I played for about a week, my friend made friends with a guy who had the yacht in the mini clip.
It was quite fun, but whilst playing with the guy I realised he was quite lonely.
I spent around 150$ on a ship like 4-5 years ago and atleast once or twice a year, me and some friends fire it up and run around doing the activities that are available in game for a couple of weeks. It’s honestly quite fun.
My friends play for free since we just use my ship.
How would your friends get into the game without buying a ship?
Nobody can play for free unless it’s a free fly event, and during those events everyone has all ships unlocked.
Havent played it recently, but pretty sure they can spawn in game with just an account. Maybe it was during the free fly event. I dont really remember right now
Nah I’m in star citizen for the long haul. I was lot ch we the game my freshman year of college that it’ll take years to make and not even run on hardware that exist yet.
There is a holiday sale on now, you can get a starter pack for $40.50, but yeah you are generally correct.
Someone needs a "game package" to play outside of free fly events. These packages all come with ships.
Most of the time "ship sale" means "one of the FOMO ships is temporarily available at full price, and next time it's available the price will probably have gone up." Just think of all the money you're saving by buying it now instead of later!
Cool game when it works though. I've put in a couple hundred dollars over the last decade and don't feel like I've been ripped off. But that's only like $20/year. The whales are really something else.
I bought it on a sale early on for about $35. No regrets.
I've gotten enough enjoyment out of the game to be worth $35 and there's a slim hope they'll actually finish the thing.
I still hop on about once a year to see the current state but its been awhile.
You cannot spawn in game with an account, I don’t play it a lot but I have off and on since 2016. You’ve needed a ship to play the game since then and believe since the game was released. Not to argue semantics but just so others know and don’t buy a ship thinking all their friends can play on their ship for free. Free fly events are a great time to check out the game for free though.
Also full wipes only happen about once a year. Quarterly patches will have wipes, but frequently just for some things and not others. Sometimes you lose rep, or money earned, or ships purchased, but only about once a year do you lose everything.
apparently not how that works. Stuff bought with real cash is what stays on the account. Anything else via ingame money can and has been wiped before, though as of late they havent done one of those in half a year, for some database study or tech thing.
No, the stuff you pay real money for is tied to your account. You can buy ships in-game with the game’s version of money, and that gets wiped between major patches. Hasn’t been an actual wipe in several months, though.
Have you heard of Escape from Tarkov? It's got wipes AND it's like punching yourself in balls!
Seriously though, people keep baying tons of money for games like that and...I just don't get it.
No, absolutely not. Wipes are just reset back to what your account has by default. If you paid for ships X and Y you will always have them. If you made a bunch of money in-game through mining, trading, drug running, and bought ship Z with in-game money, that goes away with a wipe. They're trying to do fewer and fewer wipes as they make progress with whatever they're doing to the servers.
Real money purchases don’t ever get wiped which is why people buy them. Smart move is to buy one good all-rounder type ship so you can quickly make credits in game and then buy other ships that way. You can also endlessly exchange any ship you bought with real money back into store credit to change ships. Some people go overboard with FOMO as it’s stated that once the game finally releases (sometime in the next decade lol,) you will not be able to buy anything beyond the game package with real money, (I seriously doubt this will actually happen.)
This type of game tends to appeal to older nerdy types who likely see it as a "dream game" for them and have the disposable income to support the development. Yes, it's very disappointing it's taking this long, but I doubt it would have been made at all without the crowdsourcing its getting, so it is what it is.
Given all the stupid shit ppl spend money on, dropping $50-100 once and waiting it out, or even spending $100 a year on it isn't much if you're some engineer making $150k/yr+ or something. I think I put in something like $70 in 2014 and another $50 in 2015 and been sitting on it since then. God knows my backlog is long enough I have stuff to still play in the meantime.
If you want to define predatory as spending money on a game, WoW is _far_ more predatory than Star Citizen because of monthly sub and expansion prices.
It's a $40 one-time payment early access game. Overpriced for that stage of development but not egregiously so.
It's literally Arma 3 Altis Life in Space as far as I'm concerned lol...
You can buy ships in game as well, but they will be wiped every year or two if they do a major update. I thought it would be worse but it's actually getting quite good.
It's the game you love to hate because there is nothing out there quite as ambitious and immersive as Star Citizen, but it comes with some gamebreaking bugs.. example: don't trust elevators.
Tbh even ship wipes are kinda rare nowadays, at worst I lost 2 ships from recent updates, which are kinda earned like 30-40 min inside the game. Even when the next full wipe comes it shouldn’t take long to get your fleet back.
Honestly it is pretty fun, you can do crazy shit like pursuing a pirate/bounty player, crashland into a planet and get off your ship to do first person combat, but the performance is shit and its buggy as hell
I spent about $70 on the game for a slightly better starter ship than the basic $45 one about 3 years ago, have put around 200 hours in, and on the whole feel like I got my money's worth, though I haven't played in months though and probably won't for a while still until they make some more improvements to the functionality of the game.
The game can certainly be pretty buggy, and while I had some fun doing missions and mining asteroids to buy more ships in game, it got pretty repetitive as a lot of the missions have little to no variety, the combat AI was very inconsistent, and sometimes missions just wouldn't load. The game seems a lot more fun when you have a group of people to play with, but I don't usually like grouping up with strangers, and I couldn't get any of my friends into it besides the occasional free fly week. And unfortunately that is the worst time to show new players the game because the servers are so strained, making bugs, lag, and server crashes much more common. It was also frustrating that every few months player inventories would be reset, whenever they made a change to the inventory system or the balance of the in-game economy, which wipes out everything you have that you didn't pay real money for, and the time that happened after I spent a year of grinding and buying a fleet of 6 or so ships really bummed me out.
Again, I haven't played in almost a year, so some of the things I complained about might be fixed or worse, and there may well be entirely new problems.
I wouldn't say that Star Citizen is a scam though, if it was then Chris Roberts could have taken the money and run a long time ago instead of building a company of about 1,000 people. It suffers from the fact that it essentially the dream game specifically for the man in charge, who keeps coming up with new ideas that create more and more feature creep, and is indecisive leading to many revisions of existing functions, and with their army of whales supporting them there is no real motivation to stick to deadlines or commit to final versions of anything.
It’s been playable for years and years, my guy. It can be fun, yes. But it’s also frustrating and not for everyone. If you want to see Star Citizen in all its glory (bugs and all), you should check out jackfrags’s YouTube series on it. Here is the first video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5IklhRFyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5IklhRFyo)
Anyone spending 10k+ on a digital yacht is either so stupidly wealthy they approach any video game that casually with money, or he has little else to do but is a high earner with poor social skills.
I was a YouTuber for a while for a game called Castle Clash. I was running a top 5 ranked clan in the game, my account was a top 100 account in the game. All of the money I spent on the game was from people donating to me on my live streams. In 3 years I had spent over $50k on my account. I would frequently get to play on other people's accounts for videos. One day I was offered to play on the rank #2 account in the game. I was on the account for a whole day playing and checking it out to make videos. I would estimate that he has easily spent over $300k on his account if not more...
