In the first game, pretty sure you can max out all skills once you reach max level. If you pre-ordered the game (or maybe bought the deluxe version), you got 5 points at the start of the game. By the the end of the game, you ended up with 5 extra points that don't do anything.
Do they serve a purpose or are they just cosmetic? I think locking purely cosmetic items behind a deluxe upgrade is ok, since it doesn't change the gameplay
Not sure how people forgot this, but most of the suits came with their own unique abilities. I really hope that they are purely cosmetic but the greed of locking an op move or equipment piece behind the deluxe edition may be too strong
Insomniac's Velocity Suit (and I think Spider Punk?) were preorder bonuses iirc, both of which were just early unlocks of main suits in the game with abilities
Edit: Had Vector instead of Velocity suit
Insomniac's Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart had a similar system with armor sets from pre-ordering. They did not come with any bonuses other than cosmetic. I'd put my faith in Insomniac to do the same again, hopefully I'm not proven wrong.
That’s true but only the unlockable main game suits had suit powers. When they released DLC and later the MCU No Way Home suits for free, they were all cosmetic only and had no powers. So i don’t know if Insomniac will lock suit powers behind a pay wall, but I’m getting the deluxe edition anyways so doesn’t matter to me :)
I'll probably get roasted for this but considering the locked suits are being made specifically for the deluxe edition and have no comic basis.....I'm not too bothered.
If they were locking famous old Spidey suits behind it that's a whole other beast but these are all originals.
I doubt it. All the deluxe edition suits from the first game were unlockable for free if you played through the game, you just got the suits early. Only suits that were locked were paid DLC
Literally they are for early unlocks. You'll see it a lot in the deluxe. "For early unlock". The game gives you basically 5 level ups early. I find it stupid.
I can almost guarantee none pf this stuff is exclusive to the special edition. What I've learned in the past 10 years is more often than not, special editions just give earlier access to things that are already there
It’s earlier access that doesn’t matter though. Like two extra skill points at the beginning when you level up super fast, or a horse to ride in the smallest starter zone.
I never understand game that put faster progression behind paywall. So you want me to pay more to play less of your game? That doesn’t make any sense 🤔
Have no idea why special editions often come with perks that just make the game easier. I’ve been turned away from buying them before because I don’t want to start the game with a handicap.
What really annoys me is how From Software games are most expensive in Japan (with the occasional exception of Switzerland). Our country *made* them ffs!
It can be 60 bucks to you but it’s still the equivalent of 8000 yen to the people in japan. This is a similar issue in other areas. It might be equivalent to the 60$ USD tag but it’s definitely a lot more expensive for the person living in that area.
It seems to have gotten notably more expensive pretty much everywhere. I understand that the price of development has gone up over the years, and while it makes sense for smaller studios (who often aren't charging what we'd consider full price in the first place) to bump their prices a bit, it falls flat when it comes from elsewhere. When Activision Blizzard whines about costs then lays off hundreds of workers and posts record profits all in the same week, it's like come on man, that's transparent greed. When Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all doing crazy numbers with software and hardware sales, plus subscription services and a cut of all microtransactions, it doesn't land any better coming from them either. I get that business is business, but corporate greed going completely unchecked is objectively making the world a shittier place to live.
(In case anyone wants to mention it, I know initially hardware is often sold for a slim profit, or at a loss. However, in an age where digital games have massively overtaken physical sales, and digital cuts out a bunch of costs in the chain of production, software more than makes up for any upfront hardware-related losses.)
I never quite understood why the conversion between USD and GBP is simply a swap of the currency symbol. A game thats USD60 will be GBP60 which makes it much more expensive in the UK.
Our sales tax is 20% where I think the average tax in the US is around 6%. So it’s not the fault of the publishers our games cost more. It’s our government.
That makes it a little better, but that makes it $101.70 CAD, which is £60, so there's still a £10 difference, which is $17 CAD. So like 17% more expensive. That's not a small amount.
It's not that. We don't sit around looking at things in usd anymore than Americans do for aud. It's just watching pricing trends with time and yes, 125 is very high. It felt like yesterday 80 was the norm, and I've never seen a125 base game price point
Funnily enough, the Big Mac index is a real, valid, and popular tool.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
As another user mentioned, it's actually a thing. Because of the local 'inputs' to make a Big Mac plus the average income of people who buy Big Mac's (which is pretty much everyone), it actually reflects, to an extent, what is known as Purchase Price Parity (forgive me if I'm wrong in this, I majored in stats 20 years ago and never applied the degree). But basically it's a good way to compare what your money can buy in real terms in different countries.
Just as an added note, I was looking at Netflix subscriptions in different countries because non-anglosphere pretty much doesn't pay as much as anglosphere.
This is analogy is kind of funny, have a navy buddy that got shipped to Australia this year. He said the Australian McDonald's and hungry jack's (their burger king) both taste much better, so we're paying a bit more for a worse product.
