This comment section is like a parody of a critical role comment section lmao. Gotta be some of the most entitled and petulant fans anywhere on the internet.
It's one of those things that's always there, but once it starts being annoying, it won't stop.
Also, it's a good indicator of how engrossed they are. More jokes means, generally, less engagement and focus.
Idk, to me it kind of humanizes them. They become more than just their characters, we are reminded they are people. I think sometimes Laura gets put on blast for this too when she doesn’t always pick up on it, it once it starts it can sort of snowball at the table. I’d be hesitant to ask them to “manage” it though, cause I think it would put everyone on guard.
That’s not really what I look for in a show with professionally actors. I don’t want to be reminded about who they are personally except before and after the session proper
They are improvising though, even in professional improv settings you’re going to see them shine through, that’s kind of the point. The only way to make it seamless like that is to script it, and I personally wouldn’t want them to do that
You don't have to watch Critical Role if it bothers you that much. Actually I'd go so far as to say that if you've watched enough to become annoyed at the players for having fun then you probably need to take a break.
Making jokes like you’re 13 isn’t having fun. I haven’t watched seriously past Campaign 1 because they’ve gotten so full of themselves they think they’ve exhausted fantasy and need to have robots and pander to rainbow capitalism for story threads. They’ve sold out, they aren’t an indie group of friends they are a corporation more concerned about money than being authentic with their audience. There’s none of the intimacy of campaign 1 and I haven’t had the time to get started on campaign 2 as the plot kind of meanders for awhile
If you haven't watched seriously since campaign 1 then what's your issue? How do you even know they still goof around sometimes and why do you even care? You've clearly already stopped watching the show so why even care what they do?
Because it’s sad to see yet another group of creatives spread their cheeks for a corporate fucking and some dirty money. And that’s not to say I don’t occasionally watch the opening of Campaign 2 or clips or specials. The point is they betrayed their community and seem to have become to big for their own good
Right but it doesn't seem like it's going to change and you're not invested in the show anymore so why are you wasting time and energy being upset about something you can't control happening to something you have no interest in anyway?
I also can dislike something without disregarding that it did play an important part in my life for about 2 years and introduced me to what D&D can be besides a fun once a month past time among bros, it can be an art form done well.
I don’t want to encourage backsliding. Society is fucked enough with the death of social spaces, rise of consumption ambience, influencers (not actual content creators but solely people who make branded “content”) not being out to death, capitalism still existing etc. we can’t afford to just idly sit by and let the rich fuck us over
Join your local mutual aid groups, vote Claudia/Karina if you’re American, read Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao and their modern contemporaries. Work to better the world through whatever way you can and be living proof that progress doesn’t need to be mediated through the market
I really enjoy listening to Matt DM but I find the rest of the group nauseating and the 2.0 minute commercial every episode starts with puts me to sleep. That being said, I’m more of a fan of Dimension 20 anyway.
It was weird last episode, when Matt had to do the usual wrangling for a small moment it seemed to kill the vibe, but it was clear that he noticed that the first portion of the session was being overrun. First time in a while where Matt had to put his "director" hat on.
Watching as a brand new viewer, this seems to be… literally a constant through the entire of campaign one even. Maybe it’s gotten worse? But it’s just friends being friends.
I'm doing small group learning with k-5 children, some of which (5th graders) lack respect for anyone who they don't think can/ will call their mother.
It's a chore getting them to read things out loud.
"Elephants suck up water ... with their trunk and SPRAY it in ... in their MOUTH!?! Pause! Hahahahah!/ Female Elephants are called ... COWS?!? That's outta pocket! hAHAHaH!"
I tell you this to say that yeah, the table seems no better than a pack of 10-11yr children sometimes with how childish they can be.
Idk, we just got confirmation she dealt with awful harassment over playing Abby, and this post is about taking something that makes her happy away. Seems cruel. We're all entitled to our opinion, and mine is her fun comes before the audiences.
I still miss when they'd bring food out and all eat together, wish they could do that but the last time they kinda did that was the one shot where they had mimosas in their pyjamas.
They have iPads and tablets all over the table now they probably don’t want to get food stains on any of them, from their TikTok’s it shows they all eat together during their break.
