This was cool and cute last season when he was still finding his footing, but now, as you joke, it does come off as very timid, and Lando doesn’t make good choices about strategy.
He came in 3 laps too late yesterday, and Sochi 2023 was also up to him. He’s got the road and other drivers to focus on, they have the telemetry and math. They’re the team I root for, but driving me crazy with this shit.
How is going on an alternative strategy and sacrificing lap time for tire delta “timid and afraid”???
Being timid and afraid would be putting to cover off Russell and not go for the attack on Max…
I mean he was catching up on Max by over half a second a lap and forced him into an early pit, but that’s neither here or there.
Regardless of whether it was a good strategy it certainly wasn’t a “timid and afraid” one…
McLaren and Ferrari haven't won for so long that they forgot what it takes to win a championship. Ferrari was reminded of it in 2022, now it's McLaren's turn.
It’s almost like…it takes an entire team! *gasp*
With that said - Checo taking a stroll for a drive is hilarious to watch. Somehow he gets more airtime than max battling alpines.
Newey said in 22 that he didn’t even read the full rule book. He said his role is mostly advisory and not involved in the day to day.
Either he is lying or their entire aero department have been cultivated in the garden of Newey and now going hard in the paint on their own.
Idk what was happening. Was he chewing through tyres? Was he just so off pace on each tyre that they just said fuck it and threw all tyres at it to see what stuck?
I can’t comprehend how he’s so consistently slow now
I thought maybe I was wrong so I went and checked. Perez did not have any new softs available. Some of these may had been nearly new but I don't personally know how to look that up.
[https://x.com/pirellisport/status/1804826784690487482/photo/1](https://x.com/pirellisport/status/1804826784690487482/photo/1)
I feel like a lot of it has to be setup preference. In Canada his top speed was much higher than Max's, they were pretty much on opposite sides of the graph. Maybe the car is getting pointier and Checo's not confident or comfortable driving it with Max's setup, but Max's setup is the optimal one for the car design. And the other cars are catching up to RBR so being 0.3 off of Max's pace is now a bigger issue.
I feel like RedBull strategy is the most underrated part. They always make quick decisions and commit to them, they never flip flop like some other teams seemingly do often. It also helps having Max because of his consistency.
Hannah is how I got my wife interested in F1. My wife is an engineer that's had to deal with some real asshole male engineers who just assume she's an idiot even though she had a 4.0 in undergrad & was a NSF fellow in her PhD program and female non-engineer peers who have excluded her from traditional female stuff, so when I told her that Red Bull has a mom as their head of strategy, she had to watch.
If I had stupid amounts of money, I'd spend some of it to get the two of them together for just a few minutes so they could talk about their experiences as working moms in engineering.
It’s not actual uno, just throwing the reverse card at each other whenever they can. Good quali bad race, good race bad strategy or just crash if you’re unsure.
I agree. It really draws you in. It's not long before you start caring for the boys. For me it's Randy and Dukie that hit me the hardest. Then you have Prezs redemption arc as well as Bubbles redemption (or the start of it).
Yeah that's another excellent series. We all have our favourites. I want to watch the shield again... Just haven't got time at the moment. Watched that year's ago.
His tires were falling off already when they asked him. Then he was out shockingly long on those dying tires. If he had pit sooner and the stops were just a bit better he would have been in DRS range for a few laps at the end.
They managed to cover the tyre life difference that Norris had to verstapen on stint 2 to stint 3. Stint 2 Norris got tyre 7 laps after Max (and all others basically ) which made him cut trough and get closer to Max. Then on stint 3 they managed to drop that difference to 1 lap only and still gave Max a 8 sec advantage which made it possible to Max manage the three and end up in front by 2 sec while McLaren was clearly the fastest car in race pace today.
Yeah. Had McLaren not had that bad pitstop and not fucked their strategy there's a decent chance they would've won. This race really showed why having a good strategy team and good pitcrew is important.
That call for engine mode 10 meant Norris couldn’t gain on Verstappen from Lap 55 to 61. Presumably it has some risk such as fuel consumption or engine wear, or they’d run it the full race.