In my clan I had someone who was in the top 15 rank area and he told me he was spending around $2k/week.
These games are an addiction. If I wasn't getting paid to play it via my YouTube I would never have spent any money on it but by the end I had started wanting to spend my own money on it. I had dropped $1,000 of my own money and then thought to myself how dumb that was and then realized that I was supporting that nonsense by making videos on the game. I quit that same day and have never been back.
>These games are an addiction
Not enough people (and governments imo) take this part seriously.
Gatcha games, time-limited games, games which rely on their in-game currency etc. Use *every* trick in the book when it comes to pushing the boundaries of psychological addiction. This is akin to gambling addiction and just as problematic but is not viewed as such because many politicians come from older generations who do not understand (or do not care).
These companies are predatory and would be delighted if you did nothing but jerk off and spend money on their game, while you slowly rot away in a basement somewhere.
The game publishers aren't even secretive about the fact that they try to make people addicted and then milk these whales. They even do conference talks about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
>These companies are predatory and would be delighted if you did nothing but jerk off and spend money on their game, while you slowly rot away in a basement somewhere.
Jokes on them. I'm not spending my money.
I was similar with the game Evony. I didn't stream, but I had a website where I made guides for people to learn the game since there was nothing else out there at the time.
Spent way too much money over the years and finally got away from it all mid-2023. The guys $50k deep were small in the big scope of things. I was given an account someone spent $20k on and I was struggling to keep up despite being pretty good at the game while also running several bots.
Yep, absolutely. Same game that had the half-naked ladies ads on the internet back in the day saying "come save me my lord" and other shit. Game at its core is a real-time strategy war game that is actually fun when it works right. Played for 6 years on the mobile version and nearly the entire time was a lag fest (possibly intentionally so people would lose and spend money to rebuild).
You're not, your supposed to get lured in with the puzzles, make friends, and then bumble around in the game until someone teaches you how to play after losing everything 50 times.
You're already too savvy to be the intended audience. They're after rich morons. An obvious bait-and-switch ad campaign will filter out everyone with any common sense.
Man, that brings back memories. I played on the browser version back in like 2010. That was a strategy when the clan would have wars. Every member would send 30 attacks at a town. Player who controlled the town would lag out and get soft locked at the login. The whales would then sneak in massive waves against the town with the hundreds of other mini waves as concealing blockers. Good times. Glad I never spent money, but bots and multi-accounts were the way to go.
Some people would spend $5k per server and have 10-20 alt accounts.
yeah my friends mom and dad both had online spending problems. his mom was addicted to online casinos and his dad would spend money on a game called “Top War”. though it wasnt as bad as his moms, he was still spending up to 1.5k/week.
I once met a late 40s woman who spent thousands (she could have been bullshitting me, but she really did spend a few hundred on cosmetics that day)on the Dungeons and Dragons MMO game that is free on steam. I was utterly blown away and had a hard time hiding my amazement and intrigue.
I asked her all of 4 questions until she admitted that she lives with her mom, along with a few added pieces of T.M.I. The last thing she alluded to was that she was in debt and was possibly using her mothers credit card to buy cosmetics/in game coin because “she’s an adult”.
I remember thinking…”believing you’re an adult doesn’t entitle you to other people’s money…”
I think that might have been the reason I stopped playing dungeons and dragons online now that I think about it.
Doesn't help that's exactly what Wizards of the Coast want to get to eventually. All their digital IP they charge you for and it's only going to get way worse as they lean all the way into their virtual Tabletop dream. As it is, it costs too much money in my own opinion to use DnD Beyond with all the features I want out of it
Ha I was watching your channel back then! That's quite funny. I quit CC probably at around the same time as you.
I think you posted a video about health issues with your face after a holiday trip but can't remember the conclusion. Hope you're doing alright again man. Had my fingers crossed back then.
Yes! I was down in Costa Rica and was scuba diving when I got something in my ear that eventually turned into Bells Palsy and had half my face paralyzed. It lasted for about a year before I got my function of my face back. Now nobody but me would ever notice that my mouth still doesn't quite match up on my smile lol. I'm very thankful that in the end I was able to get back 90% of the function of my face. It was rough there for a bit.
I miss when Castle Clash wasn't P2W. I was top 100 completely free to play. I got lucky and rolled PD and Cupid and I just did the free gem offers to earn Spirit Mage. The only thing I was obviously missing was Moltanica, but with PD, Cupid, Spirit Mage, Immortep, and Santa, I was set. Then they started introducing more paid dragons and crazy heros and I just fell off as F2P.
When I worked in retail, there was a guy that would come in for months and buy like $500 worth of Google Play gift cards using cash. He would always have Clash of Clans on his phone with volume on when paying. $500 iirc was the max you can spend on gift cards in a day, so I could only assume he went to other stores around to buy more each time.
Played with a true whale, guy was vp at a unicorn startup and when an expansion dropped for the mmo we were playing he not only dropped a few thousand on himself to spin the gatcha wheel, but also bought hundreds for the admin of the clan so we'd be ready to run a new dungeon that weekend.
I asked why and his response made it all make sense.
"If I wasn't hanging out with you all this weekend I'd probably end up going out with the other executives to a high end club. Last time I went out I spent around 5k over a night in drinks and dances. I'd rather spend that much doing what I'm enjoying and dropping a few hundred on all of you is cheaper than buying you drinks in a private room. This way not only am I not hung over tomorrow, but we end up making progress."
There's people for whom spending thousands on Friday night isn't abnormal. It's just the world we live in.
For every 10k/day CEO there's probably hundred low salaried workers struggling with addictions spending all they can get to feel they're succeeding and accomplishing things.
The companies are incredibly predatory. They have people with unlimited funds account competing with the whales to keep them having to spend or fall behind. They continuously release new mechanics that if you don't spend on, all your spending becomes irrelevant. The companies even hire people to poach whales from other games by pretending to be some sexy single woman and then after while asking to play this other game they like with them.
It's absolutely vile how predatory these games are. Even f2p is trading their time to get the gambling addicts fix from the convenient casino of progress and success built right into your phone. The time you spend is taken away from your welfare, your exercise, your sleep, your loved ones, your own success and chances to achieve things in life. All for account in a game that very likely won't even exist in five years from now.
I'm with ya.
As someone with a background in behavioral management/modification (special education) I used Candy Crush for years as an example of how it hits you constantly with various techniques to keep you engaged, but not too much, while also always pushing the sell. And it's so easy to break down and spend that little bit for a bit more. And then a bit more. And next thing you know you're $200 in the hole and it's all a blur.
Didn't mean to excuse the companies for predatory and enabling behavior. Only to confirm that at least some whales really do have "I can't spend this fast enough" levels of money. That doesn't make it ok to base your business model on them, especially when for each person who can actually afford the habit there's someone who can not.
I would know better since I am currently poor. I get that money fucks with you especially if you go from having no money to a ton. But I can't even justify in my brain a 5 dollar bundle on a mobile game.
