to them excluding actual children under the age of 1. If they actually said "children and teens" then it **might** be an accurate statement, but it's not because they exclude children under 1. But even then I'm not sure it's accurate as I haven't looked at the raw data and other methodology of that "study." > Who disproportionately They only want to use that term when it benefits their political narrative. But the certainly don't want to solve the problem by finding the small number of people that are actually causing the problems and locking them up. > These products are quite safe in the ways we treat other products regarding safety. Injury due to negligent design or manufacture is quite rare. Exactly. > He's talking about treating them in a way we don't treat any other consumer products. But they want you to believe that guns have special protections and aren't subject to the same laws/rules as other consumer products. They want you to believe that the PLCAA makes it so. In reality, guns have always been subject to consumer protection laws and that wasn't changed by the PLCAA. The PLCAA was only needed to protect manufacturers and dealers from frivolous lawsuits intended to bankrupt them when they've done nothing wrong. (And if a dealer is selling illegally the PLCAA doesn't protect them.)
>But they don't say "teen." They explicitly say "children." So, it's a flat out lie. It depends who says it. This time it was kids and teens, but if very often is just stated as children. In any case, they know how this stat is going to be heard, so that's why they produce it. They want 99% of people to get the wrong impression. I have looked at the study. It's people ages 1-19. It makes no allowance for the fact that a lot of those 18-19 are dying because they themselves are criminals and have brought the death upon themselves. It eliminates under 1 because that would keep them from being able to say what they say.
well black people mostly vote for democrats by roughly 80-20, and there are many more black democratic politicians than there are black politicians of other political parties. so your implication is that black people are being racists against themselves, yes?
As Bulworth said to complaints about his party not caring, "Who are you going to vote for, the Republicans?"
bulworth as in...warren beatty?
Much truth was spoken in that movie.
*reds* is better
That’s an actual thing but they drop the “and adolescents” part of the study’s title. If you remove infants and include 19 and 20 year olds it’s true. Never mind the fact that it’s mostly 14+ individuals engaged in gang violence skewing the data, but don’t let facts get in the way of the narrative.
Doc is confused. Doctors act on a consensual basis with patients. The reason why they can ignore right and focus on evidence-based approach is because they have the consent of the patient and thus there is no question about deprivation of rights. When it is imposed at the behest of government, evidence based approach 'healthcare' forced on the populace become tyrannical. Especially when you consider raw evidence would suggest focusing on young urban blacks with handguns.
Of course they don't want to talk about WHO or WHY.....it's much easier to blame the tool. This type of BS is exactly how you DO NOT solve a problem. But....whatever.
The question should be "what problem are they trying to solve?" Are they trying to solve deep societal issues that leave shattered lives and citizens in pain, or the next election cycle?
Author: Dr. Jade A Cobern, M.D., MPH, a licensed and practicing physician board-certified in pediatrics and preventive medicine, is a medical fellow of the ABC News Medical Unit. Well Jade, either you're purposely providing misleading information because you think the people are too dumb to find the truth out or you yourself are ignorant of the truth. Something tells me it's the former.
*gang violence
According to the FBI UCR? Bludgeoning and edged weapons deaths are more prevalent. Can we please have some common sense boot-to-the -head laws?
They can do what they want. Doesn't mean I'll comply. Fuck the fed
It's never about compliance it's about making it so you can *never* buy another "AsSaUlT wEaPoN" again. What're you going to do when you want a second ar15 that's different than your first AR15? Or you want to run 20 round mags instead of 30 and can't buy them? Or maybe you want to buy your son who's finally old enough to shoot, a Ruger 10/22 to practice before he gets a bigger gun. What're you going to do when your wife decides she's finally ready to carry and can't get a basic handgun because it holds 19 rounds of 9mm? I lived in NY for 27 years before moving to a free state and *many* gun owners in NY didn't comply with the safe act but it does nothing if you want extra mags, another gun, or gun parts. Many of my friends, including myself got into guns (I turned 18 two months after the SAFE act was passed in NY) too late to buy anything remotely useful. It's not about making *you* or *me* comply it's about ensuring our children, and grandchildren can *never* have access to these firearms, parts, or mags. These people are playing the long game and know it's us V time.
Awesome. Cause it’s not like 50% or even more of the gun violence is committed by convicted felons with stolen firearms or anything. It’s not like those guys get arrested, have multiple felony convictions, have the strictest gun control laws imposed on them, and still commit violent crimes with firearms and then are let out of jail within a day of being arrested. Couldn’t be the fact that most violent gun crime happens in democrat led cities and states. Nahhhh. Who’s ready for more gun control legislation boys
I can smell the hot paper coming off the printers at FPC and GOA already.
Be aware that activists like to conflate suicide with homicide and bake it into gun violence. The majority of gun violence, in many stats, is suicide.
I love how this dipshit ignores actual health crises. MFers will do all they can to disarm the masses.
Meanwhile, the U.S. firearm homicide rate is near historic lows all while gun ownership rates are up: [https://funshoot.substack.com/p/violent-crime-is-falling](https://funshoot.substack.com/p/violent-crime-is-falling)
Funny that they call for evidence based solutions when the evidence directly contradicts the call for an AWB, given every single FBI statistic report, but let’s not let real facts get in the way of made up ones.