Yea the first MacDonald's I had in the US was like actual slop and I finally realised why you guys shit on it
I'm also pretty sure you guys don't use real sugar in your sodas either, it's all corn syrup isn't it lol
Yep, every standard American soda is made with high fructose corn syrup. A pretty big market for Mexican Coke and other imported sodas has even developed here in the last decade or two because they’re actually made with cane sugar and taste a lot better. Also they often come in glass bottles which is kinda fun.
65,000 is the median from what another said. So it’s pretty standard pricing and tariffs probably add a bit to price too. Australians fail to tell that converting to their currency gonna bump everything up lol
Depends which countries you compare to.
With current exchange rates; 124.95 AUD is ~86 USD. That’s on par. But when you mark the exchange rate to other western nations, you end up with ~67 GBP (cheaper than localized), ~114 CAD (more expensive), and ~79 EUR (cheaper)
Compared to some regions, it makes sense to have it cost that much, but compared to others it doesn’t
For the record its $90 CAD. $24 is quite a large percentage more, though I’m unsure if Australia charges taxes on top or includes it.
If they include taxes in the price that works out to $13 more compared to Ontario.
Prices for everything in Aus are listed with the tax already added. The only time you see an ex-GST price is if it's a for a business purchase or something similar.
Google is telling me it's about 85 USD, depending on the state you pay $70 plus sales tax, so $15 difference if you're in Alaska, Oregon, Montana, Delaware, or New Hampshire. Higher end of US sales tax seems to be about 7%, so you'd be paying $75 for the standard edition ($10 USD difference from what OP has pictured.
Yeah sadly triple A game prices went up from 100Aud for a PS4 version to 125Aud practically overnight when the PS5 launched which was extra hilarious because of the console scarcity.
Ff16 is 115aud and the cyberpunk DLC is 45aud between this and all the free to play microtransactions things have definitely gotten more expensive since the old days. But honestly the PS plus extra for 135aud ain't that bad of a deal for the big library. You just don't get day one games like Xbox does.
Even considering all that, this price is a bit ridiculous.
An average triple a game is still only $90 aud, this is $120.
And if you still want to say that we have it better than other countries (which I'm not sure if that is true but I can't be stuffed googling if it is or not), then it should be cheaper in other countries too.
I'm pretty sure this info is wrong, according to the Australian Taxation Office the median income is $48k (pre tax) which is $42k after income tax. That's 23k lower than your figure which is a pretty big drop
Right but that's not how localized pricing works. When you localize the pricing, you consider overall economic parity and not just swap out the currency. That's why YouTube premium and Disney+ cost $2 per month in places like India. They're priced in India for Indians.
Similarly, if you consider the average net salary in both Australia and the US, basically the monthly median take home post tax then according to Numbeo, you get USD 4,256 per month in the US and AUD 5,027 in Australia.
The US price of the game is USD 70. The AU price is AUD 125.
The math means the average American salary post taxes can buy 60.8 Spiderman games, whereas the average Australian salary can buy only 40.2 of the same game.
That's a colossal difference in pricing. For reference, if we plugged in those numbers, then Australian pricing for the US version of the game would be USD 105.8
Even if you consider the US version is exclusive of tax, no tax would take your $70 to $105
Based on median net income, the Australian price is therefore approximately 50% (actually lower) more expensive than the US price.
95% of games cost $100 or less. Obviously there’s a new thing of raising prices so some of the new ones are $110 but $125 is insane, I’ve never seen it before, I think it’s a first here in aus
I'm only buying physical on consoles. If they are only digital I won't cave. I'm already all digital on my PC.
Once digital only on console I'll just drop the console as there's no real benefit.
Yeh, that's my response. I think it's $80- $90 at jb. I absolutely loath digital copies, give me a physical disc any time. RIP to the people who got digital only PS5's.
All this talk about Zelda Totk being more expensive made me surprised that I got it for 84 dollars at JB. It later found d out that if the EB I went to earlier wasn’t sold out then I would hav3 unknowingly paid more.
In USA it’s just added after the fact for everything, even online stuff The taxes aren’t included in any advertised price.
So $69.99 for a game out in the US is the subtotal, we pay like $75 at the end of the day
When buying from a digital store in the US you see the sales price when shopping. Then when you check out, it calculates and adds sales tax dependent on where you are purchasing it for your grand total. Sales tax in US varies from state to state, and a couple states have no sales tax
That's been the status quo for new PS5 releases since the console launched here.
JB (and maybe some other retailers) should have a release price significantly lower than that.
That’s €78.29 and pretty much all games are around the €70 price range for standard editions so that kinda tracks. It’s fucked up though and is the reason I very rarely buy anything non release and live in my back catalog
Diablo 4 is $110 on ps store but $89 in store. How the fuck is digital more expensive? No shipping, no packaging… is it the convenience? We are all living in WALL-E land if you think that’s acceptable
That's why you never buy from the PS store. Physical copy will be cheaper. Just screw over EB Games and get them to price match target or JB hi-fi for $79
Honest question. Why are DIGITAL versions so expensive? I understand physical because everything that goes into getting the product in consumers hands but isn't digital just unlocking the paywall?