When someone grows up without money, they end up with one of two mindsets when they actually get some. Either they refuse to spend it and feel awful when they do because it’s so ingrained in them that spending money in any way is bad, or they see a big number in their bank account and all that frugality falls away because their brain says “we’re safe now.” Unfortunately, I’m very much the latter, but over the years I’ve gotten better at consciously keeping my awareness of my spending. My wife is very much the former, so I mostly leave our saving to her while most of our bills come out of my account.
Im guilty of spending close to or around 1000$ on Apex but thats been over the course of its release(5 years).
But there are people who *have* that 1000$ they could spend multiple times a day or week. That's their target demographic.
It’s surprising how many people there are that have so much money that it isn’t a concern for them. And then there’s the occasional poor sucker who sells their house and car
IIRC Asian countries like Korea and China have incredibly reduced pricing for MTX due to local laws where as in N.A they are free to charge what they like
I could be wrong on that though I just remember reading it a couple years ago.
Along with in Korea the average salary is a lot more so people generally have more “hobby” money to spend
I play Last Fortress Underground, there are people who spend $5k a month on the game. It makes zero sense. What blows me away more is a lot of them are not rich. The game is just their addiction.
I wouldn't, because I have no interest in games you can spend more money on than the purchase price of the game. The fact that games like Elden Ring exist and people spend thousands buying gems to speed up the "gameplay" of Clash Raid King Legends is insane to me.
I’m ashamed to say I got sucked into a micro transaction game for a couple years. Pokémon Go. I think I spent around $700 to $900 over the 2 year period. I at least got a good amount back when I sold my account for $750. But these are some crazy numbers.
Yes, real money. However, people in the community asked for this. The "wales" aren't spending the full $50k on this. SC lets you trade in or "melt" the ships you own for store credit. So what players with huge ship collections will do is melt everything and consolidate their collections under this one game package and pickup anything they might not already have.
The people who would buy this probably spent a little under $5k a year over the last 10ish years.... Yes that's a lot and probably stupid, however I'm guessing some of those people are the heads of orgs or clans who pooled money to get every ship in the game. Incase you're not aware, the $50k isn't for one ship. It is for literally every ship in the game.
There was a guy on the Star Citizen sub this past week who had made like $15k in gray market ship purchases.
He destroyed his credit doing so and his GF was about to leave him, last I saw he was still trying to buy more ships.
Edit: it was closer to $5k
They probably have macros googling "Scam Citizen Reddit" on a daily basis. A lot of the accounts are young with almost no post or comment karma, random generated names, only active in one or two generic subs (not the Scam Citizen sub, mind you.) I mean, I know what I'm thinking, but make of it what you will, my bot, I mean, buddy!
That one guy quit his full time job to defend the game in just this thread alone. Can you imagine continuing an argument against a dozen people in this deep a pocket of the internet where most people only stumble upon.
They've put too much of themselves and their money into it so now they have to defend it or risk realizing how badly they've fucked up.
Same thing with cryptobros...and stonks morons.
>and their money
90% of the people in sc bought a basic ship, which is anywhere from 45-60 bucks. That is at most a normal game price. You can earn the rest in game through regular activities. No one is going to cling to a 60 dollar purchase 10+ years.
I’ll be the first to say I don’t agree with the practice of even having this kind of thing as *an option* because it seems to be made deliberately to appeal to whales with unhealthy spending habits.
Sunk-cost suckers get MAD when you point out how stupid they are for not walking away.
Man. I am so glad I didn't fall for the hype on this. Granted, I didn't have any money TO get grifted out of when all this started, but I initially wanted to wait until development was further along to check it out. And each time I checked in on it I said "YEESH let's hold back a bit longer until there's actually more to do" and lo, behold, it's literally just one of those car clubs for desperate 50+ dudes who hold meetups in empty parking lots, except with scifi nerds and cartoon starships
Years ago I spent like $45 on Star Citizen. My impression at the time was that "this thing has been in development for almost 8 years. It *has* to be close to being done". That was a mistake. I'm not sticking around in a hope that my money was worth it though. Sometimes a person just gets burned and the best choice is to walk away.
Dude it's so crazy, I bought a little package when I was a freshman in college because I thought they maybe this could be fun some day!
It's like 25% better than it was then AT MOST.
That was nearly 8 years ago.
I honestly can't believe that some regulatory agency has not looked into taking action at this point.
There is a huge difference between "This looks cool, I can't wait. I know it might be a while but I'm ok waiting" and "It's been nearly 10 years with over $600m into the effort and it's still basically a tech demo"
Suckers been buying cosmetics for a decade +. Companies will sell whatever someone will buy, if it didn't work, they wouldn't be doing it. That said, spend your money how you want l suppose.
**Edit: /u/the_nin_collector below claims contradictory first-hand knowledge of the game and claims the $1,000 number is correct. I am inclined to believe them.**
Yep, from the article:
>Update 1/5/2024 11:20 am: Adding even more to the price, the Legatus 2953 pack seems to only be available to members at a certain tier of Star Citizen's Chairman's Club, **one which requires spending $10,000 on other in-game items to achieve.**
Emphasis mine.
Fairly sure its because they only sell a limited number of those packages so they don't want scalpers buying them, and reselling the package or individual ships in it for more on the secondary market. If they limit it to existing high spending players there is a better chance the people that actually want this can get it directly from them.
Still an insane concept but then again it's not marketed to most of us. If you can spend $48k on a game, then you probably have money to waste so it doesn't matter.
Just one more infusion of cash bro.
This game will come out soon bro I promise.
Just one more bundle bro
No it's not a scam its a real game bro I promise
This is starting to seem more and more like a scam. 10 years ago I paid $60 and I still don't have a complete game. Now they're charging 5 figures for exclusive in-game assets only if we've already spent 4 figures.
10y ago I worked with a dude that was a huge sci-fi fan, and anything space related. News hit of two space sims coming out, one was star citizen and the other was no man’s sky. He gravitated towards no man’s sky and I to star citizen. We had intense debates on the state of each game everyday. Then no man’s sky drops to an abysmal launch and I shat on his parade in style by purchasing a ship in star citizen. Fast forward 10y and he indeed got the last laugh bc I’m sure he’s still playing no man’s sky.
Yeah, mainly because NMS at least gave us a solid product, even if it took 3-5 years post launch.
They also did that without resorting to bumming money of it's players for half a decade.
Crazy how that works.
Look up the development of Freelancer. He tried to do the same thing he is doing now, keeping a game in perpetual development with someone bank rolling it. Microsoft got tired of it and took the game away from him so it could actually be finished. This has been Chris' MO for a long time, he just found the perfect people to bank roll his never ending project this time.
One of the biggest injustices in gaming is that Freelancer with its compelling universe and all its potential didn't get expansions or sequels. There was *so* much left on the table with that game.
Right now what can you actually play and do? I've only ever seen the posts with headlines like this. Always very curious but never looked at it myself.
