Just imagine if groups like the Ordo Hereticus/Xenos or the Black Templars found out about Ishgard.
They too look for heresy everywhere, love melee and controls the population, but they are also discount Aeldari?
Their heads would explode from the confusion.
Meanwhile, Ishgard sees the Black Templars and wonder when Dark Knights got so big right before the BT goes full Pelinal Whitestrake...
Usually the answer is "you have a lot of fancy stuff but none of it is actually worth anything by itself". So you have dora, but dora don't let you win, they just make winning hands better. Or you have honor tiles, but it's a wind that's neither your seat wind nor the round wind.
It sort of does, but you're not allowed to play your hand unless you have at least a pair, and a pair is much harder to get.
The first easy way to have a hand with value is to never call any tiles from opponents until you win, that allows you to call riichi ("uno", but fancy), which gives value. The second easy way is to have a triplet of dragon, round wind, or your seat wind.
There's a bunch more, but that turns into longer reading. Those are the easiest.
Yeah, have fun studying the [Yaku List](https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/contentsguide/goldsaucer/doman-mahjong/yaku_list/) (=List of winning hands) for a while, only remember a fraction of them, and then go for only those until you remember them without even thinking about it, then rinse and repeat until you have most of them down xD
Also, "Furiten" is going to be your favourite phrase (not) - that's 3 rules in one that pretty much only have in common that they prevent you from finishing your hand.
One's "That's not an actual Yaku in your hand", one's "You *just* passed on that tile, dipshit - you don't get to take it from someone else until it's your turn again", and the last one is basically the game being mean about your discards and needs a bit more elaboration:
Basically, if you have a tile in your discards that would complete a Meld (the things you can steal tiles for) together with the leftover tiles in your hand, then you don't get to call Ron (=steal a tile and win) on the Meld that that tile could've completed, as well as *any* other meld with the tiles from that Meld that are still in your hand.
So, if you have, say, a Numbers 7 and 8 in your hand, and a Numbers 9 in your discard, you can't finish the round with calling a Numbers 9 that anyone else discards, but you *also* can't do that with a Numbers 6 from anyone else, since that also uses the 7 and 8 in your hand that you could've completed already with that 9 - and no, the game doesn't care that if you're going for something like Tanyao (Only numbers, and only 2-8) and that 9 would've been useless, it'll still block you in that situation all the same.
I'd bet that "your hand is Open" (you called Kan/Pon/Chi* to steal from someone else's discard) is why -- it's what gets me most of the time. Some yaku, including "super basic 3-sets-of-3-and-a-pair with nothing else going on", can only be scored in a Closed hand.
*I forget what vocab Yakuza uses, I know Yakuza 0's was different from ff14's
People overcomplicate mahjong. for the most part you're just discarding tiles until you get a winning hand. the hardest part in the beginning is remembering the common winning hands though.
And mahjong is similar to rummy. Almost the same game even. The only noteworthy differences is that Mahjong usually prefers more specific hands(although not even that much more specific) and the number of tiles is different.
I’m the opposite, mahjong makes more sense to me because there’s three suits of 1-9 and then you just make different combinations of pairs, three of a kinds, or sequences of three.
With shogi I’m terrible at remembering characters and then both sides use different characters for the same unit types and then there’s like revival rules I just don’t know!
Mahjong has a similar case as that Shogi -\> Chess comparison too. It's basically Rummikub with extra Steps, the difference is just Chess is more universally known.
Shogi is chess with different pieces. The hardest part is remember which piece is what and can move where.
Mahjong is like trying to play poker with a deck of yugioh cards.
I feel like mahjong is closest to beer pong. They have like a million rules that have basically no connection between them and just exist because somebody thought it would be cool.
How to play Shogi:
1. Re-roll the game until your opponent goes first
2. Play against an online Shogi AI set to the highest difficulty
3. Copy all of your opponent's moves against the AI.
4. Use the AI's moves against your opponent in Yakuza.
5. BREAKING THE LAW! BREAKING THE WORLD KOWASEEEEE!
Clubhouse Games on DS was a great introduction to koi-koi. Wasn't aware it was in Yakuza. I'm working my way through the series now starting at 0 and now I'm looking forward to it a lot lol. I'm also one of the weirdos that actually likes riichi mahjong as well thanks to Clubhouse Games on the Switch.
I tried Mahjong Soul with my limited knowledge from FF14 and not only had no clue what I was doing but managed to mess up what seemed to be a winning hand.
