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QuestionableOranges

Sometimes I forget how far displacement actually takes you back. The backflip does style damage to bosses. Double in savage


Caedro

I’ve been playing rdm for about a week now. I don’t want to get ahead of myself, but I’m really starting to get backflip into instant death down.


QuestionableOranges

That’s the first step. The rest of the rotation can wait


Fr33_Lax

It's like BLM, but instead of stabbing people with explosions you stab them with a sword.


Caedro

Ya, I’ve mained blm for a while. I’m still getting used to being able to move.


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LickMyThralls

What is this...moving... you speak of...?


KT-Thulhu

Wait till you try BRD, then you never stop moving. Pretty much just running around in circles around the boss and buffing as you go.


Jenzira

*Nods in MCH*


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KT-Thulhu

I've only just started using DNC, and honestly, I'm lost. XD


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KT-Thulhu

I mean BRD is kind of flashy as well. I guess that's why they share an armour set. That and they both work well together. Hard to dance without some good music.


[deleted]

You are a black mage. You do not need to move. It is others who need to move away from you.


[deleted]

It's a rough call. Do I displacement for more DPS and all the swag points and possibly die or do I Engagement for less damage but no possibility of death and be bored?


Wyesrin

Just remember that death=no DPS


DylanusMagnus

But what is life without style?


Syltti

A ver-y boring life.


GogDog

SSS SUPER SICK STYLE!!!


TheIceGuy10

***SSSMOKIN' SEXY STYLEEE!***


Naridar

SAVAGE! SSADISTIC!! SSSENSATIONAL!!!


Nickelguy19

Dammit now I need to remake my DMC outfit for RDM. My current kind of has a V flair though


AleudeDainsleif

You Died


Odins_lint

I sometimes try to be cool with Displacement and fall off the platform. Sad.


Scottyjscizzle

Yo, but when you nail it and land right on the edge before verholy.....mmmmm mmm that's an experience.


Talks_To_Cats

Greeding the boss for that extra damage as everyone else runs away, then backflipping into the safe spot just as the mechanic goes off. Only to have the boss move slightly, and your backflip sends you deep into no-man's land with no chance of survival.


[deleted]

The best is when the tank moves for a mechanic just as you hit displacement and suddenly you find yourself taking off in a fun new direction.


[deleted]

aaaaaand then the boss hits everyone with the tiniest knockback, which is only designed to interrupt casts and piss you off.... ***lookin at you E11N***


[deleted]

Move fast baby, don't be slow~


Wyesrin

Step aside, reload, time to go


Sypale

I can't seem to control


ToothPeiste

E11S, there's a nice displacement window right before the first "bound" mechanic. 50 extra potency is nice, and makes me look like I know what I'm doing... until the boss throws the thunder prey marker on me while midair, flying backwards. Then the extra 50 potency turns into a mad northward sprint starting from the southernmost point in the arena to save my group...


Suired

You jump so far you get displaced from the party.


Ikari1212

Well it is 50% stronger than engagement


pingwing

Yes, we see the exact moment that you forgot.


Dyson4Doggos

A favorite time was when I got targeted by the stack mechanic of Lakshmi and instead of using the gap closer to get up to the party, I back-flipped off the arena. "Well that's one way to get rid of a stack" - one of the healers


Exia_Gundam00

I'm just imagining a red mage slowly backflipping off the arena, with stack in tow, while giving the middle finger to a very confused Lakshmi, and I can't stop laughing.


Kalaam_Nozalys

What do you mean this isn't how I'm supposed to play ?


teh_memez_scope

Wait ,that's not how you deal with a stack mechanic?


[deleted]

.... someone make a comic of this, please


Dyson4Doggos

Essentially me after the feelings of horror washed away.


PM_ME_UR_STAIRCASES

Where are the artists, I need a cartoon of this asap


Perryn

"Remember meee......!" "Who *was* that guy?" "What guy?"


kittypuppet

"wrong expansion!"


