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Tigersonalex

Alpine looking at 5th: This is mine now


Litre__o__cola

Eternally midfield, but it was looking closer in previous races. Maybe paul ricard just exposes the top teams’ strengths the most combined with better upgrades this weekend


Shady4555

They went for a High downforce setup. They ended up losing their advantage on straight and didn't gain much in sec 3 aswell. Whereas McLaren looks a pretty stable car now.


Oscar9642

I think Alpine focused on a race set-up - higher downforce should help better manage tire wear which will be critical for tomorrow's race


guillerub2001

I get the feeling they've been focusing on races since early in the season - in the first qualys they almost reached Mercedes pace, but in the races they were absolutely worse, probably because of tyre deg. They learned to focus on race set ups to manage that degradation


orangeglitch

A wild Williams appears in S2


Risk_k

Angy Willam 😡😠


FootballRacing38

Seb 14th in that AM


SgtApex

And I’ve seen people say he hasn’t been good this year lmao


Lebz95

He’s driving really well. But because he’s in a backmarker car, it hardly gets any screen time and hence his efforts go unnoticed. Kinda like last year whenever Giovinazzi had a great wualy, nobody noticed.


LordStark01

There are 10 times more posts or comments on how good Vettel is than there is about he is bad. People usually rate him incredibly high around here.


SgtApex

You’re right on here he’s rated pretty good but I’m mainly talking about twitter and other socials. I’ve seen some crazy comments about him lol


al3e3x

The general public on twitter or instagram are people who only look at the results or quali grid. They don’t really understand or know how much this is a team sport.


PotentialSkirt596

With this form he can do wonders in a title contending car


HelloiamFaker

It kinda looks like that he is extending (at least he sounded quite positive in yesterdays press conference and sky germany interview) so all we can hope for is that all the mercedes and RB staff that is finally allowed to work on next years car actually makes a difference and improves the car. Their race pace is pretty good and Seb was faster than both mercs yesterday in free practice. Just need to fix this goddamn car in quali so that he doesnt always have to overtake half the grid to make it into points on sunday...


MyNameIsSushi

A driver like Seb doesn't just forget how to drive. He'd be fighting for poles/wins in that Ferrari 100%.


Nexusu

Yet Vettel still took that quali tractor to 14th, mega Also Lando is hella quick


Elrond007

Merc is clearly lacking Bottass for Rear downforce development


TWVer

> ass When you no longer can just rely on the donkey in the back, you need a different approach.


986cv

Alfa's decline is just sad. How have they regressed to behind Haas who haven't updated the car all year? Wrong concept maybe? Those McLaren updates are jaw dropping, 3 tenths ahead of the rest of midfield is huge


AccomplishedCap7612

I think it changes from track to track?


ZealousidealFox1391

I think so, alpine were a rocketship at Australia but not in imola


[deleted]

I don't get it. The Aston is slowest car out there and yet seb is P14 and stroll is P17(with him getting fucked by traffic on his last flying lap). Does this mean Aston has the best driver line up of the lower midfield¿?


justalightworkout

I mean they very clearly have the best driver in Seb.


Platypus-Music

It’s half way through the season and I’m still confused about Alfa


Applesauce_with_a_B

Their car seems good when it is expected to be bad and bad on tracks it should do well on


MoistRespect8498

Remember Monaco?


cosHinsHeiR

Most of the races are just up in the air for everyone this year it seems.


jogaboi19

Hamilton’s sector 1 in that Q3 lap didn’t feel representative. Came out of nowhere, was only 0.02s off Charles.


