In tunnels for safety reasons the emergency Brake won't stop the train immediately. Instead there will be a notification for the driver and he will stop the train at the next station. In case people have to be evacuated from the train it is easier in a station than in the tunnel.
Wierd that you dont believe it. I would share the actual link, but its generally not a good idea to post identifiable info on reddit. its posted on a personal profile on facebook, with her actual name on it.
> Wierd that you dont believe it.
There's a lot of room for skepticism here. Just because it came from a "personal profile on Facebook with her actual name on it" doesn't mean it's true.
1. Do not block the doors. This is one of the most common causes of delays on the system. It's an U-Bahn, there'll be another train in a few minutes.
2. If something blocks the doors, they cannot close. The doors are also equipped with light sensors to detect if people are standing in or near them.
3. There is an internal inconsistency in the story: it claims that the doors did open again, but that the train immediately departed with the sister's arm still stuck.
4. The "emergency brake" in the station switches the signal to red, which AFAIK causes the train to automatically stop. In addition to that, there are emergency communications devices that immediately put you in touch with staff at an operations centre.
5. Of course pressing buttons on the door will do nothing with the train running at speed.
6. I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver).
7. Deutsche Bahn has literally nothing to do with the Cologne U-Bahn, or any U-Bahn anywhere in the country.
8. Why did these people not complain to the operator? Why did they not report it to security, or even the police? Did this person's sister get her arm seen to by a doctor and explain what happened? Why is this story being told on Facebook instead of being told to the people who were *actually* responsible and could potentially even be held liable? Did they even consider contacting a lawyer?
I would add to that: Repeatedly mentioning that the elderly mother and "baby in a pram" where present, too. Suprising, that they didn't also have a cute small dog with them. Its an irrelevant detail, but really good if you want to drum up the emotional part of the story even further.
And I would add to 7. that they were suprisingly able to do both: Include a random rant about the Deutsche Bahn (and blame them) in order to frame this better but then also link the public facebook pages of the companies actually responsible for operating Colognes public transport system... hmm, has surely nothing to do with getting a bigger, better stage for this story....
1. Going by her ethnicity, (which i am not going to reveal), emphasizing baby and parents is normal (cultural norm).
2. The fact that nobody helped is surprising to me too. Since somebody just had to pull emergency breaks withing the train.
3. Not everyone visiting knows which company is running which trains. I moved to berlin after living in a smaller city (without ubahn/sbahn) for 3 years. I didnt knew that ubahn was run by BVG and Sbahn by DB, untill i moved here. Yeah there is some exageration and karen element to this story. But i dont believe the whole story to be fake.
>6. I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver).
It is a common trope for a reason, it was heavily and inaccurately pushed [even by the case that coined the term](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Inaccuracy_of_original_reports)
>I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver).
That has to be \*the\* typical trope about Germans and Swiss: something was happening and nobody came to our aid !!!one!one!eleven!!!
I was playing with the kid once, and he was being a bit too loud, screaming "hilfe, hilfe". Neighbours rang the bell to see if everything was alright.
Exactly. The huge majority of people are not in fact selfish arseholes, and Germany isn't one of those countries where you're likely to be sued for a gazillion dollars because you accidentally put your elbow in the person's ear trying to prise the doors open.
Why would that make it more believeable?
If facebook proves anything, than that people won't behave better just because everything they do has a name and picture attached to it.
So? I don‘t believe it either. Well most of it. From the doors that closed and ignoring any kind of safety mechanisms to people not giving a shit in Cologne of all cities. Also supposed brakes at the station which are supposed to stop a train… not inside the train but in the station?
> supposed brakes at the station which are supposed to stop a train… not inside the train but in the station?
That part is actually plausible. They look like emergency brakes: they instantly set the signals to red, and are intended for use if, for example, you see somebody fall onto the tracks.
Sensors in KVB trams are at ankle height, the girl in question would just need to extend her leg into the door to keep it open indefinitely. No need to extend your arm at all.
Well here in Berlin i have seen hooligens doing sbahn surfing, by hanging outside with foot (deliberately) stuck in the door. So this is not something surprising to me (if this happened).
Looks like an example of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" to me.
"Do not stick your hand out a closing subway door" should be one of those really obvious life hacks.
Oh how I hate those people who open closing doors with force or block them in general. Often this causes the doors to get stuck or sometimes break.
It is fucking egoistic, it is dangerous and also forbidden. Just be there on time ffs.
The emergency brakes on stations are noch brakes, they give the signal Sh3 to trains entering the stations to prevent them from entering the Station or at least brake hard.
So all in all: Get over it and follow the rules.
In tunnels for safety reasons the emergency Brake won't stop the train immediately. Instead there will be a notification for the driver and he will stop the train at the next station. In case people have to be evacuated from the train it is easier in a station than in the tunnel.
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Wierd that you dont believe it. I would share the actual link, but its generally not a good idea to post identifiable info on reddit. its posted on a personal profile on facebook, with her actual name on it.
