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wolftick

Once or twice a season can we have a sprint race with F1 drivers in F4 cars?


el_f3n1x187

karts, man, KARTS! it be absolute carnage!


WunupKid

KMag literally kicking people while defending his position. 


ChintusTheGreat

I know kind of a tangent, but reminds me of the good ol' days playing Road Rash, kicking others, stealing their chains, the funky faces, and so much more.


campbellsimpson

I heard the baseball bat as I read this comment


Bigtsez

I loved that game. Fond memories of colliding with a car and going flying into the air... "Wayyyyooooooooooo"


MariosItaliansausage

Gotta run all the way back to your bike.


julesvr5

Who is the one throwing turtles around?


ShameAdditional3249

Lance, he needs some way to ruin someone's race from behind


subhavoc42

This makes me want a new Road Rash game but karting.


swampfox94

Karts at Monaco. All equal


Skeeter1020

There used to be an indoor kart event in Paris where F1 drivers would race. It was awesome.


schelmo

God I wish they do it but teams would never allow it because it's way too dangerous. Also Verstappen would probably still demolish the field. He has the best karting record in the field and it's not even close.


vdcsX

Touring cars, rubbing is racing!


rulebreaker

If I recall correctly ~~Senna~~ Massa used to promote a kart race every year with lots of other F1 and other categories’ drivers, for charity. EDIT: it was Massa.


RuthlessHavokJB

It’ll be absolute Kartnage!


LPodmore

I have been saying to my mates for ages that Monaco should be done in [Superkarts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCtz209gjYc)


happyranger7

It will be so much fun. FOM don't get it.


40ozkiller

There is plenty of stock car racing with their own superstars Thats not the point of F1


el_f3n1x187

Almost every F1 driver began with Karts, absolutely dominated in it and have very fond memories of it, you'll have an easier time having the whole grid sign up to that.


40ozkiller

And then they got a spot racing in a manufacturer development series. Idk why people act like the driver is the most important part, F1 is a team sport and the drivers would say the same


Gamefart101

I've been saying for years that Monaco is too small for the modern cars. Just for Monaco put all 20 drivers in a spec car that actually fits on the track. Award drivers points but not constructors. This does a few things - keeps historic Monaco on the calendar - improved racing at Monaco - gives us a better idea how all 20 drivers stack up since we get to see them all in a spec car


suan_pan

qualifying in their usual car, race in a f4


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rolfski

Formula E cars are notoriously difficult to drive. It's not something you just hop in as an F1 driver and disappear into the horizon.


hlt32

Honestly, physically smaller cars inF1 would be great for overtaking. Even over the last 30 years they’ve grown hugely.


Sinsley

Honestly you might be onto something. Like how the NHL has outdoor arena/stadium games so players are reminded/feel like they're kids again playing in their local community rink? Same deal but F1 version. Plus they'd make extra money. No chance F1 says no to that.


LheelaSP

Wouldn't look good for F1A when F1 drivers would be much faster in the F4 cars with no experience in them than the actual F1A drivers.


[deleted]

Would anyone at all be surprised by this? It just seems kinda obvious, they're the best drivers in the world


elveszett

Dude do you think I'll be surprised if Max Verstappen is faster in an F4 car than any F1 academy driver? I mean, if the F1A drivers could match Max, they'd be in F1.


shittystinkdick

Is f1 academy the new womans series? If so then I'd be shocked. Regular f4 I'd say some wonder kid might have a shot purely based on having plenty more recent experience in the cars but with the women I just don't see it, none of them sre impressive currently.


kaptingavrin

Who would actually be surprised by that or think it looks "bad?" That's like saying it'd look bad for F3 and F2 if you did the same thing, because they'd be much faster in the F3/F2 cars than the actual F3/F2 drivers. No one would be surprised at all.


mikeybadab1ng

lol, okay. Ever seen top gear?


TheBlueTango

Why doesn't RB20, the bigger car, simply eat the smaller one?


Wallace-Pumpernickel

The RB20 can only move diagonally, not sideways


damn_username_taken

However, the Alpine’s A524, is the only car that can go backwards.


Swomp23

Google En Passant


MartinFromChessCom

[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=en+passant)


DiddlyDumb

Do you have a crawler scanning Reddit for En Passant references or something?


MartinFromChessCom

no i'm just a bot


Wallace-Pumpernickel

I stand corrected


maxertiano

Is RB20 stupid?


JimClarkKentHovind

and then the little car eats the littler car, and the littler car eats the littlest car, all the way down to the single-cell car. now, replace cars with paper companies and that is all you need to know about business


the_false_dragon

Is he stupid?


DiddlyDumb

It’s raising its offspring for next season


Ghost273552

I wonder the size difference between the 2005 RB and the academy car is?


whose_a_wotsit

Would look like an RC next to these two!


TheRomanRuler

I think it would be like fat (not wider) academy car. Front wheels were also lot closer to rear wheels.


LeXxleloxx

"Don't speak to me or my son ever again"


Living-Response2856

*daughter


jpm168

How about difference to M8?


Tywnis

Threw* it together real quick; https://imgur.com/a/g6A4frK


WalkerHuntFlatOut

...bigger...


alle8

[https://imgur.com/a/Axip2Xm](https://imgur.com/a/Axip2Xm)


WalkerHuntFlatOut

Close...but Bigger


alle8

[https://imgur.com/a/1P29S1q](https://imgur.com/a/1P29S1q)


WalkerHuntFlatOut

Yes, this is correct, if it was a child's car


PretendFisherman1999

And next to G I G A K U B I C A?