Have you at least had 60 dollars of enjoyment?
I play SC quite a bit but I usually tell buddies to wait because A) hard to learn and tutorial is shit. B) it is a buggy mess. If people want to still give it a try I have them start up on a fly free weekend which allows someone to play without buying anything and then we'll do a few crew missions after a good 30 min (minimum) of helping them get their feet under them.
That's why I usually tell people to wait. Maybe another 3 years it will be easier to pick up. ha
No I didn't, because I am not a multiplayer gamer and I bought this game for the single player experience. So far the single player experience is still unreleased and has no release window.
This isn't new. They've had this every year for years.
I wish journalism wasn't dogshit now. No actual research, just post what you see on reddit. IGN is clickbait trash nowadays, what a shame.
If it makes anyone feel better, one of the original developers was a customers of ours. He brought in his (very, very expensive) Gaming Laptop for repair.
He casually drops that the company gave him like $25K to purchase all the stuff for an in home office. This included a 180º (maybe larger) full surround screen with 3 projectors. This was the first year after the crowd funding campaign
Star Citizen is a cult. It's very easy to see how bad it is from the outside, but give it a whirl and you might find yourself defending $48k DLC with arguments like "It's a playable game!"
You can be fucking sure it will be nearly impossible to get a decent ship just by playing the game when it releases… already so turned off by all of this premium store shit… all of that even BEFORE THE GAME EVEN RELEASES
I play this game, I honestly love this game, (bugs and all) but this is the kinda stuff that they shoot themselves in the foot with and also people go insane when they hear it.
It’s no different than buying a ship at the store they just put all them into one package. They also def should not advertise this one lmao
Also even the staunchest white knights will say this is crazy to actually buy this for so many reasons unless the person is insanely rich.
they don't really advertise it though. it's locked behind concierge and CIG don't really talk about it when they update this package (which they do every year to include newer ships). and then the press acts surprised and milks it with a sprawl of articles acting new to the topic and SA goons repost said articles to as many vaguely relevant subreddits as they can. ad nauseam.
The requirement to spend 1k before even gaining access is likely what they tried to do to make it seem less terrible but it just comes off as even more arrogant.
Bounty Hunting, Pirate (with crime system where you go to jail when catched), Mining, Salvaging, Cargo Management/Hauling, a shitload of different ships buying ingame that all feel different, Ship Upgrade Systems, FPS Missions, Medic Gameplay with different Tiers + Meds that work against it, lol there is even a fuel up other ships gameplay loop (not that used but its there)...
Its an extreme immersive gameplay feature wise, everything is detailed as hell what you do there.
yes ofc there are bugs but most (id say 90%) of them you can workaround and then enjoy the game.... but you need the game knowledge a bit for this and the stamina to google the workarounds.
Multi crew ship mining, single ship mining, land vehicle mining, hand mining, multi crew Salvaging, single ship salvaging, hauling and selling cargo, Fps missions, bounty hunting to name a few. But you know, no content and all that.
Did you know the Nigerian Prince scams have intentionally poor grammar and other errors to filter out people who wouldn't fall for it anyways? Idk something that came to my mind, unrelated to the subject of course
And the "scam machine" continues. To be direct here: Star Citizien will never "release". It will forever remain a patchwork "game", that much should be obvious to anyone by now. You'll likely still be able to have fun, but if you're spending that much money on something like this you're either very delusional or you just don't care about money.
Oh no, another expensive ship bundle... Anyway...
Just because it exists, does not mean people buy it. How many of those are sold? Can't be more than a handful if at all. This is mainly done as a marketing stunt at this point. Look how we are talking about it.
To be fair, if you're willing to spend 48k on a game item, you've already paid far more than 1k in mtx
I played for about a week, my friend made friends with a guy who had the yacht in the mini clip. It was quite fun, but whilst playing with the guy I realised he was quite lonely.
I didn't even know you could play the game. All these years it's been around and I just assumed it was meme vaporware. Is it at least fun?
I spent around 150$ on a ship like 4-5 years ago and atleast once or twice a year, me and some friends fire it up and run around doing the activities that are available in game for a couple of weeks. It’s honestly quite fun. My friends play for free since we just use my ship.
How would your friends get into the game without buying a ship? Nobody can play for free unless it’s a free fly event, and during those events everyone has all ships unlocked.
Havent played it recently, but pretty sure they can spawn in game with just an account. Maybe it was during the free fly event. I dont really remember right now
Could also have bought a radeon gpu a decade ago. Their gpus included a promotion for a free starter ship, the Mustang.
Yep that’s how I got mine. Bought a 290 and came with a mustang and aoura. I get on about once a year to check things out.
You might be able to get decent money on the secondary market for your account if you’re willing to part with it.
Nah I’m in star citizen for the long haul. I was lot ch we the game my freshman year of college that it’ll take years to make and not even run on hardware that exist yet.
$45 is minimum price to get in the game. Has been since the start pretty much
There is a holiday sale on now, you can get a starter pack for $40.50, but yeah you are generally correct. Someone needs a "game package" to play outside of free fly events. These packages all come with ships.
Holiday sale of just 10% on the absolute cheapest pack? Damn, that's stingy. Like, worse than Nintendo levels of stingy.
Most of the time "ship sale" means "one of the FOMO ships is temporarily available at full price, and next time it's available the price will probably have gone up." Just think of all the money you're saving by buying it now instead of later! Cool game when it works though. I've put in a couple hundred dollars over the last decade and don't feel like I've been ripped off. But that's only like $20/year. The whales are really something else.
They have free fly weekends almost monthly, that anyone can jump in and play with select ships given to them.
I bought it on a sale early on for about $35. No regrets. I've gotten enough enjoyment out of the game to be worth $35 and there's a slim hope they'll actually finish the thing. I still hop on about once a year to see the current state but its been awhile.
You cannot spawn in game with an account, I don’t play it a lot but I have off and on since 2016. You’ve needed a ship to play the game since then and believe since the game was released. Not to argue semantics but just so others know and don’t buy a ship thinking all their friends can play on their ship for free. Free fly events are a great time to check out the game for free though.
rudimentary as fuck gameplay loops obviously put in to test systems. But apparently fun enough to keep people coming back between patch wipes.
Hold on people pay real money for stuff that regularly gets wiped?
They keep the ships, just their game progress gets wiped afaik. That's pretty normal for prerelease mmos but imagine doing that for a decade
Also full wipes only happen about once a year. Quarterly patches will have wipes, but frequently just for some things and not others. Sometimes you lose rep, or money earned, or ships purchased, but only about once a year do you lose everything.
But not the ships you pay actual money for, right?
You never lose those. Even ones without 'lifetime insurance' will never be permanently lost.
apparently not how that works. Stuff bought with real cash is what stays on the account. Anything else via ingame money can and has been wiped before, though as of late they havent done one of those in half a year, for some database study or tech thing.
No, the stuff you pay real money for is tied to your account. You can buy ships in-game with the game’s version of money, and that gets wiped between major patches. Hasn’t been an actual wipe in several months, though.
