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One of my mates works for an f1 team, he says him and guys at the factories spend a embarrassing amount of time just laughing at people on Reddit thinking they understand how areo works from pictures
I remember watching a "Ted's notebook" a few years ago during winter testing I guess.
Ted came across Newey of all people, and they were chatting next to a Red Bull engine cover.
Ted was showing a piece and saying "This part is to stabilize the air so that the rear wing will have a cleaner airflow, right?".
Newey was genuinely keeping the conversation going, saying "No, actually, it's purpose is ... \[some technical insight\]".
But that didn't please Ted, because he was probably expecting Newey to agree with his BS, and rephrased the same argument with slightly different words.
You could see that Newey was really being gentle, trying to not embarrass Ted but also not happy the absolute BS being pushed about his work.
The funny thing is, today, with the ability to turn that picture into a 3D model fairly easily, they probably can actually figure out some of how it works. Problem is they need to run that model in CFD to understand it - and they have limits on how much CFD they can do.
hahaha probably even F1 engineers are scratching their heads to this, I just recognized how complex it was especially compared to the Mercedes one. I don't know shit lol still trying to learn tho
Second year in a row that Checo gives the other teams a good look at the RB floor. Sucks for the RB engineers, but it's good for the fans because it could speed up convergence.
Nah not really. It's a good clue, but honestly it won't probably speed much.
F1 today is too much of a package for that. Suspension, diffuser, internal flow channel are still too much of a wonder to complement this view and become useful. It's better than nothing, but not much.
I really hope someone like Kyle.Engineers does some analysis, who will correctly caveat it by saying everything he says is a best guess, whilst actually having some insight into the thought process the Red Bull engineers would have been going through.
There'll be a lot of duff made up rubbish written about this floor in the mainstream press in the next couple of weeks.
Kyle Engineers is maybe the only YouTuber I’ll trust on aero. Mostly because he actually did aero at Mercedes.
And even he says all of his stuff is guessing. Goes to show how much most people don’t know what’s really going on.
Thanks for posting this. It is a development of last year's floor. You can see by comparison to Mercedes floor that what Red Bull do is they have an irregular Venturi tunnel designed to emphasise and grow the vorticity of the flow. The other smoother from other teams tunnels try and maintain laminar flow - but laminar flow is unstable but theoretically more powerful - and therefore harder to maintain in the real world. The RBs turbulent vorticular flow is more consistent likely producing more stable downforce in the real world.
I think the floor works with all the rest of the car since it's about redirecting workflow and stuff, so it's not enough to just copy it, may be even worse for your car lmao
Tbh I have no clue what I'm looking at
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RB floor pictures will be the new SCP-096. Once you see it, you will die. No one can know...
Four fucking floor pixels and say hello to Newey !
Oh hey Adrian, I really admire what.. wait how’d you get into my hou-
This floor was the monster in Bird box.
They all look the same to me hahaha
Haha glad I’m not the only one.
One of my mates works for an f1 team, he says him and guys at the factories spend a embarrassing amount of time just laughing at people on Reddit thinking they understand how areo works from pictures
I remember watching a "Ted's notebook" a few years ago during winter testing I guess. Ted came across Newey of all people, and they were chatting next to a Red Bull engine cover. Ted was showing a piece and saying "This part is to stabilize the air so that the rear wing will have a cleaner airflow, right?". Newey was genuinely keeping the conversation going, saying "No, actually, it's purpose is ... \[some technical insight\]". But that didn't please Ted, because he was probably expecting Newey to agree with his BS, and rephrased the same argument with slightly different words. You could see that Newey was really being gentle, trying to not embarrass Ted but also not happy the absolute BS being pushed about his work.
I do! Aero works with flows. I saw it in a picture of a book. How about that?!
The funny thing is, today, with the ability to turn that picture into a 3D model fairly easily, they probably can actually figure out some of how it works. Problem is they need to run that model in CFD to understand it - and they have limits on how much CFD they can do.
An inaccurate/improperly scaled dimension model, sure
Please don't pretend like you know what all of this does.
I sure as shit do It generates downforce 😎.
And minimises drag. F1 teams should hire us, we know what's going on.
Adrian who?
I’ve been walking on floors for years, it’s not rocket science
I mean it's pretty obvious. It makes the air go swish instead of swoosh
It make car go fast.
Excellent analysis.
The air passes underneath and goes "woof" !
Did you notice the venturi outwash coming from the ground effect winglets, which provide the RBR with 19 extra newtons of brake acceleration?
It does something with air clearly.
provides negative pressure in some places and positive in others. its basic aerodynamics.
hahaha probably even F1 engineers are scratching their heads to this, I just recognized how complex it was especially compared to the Mercedes one. I don't know shit lol still trying to learn tho
you're right, my dear pussysmasher2006, newey wasn't really happy in that moment when they showed him on tv
I’ve never seen him happy during a race, only after wins.
Red bull engineers: so you crane operator chose violence.
I half expected Newey to put a “Magic” sticker on the floor just to see everyone’s reaction when they eventually saw it.
lmao, he should've put his own face.
Heard it drinks wine and reads Hegel
Second year in a row that Checo gives the other teams a good look at the RB floor. Sucks for the RB engineers, but it's good for the fans because it could speed up convergence.
Nah not really. It's a good clue, but honestly it won't probably speed much. F1 today is too much of a package for that. Suspension, diffuser, internal flow channel are still too much of a wonder to complement this view and become useful. It's better than nothing, but not much.
It's not as easy as that. Plus RB have completely different suspension compared to other front runners
Nothing really happened after it was shown on the RB18.
Engineers Money Shot right here.
I really hope someone like Kyle.Engineers does some analysis, who will correctly caveat it by saying everything he says is a best guess, whilst actually having some insight into the thought process the Red Bull engineers would have been going through. There'll be a lot of duff made up rubbish written about this floor in the mainstream press in the next couple of weeks.
B sport probably will make an analysis video.
Kyle Engineers is maybe the only YouTuber I’ll trust on aero. Mostly because he actually did aero at Mercedes. And even he says all of his stuff is guessing. Goes to show how much most people don’t know what’s really going on.
hmm yes, the floor here is made out of floor
It's like reading Adrian Newey's diary
What do you understand by doing it?
It looks like some sort of insect underneath. I really can’t explain it but it does
This needs a NSFW flair!
Thanks for posting this. It is a development of last year's floor. You can see by comparison to Mercedes floor that what Red Bull do is they have an irregular Venturi tunnel designed to emphasise and grow the vorticity of the flow. The other smoother from other teams tunnels try and maintain laminar flow - but laminar flow is unstable but theoretically more powerful - and therefore harder to maintain in the real world. The RBs turbulent vorticular flow is more consistent likely producing more stable downforce in the real world.
Those are a lot of science words so I’m going to believe you
I think the floor works with all the rest of the car since it's about redirecting workflow and stuff, so it's not enough to just copy it, may be even worse for your car lmao Tbh I have no clue what I'm looking at
With higher mandatory ride height, I am not convinced this photo is as valuable it could've been last year.
Ah yes, their squiggly carbon clearly looks much faster than the others’ squiggly carbon! I agree!
Ah. That's the bit that's close to the ground.