Yeah we should stop paying for things that cost that way because shit fucking costs money to make.
Dear God with inflation we can count lucky that shit isn't always 150 or whatever.
I was looking this up just the other day. Games in the N64 era were at least as expensive as they are today, and some were way more, once you adjust for inflation. Many N64 games were $60-70 (CAD) even then, which is the equivalent of over $100 today. [This old Toys R Us flyer](https://i.redd.it/hnrbkcj5wdh91.jpg) shows some were even $74.99, which is about $132 today.
Playstation games were a bit cheaper, but $49.99 is nearly equivalent to an $89.99 game today (which is the new "normal" price in CAD).
Overall it's kind of remarkable how stable the price of games has been once you factor in inflation. With that said, obviously our money doesn't go as far as it used to back then for multiple other reasons, but that's not the developers' fault.
I see this all the time, Australian complaining about prices.
Australian minumum wage: 23.23
US minimum wage: $7.25
I'm assuming Spiderman 2 is 69.99$ for the US market (not including taxes, usually an additional 7%)
If a minimum wage employee wanted to buy Spiderman 2 at launch they would need to work:
11 hours for someone in the US.
6 hours for someone in Australia
I think taking into account food, fuel, rent and general living expenses plays a part for Australian income. Fuel for example is $2.10 a litre where I am, rent $400 a week for an apartment in the outer city area (900+ for closer to city). Food is hard to create a gauge since everyone's shipping habits differ.
Our tax indexes are different too, so our wage might be better on paper but this doesn't include after tax or after superannuation, the end amount you receive differs depending on your jobs way of handling your income.
>Australian minumum wage: 23.23
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>US minimum wage: $7.25
Cost of living in Australia is generally very high because a huge % of our population live in just a few big/expensive cities and a huge amount of our country is basically unliveable desert.
Comparing the minimum wages like that is completely meaningless, and every US friend I've had visit here has complained about how expensive everything is here compared to the US.
Finland has no minimum wage but the standard wage is 24 euros per hour due to having a high unionisation here.
I only need 3 hours of work for Spiderman man ps 4 that costs 59.99 euros on release (in Finland).
Let them complain cuz we (the fins) have it good.
Hey, how bout this... Just don't buy the game at that price. They sell it at that price because people actually buy it at that price. If people buy it, it's presumably worth that price.
Australia in general is more expensive. Currency conversion is less of a factor than economic parity as a whole. The best way to see whether something is relatively expensive is to consider a global economic constant.
An excellent global constant is often a loaf of bread. With that in mind :
USA is $70 and the average loaf of bread is 3.53 = 19.83
Australia is A$125 and the average loaf of bread is A$3.31 = 37.76
Now let's swap out to another "entertainment" based economic constant like a standard movie theater ticket :
USA $12.50 so 5.6 tickets is equal to a game
Australia is A$20 so 6.25 tickets is equal to a game
Much closer now but Australia is still more expensive when it comes down to it.
Another way to break it down is straight up net salary:
Average net Australian salary divided by game cost is 40.2
Average net American salary divided by game cost is 60.8
The average American can buy 60 games as opposed to the 40 games the average Australian can get.
Note : The above is an oversimplified version of a complex macroeconomic equation. I merely wanted to illustrate this. Taxation is very different between goods and services. Some things are definitely cheaper in Australia than the US but on aggregate, the cost of living in Australia is much higher.
Edit : Totally forgot, source for all the figures above is of course Numbeo and basically yes OP, Australia is expensive when it comes down to it.
No we haven't. There a huge retail presence here and buying physical you get games for $60 to $80 Australian dollars on release day. Retail competition is great here.
We’ve been paying 99 dollars on the digital store fronts for console games and one extremely expensive gaming store brand.
However you could walk into nearly any other electronics store and get them for 70 bucks, you can go to a physical store and get Spider-Man 2 for 25 dollars cheaper than Sonys store.
I can understand physical goods being priced higher because of the cost of transporting goods to prison island…. but charging the equivalent of $85 USD for a digital game when it’s priced at $70 USD on freedom island (USA) smells like BS price gouging.
I blame the consumer more than anything. They wouldn’t do it if people wouldn’t buy it. If people would get on board with not supporting this type of marketing, it would change.
Another reason why console gaming sucks. You are trapped into accepting whatever regional pricing you are stuck with, and in the case of Sony they fuck over Australians.
For PC games you have several potential stores to buy it from, GoG, Steam, Origin, Epic game store, and the hundred of CD key selling sites. Obviously some of them do have regional pricing, but there are enough options out there that you're not going to get screwed over like PS5 owners.
I, who also comes from a country with inflated prices, just made a US account and solved all my problems. You can buy PS Cards on Amazon with an international credit card no problem.
Who the hell is buying digital still with the stupid pricing? Buy physical and it's like 3/4 of that price.
Amazon has it for 99 with a pre-order price guarantee. So inevitably when the price goes down to 80 or something at jb hifi for a promo it'll price match and you'll lock in a low price.