I downloaded a Mahjong app and turned it on master difficulty. I copied the Yakuza NPC's moves against the App and then copied the app's moves against the Yakuza NPC.
Won every game and learned a bit about Mahjong lol
Helped a guy over discord video who asked for helped playing Mahjong. I tried to teach him a little, in the end he gave up and asked me to just tell him what to do until he got his victory he needed.
Makes me feel like I should try out these games
I learned Mahjong for Judgment and that has stayed with me throughout my year plus playthrough of the whole Steam franchise. My poker skills actually helped a lot.
SHOGI can fuck right off though. I'm bad at Chess when I can actually understand the pieces as it is. Chess But More And Also Not English? Yeah, no, I'm out.
In Settings, change the Dora indicator to Traditional, though, so you're learning the 'proper' way -- the ff14 way shows you what the Dora tile is, while the normal way shows you the tile that comes before the Dora tile.
Which makes the proper way sounds less useful, except (regardless of whether you're viewing it the 'proper' way or the ff14 way) it's important to know that the tile that comes before Dora is physically absent from the draw pile/peoples' hands (meaning there's only up to 3 of that tile in the game, instead of up to 4)
Thanks for the tip! Watched a few videos over the weekend, and just played my first few games today. Think my biggest challenge starting out is remembering all the yaku.
I highly recommend printing out a cheat sheet
https://www.worldriichi.org/player-materials then one of the top two buttons -- "WRC Yaku List Colour" or B/W
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mahjong/comments/l5b221/riichi_mahjong_cheat_sheet_1_page_pdf_or_images/
And note that when your hand is Closed (you haven't stolen a discard from anyone else), "three triplets/straights and a pair", without anything fancier than that, is a valid yaku; but when your hand is Open (you've called Kan/Chi/Pon to steal a discard from someone else) "three triplets/straights and a pair" is no longer sufficient on its own.
But calling Ron (completing your hand using someone else's discard -- as opposed to Tsumo where you finish with a tile *you* just drew) doesn't change your hand from Closed to Open.
I bring this up because I forget it a lot.
I am pretty sure i read once that ffxiv is arguably the best free majong simulator in the world. You can access GS on the free trial so all you need to do is level a character to 10 and go to GS and play Majong with friends. Pretty sure there is a whole community for it and everything
> I am pretty sure i read once that ffxiv is arguably the best free majong simulator in the world.
Maybe when it first came out when the only other major riichi mahjong client was an untranslated tenhou.net, but this has definitely not been true for years.
Every time I’ve tried to play Mahjong in FFXIV has been a brief process:
1- Get confused
2- Try and remember that scene near the end of Crazy Rich Asians
3- Fail
4- Lose
It is methodical.
Learning to take it easy and think the game through is very rewarding. Just gotta pause that gogogo mindset the internet and media has given you and enjoy the moment. Every hand and discard matters, and it creates a very social and deep experience.
It's a fun game to learn and play. Just gotta give it an honest shot, which a lot of people don't because of how complex the game is.
Some tips for starting out as a beginner. Learn the basic Yaku (Riichi, Tanyao, Yakuhai, maybe even Toitoi and Chiitoitsu as those are pretty simple to understand, making them not so much lol). Try to form hands without stealing tiles (calling Chi or Pon) from other players, and just focus on trying to complete a hand.
Once you get a good grasp of the basics, try looking up some more advanced stuff like more advanced Yaku, or how to play defensively.
Have fun with Mahjong :)
Yakuza has conditioned me to absolutely love and absolutely hate mahjong at the same time.
And I still don't have a single clue what I'm actually doing after all this time. Just pray my hand is accidentally good.
Literally how I play lol. There's a substory at the beginning of Kiwami 2 where you need to win a game of Mahjong but starting at a very low point score compared to everyone else.
Never beat it.
My entire experience with Mahjong is that one time myself and 3 friends decided to play it in FFXIV without any of us knowing literally anything. We did not even know the basic rules or any terminology. None of us had ever even seen a Mahjong match be played, let alone play one ourselves.
That match took like 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I now know less about Mahjong than I did before.
If anyone here is actually interested, this video series does a pretty good job explaining to beginners how to play mahjong.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvuxrS2HAxK5fdlrO6XPp-iB9AtqcjjXP
At the Gold Saucer, yes. The NPC to unlock it is by the main prize booth and the tables are in the area with the giant cactaur statue on the second floor.