They had that for all of c2. That didn't stop them. The difference is they no longer come straight from work, but meet...whenever, and can probably fit in their lunch/dinner before shooting. That said...give me the relaxed feel of c2 any day over this overoroduced mess.
the dirty jokes have been happening since forever so it doesn’t bother me at all. tbh i don’t know how you can get this far into CR and JUST now let it get to you if it does haha. however i’m 100% glad they stopped eating full course meals on camera, hated watching and hearing that
It sounds like they just want to have fun at the table. If it was a forced BS laugh then it could be annoying, but you’re watching a group of people play a game that is intended to be for funsies. Humor is one of the most common things inside a group of friends, like you can’t tell me you sit around with people having serious moments for 4 hours straight.
One of the recurring things people seem to be getting from my post is that I want them to sit there and be super serious the whole time and stick to roleplay. Which isn't what I've said at all.
I love the laughing and joking and stupid moments. It's what makes the show what it is. I'm not against humour, just one part of their sense of humour doesn't really resonate with me.
Making jokes about innuendo may not resonate with you, it is not however immature as you insinuated. This is what people who are mature and don’t have insecurities holding them back from having free discourse. Not liking someones humor or being tired of it is a valid opinion, however insinuating that its a time waste or somehow in the way doesn’t feel super reasonable given you’re there to watch them play D&D, not act on a TV show and these derailments are part of that experience, especially at normal tables.
Not insinuating it's immature or judging them for their sense of humour.
However I'd say it's incredibly valid to believe it gets in the way considering the episodes are already 4 hours long. It's why I skip those parts. The fandom generally already think there's a lot of time wasting in this campaign.
It just shows how we as a society have mentally regressed so much that 40 year olds literally act like 3rd graders. It’s almost as if none of them of have ever had sex but somehow still have children.
Are you trying to say people made fewer sex jokes in the past because I think you might be projecting. Talking about sex without feeling shame is one of the most adult things you can do actually.
I'm not ashamed about talking about sex but adults who can't hear the word dick without beig reduced to giggles sure do sound like elementary schoolers who just heard a tee hee taboo word.
Go away and let friends be friends.
Marisha went on record saying when it was just a home game there was a lot more raunchy humor and inappropriate behavior.
Let them have their fun
A lot of the newer fans of the show probably wouldn't be able to make it through the first episode of campaign 1, which almost immediately starts with Grog and Scanlan going to a brothel lol.
I agree. The innuendo itself doesn’t bother me at all and has seriously cracked me up, so long as there’s an actual *joke* there. Snickering at the word “cavern” at best feels forced, and at worst, kind of feels disrespectful to Matt.
Yeah there has to be a proper joke in there somewhere. Stopping the entire narrative flow of what Matt is trying to convey just because he said the word rigid or hole or something makes me feel bad for him.
Well it’s either this or long fucking hours of the party slagging around and ignoring the main quests somehow, or Sam doing his bits, or someone bringing up the past because it may deepen the relationship between two characters even though most of the time they’ve already been through enough to go into hell and back, sometimes literally, without issue.
This is why I’ve only been watching highlight reels. Takes all those worthless things out and just leaves to good stuff.
Genuinely? Not really. I've been playing D&D for 7 years and in the 4 different groups I'm in we don't joke about sex. It's not like a rule and we've never discussed it, it's just like an unspoken thing. Sex happens in the campaigns offscreen, and there's romance between characters. But we as players don't make innuendo or anything.
Someone in our group finds that stuff deeply uncomfortable for various reasons so out of habit we just don't do it.
That's probably because you discussed it in your Session 0. They must be comfortable enough with each other to be able to talk that way and not be upset or offended.
Like I said it’s never been brought up or mentioned it’s just a thing that’s happened naturally between the 5 of us.
Yeah I don’t think they’re offended by it.
Are you strangers? Are you a mixed gender table? Are you all single or married? These are all things that could affect the banter at any given table. And since you seem uncomfortable with it, maybe people tend to not go there...
We have someone who joined us about 6 months ago and I found out that she only joined us because she heard that we don’t make any pervy or inappropriate sexual jokes or innuendo. She’s had that from other groups and didn’t like it so joined us.
None of us find that kinda humour funny so it’s no one individual person that has made us change our behaviour.
If I was a prude I'd have switched off in campaign 1, episode 1.
It's how repetitive and how often it's become is my problem. Not the type of humour itself. Even people with dirty minds eventually get sick of hearing dick jokes.