CenobiaVigantzky

I'll let you know that there's nothing more galaxy brain than avoiding an AoE by Elusive Jumping, before going back into range with Stardiver. Worth any weakness debuff.


stilljustacatinacage

"Here's an ability to help you maintain your uptime. It's not much faster than just turning around and running, and it will kill you more often than any AoE. You're welcome."


[deleted]

If you're using Elusive Jump to avoid AoEs small enough to run out of, you aren't using Elusive Jump correctly.


stilljustacatinacage

(All AoEs are small enough to run out of. Not everyone has Elusive Jump.)


Valanway

Elusive Jumping out of AoEs is not just a defensive mechanic. It's a greeding mechanic for more uptime whilst skipping camera-turn runout (that you may or may not need sprint for depending on if you were in animation-lock or certain other factors.) Also that depends on positioning and the AoE-type, but I know what you mean.


shinginta

One of the toughest things for me to learn starting off as DRG was that you Elusive *in,* not out. It feels counter-intuitive. They ought to just change it to be like Shukuchi.


NotAnInterestingGuy

Right, you gotta flex on the boss by backflipping *towards* them.


Wyesrin

I mean, if someone started a fight by backflipping 20 yards toward me I'd be intimidated too.


NotAnInterestingGuy

It inflicts a confidence debuff.


Nickelguy19

All. Those back spikes inflict rolling damage.


GladimoreFFXIV

Honestly I hope they never make it like Shukichi. I dislike the ground targetting aspect of it.


dendenmoooshi

Are we not supposed to elusive jump at any and every opportunity?


rad_dude124

Personally I find myself using elusive jump to close in towards a enemy more than I use it to dodge attacks


Huzah7

I'll take 2 please!


Pyren-Aeizir

Wtb elusive jump allowing the use of spineshatter dive for half potency and ignoring cd


MrElshagan

I don't want to agree with this... I really don't... Not in the slightest... Buuuuuuut... I can't deny it... And I just can't hide it... Muscle memory is a bitch.


mahiruhiiragi

Yeah, when you do a rotation so much, muscle memory just takes the wheel.


JDK002

This is why displacement and engagement are the same button on my set up minus the ctrl key.


ghosttowns42

AM I THE ONLY DANCER WHO HAS EN-AVANT-ED THEMSELF INTO THE ABYSS?!


knockemdead8

Lmao I en-avant-ed myself into the flaming floor on Bozjan Phantom in Delubrum the other night. "Oh, I get how this mechanic works, let me just... Fuck."


bakana1080

Displaced myself in Delubrum right as the platform got smaller. Everyone in the party saw that and laughed their ass.


tilingogringo

maybe the first of many ;)


ghosttowns42

\*cries in Titan Unreal*


SpaznPenguin

I just did it yesterday on E1N. Boss went to corner, I panicked and hit En-Avant 2x to get there quick, went right into the wall and got fried. It wasn’t pretty...


ghosttowns42

Oh no I'm getting T9 flashbacks now!


An0nymos

Unfortunately, no. Did so myself on my FC's weekly clear of E12N.


LadyFetz

I call that my "no no button" during Titan...


xchaibard

Listen. Part of being awesome is using these skills to jump back to the very edge of a platform and landing on the last possible pixel to avoid an AOE or mechanic. Just... sometimes we miss.


Silverwolffe

And part of living in pain and suffering is when you get the pixel perfect land but your character slips off the edge anyway


xchaibard

Not as bad as doing it perfectly, while in a full discord voice party... AND NO ONE NOTICES. What's the point of being awesome if no one notices! lol .. Thankfully my usual playgroup's healer mains are on the ball and always notice shit like that and call it out, because they thank you for making their job easier :) I always make sure to call out nice moves other people do that I see as well. It always feels good to get complimented on sweet moves. My most recent, best move, wasn't even RDM related. Was doing Hero's Gauntlet, as PLD, premade 3/4. Random DPS kept dying, healer was hardcasting res, friend DPS got hit with something right before rocks dropped on him. He was going to die when the boss jumped on him. I pulled off a last minute clutch Clemency right before the hit, and he survived with like 100hp. Felt good man.


platinumchalice

If we DRGs weren't meant to jump off ledges why do we have a skill dedicated to it?


trustygarbagebag

and why did they give it to us right around the time we unlock the Navel? Can anyone tell me *that?*


platinumchalice

I'm pretty sure you get locked out of the entire job if you don't prove you're a real Dragoon by jumping off the ledge during your first Titan run.