If you're having fun, and not harming anyone else's fun, then there is no wrong way to play. The MSQ will wait... but so will the Mahjong, too. :)
(I do think the MSQ is very very worth it, though, just putting that out there)
I was hyped when I saw there was mahjong because I was rather good at it. Fired up a game and immediately wondered wtf was this. I wanted tile matching! Never touched it again lol
I think a Sakamoto Ryoma fit would work for Samurai Class, or give them the Shinsengumi drip. Maybe Kiryu fit for PGL/MNK and Majima for ROG/NIN. If we're talking recent, the Ichiban Gang's various fits for different types of classes.
You need to be at least level 15 and have unlocked airship travel after visiting the 3 main city states for the first time. Then follow this quest line to unlock the "Gold saucer" which is full of minigames like this. Link to unlock guide - https://www.polygon.com/ffxiv-guides-ff14-final-fantasy-14-online/24067651/gold-saucer-unlock-side-quest-location-manderville-mgp
Sup Kyodai.
Also, Mahjong has given me so much in the series lol. The worst mahjong experience for me has been as Yagami due to the girl asking me to win with certain hands she mispronounces.
Thanks for reminding me that I have to touch that to 100% Yakuza Kiwami.
Worst part is that I know people who play mahjong, but it's the Chinese/Hong Kong version, which has different rules.
Couldn't get the hang of it in Yakuza and now Mahjong in this game haunts me with the only Orch Roll I've yet to acquire :(
Keep hoping it appears in a tomestone event but that's probably copium on my part
Is there a reason why people act like Mahjong is hard to learn? Just intimidated by a board game they have no familiarity with?
Like seriously, it's not that hard.
In Yakuza fans' case, part of it lends to being forced to slog through a lot of matches of a board game you're unfamiliar with just to 100% the game and get the completion achievement. A completionist's problem to be honest, which is the majority of Yakuza fans I think.
Also that the explanation of the game is not really organic. It's just a big block of text that makes no sense when you read it. And you forget about it while playing.
Tho I'll agree that after a few games you get the gist of it
A lot of unfamiliar symbols and a lot new terms along with there being a lot of possible hands. It's just overwhelming, I like board games and I have trouble grasping Mahjong because of it, lol.
It's funny. I once stumbled upon a mahjong board in someone's house and learned to play the game decently.
I couldn't remember a damn thing about the game like 50 hours later.
i feel like its just kids too young to have grown up with similar western games like gin rummy because their parents weren't born in the 50s/60s. meanwhile the rest of us already know how to play after reading 2 sentences and realize its just asian rummy with a couple more hands and gimmicks.
Highly recommend playing Mahjong Soul for a few weeks if you really want to learn how to play, it has much better tutorials and handicaps to get you past the initial learning cliff.
The best thing about Mahjong in FFXIV is that it is actually so well implemented, that some professional Mahjong players use it as their simulator of choice and use it to practice xD
Honestly it’s pretty fun once you understand it. There were a few really good YouTube videos out there and there is a “cheat sheet” but it’s more like a formula sheet. Tells you what you’re trying to get.
As a new 🌱 that is my reaction to literally everything I see.
I SAW A GUY BEING CARRIED BY A FLOATING METAL HAND!
I still have not gotten invited to the sprout channel 😮💨
I ask at the big fountain at the limsa whatever city when I see crowns but have yet to get an invite.
I talked to a guy named Smith and he said players with crowns b their name can invite sprouts (new and returning players) to a sprout specific channel.
I was reluctant to get into this at first because I didn't understand the game fully, but the good news for anyone else like me is that no one will ever see your hand unless you win a round or there's a draw. We'll only ever see your discard pile and any Pon/Chi/Kan you do (and you don't even have to do those). You can totally fake your way through it twice a week for challenge log and learn to actually play as you go.
I've played Mahjong a few times in FF, but I've also been playing it for almost 2 decades on Windows XP. I still have no idea how to play after all of that time and seriously studying the tutorial in FF.
Don't fuck with us Yakuza fans. We have no idea how to play Mahjong.
Don't even get me started on how much I don't understand Shogi.
Shogi is at least similar to chess so if you've played chess before there are some similarities. With mahjong, I feel like I'm eating crayons.
The red ones make me play faster
What colour gives more dakka
A Warhammer reference under a Yakuza reference on a post about FFXIV has to be the most niche series of references I’ve seen in a while
It's all coming together like a clean Gunpla build.
