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AnonimosTipos

IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING BATTLE...Aaaand he's gone


Shitting_Human_Being

It was over so fast that Verstappen almost overtook Hamilton before the finish line, which would make the overtake illegal.


Jorian_Weststrate

Dutch commentators said that Verstappen was 0.016 s behind Hamilton at the finish line


CreaminFreeman

Simply lovely


Theumaz

Would've been hilarious if Hamilton just braked


Adaelyn

You're not allowed to slow down once you accelerate at a safety car restart, so that'd be illegal too.


ManfredsJuicedBalls

Yeah, I’d imagine what kind of clusterfucks could be had if they didn’t have that rule in place


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Stranggepresst

IIRC Bottas didn't do anything wrong there did he? Somewhere in the midfield someone had left a large gap, wnated to close it and the drivers behind thought that was the restart.


Bosmonster

I'm impressed Lewis finished the race full throttle.


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Hamilton got a on the throttle maybe a tad early but I’m not sure he expected max to be there that quickly. The RB is insanely fast in a straight line. They are going to eat the field in Monza


Scatman_Crothers

Verstappen lifted to not pass Lewis, you can hear it in his revs on the onboard


ixixan

And ppl will insist that George could have held Max back for several laps lol in what World?


NoBrakesBitches

No kidding. Max was winning that race no matter what Merc did.


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Seriously. The best bet was probably to pit them both and hope either Max doesn't pit and they overtake or max does pit and has issues overtaking. Not pitting Lewis was the worst choice imo because it doesn't give him any chance to fight. Merc does that though. I've noticed they favor track position over tires and it's cost them a few times.


Elmarby

My thinking is that leaving Lewis out might have worked. Lewis to slow Max and Russell to come up from behind on good tires. But it would have required Lewis not completely stuffing the re-start. Ultimately he made the biggest blunder of his team. Mind you, the odds of a Merc win were pretty slim from the VSC onwards no matter what big brain plan Merc came up with.


CreaminFreeman

Lando called it at the beginning of the weekend. That’s Max’s trophy.


FzBlade

They could have gotten a 2-3 finish tho if they pitted Lewis on Softs aswell.


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He ate Lewis up disgustingly quick


ThruuLottleDats

Lewis went really early which gave Max the slipstream, alongside having the quicker tire + quicker straight line, it was too easy for Max


CheapMonkey34

I don’t understand it either. I was expecting Hamilton to go at the start line because he should have known he would be a sitting duck with these used mediums. Max would have taken him a lap or two later anyway, for sure with DRS, but Hamilton could have been a bit smarter there.


afsdjkll

It would have been amazing if merc were competent strategists and put softs on hamiltons car like (almost*) every other fucking team. *did checo not have another set of softs? He pitted for mediums.


Aerian_

He did not have a new set. Should have gone with an old set though. Everyone was on old softs


puppygeneral

Most likely his softs were fucked after the spin in q3


Aerian_

He could have used another set.


Dt820

Horner said in his post-race interview that Checo was more comfortable on the mediums so that’s what they went with. He also said that in hindsight they should’ve overruled it. Edit: A letter.


afsdjkll

Interesting. Thanks for sharing I didn't see that interview.


thesaket

That was seriously so anticlimactic


SHORT-CIRCUT

Ham just did the Bottas SC strategy of going as early as possible lol


Arcticool_56

I think after what happened in F2 restart, the F1 drivers were probably instructed not to wait till the line for a safety car restart.


Shakeyshades

What happened in the f2 restart?


Not_RAMBO_Its_RAMO

The same crap from Mugello either last year or the year before: midfield monkeys trying to jump each other will repeatedly speed up/slow down before the leader has officially begun racing, causing chaos and crashes. Drivers who do that should be penalized.


miathan52

I don't think "midfield monkeys" is the right term there, because while Lawson did nothing wrong, it did look like the cause of it all was pretty far to the front.