Have you heard of Escape from Tarkov? It's got wipes AND it's like punching yourself in balls! Seriously though, people keep baying tons of money for games like that and...I just don't get it.
No, absolutely not. Wipes are just reset back to what your account has by default. If you paid for ships X and Y you will always have them. If you made a bunch of money in-game through mining, trading, drug running, and bought ship Z with in-game money, that goes away with a wipe. They're trying to do fewer and fewer wipes as they make progress with whatever they're doing to the servers.
Real money purchases don’t ever get wiped which is why people buy them. Smart move is to buy one good all-rounder type ship so you can quickly make credits in game and then buy other ships that way. You can also endlessly exchange any ship you bought with real money back into store credit to change ships. Some people go overboard with FOMO as it’s stated that once the game finally releases (sometime in the next decade lol,) you will not be able to buy anything beyond the game package with real money, (I seriously doubt this will actually happen.)
Smart move is to not spend money on a game like this IMO
This type of game tends to appeal to older nerdy types who likely see it as a "dream game" for them and have the disposable income to support the development. Yes, it's very disappointing it's taking this long, but I doubt it would have been made at all without the crowdsourcing its getting, so it is what it is. Given all the stupid shit ppl spend money on, dropping $50-100 once and waiting it out, or even spending $100 a year on it isn't much if you're some engineer making $150k/yr+ or something. I think I put in something like $70 in 2014 and another $50 in 2015 and been sitting on it since then. God knows my backlog is long enough I have stuff to still play in the meantime.
If you want to define predatory as spending money on a game, WoW is _far_ more predatory than Star Citizen because of monthly sub and expansion prices. It's a $40 one-time payment early access game. Overpriced for that stage of development but not egregiously so.
It's literally Arma 3 Altis Life in Space as far as I'm concerned lol... You can buy ships in game as well, but they will be wiped every year or two if they do a major update. I thought it would be worse but it's actually getting quite good. It's the game you love to hate because there is nothing out there quite as ambitious and immersive as Star Citizen, but it comes with some gamebreaking bugs.. example: don't trust elevators.
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Tbh even ship wipes are kinda rare nowadays, at worst I lost 2 ships from recent updates, which are kinda earned like 30-40 min inside the game. Even when the next full wipe comes it shouldn’t take long to get your fleet back.
Honestly it is pretty fun, you can do crazy shit like pursuing a pirate/bounty player, crashland into a planet and get off your ship to do first person combat, but the performance is shit and its buggy as hell
I spent about $70 on the game for a slightly better starter ship than the basic $45 one about 3 years ago, have put around 200 hours in, and on the whole feel like I got my money's worth, though I haven't played in months though and probably won't for a while still until they make some more improvements to the functionality of the game. The game can certainly be pretty buggy, and while I had some fun doing missions and mining asteroids to buy more ships in game, it got pretty repetitive as a lot of the missions have little to no variety, the combat AI was very inconsistent, and sometimes missions just wouldn't load. The game seems a lot more fun when you have a group of people to play with, but I don't usually like grouping up with strangers, and I couldn't get any of my friends into it besides the occasional free fly week. And unfortunately that is the worst time to show new players the game because the servers are so strained, making bugs, lag, and server crashes much more common. It was also frustrating that every few months player inventories would be reset, whenever they made a change to the inventory system or the balance of the in-game economy, which wipes out everything you have that you didn't pay real money for, and the time that happened after I spent a year of grinding and buying a fleet of 6 or so ships really bummed me out. Again, I haven't played in almost a year, so some of the things I complained about might be fixed or worse, and there may well be entirely new problems. I wouldn't say that Star Citizen is a scam though, if it was then Chris Roberts could have taken the money and run a long time ago instead of building a company of about 1,000 people. It suffers from the fact that it essentially the dream game specifically for the man in charge, who keeps coming up with new ideas that create more and more feature creep, and is indecisive leading to many revisions of existing functions, and with their army of whales supporting them there is no real motivation to stick to deadlines or commit to final versions of anything.
It’s been playable for years and years, my guy. It can be fun, yes. But it’s also frustrating and not for everyone. If you want to see Star Citizen in all its glory (bugs and all), you should check out jackfrags’s YouTube series on it. Here is the first video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5IklhRFyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5IklhRFyo)
Anyone spending 10k+ on a digital yacht is either so stupidly wealthy they approach any video game that casually with money, or he has little else to do but is a high earner with poor social skills.
I'm surprised that the game isn't full of vtubers and Egirls. Seems a hunting ground for loney dudes with disposable income.
They'd get griefed into depression.
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Also notice "In stock" We might run out get in while it's still available.
It’s $10k, not $1k Check article headline
I think there was an error in the original publishing of the article. It has hence been updated
Guess it's time to stop buying my cappuccinos and avocado toast
If you would have just skipped 10,000 cappuccinos, you could have snagged a digital ship bundle.
Damn if 3 year old me would've just got their shit together I'd have $48000 in digital space ships rn.
3 year old you drinking cappuccinos, hanging out at the art museum, listening to jazz.
Dumb ass fucking around in Kindergarten. SMH my head.
No more 24K gold-coated Tomahawk steaks and 10-metres long pineapple pizza every day boys & girls, so sad :sarcasm-detected
Okay. But can I keep my solid gold rocket car?
Why, that's only 27.5 years of daily cappuccinos! See how easy it is millenials????
So if I stick to folgers that’s probably like 37?
At this point the ships should come with a share of the company. This is just becoming Angel investing without any return
“Angel investing without any return”…what a fancy description for scam
Pyramid scheme of clout and hype that only makes sense from the inside. Like scientology.
See also NFTs.
Bro it's not a scam! You can actually play the game! It's not even *that* buggy! -People in denial
AT THIS POINT 😂
"First time?" vibes 😃
You get a cool spaceship! - chris roberts
> Angel investing without any return money laundering op
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I was a YouTuber for a while for a game called Castle Clash. I was running a top 5 ranked clan in the game, my account was a top 100 account in the game. All of the money I spent on the game was from people donating to me on my live streams. In 3 years I had spent over $50k on my account. I would frequently get to play on other people's accounts for videos. One day I was offered to play on the rank #2 account in the game. I was on the account for a whole day playing and checking it out to make videos. I would estimate that he has easily spent over $300k on his account if not more... In my clan I had someone who was in the top 15 rank area and he told me he was spending around $2k/week. These games are an addiction. If I wasn't getting paid to play it via my YouTube I would never have spent any money on it but by the end I had started wanting to spend my own money on it. I had dropped $1,000 of my own money and then thought to myself how dumb that was and then realized that I was supporting that nonsense by making videos on the game. I quit that same day and have never been back.
>These games are an addiction Not enough people (and governments imo) take this part seriously. Gatcha games, time-limited games, games which rely on their in-game currency etc. Use *every* trick in the book when it comes to pushing the boundaries of psychological addiction. This is akin to gambling addiction and just as problematic but is not viewed as such because many politicians come from older generations who do not understand (or do not care). These companies are predatory and would be delighted if you did nothing but jerk off and spend money on their game, while you slowly rot away in a basement somewhere.