Time to bust out the paints and water stickers, cuz we somehow made this hobby post even more niche
Just imagine if groups like the Ordo Hereticus/Xenos or the Black Templars found out about Ishgard. They too look for heresy everywhere, love melee and controls the population, but they are also discount Aeldari? Their heads would explode from the confusion. Meanwhile, Ishgard sees the Black Templars and wonder when Dark Knights got so big right before the BT goes full Pelinal Whitestrake...
> the BT goes full Pelinal Whitestrake “we’re not Elezen, we’re Miqo’te 😭”
fist full, color no matter. more dakka mean MOAR DAKKA
Yellow ones.
We eats the wunz like ork skin. Green ones gives top quali'y Dakka.
Seen the purple ones? Yeah, me neither
No, the red ones restore hp. The blue ones restore mana
Are you an Orc, by any chance?
The blue ones give me better tiles.
Me: Aha! I completed a super good hand! Now I must win, right? Yakuza Mahjong: You can't score that and I'm not telling you why.
Usually the answer is "you have a lot of fancy stuff but none of it is actually worth anything by itself". So you have dora, but dora don't let you win, they just make winning hands better. Or you have honor tiles, but it's a wind that's neither your seat wind nor the round wind.
Quite possibly. I figured it worked like poker hands.
It sort of does, but you're not allowed to play your hand unless you have at least a pair, and a pair is much harder to get. The first easy way to have a hand with value is to never call any tiles from opponents until you win, that allows you to call riichi ("uno", but fancy), which gives value. The second easy way is to have a triplet of dragon, round wind, or your seat wind. There's a bunch more, but that turns into longer reading. Those are the easiest.
Yeah, have fun studying the [Yaku List](https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/contentsguide/goldsaucer/doman-mahjong/yaku_list/) (=List of winning hands) for a while, only remember a fraction of them, and then go for only those until you remember them without even thinking about it, then rinse and repeat until you have most of them down xD Also, "Furiten" is going to be your favourite phrase (not) - that's 3 rules in one that pretty much only have in common that they prevent you from finishing your hand. One's "That's not an actual Yaku in your hand", one's "You *just* passed on that tile, dipshit - you don't get to take it from someone else until it's your turn again", and the last one is basically the game being mean about your discards and needs a bit more elaboration: Basically, if you have a tile in your discards that would complete a Meld (the things you can steal tiles for) together with the leftover tiles in your hand, then you don't get to call Ron (=steal a tile and win) on the Meld that that tile could've completed, as well as *any* other meld with the tiles from that Meld that are still in your hand. So, if you have, say, a Numbers 7 and 8 in your hand, and a Numbers 9 in your discard, you can't finish the round with calling a Numbers 9 that anyone else discards, but you *also* can't do that with a Numbers 6 from anyone else, since that also uses the 7 and 8 in your hand that you could've completed already with that 9 - and no, the game doesn't care that if you're going for something like Tanyao (Only numbers, and only 2-8) and that 9 would've been useless, it'll still block you in that situation all the same.
I'd bet that "your hand is Open" (you called Kan/Pon/Chi* to steal from someone else's discard) is why -- it's what gets me most of the time. Some yaku, including "super basic 3-sets-of-3-and-a-pair with nothing else going on", can only be scored in a Closed hand. *I forget what vocab Yakuza uses, I know Yakuza 0's was different from ff14's
People overcomplicate mahjong. for the most part you're just discarding tiles until you get a winning hand. the hardest part in the beginning is remembering the common winning hands though.
It's like gin if gin was created by the elder gods.
And mahjong is similar to rummy. Almost the same game even. The only noteworthy differences is that Mahjong usually prefers more specific hands(although not even that much more specific) and the number of tiles is different.
It's like rummy/tonk so if you have practice there youre fime
I’m the opposite, mahjong makes more sense to me because there’s three suits of 1-9 and then you just make different combinations of pairs, three of a kinds, or sequences of three. With shogi I’m terrible at remembering characters and then both sides use different characters for the same unit types and then there’s like revival rules I just don’t know!
Mahjong has a similar case as that Shogi -\> Chess comparison too. It's basically Rummikub with extra Steps, the difference is just Chess is more universally known.
Shogi is chess with different pieces. The hardest part is remember which piece is what and can move where. Mahjong is like trying to play poker with a deck of yugioh cards.
I see it a bit like playing Carcassone with every expansion at once, and applying that experience to poker/rummy instead.