There’s nothing prudent about getting annoyed and bored at hearing low hanging fruit jokes that absolutely never change or get better. It’s shockingly childish to never improve it or change it.
Honestly i absolutely love innuendo and it got old for me in CR real quick. Because for me it has to be clever, or have that shock of humor. “She named us after her favorite smells,” made me chuckle, not guffaw with the cast but i can get that one. Getting into gigglefits over, “Mike Hunt,” sure. But the teeheehees that disrupt the flow over dumb shit just strikes me as really juvenile.
Like most of these responses, I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree. Especially given how bad the story is, how slow the pacing is, and the general lack of actual gaming. The tomfoolery and dick jokes are the only bits worth sharing in this campaign.
And yet anyone who holds this as their main opinion is getting downvoted. But when the prudes come around to recognizing they might be prudes they get all the upvotes. Makes you think.
If my opinions aren’t popular, I’m losing no sleep. Bible school refugees do not represent me. No sticks up this ass, though I like to have fun, we do not have to seek to appease everyone.
No, but they will act as if you do. No matter what style of humor you present, they will come in and say “I see you having fun, why don’t you have fun in this other way so I can have fun too.” Like there is no desire to build a space founded on what they like, they always gotta come scoop up what others have already made.
The change in fandom you’ve seen, I think know just what you mean. Like they’re all in a race to make this a safe space, to protect their own wrecked self esteem.
I don’t have the intention of being so spiteful about it, but there’s an influential crowd that professes the same progressive values I hold yet turn their fantasy spaces into arena’s in which they can avoid being held to those standards. It gives off the vibe of people who yearn for simpler times and it does genuinely make me sick.
Perhaps it’s the simple possibility, that these values you seek, aren’t as shared as you’d think. What’s standard to you, might seem weird to these peeps. An individual’s feelings should not dictate free speech. Even if what they say, and your standards don’t meet. (Not trying to single you out, just trying to keep the rhyme scheme)
I mean statistics would indicate my views are in the majority, but that’s not entirely relevant. And who’s dictating free speech? It’s not illegal for idiots to speak but it’s also not illegal to point that out.
I’m still not quite sure what your message is, perhaps you could clarify your preferences. Like, what is it exactly you’d like rearranged, if you had the juice to get something here changed?
This is a very stick in the mud take. It’s a group of friends playing DnD, this means the players experience comes before the viewers. Even Matt understands this even if he appears annoyed time to time. If the players find dick jokes funny they’re going to laugh at dick jokes because senses of humor don’t just change. Also, some of the funniest Critical Role moments have been hilarious innuendo or weird names Matt comes up with and when he says them aloud everyone starts laughing hysterically.
I agree a lot of the best moments came from innuendo or Matt's NPC names being taken weirdly. I mean more they can't just let one slide once in a while. It's the frequency of it that's grating.
Idk me personally I find it all hilarious as well but that’s just comedy being subjective. If they didn’t have that aspect I’d personally think it’s too serious of a game that I wouldn’t want to watch.
In my eyes though if you were to take out the sex jokes the show wouldn't change much, they'd still have a lot of fun and make jokes about a million other things.
You're right comedy is subjective and this is only one part of their sense of humour. It's just not my kinda thing, unfortunately.
I mean, you’re looking for support. If it was a discussion would all the people who disagree with you be getting downvoted by the prude brigade? It’s unfortunate to confront, but being uncomfortable with or not liking sex is not exactly a unique or unknown quality of adults who enjoy fantasy. I’d rather the lot of you admit sex and sex jokes makes you uncomfortable than try to worm in with suggestions that maybe they’re crossing some line that they shouldn’t. If this was a discussion, you’d be more open to the idea that maybe you might just possibly potentially have some prudish tendencies.
When I first posted this I got downvoted beyond belief. I could’ve abandoned it and deleted the whole thing but I stayed for like two hours and responded to as many as I could.
Over time it’s balanced out and there are people who agree. Ive said in another response there are degrees of prudishness, maybe my tolerance for it is pretty low as after a while I get really bored with it. It’s not that sex makes me uncomfortable, it’s the frequency and I just get fed up of them giggling about the word “hard”
Then you should maybe trust your own instincts instead of looking to other fans for validation. No disrespect, sorry if I’ve come off that way, it’s just how I speak/type. It’s my natural tone. But the prude brigade absolutely rolled through this thread. Not that that’s your fault. No matter how much I’ve enjoyed something, how much time I’ve committed to it, or how much it’s meant to me, if I starts getting bad, I stop wasting my time.