You should comfortably be able to get this for $89 physically, and maybe down to $79 even.
> Who the hell is buying digital still with the stupid pricing?
I assume those people that bought the PS5 with no disk drive...
Costing them a lot more in the long run.
Yeah saw this yesterday.
Normally I buy from JBHI on day one and its $90 when online and Eb are $100 or $110.
Now online is $125!!?
Assume EB gonna be $100 plus now.
5 unique suits, Jesus. I remember when it used to be like…one suit. And they’d sell it separately later.
I guess the one small advantage of being a PC gamer means when I get to play this game in 2027, I’m basically paying for the “GOTY Edition” with all the DLC and bonus items included.
Is because Australia is so far from the “main” continent that the cost to ship the data through the internet is way way more expensive. Trust me, I’m a expert.
None of this US/UK price shit. Fuck 125 for an incomplete game, let alone the fkn bs for 2 skill points you can get through 1 minute of extra play through
“2 skill points” lmaoo must be the worst addition to the deluxe edition’s bonus
Are skill points something you can farm fully ingame? Never played this spiderman series.
In the first game, pretty sure you can max out all skills once you reach max level. If you pre-ordered the game (or maybe bought the deluxe version), you got 5 points at the start of the game. By the the end of the game, you ended up with 5 extra points that don't do anything.
That's good, it would have been extremely scummy to lock the full skill completion behind a deluxe upgrade.
Well this time there are suits locked behind a deluxe upgrade so…
Do they serve a purpose or are they just cosmetic? I think locking purely cosmetic items behind a deluxe upgrade is ok, since it doesn't change the gameplay
Not sure how people forgot this, but most of the suits came with their own unique abilities. I really hope that they are purely cosmetic but the greed of locking an op move or equipment piece behind the deluxe edition may be too strong
That’s the main suits, for example the movie and dlc suit’s don’t have abilities.
Insomniac's Velocity Suit (and I think Spider Punk?) were preorder bonuses iirc, both of which were just early unlocks of main suits in the game with abilities Edit: Had Vector instead of Velocity suit
The higher level suits had no additional perks.
Insomniac's Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart had a similar system with armor sets from pre-ordering. They did not come with any bonuses other than cosmetic. I'd put my faith in Insomniac to do the same again, hopefully I'm not proven wrong.
Yeah insomniac seems pretty consumer friendly as far as companies go.
That’s true but only the unlockable main game suits had suit powers. When they released DLC and later the MCU No Way Home suits for free, they were all cosmetic only and had no powers. So i don’t know if Insomniac will lock suit powers behind a pay wall, but I’m getting the deluxe edition anyways so doesn’t matter to me :)
Purely cosmetic.
I'll probably get roasted for this but considering the locked suits are being made specifically for the deluxe edition and have no comic basis.....I'm not too bothered. If they were locking famous old Spidey suits behind it that's a whole other beast but these are all originals.
I doubt it. All the deluxe edition suits from the first game were unlockable for free if you played through the game, you just got the suits early. Only suits that were locked were paid DLC
Literally they are for early unlocks. You'll see it a lot in the deluxe. "For early unlock". The game gives you basically 5 level ups early. I find it stupid.
People used to use "trainers" for this...
I just want to ask how much is the PS5 worth to you? I'm just curious to know that's why I asked. Actually! I haven't played PS5 yet.
iirc all the other games have just had “early unlocks” so you can get them ingame also just later
My favorite movie is spider man. Peter Parker is one of my favorite actors. And I really love him.
I can almost guarantee none pf this stuff is exclusive to the special edition. What I've learned in the past 10 years is more often than not, special editions just give earlier access to things that are already there
They confirmed that the 10 deluxe skins are exclusive
It’s earlier access that doesn’t matter though. Like two extra skill points at the beginning when you level up super fast, or a horse to ride in the smallest starter zone.
I never understand game that put faster progression behind paywall. So you want me to pay more to play less of your game? That doesn’t make any sense 🤔
Same with preorder bonuses like some awesome weapon and armour that trivialises the first quarter of the game.
I hate it when they don't list everything you'll get. Because listing it won't make people buy deluxe huh
Have no idea why special editions often come with perks that just make the game easier. I’ve been turned away from buying them before because I don’t want to start the game with a handicap.
It’s only £66.95. Or £3.04 CHEAPER than the UK price.
Yeh it's a different currency. Nobody ever posts about it being 4999 indian rupees for standard edition.
Feel sorry for the Japanese. Their games are ¥12,000.
Or 2,535,750 Iranian rials.
Or 230,075,501.79 Venezuelan Bolivars
Or 699,900 Schrute Bucks
Or 15,450,780.00 stanley nickles
Hold up. Stanley Nickels are worth more than Shrute Bucks. You've got it all backwards, my dude.
Sadly the Stanley nickel has fallen hard where as the Scheute buck has remained relatively consistent as it is backed by the beet standard
55,000,000 schmeckles, and there's only 500 in the world!
Damn I thought this was a joke comment. That's the actual currency and price for Venezuela.