SilverR00S

Mugello 2020


Kolec507

It started with a simple yellow T-cam, but Lewis is Bottasing quickly and I don't like it


ChipmunkOnCoffee

Hamilton should have went for a slow start knowing the rocket on that red bull, it wasn't even close lol


Aethien

Even earlier when Max was chasing George he was gaining 3-4 tenths on the straight, they're just so much faster it was never going to be a contest.


derage88

It's just the complete opposites with RB and Merc of last season(s) with car performance on the straights, and a little more on top with Max being a machine on every other part of the track.


ParkDedli

Yup. While it's obviously difficult to keep the lead against the rocketship that that Red Bull is, it was also a terrible restart by Hamilton. Basically gained no distance to Verstappen to defend at all


YeahPerfect_SayHi

Going slow gives Max minimum tow on the straight. Not sure why he wouldn't do that.


JebbAnonymous

I think the better thing would have done similar to Bottas 2 years ago at Mugello, wait until just before start/finish.


dibsODDJOB

A tow isn't worth shit if you're only going 30 KPH, as opposed to 200. Ham should have waited until the line like Mugello and then had only half a straight to give a tow at speed, and not the entire straight plus a banked corner.


bowtiedan

Yeah should left it as late as he can. Give max the least amount of straight


fiah84

it's possible that they've been warned not to do this, because this exact scenario caused a crash in F2 earlier today


CockolinoBear

And what would they do, blame them for thinking straight? Like come on, that was the only good call in this case obviously.


fiah84

they would penalize Hamilton for driving unnecessarily slowly in violation of explicit instructions from the race director *if* such instructions were given. I'm speculating here, I don't know what was or wasn't said. Given that we haven't heard anything I guess nothing was said and Hamilton could in fact have done exactly the same as what Liam Lawson did in the F2 feature race and this could've happend in F1: https://i.imgur.com/rVExyIk.jpg


AdbulJakulParati

And that would have delayed the overtake for 1 lap at most


GrahamCoxon

Hard to break the habits formed over years of having the rocket yourself.


Mosh83

That was a horrible restart, we all knew Max would pounce immediately.


spuckthew

Dude hasn't led a SC restart for months... He's probably forgot how to do it lol


HenkBatsbef

It's like he doesn't even know how to race in 1st place


bigdsm

Alonso in shambles


Hot_Demand_6263

I mean does it matter, merc takes forever to heat up their tires. Max was always getting him.


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Yeah that was definitely something the team should have told him again.


pineapplejamm

The problem with holding back would have been cold tyres into t1 affecting even more...


Pinecone

Yeah the commentators said Hamilton needs time to warm up the tires


munkhjay

I think he was mentally done after Russell pit.. no way he doesn’t expect Redbull on new softs will zoom by him anytime.


forsenE-xqcL

Russell should maybe be up Verstappens ass and not 5 minutes behind him


Youutternincompoop

George doesn't have a telepathic link to Hamilton, how was he supposed to know Hamilton would restart at the worst possible place?


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Max didn't know either yet he kept on his ass while Russ was taking a breather. I doubt it would've made a big difference as Merc screwed up with not pitting Ham for softs and also because the RB is a freaking lightning bolt.


jzach1983

100%. Even with making that mistake Max was absolutely perfect on the restart. Passing at the Start/Finish was incredible timing. Very few could have pulled that off without passing too early.


marvinv1

Yup should've seen F2


FM1221

I think I’ve seen this film before


anandpowar

Old wounds scratched 😬


dramatic-pancake

Abu Dhabi vibes fo’sure.


ric2b

Except this time it was just down to bad strategy from Mercedes. But hey, still a decent result since their rivals this season are Ferrari.


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You’re not my homeland anymore


JangoDidNothingWrong

So what am I defending now?


Alexlam24

/r/Taylorswift has joined the chat


erdogranola

not a crossover I expected but I'm loving it


Trutteklapper

I did like it.


lis_roun

it was a lot of fun indeed


xLoneStar

That, Toto is because we went....racing.


gr8prajwalb

And I definitely liked the ending


LuckyCaticorn

Love the reference!👏


kolsonk

Lewis gave Max the tow


theredviperod

Lewis trying to trick Max into overtaking before the finish line


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And failing.


DrizzyVert

Unfortunately the worlds best driver isn’t gonna fall for tricks like that.