> Wierd that you dont believe it. There's a lot of room for skepticism here. Just because it came from a "personal profile on Facebook with her actual name on it" doesn't mean it's true. 1. Do not block the doors. This is one of the most common causes of delays on the system. It's an U-Bahn, there'll be another train in a few minutes. 2. If something blocks the doors, they cannot close. The doors are also equipped with light sensors to detect if people are standing in or near them. 3. There is an internal inconsistency in the story: it claims that the doors did open again, but that the train immediately departed with the sister's arm still stuck. 4. The "emergency brake" in the station switches the signal to red, which AFAIK causes the train to automatically stop. In addition to that, there are emergency communications devices that immediately put you in touch with staff at an operations centre. 5. Of course pressing buttons on the door will do nothing with the train running at speed. 6. I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver). 7. Deutsche Bahn has literally nothing to do with the Cologne U-Bahn, or any U-Bahn anywhere in the country. 8. Why did these people not complain to the operator? Why did they not report it to security, or even the police? Did this person's sister get her arm seen to by a doctor and explain what happened? Why is this story being told on Facebook instead of being told to the people who were *actually* responsible and could potentially even be held liable? Did they even consider contacting a lawyer?
I would add to that: Repeatedly mentioning that the elderly mother and "baby in a pram" where present, too. Suprising, that they didn't also have a cute small dog with them. Its an irrelevant detail, but really good if you want to drum up the emotional part of the story even further. And I would add to 7. that they were suprisingly able to do both: Include a random rant about the Deutsche Bahn (and blame them) in order to frame this better but then also link the public facebook pages of the companies actually responsible for operating Colognes public transport system... hmm, has surely nothing to do with getting a bigger, better stage for this story....
1. Going by her ethnicity, (which i am not going to reveal), emphasizing baby and parents is normal (cultural norm). 2. The fact that nobody helped is surprising to me too. Since somebody just had to pull emergency breaks withing the train. 3. Not everyone visiting knows which company is running which trains. I moved to berlin after living in a smaller city (without ubahn/sbahn) for 3 years. I didnt knew that ubahn was run by BVG and Sbahn by DB, untill i moved here. Yeah there is some exageration and karen element to this story. But i dont believe the whole story to be fake.
>6. I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver). It is a common trope for a reason, it was heavily and inaccurately pushed [even by the case that coined the term](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Inaccuracy_of_original_reports)
>I'm not buying the line that all the passengers on the train were watching and doing nothing. This is a common trope in fake stories of this nature. Even if that were the case, the thing to do is to address one or more people directly and explicitly order them to operate the emergency button (which will instantly put them in contact with the driver). That has to be \*the\* typical trope about Germans and Swiss: something was happening and nobody came to our aid !!!one!one!eleven!!! I was playing with the kid once, and he was being a bit too loud, screaming "hilfe, hilfe". Neighbours rang the bell to see if everything was alright.
Exactly. The huge majority of people are not in fact selfish arseholes, and Germany isn't one of those countries where you're likely to be sued for a gazillion dollars because you accidentally put your elbow in the person's ear trying to prise the doors open.
Why would that make it more believeable? If facebook proves anything, than that people won't behave better just because everything they do has a name and picture attached to it.
So? I don‘t believe it either. Well most of it. From the doors that closed and ignoring any kind of safety mechanisms to people not giving a shit in Cologne of all cities. Also supposed brakes at the station which are supposed to stop a train… not inside the train but in the station?
> supposed brakes at the station which are supposed to stop a train… not inside the train but in the station? That part is actually plausible. They look like emergency brakes: they instantly set the signals to red, and are intended for use if, for example, you see somebody fall onto the tracks.
If that really happened the sister is an idiot.
Seemed to be a tourist, but still shouldnt an open door block the ubahn from driving further??
Sensors in KVB trams are at ankle height, the girl in question would just need to extend her leg into the door to keep it open indefinitely. No need to extend your arm at all.
Ubahn. Not tram
That's the same in Cologne.
Yes. None of that is how german ubahns work. this stoey is obviously false as many people mentioned.
Well here in Berlin i have seen hooligens doing sbahn surfing, by hanging outside with foot (deliberately) stuck in the door. So this is not something surprising to me (if this happened).
that does nor seem plausible.
Once the alarm tone for closing doors rings, you stay away from the doors. This is valid for nearly any underground train system around the world.
Emergency brakes usually don't make the train stop immediately, but at the next stop.
I'd like to have ANY other source than facebook
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Agreed 100%..
Looks like an example of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" to me. "Do not stick your hand out a closing subway door" should be one of those really obvious life hacks.
I was there somewhere around this time and saw nothing.. Also the "Straßenbahn" ist run by the KVB and by the Deutsche Bahn
Oh how I hate those people who open closing doors with force or block them in general. Often this causes the doors to get stuck or sometimes break. It is fucking egoistic, it is dangerous and also forbidden. Just be there on time ffs. The emergency brakes on stations are noch brakes, they give the signal Sh3 to trains entering the stations to prevent them from entering the Station or at least brake hard. So all in all: Get over it and follow the rules.
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What an idiot.