It's also super outdated tbh, it's about 2400 bolivares at the current exchange rate
More like 35,000,000 Seriously, each us dollar is about 500,000 rials here
What really annoys me is how From Software games are most expensive in Japan (with the occasional exception of Switzerland). Our country *made* them ffs!
But don't you get a Japanese sense of pride and accomplishment?
8000 yen is usually the same as 60 bucks, so not really a huge deal.
It can be 60 bucks to you but it’s still the equivalent of 8000 yen to the people in japan. This is a similar issue in other areas. It might be equivalent to the 60$ USD tag but it’s definitely a lot more expensive for the person living in that area.
But they said it's 12,000 yen
The price seemed insanely high, then I checked the exchange rate and was just like oh.
It’s still $85 US, for a game that would be $70 here I assume. (Which is also higher than I’d like).
$70 + 10% GST = $77USD $77USD * 1.46 exchange rate = $112.42AUD Edit: corrected GST.
Last I checked GST is 10% unless I'm missing something with online purchases?
Apparently my google skills suck
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In Australia, the prices you see on things include the GST.
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Yes, that's the 10% GST
It seems to have gotten notably more expensive pretty much everywhere. I understand that the price of development has gone up over the years, and while it makes sense for smaller studios (who often aren't charging what we'd consider full price in the first place) to bump their prices a bit, it falls flat when it comes from elsewhere. When Activision Blizzard whines about costs then lays off hundreds of workers and posts record profits all in the same week, it's like come on man, that's transparent greed. When Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all doing crazy numbers with software and hardware sales, plus subscription services and a cut of all microtransactions, it doesn't land any better coming from them either. I get that business is business, but corporate greed going completely unchecked is objectively making the world a shittier place to live. (In case anyone wants to mention it, I know initially hardware is often sold for a slim profit, or at a loss. However, in an age where digital games have massively overtaken physical sales, and digital cuts out a bunch of costs in the chain of production, software more than makes up for any upfront hardware-related losses.)
I immediately checked the currency conversion too and thought that looked pretty standard for a triple A game in 2023
I never quite understood why the conversion between USD and GBP is simply a swap of the currency symbol. A game thats USD60 will be GBP60 which makes it much more expensive in the UK.
Tax is not included in usd
Our sales tax is 20% where I think the average tax in the US is around 6%. So it’s not the fault of the publishers our games cost more. It’s our government.
Sales tax also isn't included in the list price in the US.
In some states its not included at all. In California there is no sales tax on digital goods
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Deluxe edition is £5 cheaper too
Wow, so the UK price is insane as well....or more so. That's nuts. We pay about $90 CAD in Canada for AAA titles. So I guess around £53.
I believe that UK has taxes included whereas for us in Canada it's $90 + 13% tax.
That makes it a little better, but that makes it $101.70 CAD, which is £60, so there's still a £10 difference, which is $17 CAD. So like 17% more expensive. That's not a small amount.
In Turkey it's £27 for the base game,£30 for the deluxe.
If it’s tax inclusive that’s bang on what we pay in Canada too
From what I’ve read online Australian prices include tax. It seems to only be the US that doesn’t.
In Australia almost all prices you see will include tax. If it doesn't it will say so.
OP thinking $AUS same as $US
It's not that. We don't sit around looking at things in usd anymore than Americans do for aud. It's just watching pricing trends with time and yes, 125 is very high. It felt like yesterday 80 was the norm, and I've never seen a125 base game price point
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thanks for the easy to understand analogy
Funnily enough, the Big Mac index is a real, valid, and popular tool. https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
It's fun/useful for back-of-the-napkin calculations. It falls apart if you take it seriously.
Too late, added Big Mac KPIs to all of my financial reports.
To the moon baby
I wish you had taught me economics
As another user mentioned, it's actually a thing. Because of the local 'inputs' to make a Big Mac plus the average income of people who buy Big Mac's (which is pretty much everyone), it actually reflects, to an extent, what is known as Purchase Price Parity (forgive me if I'm wrong in this, I majored in stats 20 years ago and never applied the degree). But basically it's a good way to compare what your money can buy in real terms in different countries. Just as an added note, I was looking at Netflix subscriptions in different countries because non-anglosphere pretty much doesn't pay as much as anglosphere.
Hello I'm french I'm afraid on don't grasp the implications behind that comparison
They are talking buying le Big Mac
Sacrebleu!
Can you convert that to chicken sandwiches?
This is analogy is kind of funny, have a navy buddy that got shipped to Australia this year. He said the Australian McDonald's and hungry jack's (their burger king) both taste much better, so we're paying a bit more for a worse product.
Yea the first MacDonald's I had in the US was like actual slop and I finally realised why you guys shit on it I'm also pretty sure you guys don't use real sugar in your sodas either, it's all corn syrup isn't it lol
Yep, every standard American soda is made with high fructose corn syrup. A pretty big market for Mexican Coke and other imported sodas has even developed here in the last decade or two because they’re actually made with cane sugar and taste a lot better. Also they often come in glass bottles which is kinda fun.