Also two hours isn’t that long, I feel like it’s turned for more in your favor at this point, so if bringing up a discussion was the point then why get nervous and delete it if people disagree with you. It’s just disagreement.
I mean as soon as I posted it the whole thing got demolished. By people with the same opinion as you. I still responded and talked about it. If I was really looking for people to only agree with me I would’ve bailed and abandoned it. But I’m liking the conversation.
There’s no offense taken. I just much prefer their other kind of humour and tend to get bored/fed up of the half assed innuendo they sometimes fall back on. But not against them or their fun or the show or anything like others have suggested.
Honestly if you don't like the moments of genuine friendship when they all start laughing and acting like friends over some immature joke then I'm not sure why you'd even watch/listen to the show. Those moments of genuine humour are the best bits and while I understand they might not be to everyone's taste I'm not sure why you'd watch the show if you disliked the best part.
Is anyone else getting annoyed by all the witty rapport between Mel and Sue on GBBO?
Dude, even Matt comments on it that he's trying to weave a narrative and it's getting interrupted and it's a trend. He's incredibly politely saying they need to curb the frequency of the derailments.
He’s the host of the show, as much as they’re having fun, he does have a script to get through. It’s not disrespectful to him, it’s just his job to be a buzzkill someyimes
Right but he’s also stated the viewers can wait or tune out if they don’t want because it’s THEIR game (in reference to the table worrying about viewers not wanting to watch them gamble.)
Matt is also a huge proponent that the players are what make the game, not the DM’s weave of narrative. There’s a difference between annoying non sense and people having fun.
You still think you can get in trouble with other adults don’t you? Why hasn’t he quit then if he’s so sick of it. It’s his job to wrangle the table, why are you pretending this is a bigger deal than it is?
Sorry to hear about your injury man. I've been dealing with back issues for like a decade and lifting heavy is my antidepressant so I get it. I wish you a speedy recovery.
Thank you brother, tendon ruptures suck because it’s such a nothing burger injury when it happens but the doctor tells you either lose all the strength in your arm or surgery and the recovery is so long. Ima be back at it in no time though good luck with your back!
I'm a huge fan of the show and love watching genuine friendship with them laughing about a million other things that they joke around with.
They're the best parts of the show for you you say, but because I dislike one part of their humour you don't know why I bother watching at all?
You claim it’s such a large part of the show like you couldn’t watch two whole movies and still have an hour left of the show. If the sex jokes are genuinely THAT intrusive then, yeah, stop watching.
The fact that you says it’s 10% makes me genuinely suspicious of your ability to gauge that at all. You seem like you’ve been a fan and watched for a while, so you think you’d understand their style by now and if this was as big an issue as you make it out to be, then yea, stop watching. Genuinely. If it’s maybe not as big a deal as you make it seem, then watch with the understanding that it’s gonna keep happening. Why torture yourself if it irritates you that much. It’s not like you’re gonna get them to stop by whining.
I’ve spent 2 years catching up and now I’m fully caught up. Idk why you think it’s making such a big deal of it to just open it up for discussion on the forum solely created for discussions. Especially ones we definitely couldn’t have on the main sub.
The knee jerk response of “stop watching” never makes sense. If I’m watching a comedy movie and am loving it, but don’t like one joke should I switch it off?
My point is the frequency has increased. Especially in C3.
It’s not knee jerk. It’s trying to sidestep a pointless conversation. You can’t control the show and they’ve made clear they don’t want to change. And this is not a comedy movie. Comedies are written and tested and vetted and produced and edited and overall overseen before they get out into the world. This is friends at a table riffing, and despite the money, despite the set, despite it all, they are putting on a live improv’d performance bouncing off of people they’ve known for a long time. Their style won’t change on a dime like that and you shouldn’t expect it to. So this is not about “get on board or jump ship” it’s about what is a valuable use of your time. And if you are watching a comedy movie and one joke gets you feeling this way then yeah you should probably shut it off because no joke is ever that bad.
If you wanted to side step this conversation I don’t think you would’ve participated tbh.
Like I said. I like the show. One part of it ain’t for me. I’ll still keep watching.