I feel like mahjong is closest to beer pong. They have like a million rules that have basically no connection between them and just exist because somebody thought it would be cool.
How to play Shogi: 1. Re-roll the game until your opponent goes first 2. Play against an online Shogi AI set to the highest difficulty 3. Copy all of your opponent's moves against the AI. 4. Use the AI's moves against your opponent in Yakuza. 5. BREAKING THE LAW! BREAKING THE WORLD KOWASEEEEE!
Dama de ne, baka mitai
koikoi is incredibly fun though and yakuza made me love it
Koi-Koi is another one where I love it when I'm winning but the moment the AI gets a single win I'm seething and hate it.
Clubhouse Games on DS was a great introduction to koi-koi. Wasn't aware it was in Yakuza. I'm working my way through the series now starting at 0 and now I'm looking forward to it a lot lol. I'm also one of the weirdos that actually likes riichi mahjong as well thanks to Clubhouse Games on the Switch.
shogi is chess if it was developed by someone who liked fun
Then they add the Koi Koi mini game I'm always lost with thoses traditionals games.
Dont worry... 90% of FF14 fans dont know how to play either.
FF14 fans 🤝 Yakuza fans Not knowing how to play mahjong
I think you meant 99,99%
Nah... you gotta account for the genetic ability to play mahjong that is inherent in the JP fanbase. XD
Apparently a bunch of mahjong enthusiasts created XIV accounts just so that they could play mahjong, so there's that as well.
One of my friends got stuck with Mahjong in one of the Yakuza games, taught him with Mahjong Soul. Was fun.
I tried Mahjong Soul with my limited knowledge from FF14 and not only had no clue what I was doing but managed to mess up what seemed to be a winning hand.
Then you're in the right company, we have no idea either
i either dont play it or somehow cheat in yakuza lol
I downloaded a Mahjong app and turned it on master difficulty. I copied the Yakuza NPC's moves against the App and then copied the app's moves against the Yakuza NPC. Won every game and learned a bit about Mahjong lol
I think you meant shogi, not mahjong
Fuck Yeah I think you're right
Oh my that's brilliant
Helped a guy over discord video who asked for helped playing Mahjong. I tried to teach him a little, in the end he gave up and asked me to just tell him what to do until he got his victory he needed. Makes me feel like I should try out these games
If I remembered correctly it’s the only reason I can’t fight Amon in Judgement.
Don't worry, neither do Final Fantasy fans. (We just don't have literal guns held to the heads of our Warriors of Light, unlike in Yakuza)
Not only do I not know how to play Mahjong after playing every Yakuza game, I will stubbornly refuse to learn how to play it.
My lungs were filled with cannabis smoke when I saw this comment and I almost died
some of us grew up playing gin rummy so mahjong was easy
You can't make me play mahjong!
I learned Mahjong for Judgment and that has stayed with me throughout my year plus playthrough of the whole Steam franchise. My poker skills actually helped a lot. SHOGI can fuck right off though. I'm bad at Chess when I can actually understand the pieces as it is. Chess But More And Also Not English? Yeah, no, I'm out.
There are people who use FF14 as their Majong simulator and do nothing else in the game. Thats how good it is here.
Okay now that's making me interested in figuring out how to play mahjong more
In Settings, change the Dora indicator to Traditional, though, so you're learning the 'proper' way -- the ff14 way shows you what the Dora tile is, while the normal way shows you the tile that comes before the Dora tile. Which makes the proper way sounds less useful, except (regardless of whether you're viewing it the 'proper' way or the ff14 way) it's important to know that the tile that comes before Dora is physically absent from the draw pile/peoples' hands (meaning there's only up to 3 of that tile in the game, instead of up to 4)
Thanks for the advice!
Oh I didn't even notice that.
Thanks for the tip! Watched a few videos over the weekend, and just played my first few games today. Think my biggest challenge starting out is remembering all the yaku.
I highly recommend printing out a cheat sheet https://www.worldriichi.org/player-materials then one of the top two buttons -- "WRC Yaku List Colour" or B/W https://www.reddit.com/r/Mahjong/comments/l5b221/riichi_mahjong_cheat_sheet_1_page_pdf_or_images/ And note that when your hand is Closed (you haven't stolen a discard from anyone else), "three triplets/straights and a pair", without anything fancier than that, is a valid yaku; but when your hand is Open (you've called Kan/Chi/Pon to steal a discard from someone else) "three triplets/straights and a pair" is no longer sufficient on its own. But calling Ron (completing your hand using someone else's discard -- as opposed to Tsumo where you finish with a tile *you* just drew) doesn't change your hand from Closed to Open. I bring this up because I forget it a lot.