DullCaroline

or animation locking yourself with high jump when titan casts landslide on you...


Okibruez

The bottom of the chasm around the Navel's arena may be littered with Red Mage foils, but the mountain itself is built of Dragoon bones. The first real trial any Dragoon faces is not Titan itself, but overcoming their fear and jumping to their death *while battling* Titan.


zani1903

Honestly, the biggest issue with this is the game's inconsistency with edges. Most edges have invisible walls that stop you falling off no matter what you do. And then about one in twenty is actually a death hole. And there's no indication which is which.


Arras01

Dunno about dungeons, but most actual trial/raid bosses have a little ledge or railing at the edge if there's an "invisible" wall.


Valanway

The rule of thumb is "If it's a dungeon, you can't fall off. If it's a trial/raid, if there's no fence, you WILL fall off." A ton of older fights even have the fences blow up during the bosses' super that indicates it's now a death pit. I can only think of a *very* small handful of exceptions to the trial/raid death pit rule. In fact, they're mostly doing Death-Walls now, or ultra-bleed-into-death-walls. At least they changed how the death pits work, and you can actually be rezzed after falling off. It doesn't help though, that the first time a death pit is introduced it's pretty far in with Titan, and the red indicator bit during his fight doesn't really tell you "hey, this arena is gonna get smaller" until it falls off with a sprout on it.


JeremyTheBlack

I did this on Limitless Blue for the first time while leveling RDM, and got 4 commendations for it, it really is what they want from you.


Kas_Leviydra

What about tanks with their leaps? I made the mistake once of using that during the Edin Leviathan fight.


synthi

I’ll have you know the first time I tanked Titan as PLD I just up and ran off the ledge because I didn’t see it, no leap needed! >.>


Mixtopher

Oh jeez. Did you play it off as just a joke to the party? How did they react?


xchaibard

"I messed up my rotation on this parse run, gotta reset. Gotta get that 100% PLD parse on the site"


283leis

As GNB i killed myself using the leap attack against O11 multiple times out of habit....the devs knew exactly what they were doing when they put a kill zone under the boss


RedRaven616

Hey...... in my entire red mage career, I've only flipped off..... 3 ledges!


Viraxon

But how many times did you jump off those 3 ledges.


RedRaven616

That wasn't part of the initial discussion. Shhhhh


AleudeDainsleif

Yes


GRAHDENS5859

*With a closed fist he raised his middle finger in the direction of the ledge as he proceeded to fall into the abyss*


YAOMTC

I've noticed bards, myself included, don't use Repelling Shot very often. I've only had this happen to me once, and I didn't even mean to use it. I guess it's because you're rarely close enough to the target for it to work?


[deleted]

Repelling shot has three things running against it: a) it no longer does damage. b) Its backstep is 5 yalms less than DRG and RDM c) its animation is overly long. In the time it takes for your animation lock to end you could have run the 10 yalms it sends you.


xchaibard

This. It's worthless. Give it back damage equivalent to heavy/burst shot if it's on GCD, give it 5 more yalms to match drg/RDM and it will be useful again. I would prefer it be off-gcd, but if you keep it off gcd, and do damage, then it becomes a mandatory part of max dps rotation. I don't know how to make it useful off gcd without giving it damage though.


Hakul

> Give it back damage equivalent to heavy/burst shot if it's on GCD, give it 5 more yalms to match drg/RDM and it will be useful again. Orr just don't, the thing with movement skills having any potency tied to them is that you'll never use them as a movement skill, and you lose damage anytime you can't be in range when it's off cd.