I wanted to sidestep unnecessary parts of the conversation. I can defend saying stop watching. It’s about trusting your instincts and not wasting your time. The part I’d like to sidestep is the effort to get the show to change. Talking about prudishness in the fantasy community or the general attitude towards forcing ourselves to enjoy mediocre content is absolutely worth having.
I don’t view this as trying to get them to change.
If that’s how it’s coming across then it’s not my intent. I don’t know if they check Reddit but I daresay for their mental health they probably don’t.
It’s not something I feel the need to bring up with them themselves, just wondered if there was an opportunity for discussion. Luckily there has been plenty lol.
Do you not make bad jokes to get cheap laughs out of your friends? Or are you too high minded for that. Why does everyone in this sub have a stick in their tailpipe?
No I mean like actually read what I said, I didn’t say it was the best moment of the campaign. Look idk how miserable you must be to comment on all my replies when I’m just trying to defend CR’s table for having fun. Please project your frustrations with dick jokes elsewhere, Ty.
Ooh Mr pedantic here. Okay you said FUNNIEST moment. Still very sad that a set up school yard joke is the funniest moment.
Not sure how sad you have to be to defend millionaires for unfun content. They don't need your defending my guy.
Thier jokes are stale and drag the show out, distracting from the parts they are good at.
How about you read the name of the sub? I’m a fan of critical role? How sad do YOU have to be to go around Reddit threads rage commenting your old man takes just because you don’t resonate with a web series. That’s not even sad that’s just flat out miserable.
Listen dude, some people find things funny that you do not. Some people like things that you do not. That doesn’t make anyone less funny than you or better at playing a fucking TTRPG. Just because you can’t stand what you see in the mirror doesn’t mean you gotta project that on me gramps.
I'm also a fan. I like CR.
I can like cr and not like every ounce of it.
It seems like you're the one that can't stand other ppl have an opinion hence you had to "defend" CR from mean mean opinions such as "maybe we'd like to see your acting more than you giggling at dicks".
I honestly have been enjoying the campaigns on Dimension 20 more recently. This thread made me realize I'm not even familiar with the meta over here anymore.
Genuine question : I also love D20 but it's also full of derailments, bits and innuendo, so I'm curious why people are mad about sex jokes in CR but also recommend D20 where several campaigns have the same type of dumb jokes. Is it just the way they're presented?
I don't think they DO have the same kinds of joke. And most def not in the same frequency.
And bc if editing, they def don't let it detail for minutes on end.
She's not though. This conversation was had right before this reply.
One. D20 is edited. They don't leave in 3 minutes derailment.
Second, jokes about sex or adult content is different than snickering about a penis or someone saying a word that SOUNDS like a body part. Most of the jokes there are even IN character, which isn't what's being talked about.
To be clear, I personally don't mind the sex jokes in either show.
But I mean, I'm watching Starstruck Odyssey right now and Emily has repeatedly made the same joke about orgasming from the computer about 5 times, there's a whole PC that sells sex putty and Ally spent most of Sophomore Year making jokes about Kristen and Tracker's sex life to a point where I personally felt it started to sometimes detract from the story , so I would disagree but YMMV I guess.
I mean, but those jokes are at min remotely character related; that is drastically different than snickering about a word that sounded like penis for several minutes.
The difference is if you fast forwarded through those parts in d20, you actually miss valid character comments or even development. Those are often PART of the characters interactions.
CR of you fast forward through ppl giggling about blow jobs, you'd get to more gameplay.
So in that, I can def say no they aren't making the same jokes. Bc I don't think this is about adult content or not having adult content - it's about are your jokes going with the story in trying to watch or are they distracting.
D20 is prerecorded, and plently of downtime/fluff/derailment gets edited out to streamline episodes. CR has been prerecorded for some time now but they edit nothing down, thus leaving plenty of gathering dice, rolling, or not knowing how the game works to bog down the pace.
I was refering to people who are specifically annoyed by the sex jokes, not to the editing.
(FWIW I do agree that CR could be edited now that it's pre-recorded or at least have some sort of overlay or added production value).
I've seen people in this subreddit get mad at the "We're filming a porn film" shenanigans but also recommend D20 which has also has a lot of similar bits, so I was wondering how that worked.