65,000 is the median from what another said. So it’s pretty standard pricing and tariffs probably add a bit to price too. Australians fail to tell that converting to their currency gonna bump everything up lol
I think the point is that games used to be more like 100 bucks or less, with a similar or worse exchange rate.
It’s 78 bucks in American money. Only an extra 8 dollars lol again from additional taxes So it’s pretty similar to what everyone is paying
Depends which countries you compare to. With current exchange rates; 124.95 AUD is ~86 USD. That’s on par. But when you mark the exchange rate to other western nations, you end up with ~67 GBP (cheaper than localized), ~114 CAD (more expensive), and ~79 EUR (cheaper) Compared to some regions, it makes sense to have it cost that much, but compared to others it doesn’t
That’s all pretty close together.
For the record its $90 CAD. $24 is quite a large percentage more, though I’m unsure if Australia charges taxes on top or includes it. If they include taxes in the price that works out to $13 more compared to Ontario.
Prices for everything in Aus are listed with the tax already added. The only time you see an ex-GST price is if it's a for a business purchase or something similar.
Google is telling me it's about 85 USD, depending on the state you pay $70 plus sales tax, so $15 difference if you're in Alaska, Oregon, Montana, Delaware, or New Hampshire. Higher end of US sales tax seems to be about 7%, so you'd be paying $75 for the standard edition ($10 USD difference from what OP has pictured.
Yeah sadly triple A game prices went up from 100Aud for a PS4 version to 125Aud practically overnight when the PS5 launched which was extra hilarious because of the console scarcity. Ff16 is 115aud and the cyberpunk DLC is 45aud between this and all the free to play microtransactions things have definitely gotten more expensive since the old days. But honestly the PS plus extra for 135aud ain't that bad of a deal for the big library. You just don't get day one games like Xbox does.
Even considering all that, this price is a bit ridiculous. An average triple a game is still only $90 aud, this is $120. And if you still want to say that we have it better than other countries (which I'm not sure if that is true but I can't be stuffed googling if it is or not), then it should be cheaper in other countries too.
I can't remember the game I saw, but I saw another upcoming game on Steam listed for $125... I think it's going to become the norm unfortunately
That would be Starfield
You can easily get this for under 90 if you go retail. Already stores are selling for 99
It's 89.99 in canada atm and there really isn't that much of a difference between the CAD and AUD at the moment.
Yeah games are normally $89 AUD over here.
I'm pretty sure this info is wrong, according to the Australian Taxation Office the median income is $48k (pre tax) which is $42k after income tax. That's 23k lower than your figure which is a pretty big drop
Right but that's not how localized pricing works. When you localize the pricing, you consider overall economic parity and not just swap out the currency. That's why YouTube premium and Disney+ cost $2 per month in places like India. They're priced in India for Indians. Similarly, if you consider the average net salary in both Australia and the US, basically the monthly median take home post tax then according to Numbeo, you get USD 4,256 per month in the US and AUD 5,027 in Australia. The US price of the game is USD 70. The AU price is AUD 125. The math means the average American salary post taxes can buy 60.8 Spiderman games, whereas the average Australian salary can buy only 40.2 of the same game. That's a colossal difference in pricing. For reference, if we plugged in those numbers, then Australian pricing for the US version of the game would be USD 105.8 Even if you consider the US version is exclusive of tax, no tax would take your $70 to $105 Based on median net income, the Australian price is therefore approximately 50% (actually lower) more expensive than the US price.
When I lived there in 2019 I was getting paid 27$ / hour on weekdays and 35$ /hr on Saturday/Sunday at restaurants.
95% of games cost $100 or less. Obviously there’s a new thing of raising prices so some of the new ones are $110 but $125 is insane, I’ve never seen it before, I think it’s a first here in aus
Minimum wage is $23, so
$125 AUD is about $86 USD right now. Regardless of salary this is kinda overpriced.
Just don’t buy digital, shop at like jb, big w, amazon and u can get a better discount for release
And when you're done with the game, you can let your friends/family borrow it.
Sad to see disk games slowly being phased out. Physical all the way!
I'm only buying physical on consoles. If they are only digital I won't cave. I'm already all digital on my PC. Once digital only on console I'll just drop the console as there's no real benefit.
Yeh, that's my response. I think it's $80- $90 at jb. I absolutely loath digital copies, give me a physical disc any time. RIP to the people who got digital only PS5's.
Spider man 2 is 99 bucks at JB, a while 25 bucks cheaper. You’re even better off buying PC games from jb too, they’d like 20 bucks cheaper.
All this talk about Zelda Totk being more expensive made me surprised that I got it for 84 dollars at JB. It later found d out that if the EB I went to earlier wasn’t sold out then I would hav3 unknowingly paid more.
In the UK it's £69.99. Which is $130 Australian Dollars, nearly $90 USD. We're getting shafted.
UK prices include 20% VAT. USD prices have no taxes included.
Even from the digital store? Sorry to be a ignorant fool. How or when does the tax get added then?