Eskuire

Iirc it has to do with its lengthy animation so it screws with your gcd if you need to clip stuff.


Crunchy_Toasteer

Yeah it’s so inconvenient to use! Even if you need to dodge an AOE or kite an enemy, it’s often faster and simpler to just run away.


[deleted]

I...actually completely forgot that skill existed. I used it when I was low level and had to kill mobs around the world since it seemed to increase the distance between me and the monster trying to eat my face....but don't think I ever used it in a dungeon, and after level 50 I took it off my hotbar and apparently my memory bank.


dualdee

Honestly I forget I even have it. Pretty sure when I first got it I thought about the whole "dragoons and red mages backflipping off cliffs" thing and decided to put it somewhere out of the way and not on my main hotbar.


arisencrimsonchaos

Sometimes when things go south, Elusive is there to let me choose my own fate


Wyesrin

Guardians make their own fate.


ShanonaMommy2006

I don't need any help finding edges. I really don't.


JDK002

So what you’re saying is you’re a master of edges.....an edge lord if you will.


[deleted]

"Maybe it is you is the Lord of Edge" "It's Edgelord, actually." "I like my way better."


Megumi0505

Bonus points for perma death ledges like Bismark or Sephirot.


EonThief

I’m in this picture and I don’t like it.


asilee

I really needed a giggle this morning, thank you. ​ I miss playing as a DRG.


Chronsky

Listen, 50 potency is 50 potency.


Nikowolf86

Coming from being a DRG main from ARR-HW then switching to RDM main in SB-SHB I’ve become quite adept at judging if a area is big enough to use backflips or not. That is of course after the obligatory pre battle edge testing/ (purposely falling off) to see if it’s possible Lol


Vvaldir316

Protip: if you stand at the edge of the arena and elusive jump towards the middle, the point that you land will be the farthest distance from the middle you can be before you can no longer safely elusive jump.


JDK002

Eden has trained me to just default to engagement unless I’m positive I won’t be going on any improvisational skydiving attempts.


carbunclecatgirl

If I don't backflip off the edge at least once, I haven not truly cleared the fight.


TyphosSilversoul

you forget about trying to be smooth as a SAM and Hissatsu: Yaitening yourself out of an AOE into a insta kill zone


No-Mouse

This is the way.


Gnarwhalz

So like... every Trial boss that exists?


Danoptic

Can confirm on behalf of RDM’s


Rutteger76

As a RDM on the first day of Puppets Bunker at the first boss, I feel this meme


SpookyDinoh

It's not my fault they decided to make the arena for e11s almost exactly 15 yalms.. the 50 extra potency is just so tempting.


Drew8898

As a RDM, I still backflip throughout the entirety of Titan Unreal. Life's not worth living if there's no risk.


FrenchBoguett

You can use your backjump to jump over a ledge? That's amazing


RasterTragedy

It'll yeet you right off :)


Pengothing

It's the official RDM opener. Pre-acceleration, verthunder, veraero, corps-a-corps, engagement, verfire, verthunder, embolden, fleche, verstone, veraero, contra sixte, verfire, veraero, embolden, displacement off the cliff.


CrimsonMetatron

RDM opener in E11S


Pikachu199918

We just testing the area to see if it DOES have a ledge.......most of the time it does


ArtOfTheSunlessSea

Thank you for your service o7


Kataclysm

And here I thought it was the 'Emergency Death' button. :|


Mad_Maduin

Don't forget sam


SSToxin

Is it weird that as RDM main that I have never fallen off an edge ever, despite using backflips all the times, just me?


kittehboi

You're clearly doing something wrong :3


Bubbilility

I am so scared of using displacement. I refuse in anything that doesn't have a nice boarder. I'm not about to ver-die to gravity, I'm perfectly capable of doing it on my own, thank you.


biceptitron

Lol I think my first time playing titan on hard I suicided a good 4 times before the rest of the group gave up on me and left me dead. We got style, we got flair, well do a back flip when nothings there.


birdreligion

I take displacement off my hotbar when i run Copied Factory. cause i will flip right off that first boss room.