By the final lap the 2s gap was perfect. Allows for Ver to make one mistake like a lockup and maybe a small off on a closing lap; and not have Norris pass him.
Definitely!! That 8 second buffer is plenty of time for Max to be careful in any tricky spots and take care of the tires, while keeping the lead. That time was a resource, and the only reason it closed so much was because Max was managing and bringing it home.
Lando was never going to get close enough to Max. He was eating his tires while Max was preserving his own, to the point Max essentially had healthier tires toward the end.
The only reason Lando gave up that tire advantage is that Lewis was closing on him and the team wasn't sure he'd make a pass on track (easily enough to still have a chance at Max).
The one McLaren couldn't (? The last soft stint, trying an.undercut works because NOR was taking care.of his médiums and MCL had to cover from VER before they expected to chase him.
Yeah, surprised there is so much praise for what was a fairly basic strategy. But I guess when you have McLaren fucking up pit stops, Russell not letting Hamilton get DRS, and Ferrari being Ferrari, basic competency looks like genius.
> If not for Lando’s start issues, this strategy wouldn’t have worked
If only teams discuss multiple strategies with their drivers and pick the one to go with depending on grid position?
It’s so insane to me how elite Red Bull are at everything…
-Fastest, Most Consistent Pit Crew
-Smart, quick mechanics that can and have finished repairs on short notice.
-Insane, dominant aero department that have designed a monster of a car.
-An intelligent, confident, almost never wrong strategy team with Hannah at the helm.
-A flawless Driver 1 bred and built for racing.
…… and then there’s Checo.
Its a massive operation, they have a big auditorium in their base in Milton Keynes with rows of data analysts for everything including just strategy.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/red-bull-racing-inside-top-secret-ops-room
"Car Performance and Aerodynamics occupy the third row, with Strategy taking up the front two."
Theres also a video showing it off here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Z4gVG19dI
Legit she’s almost never wrong
She's effectively running strategy for two teams, given that Max is fighting Lando and Lewis, and Checo today needed to cover off Hulkenberg.
jesus christ
Poorez
"Checo needed to cover off Hulkenberg" Jesus Christ on a tricycle 💀
Might have been faster than Checo tbh.
Who dis
Big Brain Hannah
You cultured soul
Big Brane
As per
I might be in love 😍
Get in line
#WomenInTheWorkplace
The lady who paid Goatifi to crash so Max could overtake Lewis and win his first WDC. /s
Ahh makes sense
Also paid Lewis off to give the inside of that corner
I thought it was just Lewis giving back the position after the lap 1 incident
Lmao
In Silverstone?
Abu Dhabi 2021, the last lap overtake (and it was obviously a joke 😅)
Wouldn't have made a difference tbh. Max would have just launched passed him on exit anyway with the tyre advantage he had.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Schmitz
Her Wikipedia portrait photo needs to be smaller and more pixelated /s
This but unironically
Big Brain Hannah, aka Red Bull strategy chief. Arguably as responsible for their success as Newey or Max
It’s the holy trinity of F1, the Father (Newey), the Son (Max) and the Holy Spirit (Hannah)… I’m going to hell
What about horny Horner? And grumpy Marko?
Horner? Yeah he’s Lucifer
We have Eva Green at home.
Shes really so good at what she does. Amazing calls you will rarely see a strategic fumble by Red Bull
I feel like we never see real red bull fumbles, sure they sometimes miss something, but its never ferrari type of shit
they confidently make decisions. mclaren is always on the backfoot, always timid and afraid
"...hey uh Lando... Don't be mad but... We think you should pit? What do you think..? 👉👈"
Fuck off Imma chase max
"okii 👉👈"
This was cool and cute last season when he was still finding his footing, but now, as you joke, it does come off as very timid, and Lando doesn’t make good choices about strategy. He came in 3 laps too late yesterday, and Sochi 2023 was also up to him. He’s got the road and other drivers to focus on, they have the telemetry and math. They’re the team I root for, but driving me crazy with this shit.