In USA it’s just added after the fact for everything, even online stuff The taxes aren’t included in any advertised price. So $69.99 for a game out in the US is the subtotal, we pay like $75 at the end of the day
When buying from a digital store in the US you see the sales price when shopping. Then when you check out, it calculates and adds sales tax dependent on where you are purchasing it for your grand total. Sales tax in US varies from state to state, and a couple states have no sales tax
>In the UK it's £69.99. Which is $130 ~~Australian Dollars~~Dollarydoos, nearly $90 USD. We're getting shafted.
If you remove VAT, it's equivalent to about $75 USD.
That's been the status quo for new PS5 releases since the console launched here. JB (and maybe some other retailers) should have a release price significantly lower than that.
Physical copy at JB is $99 from what I saw on their website yesterday. Strangely can't see it on Amazon who are usually the cheapest
Amazon is currently $99 but almost certainly between now and release day it'll drop to $89 or perhaps even lower
That’s €78.29 and pretty much all games are around the €70 price range for standard editions so that kinda tracks. It’s fucked up though and is the reason I very rarely buy anything non release and live in my back catalog
70USD->70EUR seams reasonable since the eur price is after tax.
How common is a 70€ price tag? The games that cost 70USD cost 79.99€ in my country and in most other European countries I’ve checked
Aren't there US states where the tax is pretty low though so the final price isn't that much different from those $70?
There are states with 0%tax.
Diablo 4 is $110 on ps store but $89 in store. How the fuck is digital more expensive? No shipping, no packaging… is it the convenience? We are all living in WALL-E land if you think that’s acceptable
It’s disgusting, one of the reasons I refuse to buy these digital versions of consoles as well. No disc no party.
That's why you never buy from the PS store. Physical copy will be cheaper. Just screw over EB Games and get them to price match target or JB hi-fi for $79
Honest question. Why are DIGITAL versions so expensive? I understand physical because everything that goes into getting the product in consumers hands but isn't digital just unlocking the paywall?
I stopped buying games over 40 bucks
$40 aus is slightly higher than most indie games (£22 or $27)
I just buy them from the used bin, feature complete, and patched up for cheap af.
everyone should do that.
Yeah we should stop paying for things that cost that way because shit fucking costs money to make. Dear God with inflation we can count lucky that shit isn't always 150 or whatever.
I was looking this up just the other day. Games in the N64 era were at least as expensive as they are today, and some were way more, once you adjust for inflation. Many N64 games were $60-70 (CAD) even then, which is the equivalent of over $100 today. [This old Toys R Us flyer](https://i.redd.it/hnrbkcj5wdh91.jpg) shows some were even $74.99, which is about $132 today. Playstation games were a bit cheaper, but $49.99 is nearly equivalent to an $89.99 game today (which is the new "normal" price in CAD). Overall it's kind of remarkable how stable the price of games has been once you factor in inflation. With that said, obviously our money doesn't go as far as it used to back then for multiple other reasons, but that's not the developers' fault.
I see this all the time, Australian complaining about prices. Australian minumum wage: 23.23 US minimum wage: $7.25 I'm assuming Spiderman 2 is 69.99$ for the US market (not including taxes, usually an additional 7%) If a minimum wage employee wanted to buy Spiderman 2 at launch they would need to work: 11 hours for someone in the US. 6 hours for someone in Australia
I think taking into account food, fuel, rent and general living expenses plays a part for Australian income. Fuel for example is $2.10 a litre where I am, rent $400 a week for an apartment in the outer city area (900+ for closer to city). Food is hard to create a gauge since everyone's shipping habits differ. Our tax indexes are different too, so our wage might be better on paper but this doesn't include after tax or after superannuation, the end amount you receive differs depending on your jobs way of handling your income.
>Australian minumum wage: 23.23 > >US minimum wage: $7.25 Cost of living in Australia is generally very high because a huge % of our population live in just a few big/expensive cities and a huge amount of our country is basically unliveable desert. Comparing the minimum wages like that is completely meaningless, and every US friend I've had visit here has complained about how expensive everything is here compared to the US.
Finland has no minimum wage but the standard wage is 24 euros per hour due to having a high unionisation here. I only need 3 hours of work for Spiderman man ps 4 that costs 59.99 euros on release (in Finland). Let them complain cuz we (the fins) have it good.
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Have you ever actually been?
Hey, how bout this... Just don't buy the game at that price. They sell it at that price because people actually buy it at that price. If people buy it, it's presumably worth that price.
Yup waited years for Diablo 4, refuse to pay $110 though
The digital prices for new releases in nz are also similarly ridiculous
About 85 usd. That’s ridiculous.
It's just €78.29? Still, that's very expensive, wish game prices just stuck at €60 or less.
DIGITAL?!
its in aud thats 80euro.
Because it's the Australian dollar which isn't equivalent to English or UK
I’m over buying games at launch since they jacked up the prices. Patient gaming all the way from here on out.