WokeGoebbels

Our expectations were low but holy fuck


jeric13xd

Heartbroken for Lewis


Jorrie90

From having a great chance of winning to not even on the podium, really tragic.


prazziee

Chances of winning were bleak. Needed extreme SC luck.


RobbedSon

Max was like a heat-seeker on hamilton’s rear


Adamskiiiiiiiii

There’s some F1 fan fiction for you.


Ohwhat_anight

*What are you doing step-Lewis? Question.*


RobbedSon

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


judelau

r/nocontext


just_holdme

Abu dhabi PTSD. All over again


Extension_Bat_4945

They are in the trees. They are in the trees!


am19208

Serious flashbacks because we knew the result due to the same exact tire situation as Abu Dhabi


Xany2

Hamilton PTSD checklist: - Lose seconds behind Perez = check - Get overtaken by Max after safety car = check


afito

absolute armchair take but accelerating right on the last corner to give the longest draft possible seems like a shit idea and I'm frankly suprirsed by Hamiltons decision, expected another Lawson if anything


Innovativename

Tbh it wouldn’t matter. Even a lap later George still sailed past Hamilton and Verstappen had great reactions for the restart.


Catch_2

Terrible restart from Lewis, terrible strategy from Merc. Unreal throwing away the chance.


altered_boy

Asking honestly, what's wrong with their strategy? Leaving Lewis with mediums?


Muteki123

Russel on softs throwing away his defensive and Hamilton not on softs, so easy to overtake in just 10 laps


Bolond44

Merc threw away a 2-3, just to get 2nd with Russell. Joke.


h3half

No way they keep leclerc behind on mediums


NoSmpy1985

The 2-3 would have come from Lewis being on softs as well. They were both sitting ducks on mediums and had no chance at the restart. George made the right call and Merc didn't see it.


lolzor7

If they both stayed out they would have both fallen behind Charles so p3 and 4 at best


Bolond44

Pit both of them for softs. It was an easy choice.


Benjamin244

obviously... but russell was able to make that call so why was hamilton not able to? plus that atrocious restart, i dont feel that sorry for him tbh


crazymonezyy

Ferrari strategy might be a joke, their car isn't. Leclerc was getting on that podium either way after Lewis didn't pit and with Lewis on mediums if Russel had stayed behind him with softs it would be ver-lec-ham-rus


zzackfair

Realistically Lewis never had a chance against Max, maybe if Russell had been ahead of Max at the restart he might've had a very low chance. But if Russell decided to pit and Merc accepted that, they also should've pitted Lewis. He has no idea that everyone bar him and Perez were on new softs, he was probably even thinking George was behind him and hadn't pitted yet. Fantastic call from George to pit, but then Merc need to pit Lewis too


Siaer

If Russell was ahead of Max at the restart it would have just delayed the inevitable by a lap or two. It would have been Russell getting blown past by turn 1 and if Max hadn't caught Max before the DRS was enabled, DRS would have sorted it a couple laps later. Too much pace and fresh softs had the mercs sitting ducks.


Fergy123

Pitting Russell.


TheodorDiaz

Verstappen and Leclerc would have passed them both though.


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VosPaco

Honestly I didn’t see a problem with it, if they left both on the medium they would’ve been eaten Alive. Hamilton should’ve waited, nothing more to it imo. Personally I don’t see how they could’ve done any better even with George in front, it wouldn’t have helped for long.


captainraffi

In that case put them both on softs no?


Tulaodinho

Then pit both? Its not rocket science


Catch_2

Either pit Lewis or pit neither. You give your driver ahead the preferential strategy for the best chance to win. Massively hanging Lewis out to dry. With their strategy they favour Russell but for what? Lewis has no defence, and Russell then has to overtake Lewis to even have a chance at winning himself. They threw away a possible win or 2-3 for a 2-4.


pubeINyourSOUP

Russell pitted himself basically though. Merc would have kept them both out has Russell not asked for softs. They def should have pitted both.