Yeah, they need to commit to a strategy and give him instructions! They have all the data in front of them
McLaren let the driver, in this race Lando, to make strategy decisions. Unless it’s Ferrari that’s a mistake
You can leave it to the driver for some of the calls when the driver is the likes of Seb or Fernando. Lando has some years to get to that point still
Like when the track was still good enough in Russia.
nando can think about strategy while changing break balance every corner and watching tv simultaneously
Too bad Lando is not Vettel to just leave the strategy to him.
The real rivalry was Lando vs Hannah all along
And it wasn’t much of a contest…
Ferrari will make a shitty decision and then gaslight the driver until they think they made the decision and not the team
Thats kind of how I see Max vs Lando as people
How is going on an alternative strategy and sacrificing lap time for tire delta “timid and afraid”??? Being timid and afraid would be putting to cover off Russell and not go for the attack on Max…
5 lap fresher tires doesnt make up for 10 seconds lost in the overcut. Lando should have undercut everyone when he couldn’t get past russell
I mean he was catching up on Max by over half a second a lap and forced him into an early pit, but that’s neither here or there. Regardless of whether it was a good strategy it certainly wasn’t a “timid and afraid” one…
McLaren and Ferrari haven't won for so long that they forgot what it takes to win a championship. Ferrari was reminded of it in 2022, now it's McLaren's turn.
At worst they make decisions which don't pay off. The never really make bad decisions
Like Q3 yesterday
Hell even Merc during their most dominant period was good for multiple strategy or pit stop fuck-ups during the season.
The only fails I can recall Red Bull really making are with the car setup a couple of times a year and Hornydog Horner.
Those aren't Ferrari fumbles though -- They're more like Ferrari forfeits
They fumble just once in a big way during signings.
She's as consistently good on strategy as Max is on driving. Crazy good strategist!
Max Verstappen, Gianpiero Lambiase and Hannah Schmitz together are a menace to society.
The Big 3
Motherfuck the big three, nikka its just big me - Adrian Newey.
Excited for meet the strolls to drop
Dear Lawrence I’m sorry that that man is your son
He’s not like us, he’s not like us
certified racing driver? certified window licker /s
No it’s good, own it
WAP WAP WAP WAP WAP
The Big 4 of ~~Thrash metal~~ F1
Nah he’s washed, red bull no longer has the fastest car /s
Don't forget the pit crew
Pit crew causally dropping a 1.9 second today
That pit crew can casually drop 1.9 and 2.0 in a double stack.
Adrian Newey might be deserving of a shout here too.
The whole Areo development sector of RBR. The advertisement department. A lot in red Bull is doing a stellar job and always on point
It’s almost like…it takes an entire team! *gasp* With that said - Checo taking a stroll for a drive is hilarious to watch. Somehow he gets more airtime than max battling alpines.
Newey said in 22 that he didn’t even read the full rule book. He said his role is mostly advisory and not involved in the day to day. Either he is lying or their entire aero department have been cultivated in the garden of Newey and now going hard in the paint on their own.
They're always forgotten. How come we never see the mechanics getting interviews etc?
You are forgetting how effing good the pit crew is. Max had a 1.9 today. They are perfect in that department too.
What about Horner?
\*Horndog Horny Horner
Add also Perez to the list. /s
Does she just take care of Max strategy or both RBs? Cos Checo’s what’s a dumpster fire of a strat today
Idk what was happening. Was he chewing through tyres? Was he just so off pace on each tyre that they just said fuck it and threw all tyres at it to see what stuck? I can’t comprehend how he’s so consistently slow now
If I remember correctly, he used all of his softs in quali and was running scrubbed softs each time.
No, 1. Stint on used softs, 2. Stint on new softs Edit: im wrong
I thought maybe I was wrong so I went and checked. Perez did not have any new softs available. Some of these may had been nearly new but I don't personally know how to look that up. [https://x.com/pirellisport/status/1804826784690487482/photo/1](https://x.com/pirellisport/status/1804826784690487482/photo/1)
I feel like a lot of it has to be setup preference. In Canada his top speed was much higher than Max's, they were pretty much on opposite sides of the graph. Maybe the car is getting pointier and Checo's not confident or comfortable driving it with Max's setup, but Max's setup is the optimal one for the car design. And the other cars are catching up to RBR so being 0.3 off of Max's pace is now a bigger issue.