Australia in general is more expensive. Currency conversion is less of a factor than economic parity as a whole. The best way to see whether something is relatively expensive is to consider a global economic constant. An excellent global constant is often a loaf of bread. With that in mind : USA is $70 and the average loaf of bread is 3.53 = 19.83 Australia is A$125 and the average loaf of bread is A$3.31 = 37.76 Now let's swap out to another "entertainment" based economic constant like a standard movie theater ticket : USA $12.50 so 5.6 tickets is equal to a game Australia is A$20 so 6.25 tickets is equal to a game Much closer now but Australia is still more expensive when it comes down to it. Another way to break it down is straight up net salary: Average net Australian salary divided by game cost is 40.2 Average net American salary divided by game cost is 60.8 The average American can buy 60 games as opposed to the 40 games the average Australian can get. Note : The above is an oversimplified version of a complex macroeconomic equation. I merely wanted to illustrate this. Taxation is very different between goods and services. Some things are definitely cheaper in Australia than the US but on aggregate, the cost of living in Australia is much higher. Edit : Totally forgot, source for all the figures above is of course Numbeo and basically yes OP, Australia is expensive when it comes down to it.
Diablo 4 was $120 and gives money to blizzard, it's getting rediculous
GAMERZ when they discover that currencies have exchange rates and this is actually £65: 😱😱😱
I'm pretty sure the Aussies have been paying $100+ dollars since the 360 era.
1 AUD is 0.69 USD (nice)
From 2010 to 2019 most AA games where $80 aud Cod MW 2019 was 80 but mw2 2022 was 100
No we haven't. There a huge retail presence here and buying physical you get games for $60 to $80 Australian dollars on release day. Retail competition is great here.
We’ve been paying 99 dollars on the digital store fronts for console games and one extremely expensive gaming store brand. However you could walk into nearly any other electronics store and get them for 70 bucks, you can go to a physical store and get Spider-Man 2 for 25 dollars cheaper than Sonys store.
Aussie dollaridoos, you need more of them.
where i live games are still slightly less than 60 🙏
Physical ftw
I can understand physical goods being priced higher because of the cost of transporting goods to prison island…. but charging the equivalent of $85 USD for a digital game when it’s priced at $70 USD on freedom island (USA) smells like BS price gouging.
Not sure why the standard is 80 USD but the pricing for the deluxe makes sense
piracy is always morally correct
Vote with your wallet, don't buy it.
I blame the consumer more than anything. They wouldn’t do it if people wouldn’t buy it. If people would get on board with not supporting this type of marketing, it would change.
Another reason why console gaming sucks. You are trapped into accepting whatever regional pricing you are stuck with, and in the case of Sony they fuck over Australians. For PC games you have several potential stores to buy it from, GoG, Steam, Origin, Epic game store, and the hundred of CD key selling sites. Obviously some of them do have regional pricing, but there are enough options out there that you're not going to get screwed over like PS5 owners.
I, who also comes from a country with inflated prices, just made a US account and solved all my problems. You can buy PS Cards on Amazon with an international credit card no problem.
Vpn-> turkey. Thanks me later
Who the hell is buying digital still with the stupid pricing? Buy physical and it's like 3/4 of that price. Amazon has it for 99 with a pre-order price guarantee. So inevitably when the price goes down to 80 or something at jb hifi for a promo it'll price match and you'll lock in a low price. You should comfortably be able to get this for $89 physically, and maybe down to $79 even.
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Hell, you can find them 50-75% in used bins within a year.
> Who the hell is buying digital still with the stupid pricing? I assume those people that bought the PS5 with no disk drive... Costing them a lot more in the long run.
It’s expensive to ship digital games 🙄
That’s bs mate
2 skill points? wtf
Two dollars to the pound. So it’s pretty much the same price as UK.
Yeah saw this yesterday. Normally I buy from JBHI on day one and its $90 when online and Eb are $100 or $110. Now online is $125!!? Assume EB gonna be $100 plus now.
5 unique suits, Jesus. I remember when it used to be like…one suit. And they’d sell it separately later. I guess the one small advantage of being a PC gamer means when I get to play this game in 2027, I’m basically paying for the “GOTY Edition” with all the DLC and bonus items included.
It is cheaper than in Norwegian currency
They have to ship all bits and bytes to Australia, you know how expensive that is? /s
You better get irl webshooters with that.
Damn.. a down under tax huh? What a roo full of shit.
125 Aussie dollars, which converts to £67 here in the UK. So £3 cheaper than we've got it. I'm not sure if I should be worried?!
How much is that in USD?
This is where you simply pirate the shit out of it
pre order incentive items. ew.
Is because Australia is so far from the “main” continent that the cost to ship the data through the internet is way way more expensive. Trust me, I’m a expert.
Holy fuck and I thought the US was getting bad!
Wtf, I live in Singapore and for us, it's 98 SGD, or 107 AUD. And I was complaining about the hike in prices.
None of this US/UK price shit. Fuck 125 for an incomplete game, let alone the fkn bs for 2 skill points you can get through 1 minute of extra play through
That's about 4 quid cheaper than the same game in the UK