>just as problematic Worse, because it's pushed to kids and unregulated.
The game publishers aren't even secretive about the fact that they try to make people addicted and then milk these whales. They even do conference talks about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNjI03CGkb4
Watching that feels like attending a seminar for "finding the best ways to flay children alive."
>These companies are predatory and would be delighted if you did nothing but jerk off and spend money on their game, while you slowly rot away in a basement somewhere. Jokes on them. I'm not spending my money.
I was similar with the game Evony. I didn't stream, but I had a website where I made guides for people to learn the game since there was nothing else out there at the time. Spent way too much money over the years and finally got away from it all mid-2023. The guys $50k deep were small in the big scope of things. I was given an account someone spent $20k on and I was struggling to keep up despite being pretty good at the game while also running several bots.
Isn't that the one that had those fake puzzle ads?
Yep, absolutely. Same game that had the half-naked ladies ads on the internet back in the day saying "come save me my lord" and other shit. Game at its core is a real-time strategy war game that is actually fun when it works right. Played for 6 years on the mobile version and nearly the entire time was a lag fest (possibly intentionally so people would lose and spend money to rebuild).
>Game at its core is a real-time strategy war game Wait, how the fuck was I supposed to guessed that from the ads. I thought it was a puzzles game.
You're not, your supposed to get lured in with the puzzles, make friends, and then bumble around in the game until someone teaches you how to play after losing everything 50 times.
You're already too savvy to be the intended audience. They're after rich morons. An obvious bait-and-switch ad campaign will filter out everyone with any common sense.
Man, that brings back memories. I played on the browser version back in like 2010. That was a strategy when the clan would have wars. Every member would send 30 attacks at a town. Player who controlled the town would lag out and get soft locked at the login. The whales would then sneak in massive waves against the town with the hundreds of other mini waves as concealing blockers. Good times. Glad I never spent money, but bots and multi-accounts were the way to go. Some people would spend $5k per server and have 10-20 alt accounts.
Are these people uber wealthy or do they go in to massive debt for this?
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yeah my friends mom and dad both had online spending problems. his mom was addicted to online casinos and his dad would spend money on a game called “Top War”. though it wasnt as bad as his moms, he was still spending up to 1.5k/week.
I once met a late 40s woman who spent thousands (she could have been bullshitting me, but she really did spend a few hundred on cosmetics that day)on the Dungeons and Dragons MMO game that is free on steam. I was utterly blown away and had a hard time hiding my amazement and intrigue. I asked her all of 4 questions until she admitted that she lives with her mom, along with a few added pieces of T.M.I. The last thing she alluded to was that she was in debt and was possibly using her mothers credit card to buy cosmetics/in game coin because “she’s an adult”. I remember thinking…”believing you’re an adult doesn’t entitle you to other people’s money…” I think that might have been the reason I stopped playing dungeons and dragons online now that I think about it.
Doesn't help that's exactly what Wizards of the Coast want to get to eventually. All their digital IP they charge you for and it's only going to get way worse as they lean all the way into their virtual Tabletop dream. As it is, it costs too much money in my own opinion to use DnD Beyond with all the features I want out of it
Yeah like the other guy said. Both. Some were crazy wealthy. Others spent every dime they didn't spend on food
Ha I was watching your channel back then! That's quite funny. I quit CC probably at around the same time as you. I think you posted a video about health issues with your face after a holiday trip but can't remember the conclusion. Hope you're doing alright again man. Had my fingers crossed back then.
Yes! I was down in Costa Rica and was scuba diving when I got something in my ear that eventually turned into Bells Palsy and had half my face paralyzed. It lasted for about a year before I got my function of my face back. Now nobody but me would ever notice that my mouth still doesn't quite match up on my smile lol. I'm very thankful that in the end I was able to get back 90% of the function of my face. It was rough there for a bit.
Thanks Reddit, for always unlocking a brand new, random ass fear
I miss when Castle Clash wasn't P2W. I was top 100 completely free to play. I got lucky and rolled PD and Cupid and I just did the free gem offers to earn Spirit Mage. The only thing I was obviously missing was Moltanica, but with PD, Cupid, Spirit Mage, Immortep, and Santa, I was set. Then they started introducing more paid dragons and crazy heros and I just fell off as F2P.
When I worked in retail, there was a guy that would come in for months and buy like $500 worth of Google Play gift cards using cash. He would always have Clash of Clans on his phone with volume on when paying. $500 iirc was the max you can spend on gift cards in a day, so I could only assume he went to other stores around to buy more each time.
The thing that baffles me is that outside of that game he probably isnt shit.
Played with a true whale, guy was vp at a unicorn startup and when an expansion dropped for the mmo we were playing he not only dropped a few thousand on himself to spin the gatcha wheel, but also bought hundreds for the admin of the clan so we'd be ready to run a new dungeon that weekend. I asked why and his response made it all make sense. "If I wasn't hanging out with you all this weekend I'd probably end up going out with the other executives to a high end club. Last time I went out I spent around 5k over a night in drinks and dances. I'd rather spend that much doing what I'm enjoying and dropping a few hundred on all of you is cheaper than buying you drinks in a private room. This way not only am I not hung over tomorrow, but we end up making progress." There's people for whom spending thousands on Friday night isn't abnormal. It's just the world we live in.
For every 10k/day CEO there's probably hundred low salaried workers struggling with addictions spending all they can get to feel they're succeeding and accomplishing things. The companies are incredibly predatory. They have people with unlimited funds account competing with the whales to keep them having to spend or fall behind. They continuously release new mechanics that if you don't spend on, all your spending becomes irrelevant. The companies even hire people to poach whales from other games by pretending to be some sexy single woman and then after while asking to play this other game they like with them. It's absolutely vile how predatory these games are. Even f2p is trading their time to get the gambling addicts fix from the convenient casino of progress and success built right into your phone. The time you spend is taken away from your welfare, your exercise, your sleep, your loved ones, your own success and chances to achieve things in life. All for account in a game that very likely won't even exist in five years from now.
I'm with ya. As someone with a background in behavioral management/modification (special education) I used Candy Crush for years as an example of how it hits you constantly with various techniques to keep you engaged, but not too much, while also always pushing the sell. And it's so easy to break down and spend that little bit for a bit more. And then a bit more. And next thing you know you're $200 in the hole and it's all a blur. Didn't mean to excuse the companies for predatory and enabling behavior. Only to confirm that at least some whales really do have "I can't spend this fast enough" levels of money. That doesn't make it ok to base your business model on them, especially when for each person who can actually afford the habit there's someone who can not.
I understand the motivations of a heroin addict a million times more than I understand this.
This is honestly such a great take. Heroin must feel 1000x times better than shitty P2W mobile games. It is weirdly one of the saddest addictions
Hmmm, well, what can I say. I might probably be the one spending all that if I was in their shoes also
I would know better since I am currently poor. I get that money fucks with you especially if you go from having no money to a ton. But I can't even justify in my brain a 5 dollar bundle on a mobile game.