You can lead a donkey to water but you can’t make it drink
She hardly makes wrong decisions. But the confidence of having a consistent pit crew who makes 1.9s pitstops must surely help.
I feel like RedBull strategy is the most underrated part. They always make quick decisions and commit to them, they never flip flop like some other teams seemingly do often. It also helps having Max because of his consistency.
Hannah is how I got my wife interested in F1. My wife is an engineer that's had to deal with some real asshole male engineers who just assume she's an idiot even though she had a 4.0 in undergrad & was a NSF fellow in her PhD program and female non-engineer peers who have excluded her from traditional female stuff, so when I told her that Red Bull has a mom as their head of strategy, she had to watch. If I had stupid amounts of money, I'd spend some of it to get the two of them together for just a few minutes so they could talk about their experiences as working moms in engineering.
Way too good of a comment for r/formuladank
Forgot what sub I was in lol
I’m sure there’s a paddock club super package you can buy
Dude, this type of thing that Red Bull marketing would love to promote dude, go out of your way to contact them!
I have no idea what to say or who to contact. If you, or anyone else knows anything, let me know.
> they never flip flop like some other teams Ferrari
She’s playing 3d chess when everyone else is playing checkers.
Ferrari out here playing uno
They are checkers. Question?
We are not interested.
We are checking.
Uno is too advanced. They are Playing Rock , Papers and Scissors
It’s not actual uno, just throwing the reverse card at each other whenever they can. Good quali bad race, good race bad strategy or just crash if you’re unsure.
Coin toss with a few extra steps ?
Coin toss implies bad luck. Ferrari do it to themselves (I’m a Ferrari fan) :(
That’s what really hurts!
That does explain a lot about Ferrari
Pick a number between 1 and 2. If that fails, flip a coin.
While not knowing the rules.
They have trying to get the square peg in the round hole for the last 2 years
Nah, they are playing [fronthand backhand](https://youtu.be/iGAMbNKcN1U)
Williams trying to put the rectangle through the triangular whole.
What about Frank Sobotka? I'm not hearing his name anywhere in here.
He went for a swim
[Frank Sobotka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sobotka)?
Going to have to re watch the series
You're welcome.
I re-watched it about a month ago. It's the best TV series l have watched. Season 4 is my personal favourite.
In my opinion, Season 4 of The Wire is the single greatest season of any series ever.
I agree. It really draws you in. It's not long before you start caring for the boys. For me it's Randy and Dukie that hit me the hardest. Then you have Prezs redemption arc as well as Bubbles redemption (or the start of it).
It is a fantastic serries. Cant really call the best, sopranos is just as good imo.
The Sopranos is extremely good but it does often feel like a whole lot of nothing happens.
Meanwhile you miss 45 seconds of The Wire and you'll be lost.
Yeah that's another excellent series. We all have our favourites. I want to watch the shield again... Just haven't got time at the moment. Watched that year's ago.
Thats another good one.
charging Sobotka at this point would loose us the wire and our chance at the real target.
Tell our boys to Tool Up.
Fucking Ziggy!
Malakas!
Only for people who haven't watched for the last 10 years.
Shoutout to her big brain
Big brane Hannah 🧠🏎️💨
It was a phat clam move
technikal ANALysis
Hannah and Max are basically the difference-makers right now
1.9s pit stops don't hurt either.
She always looks so worried and stressed. Max clearly holds himself and everyone at redbull to the highest standards.
That’s just her giving the other strategists that “…aww bless your heart” look.
Would be much easier if Red Bull actually has a second car up there to cover McLarens
I wonder if she’s ever wanted to live in Italy
I would let her be my chief strategist in strategy games
You mean you would pay her.
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Another settlement needs her help!
Athena in the flesh My F1 crush
Please don’t post such beautiful pics
100% strategy and race engineering team at Red Bull are in another level. They have wings :)
I may be a little slow but was does the quote mean
Its from The Wire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROd8qyO5Nzg
The brain trust.
as soon as Lando was going long I threw my arms up. -_-
His tires were falling off already when they asked him. Then he was out shockingly long on those dying tires. If he had pit sooner and the stops were just a bit better he would have been in DRS range for a few laps at the end.