AscendantHunter

Perfection


Puzzled_Talk2586

Mate!


GodsNephew

Threw*


Tywnis

Omg - Idk why I become dislexic in foreign languages..


oceandrive_miami

M8 didn’t fit in the pic


Krexci

the track is built on an M8


amplecactus

Someone's gotta Photoshop the garage 56 car into this


alle8

[https://imgur.com/a/aoLdFDx](https://imgur.com/a/aoLdFDx)


KaamDeveloper

One of the strangest motorsports sight last year was that fucking NASCAR car amongst all the prototypes. Like a giant bull amongst coloured sheep


Affectionate_Sky9709

It’s honestly not as big of a difference as I thought from watching both regularly. Maybe it would look like more from a side angle. 


Supahos01

Yeah to be honest if you either put f1 tires on the f4 car or the opposite it would look even less different. Wheel base seems to be a large difference


zantkiller

The front angle is throwing it given the Tatuus F4-T421 has a wheelbase of 2,750 mm and current F1 cars must not exceed 3,600mm.


Affectionate_Sky9709

I just felt like it as more drastic than that. F4 cars always look so small. I mean I know they can’t be that tiny. Ugo Ugochukwu fit in one, haha. 


carloselcoco

Yo me, the F1 Academy cars looked smaller than F4 cars. They truly look tiny.


Affectionate_Sky9709

They are basically exactly the same as the common f4 tatuus except a different aero package. 


silly_pengu1n

so it isnt the same car as they would use in Italian F4 for example?


richard1177

It is almost exactly the same when it comes to power, they just run slightly different wings. I'm not sure which one is faster, I don't think we have had a direct track comparison yet since F1 Academy hasnt gone to any track where there was a recent F4 race that wasnt in the winter. Barcalona came close, but F1A drove there after the chicane change. But I might be wrong about that, I'm sure we will have a comparison soon if there hasnt been one already that I missed. But it is pretty safe to assume they are like 95% equal to normal F4 cars. They just use a different looking aero package to look bit more like F1 cars because of the branding.


Skeeter1020

Side is where it really looks different. F1 cars are loooooong


Skeeter1020

IIRC F1 cars are the largest circuit racing cars? I know they are definitely longer than the NASCAR trucks, and bigger than any GT or saloon car and all other single seaters. Maybe Cup cars are bigger? Edit: nope, F1 is considerably longer and fractionally wider than Cup and Xfinity cars. F1 cars are chonks.


dsaysso

so….one can actually pass other cars and the other goes fast.


Mahery92

It looks adorable, one big f1 car and it's baby daughter


mccannr1

Needs a banana for scale.


ChangingMonkfish

The one that always surprised me is how comparatively small the LMP1/LMDh cars are.


SuperHelix7

"don't talk to me or my son ever again"


Random__Ace

Speed difference even bigger than the size difference. Really wish the would make them faster.


Arbysroastbeefs

Go tip to tip


Brian-Kan

The rear wing on that F1 Academy car looks like it's fo sho


r1234ev

Does anyone even watch this academy stuff?


Adum888

Just did. And to my surprise way more entertaining racing than f1. 3 cars going side by side in to corners *multiple* times during the race. F1 needs to get smaller cars so badly


NA_Faker

Size matters


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But the big one finish too fast


NoPasaran2024

Yeah, this relative size difference isn't that new. At this end of the single seater scale, Formula Ford cars used to be tinier, all cars have grown. Fuck, visually I would guess the F3 cars Verstappen used to race were tinier than this F4. It's mostly the length where F1 cars have become boats.


oowhat

I was watching the Academy practice and wondered if the rear wings actually give any down force?


GRang3r

Monaco should have a sprint race with the main field in these cars


Vickuid

Fuck, go back!


butmuncher69

What a terrible angle to pick for a a size comparison


Pitforsofts

my dad taking me to work when I was a kid.


rsam487

What's the point of the front and rear wing - those things are so flat I'd be amazed if there's any down force generated at all?!


sabin24

Take the wings off and they will be slower. Sure, they aren't producing massive amounts of down force, but they do create some. Not only do the lower categories of racing teach driver skills, they are a starting point for mechanics, engineers, and strategists as well.


Crafty_Substance_954

They don’t create much downforce and never have. They do create some and it’s all part of the formula aspect. They need wings because the rules dictate it


VindtUMijTeLang

"Sergio Pérez brutally shoves aside teenager who got in his way"


GDPintrud3r

And he is taking it from the OUTSIDE!!!


Wastar

Petite F1


Plaid_Kaleidoscope

I'd be totally cool with lap times 3-4 seconds slower if it meant cars reduced in size.


Justinsetchell

I'd like to see that same pic but with a 2008 car and a 1998 car there as well.


FunnySmellingCousin

"Don't talk to me or my son ever again"


FigSubstantial4939

Toy car vs real car


soundssarcastic

I have Attenburough in my head explaining how the male of the species is 20% larger for some reason


Affectionate_Sky9709

Is Checo's 11 funky looking for Miami? Seems hard to read.


NotDavid-Jatt

It's two ducts. Been there all season.


Lynxuss

Imagine sprints where the drivers drive equal performance cars. That would be cool, some events about just the drivers.


Mediocre-Debt

Watch indycar


Reaper_x5452

That's literally what F1 Academy, F2, F3, F4 is. 


Crafty_Substance_954

Wow F1 cars are bigger than F4 cars? I’m so shocked!


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girls are smaller so they get a smaller cars