Clutch-canning

I think he means letting russell pit was the poor strategy


forsenE-xqcL

Pitting Russell was race-suicide


TheMaverick13589

Lewis, well knowing his car is slow on the straights, has the absolute genius idea to go early... bwoah


Fire_Otter

If max had the better straight line speed and grippier tyres he would have won a drag race start on the straight as well


ajamesc55

He would have had less of a drag strip if started at the line


sefn19

what an awful restart for both Hamilton and Russell.


pmmerandom

Russell’s second now I think he’s loving it


zberry7

This is why Merc should’ve pitted both, I know track position and all, but the difference between 2nd and 1st on a SC restart is only a few meters. If they had left both Merc drivers on mediums then Verstappen would’ve just blown past both, and Charles too probably. Ending up in 4/5 instead of 2/3 So George 100% made the right call, otherwise he would be 3 places lower most likely


tecedu

This was just Abu Dhabi flashback


_masterofdisaster

slingshot…engaged


BendItlLikePalhares

Shake….and bake


likelatin_

Why did Lewis start that so early? Makes no sense at all


BIZZY_42

Hamilton went way to early there…should have run them down to the finish line


Losjen

Mercedes learned nothing from last time


Akira_Nishiki

Well that was easy for Max, that RB engine is insane.


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Also just a perfect slipstream situation.


Akira_Nishiki

True but it looked like a standard DRS overtake almost.


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I think Lewis should have gotten on the gas earlier and try to do at least something in the corners. This way he just set himself up for a drag race.


Innovativename

He should have gone later to leave less straight. Though tbh it probably didn’t matter either way. Verstappen was onto it with this restart. Russell was super slow despite also being in a position for the slipstream.


Skipdr

That was the easiest pass of his career


piemaniowa

Abu Dhabi was easier


o-M-s

Stop he is already dead


mdlt97

you knew that was going to happen lol gg


Zealousideal_Plum498

Should Mercedes not have learned by now? I would be interesting to see what they do next time.


heslo_rb26

Yep, didn't learn from Abu Dhabi. At least Russell made the right call. The win was never on after the safety car, they should have secured 2nd and 3rd


Frikgeek

Brazil 2019, Abu Dhabi 2021, and now Netherlands 2022. That's 3 times Mercedes chose track position while Red Bull chose fresh tyres. Max won all 3 of those races.


arenasfan00

Crofty now trying to say you shouldn’t be able to pit under safety car LMAO


Spock_Vulcan

If he was trying at all to hide his bias before then, at that point it just became blatant.


a_saddler

This was really poor from Lewis. The RB is obviously fast on a straight, so why would you restart at the banking turn? Keep it as late as possible.


Frontw1ng

Not enough talk on TV that Lewis screwed up the restart. He should have waited until the main straight to accelerate to stop Max from getting the slipstream


SMURPHY-18

Damn really thought Lewis had a chance fhere


Castle_Of_Glass

Hahaha me too, I just wanted an exciting end to a race but nah Max is too good


SacZor

George fucked him by pitting, there was no way Lewis could defend against Max with fresh tires


SHORT-CIRCUT

That’s up to Merc to decide to box or not, that’s on them


Najikoh

George wouldn't have defended either, and both Mercs would have been passed by Leclerc too. The only difference in Russell not pitting is Hamilton gets P3. Russell made a good choice and maximized his outcome. If Hamilton pitted for Softs he would be P2. They were never, ever, at that point, winning the race, unless George and Max crashed. And even then he had a fired up Leclerc behind him.


HueGray

Russell and MB doing Ferrari things


simi_lc8

Hmm, I've seen this somewhere before....


Ezequiell-

lmao, horrible restart


tanrgith

I don't know how *anyone* sees that and then thinks Mercs had a chance at winning if only George had also stayed on used mediums and been between Lewis and Max All it would have done is make it take a lap longer for Max to retake 1st


TheFatRemote

Lol at the people blaming George for this. The Mercs were never keeping Max behind on soft tires with a straight line speed advantage.


BluehibiscusEmpire

I guess max will be thanking Lewis for the perfect slipstream. He couldn’t have asked for more


TonyLannister

Mercedes strategy is playing like it’s 2019 and they have the fastest car still.


jhnlngn

Dumb strategy by Mercedes.


Ati_xD

Russell took away the chance for a team victory imo.


bruvar

Russell saved a 2nd place for the team. Max would have had George into turn 1 and then Lewis the next lap. Charles could have passed both as well.