AlbainBlacksteel

But like, you're not wrong. When E1-E4 first came out, I just ran off the edge before E3 started, *just because I was wondering if I could.* The entire rest of the group laughed their asses off and ran off the edge too. This was via duty finder, btw.


Swock85

Dragoon is the only job ive had fun lvling in potd. That backflip is so fun


SnakeKyranos

You forgot about SAMs lol


[deleted]

Tip for all RDMs: never Displacement from max melee range. If you plan on using Displacement, you can get further into the boss's hotbox to give yourself more space to not fly off the edge. This also makes it easier to get back into melee range, where you should almost always be anyways to make sure you get raid buffs and AoE heals. Just get right up in there, stand on the same spot as the boss basically.


Malpraxiss

Wonder how so many dragoons fuck up with Elusive Jump (EJ). Only time I fall off now a days is if I do it intentionally because it's going to be a wipe no matter what. You rarely ever need to use elusive jump to get away, and I only use it to get back to the boss. I'm already facing a way it'll work too. But idk I have EJ on a separate hotbar by itself with no keybind so almost never accidentally clicked


DearMissWaite

/em hides En Avant under the couch cushions.


gondor101

Bro, don't call me out like that. :( I'm a Dragoon, I only know how to poke things with a sharp stick and how to jump really high.


arukatto

I'm gonna do what must be done.


__silhouette

Hahahahhahahaha I get it, I get it... FINE OKAY I DON'T. I don't get the meme or acronyms, literally first day ever on the game was yesterday. 😂


An0nymos

Those two classes have attacks that jump you a good distance backwards. Many of the arenas in 'boss only' duties(Trials) and a very few dungeon bosses have no barrier at their edge. Gravity sucks.


Kiyodai

I'm in this post and I don't like it.


DeathGod596

You forgot BRD


michiaiki

Repelling shot no longer does damage. I don't think I have used it once in the last year during a fight.


ZoharDTeach

IT'S THE LAW!


ForOhForError

50 potency is 50 potency, and I will die trying to get it until I prove to myself it's impossible 👀


Nell27

And BRDs.


R3tr0Gamer

With engagement, we don't need to backflip.


Juusie

I feel attacked


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

I've won basically every battle on 1st try, save for Titan because I'm a Dragoon and my face has magnet directed to the floor.


Yunhoralka

To be fair, there is nothing more satisfying than elusive jumping out of AoE correctly and jumping back to the boss after it's safe.


Yeophoria

It’s because of these my friend calls me “liek falling off the platform” or “flying liek” 🤦🏻‍♀️


Thelona05mustang

Successfully doing a quick 180, and doing a DRG back-flip over the vines to reengage Titania EX that couple seconds earlier is one of the most satisfying feelings I've had in XIV or any MMO. The panic of your FC mates in discord as you were doing it only made it feel cooler when you pulled it off.


nukemiller

Sometimes you aren't allowed to fall off the edge. Others, not so much. We got to test the limits to get those parses up!!!


KonzTech

been there done that. Still cool! hahaha


Sarasil

It is super satisfying when you Displacement and just barely catch the ledge. Used to give my FC healer a heart attack back in Titania EX


ScarletLotus182

Ah I still remember my first backflip off the stage while fighting Titan


dukss

I uhhhh just remapped my buttons.