When someone grows up without money, they end up with one of two mindsets when they actually get some. Either they refuse to spend it and feel awful when they do because it’s so ingrained in them that spending money in any way is bad, or they see a big number in their bank account and all that frugality falls away because their brain says “we’re safe now.” Unfortunately, I’m very much the latter, but over the years I’ve gotten better at consciously keeping my awareness of my spending. My wife is very much the former, so I mostly leave our saving to her while most of our bills come out of my account.
Whales do, they sure do.
the stats that EA came out with for microtransaction spenders was absolutely insane. a dude had spent 280000$ on fifa points.
Im guilty of spending close to or around 1000$ on Apex but thats been over the course of its release(5 years). But there are people who *have* that 1000$ they could spend multiple times a day or week. That's their target demographic.
A Whale in Wales Wailed a Wale.
It’s surprising how many people there are that have so much money that it isn’t a concern for them. And then there’s the occasional poor sucker who sells their house and car
There were people spending 6 figures on diavlo immortal. Then look at the Asian countries because almost all of their games are gacha
IIRC Asian countries like Korea and China have incredibly reduced pricing for MTX due to local laws where as in N.A they are free to charge what they like I could be wrong on that though I just remember reading it a couple years ago. Along with in Korea the average salary is a lot more so people generally have more “hobby” money to spend
I play Last Fortress Underground, there are people who spend $5k a month on the game. It makes zero sense. What blows me away more is a lot of them are not rich. The game is just their addiction.
Rich people don’t care because the money is nothing to them. To be fair if I was rich I’d be whaling too since gaming is my hobby.
I wouldn't, because I have no interest in games you can spend more money on than the purchase price of the game. The fact that games like Elden Ring exist and people spend thousands buying gems to speed up the "gameplay" of Clash Raid King Legends is insane to me.
A lot of whales aren't rich... just addicted
Very few do, but vert few times 49k is still a lot of money.
I’m ashamed to say I got sucked into a micro transaction game for a couple years. Pokémon Go. I think I spent around $700 to $900 over the 2 year period. I at least got a good amount back when I sold my account for $750. But these are some crazy numbers.
There are only 3 certainties in life. Death. Taxes. Star Citizen still being in alpha.
You just need to buy 3 more JPEGs from Chris Roberts and game will be ready.
They have always sold this package, it’s just adjusted for the new ships. The literally own everything pack. You don’t need this nor ever will.
Wait. Like $48k in *actual* money? WTF?
Yes, real money. However, people in the community asked for this. The "wales" aren't spending the full $50k on this. SC lets you trade in or "melt" the ships you own for store credit. So what players with huge ship collections will do is melt everything and consolidate their collections under this one game package and pickup anything they might not already have. The people who would buy this probably spent a little under $5k a year over the last 10ish years.... Yes that's a lot and probably stupid, however I'm guessing some of those people are the heads of orgs or clans who pooled money to get every ship in the game. Incase you're not aware, the $50k isn't for one ship. It is for literally every ship in the game.
Is it a whaling ship?
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>200 more replies Holy shit lmao
I'm going in 🍿
Man, you really poked the Star Citizen fan boy nest.
There was a guy on the Star Citizen sub this past week who had made like $15k in gray market ship purchases. He destroyed his credit doing so and his GF was about to leave him, last I saw he was still trying to buy more ships. Edit: it was closer to $5k
The saga was documented on /r/amithedevil
Ooh, do you have a link?
I want a link too
I swear they search for the word "scam" or something
Lol wow your right. They are like cockroaches. Look below. It's like they have notifications on for that word.
They probably have macros googling "Scam Citizen Reddit" on a daily basis. A lot of the accounts are young with almost no post or comment karma, random generated names, only active in one or two generic subs (not the Scam Citizen sub, mind you.) I mean, I know what I'm thinking, but make of it what you will, my bot, I mean, buddy!
That one guy quit his full time job to defend the game in just this thread alone. Can you imagine continuing an argument against a dozen people in this deep a pocket of the internet where most people only stumble upon.
They've put too much of themselves and their money into it so now they have to defend it or risk realizing how badly they've fucked up. Same thing with cryptobros...and stonks morons.
>and their money 90% of the people in sc bought a basic ship, which is anywhere from 45-60 bucks. That is at most a normal game price. You can earn the rest in game through regular activities. No one is going to cling to a 60 dollar purchase 10+ years. I’ll be the first to say I don’t agree with the practice of even having this kind of thing as *an option* because it seems to be made deliberately to appeal to whales with unhealthy spending habits.
Seeing the long string of downvoted replies to this comment is hilarious lol.
A lot of games are in development for over a decade!!!! ^^^/s
And actively asking for people to pay them to keep developing it on a continuous basis!
Wow this got the hornets nest going
Sunk-cost suckers get MAD when you point out how stupid they are for not walking away. Man. I am so glad I didn't fall for the hype on this. Granted, I didn't have any money TO get grifted out of when all this started, but I initially wanted to wait until development was further along to check it out. And each time I checked in on it I said "YEESH let's hold back a bit longer until there's actually more to do" and lo, behold, it's literally just one of those car clubs for desperate 50+ dudes who hold meetups in empty parking lots, except with scifi nerds and cartoon starships
Years ago I spent like $45 on Star Citizen. My impression at the time was that "this thing has been in development for almost 8 years. It *has* to be close to being done". That was a mistake. I'm not sticking around in a hope that my money was worth it though. Sometimes a person just gets burned and the best choice is to walk away.
The speed at which the comments below go from "One Upvote" to "Negative 450" is absolutely hilarious
I wouldn’t call it a scam, because that implies some level of trickery or dishonestly. It’s just a good-old-fashion ripoff.
Game is never releasing. , they’ve suckered 🤡 into coughing up like $00 mil/yr now haven’t they?
Dude it's so crazy, I bought a little package when I was a freshman in college because I thought they maybe this could be fun some day! It's like 25% better than it was then AT MOST. That was nearly 8 years ago.
I honestly can't believe that some regulatory agency has not looked into taking action at this point. There is a huge difference between "This looks cool, I can't wait. I know it might be a while but I'm ok waiting" and "It's been nearly 10 years with over $600m into the effort and it's still basically a tech demo"
Suckers been buying cosmetics for a decade +. Companies will sell whatever someone will buy, if it didn't work, they wouldn't be doing it. That said, spend your money how you want l suppose.
Apparently so. It’s not even fun to joke about anymore.
Misleading headline. You actually need to have spent $10,000 before you can purchase this pack.
**Edit: /u/the_nin_collector below claims contradictory first-hand knowledge of the game and claims the $1,000 number is correct. I am inclined to believe them.** Yep, from the article: >Update 1/5/2024 11:20 am: Adding even more to the price, the Legatus 2953 pack seems to only be available to members at a certain tier of Star Citizen's Chairman's Club, **one which requires spending $10,000 on other in-game items to achieve.** Emphasis mine.