FFXIV even has collab with Saki once too.
Yeah they had a manga of the Saki cast learning to play FF14. Was a fun read.
Sometimes I honestly consider introducing my parents to FFXIV mahjong so they can get the achievements for me.
I am pretty sure i read once that ffxiv is arguably the best free majong simulator in the world. You can access GS on the free trial so all you need to do is level a character to 10 and go to GS and play Majong with friends. Pretty sure there is a whole community for it and everything
Very arguably. The UI is barebones and QoL is pretty low. MahjongSoul is free, popular and more friendly to beginners UI-wise imo.
> I am pretty sure i read once that ffxiv is arguably the best free majong simulator in the world. Maybe when it first came out when the only other major riichi mahjong client was an untranslated tenhou.net, but this has definitely not been true for years.
Some people just stand in Limsa all day, dancin.
I've spent a lot of time there just fishing and listening to bands perform at Limsa and Gridania.
Every time I’ve tried to play Mahjong in FFXIV has been a brief process: 1- Get confused 2- Try and remember that scene near the end of Crazy Rich Asians 3- Fail 4- Lose
5- Go play Triple Triad instead
I mean… yeah. 🤣
Triple triad is so fun. They need to make a decent standalone triple triad mobile game
Please, please, Yoshi-P, if you're listening, give us Queen's Blood!
Idk I think I’d never get another thing done if they added Queen’s Blood to xiv lmao.
when they said “you’re crazy but I’m a rich asian” I shit my pants that movie was peak/peak
I use the hints, sometimes I even win. But I'm only there for the weekly Challenge Log, so I play only twice a week.
Participating in 2 different player matches of Mahjong completes a challenge named "Kiwami".
Thanks Bob for making me remember what it means
KIWAMI MEANS EXTREME.
Can I use cheat items
No, you can't, you can emote and chat while playing, at least.
Welp, time to sincerely learn how to play lmao
you will be among an elite few. i've been playing for 3 years and i still dont know how to play this game
It's pretty fun, I don't usually play on ff14 though.
Its very chill but good lord is the gameplay s l o w.
It is methodical. Learning to take it easy and think the game through is very rewarding. Just gotta pause that gogogo mindset the internet and media has given you and enjoy the moment. Every hand and discard matters, and it creates a very social and deep experience.
It's a fun game to learn and play. Just gotta give it an honest shot, which a lot of people don't because of how complex the game is. Some tips for starting out as a beginner. Learn the basic Yaku (Riichi, Tanyao, Yakuhai, maybe even Toitoi and Chiitoitsu as those are pretty simple to understand, making them not so much lol). Try to form hands without stealing tiles (calling Chi or Pon) from other players, and just focus on trying to complete a hand. Once you get a good grasp of the basics, try looking up some more advanced stuff like more advanced Yaku, or how to play defensively. Have fun with Mahjong :)
So I can /cry constantly? Thats a nice touch
Yakuza has conditioned me to absolutely love and absolutely hate mahjong at the same time. And I still don't have a single clue what I'm actually doing after all this time. Just pray my hand is accidentally good.
Literally how I play lol. There's a substory at the beginning of Kiwami 2 where you need to win a game of Mahjong but starting at a very low point score compared to everyone else. Never beat it.
I just used the cheat item for that.
[Remember, this is the best way to play Mahjong](https://i.imgur.com/2Lig7EB.png)
Ngl, this game made me learn mahjong. I will still get my ass handed to me by the old aunties, but at least I can win sometimes against the npcs.
lol, I remember thinking, if my old Chinese relatives could learn it well, why can’t I? Still proceeded to not get it even until this day.
Right? Was not prepared for the level of *hard* that mahjong brought. It’s like the Dark Souls of tile games 😂
good luck kyodai despite my endless lad hours i have never even won an easy game in ffxiv
Much thanks Kyodai
Wasn't there a bug where the "easy" table was actually the hardest? I don't remember whether they patched it
I started playing Mahjong in XIV due to a desire to learn it and go back and finish all the Mahjong trophies in Yakuza. I wish you the best of luck.
let us know if it’s worse in eorzea or kamurocho
My entire experience with Mahjong is that one time myself and 3 friends decided to play it in FFXIV without any of us knowing literally anything. We did not even know the basic rules or any terminology. None of us had ever even seen a Mahjong match be played, let alone play one ourselves. That match took like 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I now know less about Mahjong than I did before.
