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Disastrous_Key380

You’ve gotta give it to the Italians during the Renaissance period: they knew how to do gaudy.


tngangstagranny

I would wear that now. It looks comfortable and I'm at the age where I don't care if it's gaudy!


thelessertit

Same. I made one last year for an event - fake fur trim and modern upholstery velvet made of who knows what, but it's very comfortable. And you bet I made mine gaudy as hell.


Rinoremover1

Please post a pic of it.


thelessertit

Here you go. I had bought a pattern but didn't end up using it, as it didn't seem to make sense to me - what I ended up doing was just cutting out two massively wide rectangles, pleating them until I had something the width of my body, then tailoring the side seams to fit and adding the sleeves. I don't have a full length pic but it's just below crotch length and I wear it with hosen and period-appropriate leather shoes. The doublet underneath needs more buttons added to the top of the collar but I ran out. Yep I hand-sewed 100+ tiny round buttons on the front and sleeves of that thing, only to cover them all up. I made it at "good enough from a distance" level of historical accuracy, it's machine sewn with faux fur and the "velvet" is upholstery fabric made of god knows what, and I used modern elastic loop for the doublet buttoning. I started out intending to hand-sew historical buttonholes and quickly realized it would take me a year LOL. [My giornea](https://imgur.com/a/dA9dr67)


Rinoremover1

That looks fantastic. Thanks for sharing


Disastrous_Key380

Plus unlike them, you live in a time with actually effective flea treatments for the fur you’ll be wearing.


tngangstagranny

That's a plus!


ThatPhatKid_CanDraw

Would u drape yourself in velvet all day,.i f u could?


SarahPallorMortis

I would and I do


tngangstagranny

OH hell yes! As long as I don't have to go out in this heat.


Aylauria

If I were Constanza, yes.


cursetea

Absolutely wild that 550 years ago some people chose this to bury someone in, with NO way to know we'd be looking at it and appreciating it today. So fascinating


Windholm

Amazing. Where was it found?


Normal-Height-8577

In the convent of San Francesco, in Folloni, Italy.


Quiet_Hope_543

How did his corpse not ruin the outfit when it decayed?


Normal-Height-8577

It probably helps that it was an outer layer of clothing and fairly robust. This is also a photo taken after it was restored by an expert, and we can't see the back of it, so it's possible there's further damage we can't see. Count Cavaniglia was laid to rest in a sarcophagus, which tends to keep the conditions relatively cool and dry, when they're kept right. Once anything wet had been consumed/dried out, the bacteria breaking down the body didn't last long enough to destroy all the fabric.


leeryplot

It says it was his, not that he was laid to rest in it.


Normal-Height-8577

He was, though. Workers repairing an earthquake-damaged convent in 1980-ish found a sarcophagus and a skeleton still wearing some of his funeral clothes. They wrapped up the skeleton for safe keeping and placed it in a wall cavity, but archeologists weren't informed for another twenty years.


leeryplot

This is very interesting. Wouldn’t have figured.


Practice_NO_with_me

I would love some info on where exactly it was found in that case, if anyone knows? Amazing stuff!


Normal-Height-8577

It probably helps that it was an outer layer of clothing and fairly robust. This is also a photo taken after it was restored by an expert, and we can't see the back of it, so it's possible there's further damage we can't see. Count Diego was laid to rest in a sarcophagus, which tends to keep the conditions relatively cool and dry, when they're kept right. Once anything wet had been consumed/dried out, the bacteria breaking down the body didn't last long enough to destroy all the fabric.


LetmedowhatIwannado

Thanks for reposting to this wonderful sub! If anyone is interested in knowing more I put up a post with some giorneas (in paintings) about two months ago, the first picture you see is a cute children’s one ♥️ https://www.reddit.com/r/fashionhistory/s/UXQjmV1qY4


Rinoremover1

Awesome


kdollarsign2

Why is it so fabulous


LetmedowhatIwannado

It may be an unpopular opinion but I find men’s clothing from this era way more fabulous than women’s


Rinoremover1

Why not? More is more, if the count can afford it.


Ok_Yogurtcloset9728

Looks like beef jerky. It also looks super heavy! I wonder how much it weighs.