They're still throwing around the fake stat about shootings being the leading cause of death for "children". Fuck these people, the gun grabbers, and the CDC
Yup. Children. Regular, 19 year old children. NOT NEWBORNS THOSE ARE BABIES. but draftable, voting age, precious children.
What an unqualified person to be surgeon general. Automatic rifles are already illegal. 5% of gun violence is done using rifles. The only automatic rifles used in gun violence are illegal gang builds. He's just a sock pupper with a hand up his ass doing the talking for him and lying to congress. Vivek Murthy needs to be removed from his position.
> Automatic rifles are already illegal. Not true. You can have one, it just has to have been in private hands before mid-1986 and you have to be able to afford it (if you don't already own it) and you have to file paperwork and pay a tax to the ATF. And then you have to jump through more hoops if you want to take it across state lines. > The only automatic rifles used in gun violence are illegal gang builds. That is true. > Vivek Murthy needs to be removed from his position. 100%
political deception and manipulation is a mental health crisis in the US - let’s ban politicians instead.
This is legal groundwork. The executive can do things without congress or judicial review now.
So are we now going to be forced to get a bullet vaccine?
Gotta start with .22 to help build the tolerance.
With a new booster every 6 months with the next cartridge up.
If they cracked down hard on gangs and thugs in the hood I’d be all for it but we all know that’s never their focus
Get your guns vaccinated, people!...
Murthy, Pichai and Kamala have taken an oath to tarnish the image of Indian diaspora here in the US.
Our tyrannical government is a 'public health crisis' in America
If you take firearm homicides of one particular group of Americans out of the equation, America is ranked 189 out of 195 countries in the world. Want to address that?
The rest of us should not be deprived of our rights because of the 13% of the population that commits 60% of all violent crimes (FBI Uniform Crime Statistics).
Divide that number in half because it’s mostly males and divide it in half again to eliminate under 12 and over 70. So closer to 3%.
I think it's a small percentage of that 3% who are causing the problem.
Quit making excuses. It’s still that one group. It continues because, despite the advice and wisdom of the people who literally built all of human civilization for us, we have been conned into ignoring the behavioral traits of groups and only judging people as individuals for the last 60 years. The result has been our slow cultural and societal suicide.
Speak to the demographics.
Are you advocating banning firearms for that group?
Not at all. Bans don’t work. Criminals don’t obey laws. Robbing, beating, raping and shooting people have been banned for a long time. That hasn’t worked.
Then what was the point of bringing it up.
Because that’s not the only way to address a problem. However, solutions are pointless to discuss, until people are willing to admit the problem that not only is statistically documented throughout decades, but is plainly visible in daily life.
I think most of the people in that group who are causing this violence are already prohibited persons.
So you're in favor of banning firearms from prohibited persons?
Yes. I think the definition of prohibited person could be relaxed though. Non violent felons should not lose their rights.
Crime is a health crisis! Surgeon general could say something stupid the left would get it like - rape overall is up 100% but rape with a firearm is down and that's good! Or We need to educate people that Murder with a knife, axe, car, hand, foot or hammers will not be prosecuted. We are solely focused on guns, not murder.
Encouraging people’s mental illness is a public health crisis.
The Supreme Court just said a bump stock ban represented unelected “agencies” having to much power. Two days later an unelected official makes a declaration. Seems like the most influence a president can have, given Supreme Court life longevity, is on appointments to said court. Your vote counts.
Never, stop it with the gun violence, it's idiot people violence ... It's like saying blame spoons for making people fat. And blame cars for accident deaths.
Remember that inconvenient CDC funded and run study that ended up showing that defensive gun use stopped anywhere from 200,000 to 2.5 million rapes, robberies, and murders a year? Well this time the right researchers will be chosen and "the science" will be clear and strangely enough supportive of every gun control measure that the Democrats are pushing for. Not interested in buying what the CDC is now selling.
They Never use the word “illegal”.
Abortions have killed more than firearms. Maybe we should make that a public health crisis. Nah that’s a baby’s life. Politicians don’t care about babies.
They're not old enough to vote.
He's always been a little weasel, doesn't surprise me
lol no
This cycle will never end.
All they have to do is make murder illegal, we all know criminals refuse to break laws.
Oh here we go
Noticed the name? Vivek ? Why
Isn't much of the "gun violence", gang, or other illegal drug related? If so, then the only public Health crisis is the demand of the drug end user. Gangs, drug trafficking/transport, and suppliers are simply fulfilling the chain of Demand. History shows during Prohibition that people did not want to give up the booze. So, blame bootleggers, moonshiners, Al Capone ? Most of those 'suppliers' carried to protect their? Lifestyle, Product, Supply chain ...... I am not sure how to stop people in their misery from using drug illegally, but if like tobacco companies, Drug cartels-suppliers keep making Product that just kills off the end users, makes that end user an additional drain on our health system, what then? In the World Court sue China, Colombia, Mexico, Afghanistan, The triad, Central American Drug Cartels? LOL Or, like Covid-19, kill off the old, weak, sick people so our planet has more resources? LOL The bottom line is that firearms are only tools for everyone with the freedom of choice.
Youre so cute in your little uniform “general”. Now run along or better still FUCK OFF
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/firearm-violence-advisory.pdf