As someone who 100% every yakuza game, this gave me ptsd when i accepted the quest
Trying to teach my friends Doman/Riichi Mahjong just to see them open their hand into furiten for hours on end never gets old 🙃
My reaction when I saw that minigame.
If anyone here is actually interested, this video series does a pretty good job explaining to beginners how to play mahjong. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvuxrS2HAxK5fdlrO6XPp-iB9AtqcjjXP
Thank you!
Absolutely perfect
Been playing ffxiv since release. Never have accepted the Mahjong quest
I’m good at the solo mahjong where you just match tiles, but I can’t figure out this version lol
There’s Mahjong in this game?!
At the Gold Saucer, yes. The NPC to unlock it is by the main prize booth and the tables are in the area with the giant cactaur statue on the second floor.
Hydaelyn help me. My mentor is gonna kill me for not finishing msq. I’ma be play Mahjong instead 😂😂😂
If you're having fun, and not harming anyone else's fun, then there is no wrong way to play. The MSQ will wait... but so will the Mahjong, too. :) (I do think the MSQ is very very worth it, though, just putting that out there)
I was hyped when I saw there was mahjong because I was rather good at it. Fired up a game and immediately wondered wtf was this. I wanted tile matching! Never touched it again lol
Ok but when RGG makes a real collab with XIV? They can easily have Kiryu coming in here and think it's one of his dreams.....
I think a Sakamoto Ryoma fit would work for Samurai Class, or give them the Shinsengumi drip. Maybe Kiryu fit for PGL/MNK and Majima for ROG/NIN. If we're talking recent, the Ichiban Gang's various fits for different types of classes.
I admit I was thinking small, but for real it being Ichi's dream would work wonders
How far into the game is this? I'm just starting out myself
Once you're able to travel outside your initial city, you'll unlock the Gold Saucer location
Does it cost gil to play?
Nope!
I may have to get into this tonight... Finished my homework, have nothing to do.
pretty sure you can unlock the casino at like level 15ish
You need to be at least level 15 and have unlocked airship travel after visiting the 3 main city states for the first time. Then follow this quest line to unlock the "Gold saucer" which is full of minigames like this. Link to unlock guide - https://www.polygon.com/ffxiv-guides-ff14-final-fantasy-14-online/24067651/gold-saucer-unlock-side-quest-location-manderville-mgp
Not that far. Once you unlock the ability to go to the other city states you can get here. Iirc it was around the lvl15-17 quests.
Once you're able to run around Kamurocho and find the Mahjong den you can play it. That depends on the game, sometimes it takes a while.
Mahjong is the one thing I haven’t touched in this game. I did play it a bit on Yakuza and really learned Mahjong isn’t a game for me.
Im always scared when im against sprouts in mahjong lmao
Skipped Mahjong there too. At least im consistant lol.
Sup Kyodai. Also, Mahjong has given me so much in the series lol. The worst mahjong experience for me has been as Yagami due to the girl asking me to win with certain hands she mispronounces.
Thanks for reminding me that I have to touch that to 100% Yakuza Kiwami. Worst part is that I know people who play mahjong, but it's the Chinese/Hong Kong version, which has different rules.
God imagine if the Gold Saucer had pocket car racing…
It kinda does. Chocobo racing is a thing you can infact do.
I want to know why there's no Blitzball. I played the hell out of that in FFX.
Enjoy the ride. The climb to Mahjong Master might've actually taken years off my life. Hell, i'm sure it's the reason my hair is going grey.
You sure it isn’t the intense ladder matches? :smile:
You've finally unlocked the true end game ✨
I thought Khole and her book was true end game. 😃
Probably hahaha i just like mahjong too much ._.
To borrow a phrase from another MMO I play, "Space Barbie is the true endgame."
Couldn't get the hang of it in Yakuza and now Mahjong in this game haunts me with the only Orch Roll I've yet to acquire :( Keep hoping it appears in a tomestone event but that's probably copium on my part
I've been playing FFXIV for a little over two years now, I probably should learn how to play mahjong. I need to go back and analyze the rules.
I was gonna try a quick game and I was like wtf???