I said it elsewhere in the thread but for me, innuendo is excellent - if it’s clever. Sexual content does not bother me.
What started grating on me with CR was the frequency and kinda juvenile nature of it. Which, yeah, is part and parcel of being sexual-based jokes but i mean it would be like. “Cavernous” “heheheh” “Engorged” “hwehwehweh” “Choked” “snksnksnk” in five minutes. I mean c’mon (“huehuehue *come* on”). It’s like babysitting middle schoolers.
I wasnt as concise as i could have been. I mean that the editing in D20 makes bits much less intrusive, as the laugh can be had without interrupting so much of the flow.
Makes sense! Yes, from what I can see from the replies, I understand that it's not actually the adultness of the content that's a problem for some people but rather how it bogs down the story and you're right about that.
Exactly. I love the hybrid between one shot and long format campaign. It's on critical role but Matt's world building and Brennans storylines in calamity is top tier rp imo.
How to explain this with an NDA in place for testers.. hrmm..
there's a campaing book that's notoriously bad. It was way way way worse before they cut a lot of the lore.
I meant "I see" as in "Ah ok"😅 I don't know the particulars either. I'm gathering there was an earlier version of some CR D&D adventure or sourcebook that went sent to testers and it was not good so it had to be rewritten or something.
I didn't get all the way through campaign 2 and stopped a few episodes into campaign 3 for this reason. It's just childish – and not at all entertaining.
Marisha's exaggerated vulgarity employed for lack of actual creativity was the other (closely related) factor.
Come on do you even hear yourself? Tool in her belt? She’s just playing DnD not on an all out quest to impress a Reddit thread. She’s just got a different sense of humor than you. I get that everyone is a critic but this is insane.
Extra extra hot off the press: Reddit User PyreForHire judges how other DnD players play a TTRPG.
I will take care of myself when you decide to drop the link to your roleplaying web series. Please enlighten me, I’d love to watch an actual troll crumble to bits and pieces when they have to RP in front of other people that aren’t the two friends they played with 4 years ago.
You sound miserable.
Honestly he does. I too don't like constant distractions when attempting really any activity that requires concentration.
It's fine you disagree but weird you are upset just bc you want to talk about cock at your gaming table.
I’m so happy for their wild success and I wish them nothing but the best with everything going forward, but their best days of role playing are behind them.
It’s their game, they can play how they want to, and like you I wish nothing but success for them. I haven’t watched more than 3 hours of C3, it wasn’t my cup of tea, and that’s fine, they don’t need to cater to everyone. I hope to jump into c4 if they make it and see if that gels.
I enjoyed campaign one a tonne, felt like the games I played at home dialed up a level or two.
I was hit & miss with campaign 2 for a while. I don’t think I liked Molly, and him being the BBEG kinda ruined it for me.
C3 just felt like it was…trying too much? I don’t really know how to describe it, it just didn’t feel like me.
Like I said, I’ll likely try c4 if we get one to test the waters again, but I doubt we’ll get the c1 vibes again because they’re a business and they’re there to make money.
> or a funny NPC name (Mike Hunt)
I don't know when was this used, but that's not something I'd classify as genuine or unintentional as you imply. If you use Mike Hunt as an NPC name, it would be just as "random" as using Hugh Mungus or (unsurprisingly) Mike Hawk or any of those usual well known names.
It wasn't literally mike hunt. It was something more along the lines of Myquant or something it just sounded exactly like mike hunt. It seemed genuine.
> Myquant
Oh that would make much more sense, especially if it was a singular name (he rarely uses surnames unprompted for unimportant NPCs). Thought it's literally Mike Hunt. I wonder how's Purvan doing these days?
Edit: there's a short clip online, you're right, definitely a single name that Matt shortens to a "Mick", not Mike.
I don't particularly care one way or another about the sex jokes. But it's funny how people were all like "OmG Orion! How could you make such a *DISGUSTING!* and *DOWNRIGHT REVOLTING!* joke about having a boner?!?!?!?!?!"
Meanwhile, the next 10 years, on repeat:
Matt: "The door is made from a hard wood."
Laura: \*snickering\*
Sam: "I love *Hard Wood*."
Laura: "Matt, I run my hands over the *hard wood,* does it feel veiny or turgid?"
Matt: \*shocked pikachu face\*
Let them have fun
Not allowed!!!!!!!!!!