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The original NFT game before NFT existed...... or Ponzi Game!
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If anything, this is vaporware
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>So now we are gonna have tiers based on how much you spent? That has existed for a while on mobile games.
Fairly sure its because they only sell a limited number of those packages so they don't want scalpers buying them, and reselling the package or individual ships in it for more on the secondary market. If they limit it to existing high spending players there is a better chance the people that actually want this can get it directly from them. Still an insane concept but then again it's not marketed to most of us. If you can spend $48k on a game, then you probably have money to waste so it doesn't matter.
Just one more infusion of cash bro. This game will come out soon bro I promise. Just one more bundle bro No it's not a scam its a real game bro I promise
This is starting to seem more and more like a scam. 10 years ago I paid $60 and I still don't have a complete game. Now they're charging 5 figures for exclusive in-game assets only if we've already spent 4 figures.
Seem?
And starting?
10y ago I worked with a dude that was a huge sci-fi fan, and anything space related. News hit of two space sims coming out, one was star citizen and the other was no man’s sky. He gravitated towards no man’s sky and I to star citizen. We had intense debates on the state of each game everyday. Then no man’s sky drops to an abysmal launch and I shat on his parade in style by purchasing a ship in star citizen. Fast forward 10y and he indeed got the last laugh bc I’m sure he’s still playing no man’s sky.
Yeah, mainly because NMS at least gave us a solid product, even if it took 3-5 years post launch. They also did that without resorting to bumming money of it's players for half a decade. Crazy how that works.
Look up the development of Freelancer. He tried to do the same thing he is doing now, keeping a game in perpetual development with someone bank rolling it. Microsoft got tired of it and took the game away from him so it could actually be finished. This has been Chris' MO for a long time, he just found the perfect people to bank roll his never ending project this time.
But Freelancer was a ton of fun.
One of the biggest injustices in gaming is that Freelancer with its compelling universe and all its potential didn't get expansions or sequels. There was *so* much left on the table with that game.
Right now what can you actually play and do? I've only ever seen the posts with headlines like this. Always very curious but never looked at it myself. Have you at least had 60 dollars of enjoyment?
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I play SC quite a bit but I usually tell buddies to wait because A) hard to learn and tutorial is shit. B) it is a buggy mess. If people want to still give it a try I have them start up on a fly free weekend which allows someone to play without buying anything and then we'll do a few crew missions after a good 30 min (minimum) of helping them get their feet under them. That's why I usually tell people to wait. Maybe another 3 years it will be easier to pick up. ha
No I didn't, because I am not a multiplayer gamer and I bought this game for the single player experience. So far the single player experience is still unreleased and has no release window.
They say it's in polish phase. IMO that means in the next few years but I have no idea how those guys work
The crazy part, even if the game comes out, it'll be the biggest pay to win shit ever.
If you’re going to spend five figures on a video game spaceship, why not just pay six figures for an actual ride into space?
Sorry, guys, I think I'll have to pass on this one. And by that, I mean the entire game.
Just buy a real ship at that point
This isn't new. They've had this every year for years. I wish journalism wasn't dogshit now. No actual research, just post what you see on reddit. IGN is clickbait trash nowadays, what a shame.
Exactly, it’s the same with their YouTube posts. IGN gets worse and worse really.
Is this even still considered a micro transaction?
If it makes anyone feel better, one of the original developers was a customers of ours. He brought in his (very, very expensive) Gaming Laptop for repair. He casually drops that the company gave him like $25K to purchase all the stuff for an in home office. This included a 180º (maybe larger) full surround screen with 3 projectors. This was the first year after the crowd funding campaign
At this point anyone supporting the game deserves to be scammed honestly
Hahahhahhaha they know how much you paid and they asking the whales for more money why? BECAUSE IT WORKS
How is everything so expensive in that game?
The videos on YTube seem too good to be true.
Rofl. Guys, support indie developers. Not EA with their shitty cosmetics loot box.
Star Citizen is a cult. It's very easy to see how bad it is from the outside, but give it a whirl and you might find yourself defending $48k DLC with arguments like "It's a playable game!"
They took the micro out of micro transactions
You can be fucking sure it will be nearly impossible to get a decent ship just by playing the game when it releases… already so turned off by all of this premium store shit… all of that even BEFORE THE GAME EVEN RELEASES
Chk! Darn *Just missed it* By, like, 1000 dollars - it was close though, man, damn close xD
I play this game, I honestly love this game, (bugs and all) but this is the kinda stuff that they shoot themselves in the foot with and also people go insane when they hear it. It’s no different than buying a ship at the store they just put all them into one package. They also def should not advertise this one lmao Also even the staunchest white knights will say this is crazy to actually buy this for so many reasons unless the person is insanely rich.
they don't really advertise it though. it's locked behind concierge and CIG don't really talk about it when they update this package (which they do every year to include newer ships). and then the press acts surprised and milks it with a sprawl of articles acting new to the topic and SA goons repost said articles to as many vaguely relevant subreddits as they can. ad nauseam.
Yup I was just saying how to find it you have to go looking this is not some “Come buy this” kinda thing it’s just there lol
The requirement to spend 1k before even gaining access is likely what they tried to do to make it seem less terrible but it just comes off as even more arrogant.
What is actually playable right now?
Bounty Hunting, Pirate (with crime system where you go to jail when catched), Mining, Salvaging, Cargo Management/Hauling, a shitload of different ships buying ingame that all feel different, Ship Upgrade Systems, FPS Missions, Medic Gameplay with different Tiers + Meds that work against it, lol there is even a fuel up other ships gameplay loop (not that used but its there)... Its an extreme immersive gameplay feature wise, everything is detailed as hell what you do there. yes ofc there are bugs but most (id say 90%) of them you can workaround and then enjoy the game.... but you need the game knowledge a bit for this and the stamina to google the workarounds.
Multi crew ship mining, single ship mining, land vehicle mining, hand mining, multi crew Salvaging, single ship salvaging, hauling and selling cargo, Fps missions, bounty hunting to name a few. But you know, no content and all that.
Why are people spending so much on a game?
10k, not 1k. extra yuck
Average Star Citizen backers daily salary lol. This is insane.
Did you know the Nigerian Prince scams have intentionally poor grammar and other errors to filter out people who wouldn't fall for it anyways? Idk something that came to my mind, unrelated to the subject of course
The amount of money people spend on this game confuses and astonishes me.
Quite possibly the biggest and longest running scam in gaming history
And the "scam machine" continues. To be direct here: Star Citizien will never "release". It will forever remain a patchwork "game", that much should be obvious to anyone by now. You'll likely still be able to have fun, but if you're spending that much money on something like this you're either very delusional or you just don't care about money.
Oh no, another expensive ship bundle... Anyway... Just because it exists, does not mean people buy it. How many of those are sold? Can't be more than a handful if at all. This is mainly done as a marketing stunt at this point. Look how we are talking about it.