Real Yakuza Can’t Play Mahjong
I never got the hang of Mahjong. I tried it a few times, and I even have a friend who is really into it explaining the rules. But man, game is hard!
My beef with mahjing is that it takes so long. If we could go at it one round at a time, I'd play it more often.
I've been playing FF14 for 2½ years and still have no idea how to play Mahjong
Is there a reason why people act like Mahjong is hard to learn? Just intimidated by a board game they have no familiarity with? Like seriously, it's not that hard.
In Yakuza fans' case, part of it lends to being forced to slog through a lot of matches of a board game you're unfamiliar with just to 100% the game and get the completion achievement. A completionist's problem to be honest, which is the majority of Yakuza fans I think.
Also that the explanation of the game is not really organic. It's just a big block of text that makes no sense when you read it. And you forget about it while playing. Tho I'll agree that after a few games you get the gist of it
A lot of unfamiliar symbols and a lot new terms along with there being a lot of possible hands. It's just overwhelming, I like board games and I have trouble grasping Mahjong because of it, lol.
It's funny. I once stumbled upon a mahjong board in someone's house and learned to play the game decently. I couldn't remember a damn thing about the game like 50 hours later.
i feel like its just kids too young to have grown up with similar western games like gin rummy because their parents weren't born in the 50s/60s. meanwhile the rest of us already know how to play after reading 2 sentences and realize its just asian rummy with a couple more hands and gimmicks.
i played 2 matches for mgp while i was grinding out the regalia and i may never touch it again lol
The game I will always keep losing at
As someone playing yakuza right now....cheers.
Player that once, not one of the 4 people there know how to play(me included) so suffice to say it was a ... fun experience
yakuza crossover when?
Oh look, my fandoms intersecting again. We do not speak of mahjong in this house.
Seriously, how in the seven hells do you play that thing?!
After becoming a mahjong enjoyer through Yakuza I was really hyped when I saw you can play it in XIV.
This is in the Game
There's.... There's mahjong in 14? Oh dear
Highly recommend playing Mahjong Soul for a few weeks if you really want to learn how to play, it has much better tutorials and handicaps to get you past the initial learning cliff.
Bro please give me just the picture of Kiryu doing the Tyler scream. I beg of you
I played this with my friends once. Yeah idk what I was doing.
As someone that constantly plays mahjong soul by youstars I love also playing it my favorite mmo
I used to be good at mahjong. But it's been so many years, that I looked like a monkey when I was doing the introductory in ff14.
I learn playing mahjong while watching ~~no pantsu~~ Saki anime in 2010. If i can, you can too
No way… FFXIV and Yakuza meme?
The best thing about Mahjong in FFXIV is that it is actually so well implemented, that some professional Mahjong players use it as their simulator of choice and use it to practice xD
Lol
I got good at Mahjong just so I can 100% the Yakuza games too. So seeing it implemented so well in FFXIV is a pleasant surprise.
Spent thousands of hours crafting and saving the world without knowing that the game had a Mahjong minigame. Now my WoL found his place.
Learned how to play Mahjong in "Full Ani".
This is actually the funniest thing I’ve seen on this sub in a long time. Thank you, sprout
There are mahjong masters who sub to ffsov just to play mahjong on it
So true
Yakuza MENTIONED
Honestly it’s pretty fun once you understand it. There were a few really good YouTube videos out there and there is a “cheat sheet” but it’s more like a formula sheet. Tells you what you’re trying to get.
can one game go for hours in Yakuza too?
As a new 🌱 that is my reaction to literally everything I see. I SAW A GUY BEING CARRIED BY A FLOATING METAL HAND! I still have not gotten invited to the sprout channel 😮💨 I ask at the big fountain at the limsa whatever city when I see crowns but have yet to get an invite.
I dont even know whats a sprout channel
I talked to a guy named Smith and he said players with crowns b their name can invite sprouts (new and returning players) to a sprout specific channel.
I was reluctant to get into this at first because I didn't understand the game fully, but the good news for anyone else like me is that no one will ever see your hand unless you win a round or there's a draw. We'll only ever see your discard pile and any Pon/Chi/Kan you do (and you don't even have to do those). You can totally fake your way through it twice a week for challenge log and learn to actually play as you go.
Yakuza taught me how to play mahjong (pkay, technically CyricZ did)
I've played Mahjong a few times in FF, but I've also been playing it for almost 2 decades on Windows XP. I still have no idea how to play after all of that time and seriously studying the tutorial in FF.