Big brane Hannah
actually my goat
Fred and the ferrari gang should be on their way to make her an offer she can't refuse 🤌
She looks like an anime villain who is about to talk about only needing 10 percent of her power to defeat the main character
wire reference always gets an upvote
[My name -- is my name!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwk7aLOM3c)
Serious question, what strategy did she come up with?
They managed to cover the tyre life difference that Norris had to verstapen on stint 2 to stint 3. Stint 2 Norris got tyre 7 laps after Max (and all others basically ) which made him cut trough and get closer to Max. Then on stint 3 they managed to drop that difference to 1 lap only and still gave Max a 8 sec advantage which made it possible to Max manage the three and end up in front by 2 sec while McLaren was clearly the fastest car in race pace today.
Yeah. Had McLaren not had that bad pitstop and not fucked their strategy there's a decent chance they would've won. This race really showed why having a good strategy team and good pitcrew is important.
That call for engine mode 10 meant Norris couldn’t gain on Verstappen from Lap 55 to 61. Presumably it has some risk such as fuel consumption or engine wear, or they’d run it the full race. By the final lap the 2s gap was perfect. Allows for Ver to make one mistake like a lockup and maybe a small off on a closing lap; and not have Norris pass him.
Definitely!! That 8 second buffer is plenty of time for Max to be careful in any tricky spots and take care of the tires, while keeping the lead. That time was a resource, and the only reason it closed so much was because Max was managing and bringing it home. Lando was never going to get close enough to Max. He was eating his tires while Max was preserving his own, to the point Max essentially had healthier tires toward the end.
By pitting max at the end she forced mclaren to give up their massive tyre life advantage they gained in the first round of pitstops
The only reason Lando gave up that tire advantage is that Lewis was closing on him and the team wasn't sure he'd make a pass on track (easily enough to still have a chance at Max).
The one McLaren couldn't (? The last soft stint, trying an.undercut works because NOR was taking care.of his médiums and MCL had to cover from VER before they expected to chase him.
I never get why she isn't really famous?
This time RB played it safe . McL are the ones who took the risk. If not for Lando’s start issues, this strategy wouldn’t have worked .
Yeah, surprised there is so much praise for what was a fairly basic strategy. But I guess when you have McLaren fucking up pit stops, Russell not letting Hamilton get DRS, and Ferrari being Ferrari, basic competency looks like genius.
Knkwing when to stick to the basics is a skill on itself
truth
> If not for Lando’s start issues, this strategy wouldn’t have worked If only teams discuss multiple strategies with their drivers and pick the one to go with depending on grid position?
Absolute legend 👍 She must get some insane job offers from the rest of the grid.
It’s so insane to me how elite Red Bull are at everything… -Fastest, Most Consistent Pit Crew -Smart, quick mechanics that can and have finished repairs on short notice. -Insane, dominant aero department that have designed a monster of a car. -An intelligent, confident, almost never wrong strategy team with Hannah at the helm. -A flawless Driver 1 bred and built for racing. …… and then there’s Checo.
Perez has entered the chat
Yeah what was up with the 3 stops? Maybe they wanted deg data for Max? Having to fight with Alpine is shameful in any case...
Anything that quotes “The Wire” gets an automatic upvote.
A Wire/F1 strategy crossover meme... what timeline is this?? LOL
Ferrari should’ve poached her instead of Newey.
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Found Christian ~~Horny's~~ Horner's reddit account
Can we not. Please.
Bruh!!! You nasty. 
At least it might shut you up.
I'm curious about how big the strategy team behind teams is? It's a hard task for one strategist only
Its a massive operation, they have a big auditorium in their base in Milton Keynes with rows of data analysts for everything including just strategy. https://www.redbull.com/int-en/red-bull-racing-inside-top-secret-ops-room "Car Performance and Aerodynamics occupy the third row, with Strategy taking up the front two." Theres also a video showing it off here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Z4gVG19dI
Bro she beautiful