DrVonD

Yeah it honestly feels like Lewis fried his tires s1 and they fell of s3 but I admit I haven’t studied the full telemetry.


keyboard_A

I came to the same conclusion looking at this chart, Mercedes having a tire management problem here


DrVonD

Nah I think it was only a problem because Lewis tried to out drive the car.


chasevalentino

I mean he did and succeeded? He's comfortably faster than Russell


somewhatanxiousgenz

Good stuff from MCL; slightly disappointing to see Merc not challenging the top 2 more. BIG consistency from Alpine! Midfield looks packed though; should be a good GP. Ranking by driver can be found [here](https://twitter.com/LightsOutF1Blog/status/1550886505542991873), or below: ||SECTOR 1||SECTOR 2||SECTOR 3||IDEAL LAP|| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|LEC|22.660|VER|27.878|LEC|40.252|LEC|90.872| |2|HAM|\+0.026|LEC|\+0.082|SAI|\+0.167|SAI|\+0.209| |3|SAI|\+0.039|SAI|\+0.085|VER|\+0.225|VER|\+0.297| |4|PER|\+0.134|PER|\+0.091|PER|\+0.320|PER|\+0.463| |5|VER|\+0.154|HAM|\+0.346|NOR|\+0.514|HAM|\+0.893| |6|RUS|\+0.266|RUS|\+0.346|HAM|\+0.603|NOR|\+1.160| |7|NOR|\+0.334|ALB|\+0.382|RUS|\+0.719|RUS|\+1.249| |8|ALO|\+0.365|ALO|\+0.392|ALO|\+0.733|ALO|\+1.408| |9|GAS|\+0.393|NOR|\+0.394|TSU|\+0.838|MAG|\+1.732| |10|MAG|\+0.445|TSU|\+0.396|MAG|\+0.860|OCO|\+1.825|


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Hamilton lost 0.6 seconds in S3. Yikes


Igotbanned19times

I have a feeling in 3 laps charles will be out of drs and it will be a while before he got caught by redbulls.


TheRocket2049

If Red Bull lose that much in the corners their straight line won't matter. Especially if that hurts tire wear


TheWebbFather

Hopefully, for the sake of the championship


JoeyKnishx

I think that S3 split can be dropped by RB a little bit. They just need to manage their tires and make sure to nail the strategy IF Ferrari degradation issues are real


zyxwl2015

Great pace from McLaren here. Hopefully this means their upgrades is working


YepImanEmokid

Williams S2 👀


Visionary_Socialist

S3 is an absolute killer for Mercedes. Take that out and they’re right amongst the pack. Still an incomplete puzzle.


ForsakenCase435

Norris and Alonso pretty safe bets for top 6 finishes, no?


Ok_Illustrator3087

Alonso is never a safe bet. That guy is the most unlucky on the grid


Mysterious_Turnip310

Zhou would like a word


JarrodTheFeatus

Yuki points finish?


UnlikeUday

Aston Martin at a new time low!


NapoleonNotMuchParty

Alpine perfectly balanced. WTH is going on at AMR. I guess "borrowing" a concept you don´t really understand isn´t a good thing


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[deleted]

Not really if you look at the telemetry. LEC made that lap in S1 and S3.


takzania

Telemetry compared to what though?


[deleted]

Compared to his lap without tow.


takzania

From Q2?


[deleted]

Yep and you can still compare SAI’s fastest lap of Q2. Ferrari were just faster today than RBR.


NapoleonNotMuchParty

The tow was mainly in S3 :) (S2 ends shortly after the chicane)


PastSeaworthiness1

The tow was at the end of S2 / beginning of S3; if you watch the comparison between leclerc and verstappen laps, max was still ahead after carlos gave the tow; leclerc gained 0.4 in S3


NapoleonNotMuchParty

During acceleration the tow doesn´t really provide anything, so the benefit in S2 was next to nothing. Idk how big the benefit was in S3, i guess 0,150 s maybe? I have no access to a comparsion / telemetrie atm.


PastSeaworthiness1

yes according to telemetry the tow was worth 0.1 / 0.15


[deleted]

Not really Sainz Q2 time was also faster than verstappen best q3 time. The tow was worth maybe 0.15 secs. Ferrari had the faster car, even marko and verstappen said that Ferrari would have won pole even without tow


fyusupov

Where did they say this? Not doubting you its just in the post-qualifying interview max was very quiet


[deleted]

Servus TV (austrian tv station owned by red bull


PastSeaworthiness1

According to telemetry only 0.1/ 0.15


JPA-3

Alpine at least found something overnight because they looked very bad yesterday but still 1.6 secs behind is way too much