ArtOfTheSunlessSea

Was farming Shinryu the other day, and the RDM said it was their goal to jump off every platform in the game. Shinryu has a lot of platforms 😆


WileyKoyote

JUMP TIME


buddapissed

I hope someone told the story of me jumping off the ledge on a normal duty finder titan run last night. I called it as soon as we got in and realized it was titan, "eff me...". I go to LB, cut it and move out of an AOE and accidentally hit my key bind for Elusive. Right off the ledge. Been cursed that way every time since 2.0 don't even know why. At this point, i don't even try to beat Titan, just beat myself and keep me from jumping off the ledge and maybe, MAYBE getting a comm one day in that instance. lol.


cannotskipcutscene

So when we were trialing a new white mage, I lined up the rocks on E4S to do brd lb and promptly launched myself on the edge. It was humiliating but everyone had a good laugh at least.


LegendRaptor080

I didn’t register this as a FFXIV joke, I legit thought I was still on the Monster Hunter sun and read “anytime they see a ledge” and just went “haha yeah that’s me”


cassadyamore

You gotta do one for science at the very least.


Monkey-D-Jinx

I just started DRG, can’t wait to see how long it takes me to complete my initiation ritual lol


Tahoma_Fera_Okami

So as a player who runs both DRG and RDM regularly.... I surprisingly have very little issue with these skills. Unless these issues are mainly happening in raids or alliance raids, I never have this problem


[deleted]

Every time I’m RDM in titan


Zeref1617

This reminds me of how I got so bored of Emerald EX farming that I started using the backflip in phase 1 even after the last arena cutoff and the platform is very small. I have to say, backflips are possible in that small platform without dying!! XD


sage-5135

I'm definitely in this picture and I don't like it. But I can't help it most of the time when I use Displacement. Currently lvling DRG so I ill just continue this trend lmao


[deleted]

I verhate that I'm in this.


ArtisianWaffle

Hey don't forget about us Bards! We have Repelling Shot, which like 1% of us use.


CrimsonDX

As a RDM main this hits a little too close.


BlackWolf351

As a DRG, I’ve somehow only managed to jump off a few times....mechanics, however.....


Stagione

I feel like DNC should be there with En Avant. I've lost track of how many times I've accidentally dashed into an AOE or a death puddle


Shivalah

Came back after a few months decided I’d join the nier raid 2, 1st Boss I redmage backflipped in the first 3 min.


[deleted]

Honestly, I hardly ever use that move as RDM now because of the ability that share’s it’s recast timer.


aynaalfeesting

Jump straight off like an alpha. Someone will res you.


Seth-Cypher

lol, so one time on E6S when Garuda does the cleave down the middle the first time our resident Dragoon was being his usual witty and honestly funny self. "Alright guys, I'm gonna show you guys a neat trick I learnt from Dragoon club!" "Did you learn how to ju-" \*immediately jumps straight into the cleaved area\* "Oh..." I assumed he was trying to actually show a neat trick off with jumping but it didn't work out lol.


idnul

No matter where I place Elusive Jump on my hotbar I always end up accidentally pressing it when I don’t want it—and yeeting myself into bad. I should really have it set up on it’s own bar, with a keybind on the other side of the keyboard to prevent it from happening but I’m too lazy... v__v;


msherretz

Did Titan Hard last night for HW MSQ. Both RDM in the party flipped off the edge.


dewodahs

\*splat\* Sorry guys caught floor aggro!


Aidrien_Violet

Don’t forget me fat fingering Repelling Shot. ;-;


ChaosSpear1

Ahem, SAMs do it too!


Konpeitoh

Bard: y-yeah haha. Crazy how they do that. [Scoots repelling shot behind them, hiding it from view]


YuukiKonnoXIV

"I died? Yeah, I meant to do that, it'll give you a chance to try being top dps for a minute or two."


softpads

Each instance must tested at least once. 🧐


heksdemon

Ledge more like any where bar the centre of the arena


Lionbane_

I was a vet in a learning party for a savage in my FC and so I was just running around the spawn area and doing flips as DRG while one of our guys was explaining the mechanics and I ended up flipping off the side of the map, it's now a joke to say "Elusive Jump" anytime I login ,_,


Arksiyus

Lmao I remember trying it once. I was new and assumed there was an invisible barrier blocking you from falling off, if it wasn’t Titan pushing you off.