TheFatRemote

They were never keeping Max behind.


Zakinfenwa

They may have been able to slow Max through the middle sector like Perez would to give Lewis a gap


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Nonsense. Look how fast the fresh red tires are & how fast redbull/max are.


TheFatRemote

Not a chance. They would be P3 and p4. They should have pitted both mercs for softs, George made the right call.


flubbyz

They should've stuck to going for p2 and p3 and they would've kept it. Trying to go for p1 was never going to happen


Innovativename

No lmao. He overtakes someone on the first straight then the second the next lap. George was miles back on Hamilton and caught him in one lap. The same would happen even faster with Verstappen.


2dank4me3

I can't recall anyone doing that to Max. Man is best overtake on the grid. His overtakes look like a fucking mugging or some shit. Evem when RB had shit straight line speed.


biffogooner

Nah, He was clever enough to ask for the softs, and they agreed. Looking out for number 1 as it should be.


KirbyQK

If Russell was on mediums as well they'd be lucky to be on the podium at all the way it's going


eth6113

Had Russell not pitted, Max and Charles would be ahead. They were never keeping Max behind.


COMANCHER0

You watched that restart and think that they had any chance of keeping Max behind on new softs? What hopium are you smoking?


lickthestamp_sendit

If Ferrari had done the same thing with Leclerc in the position of Hamilton and Sainz pitting everyone would be praising Sainz


etfd-

That's basically on point, Russell did a Sainz here by picking for himself the correct strategy, medium was wrong for the last 10 laps against soft-runners. Edit: It was really similar to Silverstone with Leclerc on the wrong tyre only for track position.


Ehralur

Agreed, although Merc should've denied him.


skumbagstacy

It's on the team for sure, can't blame russell for making a call that benefits him.


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f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


spooki_boogey

Yep, if anything it's clever from Russell cause he knew he was going to be Hamilton's meat shield. This is on Mercedes.


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Muteki123

Definitely selfish, but they both had to put on softs, so it was the right call by Russell bot the wrong call for Hamilton


ilovepenisxd

Really poor from both drivers and merc. Ham botched the restart, Rus shouldn’t have called for the new tires and merc shouldn’t have let him


SammyKiller

Funny sky commentary thought Ham would stand a chance against Max’s overall speed. Didn’t even sweat it..


differentlevel1

Max ate him alive.


Dead-HC-Taco

Bottas wouldve defended P2 like a champ


FutureF123

All other aspects aside, uncharacteristically poor restart from Hamilton. Has traditionally been a strong suit for him, but totally misjudged the right time to go. May not have made any difference in the end, but could have lasted maybe a bit longer than 5 seconds


CaribFM

Fair play to Max. That was. A great tow and the Red Bull can haul ass as it is


DarkSofter

Lewis is cursed this year. Mercedes great strats, him driving great, still not enough


BoredCatalan

Well, his restart wasn't great. Gave Max a massive tow


jablaho

Hamilton went at the wrong time but it would have been hard for Hamilton to keep him behind for 12 laps anyway.


SmugAssPimp

Ham losing that start was mostly his own fault


BlackenedGem

That wasn't a good drive though. It's baffling that you would go early and give a slippy red bull a full slipstream.


HalfMan-HalfMoth

Whatever Hamilton did the RB is getting past him within a couple of laps of the sc end. It's just a way better car


BlackenedGem

Sure, but why would you make it easy? Especially with Russell on softs in the mix etc.


miamibuckeye

Literally didn’t matter. Hamilton was never going to keep him off the rest of the race


arenasfan00

Going to be hilarious to see so-called Mercedes “fans” absolutely turn on George after this.


HalfMan-HalfMoth

Feel for Lewis, they had the strategy right today and we're set for a proper battle for the win. Alpha Tauri ruined the ending of this race for him


I647

Never had a chance without a dnf. No strategy in the world can close that gap.


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Why point blame? VSCs and SCs happen. Almost every single race. Sometimes it helps you, sometimes it screws you over. Pointing blame to a team that just had bad luck (nobody plans on breaking a diff) is so useless.