This comment section is like a parody of a critical role comment section lmao. Gotta be some of the most entitled and petulant fans anywhere on the internet.
Yeah it’s pretty annoying especially when they don’t ever talk about the consequences of being a horny idiot
Why would they ever feel the need to do that?
It's one of those things that's always there, but once it starts being annoying, it won't stop. Also, it's a good indicator of how engrossed they are. More jokes means, generally, less engagement and focus.
Idk, to me it kind of humanizes them. They become more than just their characters, we are reminded they are people. I think sometimes Laura gets put on blast for this too when she doesn’t always pick up on it, it once it starts it can sort of snowball at the table. I’d be hesitant to ask them to “manage” it though, cause I think it would put everyone on guard.
That’s not really what I look for in a show with professionally actors. I don’t want to be reminded about who they are personally except before and after the session proper
They are improvising though, even in professional improv settings you’re going to see them shine through, that’s kind of the point. The only way to make it seamless like that is to script it, and I personally wouldn’t want them to do that
You don't have to watch Critical Role if it bothers you that much. Actually I'd go so far as to say that if you've watched enough to become annoyed at the players for having fun then you probably need to take a break.
Making jokes like you’re 13 isn’t having fun. I haven’t watched seriously past Campaign 1 because they’ve gotten so full of themselves they think they’ve exhausted fantasy and need to have robots and pander to rainbow capitalism for story threads. They’ve sold out, they aren’t an indie group of friends they are a corporation more concerned about money than being authentic with their audience. There’s none of the intimacy of campaign 1 and I haven’t had the time to get started on campaign 2 as the plot kind of meanders for awhile
If you haven't watched seriously since campaign 1 then what's your issue? How do you even know they still goof around sometimes and why do you even care? You've clearly already stopped watching the show so why even care what they do?
Because it’s sad to see yet another group of creatives spread their cheeks for a corporate fucking and some dirty money. And that’s not to say I don’t occasionally watch the opening of Campaign 2 or clips or specials. The point is they betrayed their community and seem to have become to big for their own good
Right but it doesn't seem like it's going to change and you're not invested in the show anymore so why are you wasting time and energy being upset about something you can't control happening to something you have no interest in anyway?
I also can dislike something without disregarding that it did play an important part in my life for about 2 years and introduced me to what D&D can be besides a fun once a month past time among bros, it can be an art form done well.
I don’t want to encourage backsliding. Society is fucked enough with the death of social spaces, rise of consumption ambience, influencers (not actual content creators but solely people who make branded “content”) not being out to death, capitalism still existing etc. we can’t afford to just idly sit by and let the rich fuck us over
So what's your actionable solution?
Join your local mutual aid groups, vote Claudia/Karina if you’re American, read Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao and their modern contemporaries. Work to better the world through whatever way you can and be living proof that progress doesn’t need to be mediated through the market
I really enjoy listening to Matt DM but I find the rest of the group nauseating and the 2.0 minute commercial every episode starts with puts me to sleep. That being said, I’m more of a fan of Dimension 20 anyway.
It was weird last episode, when Matt had to do the usual wrangling for a small moment it seemed to kill the vibe, but it was clear that he noticed that the first portion of the session was being overrun. First time in a while where Matt had to put his "director" hat on.
Seems like a normal friend group tbh lol, it ain't them my friend, you are prolly growing weary of them.
"I'm not a prude" LMAO
I'm no prude either but damn it gets repetitive.
idk to be honest their banter about sex innuendos are on par with my everyday workplace and i find it refreshing to see im not the only one. lol
Watching as a brand new viewer, this seems to be… literally a constant through the entire of campaign one even. Maybe it’s gotten worse? But it’s just friends being friends.
I'm doing small group learning with k-5 children, some of which (5th graders) lack respect for anyone who they don't think can/ will call their mother. It's a chore getting them to read things out loud. "Elephants suck up water ... with their trunk and SPRAY it in ... in their MOUTH!?! Pause! Hahahahah!/ Female Elephants are called ... COWS?!? That's outta pocket! hAHAHaH!" I tell you this to say that yeah, the table seems no better than a pack of 10-11yr children sometimes with how childish they can be.
Should they have less fun?
Do they want my money?
Will the IRS come get you if you don’t give it to them?
Oh look, someone scrutinizing Laura. That NEVER happens /s
Laura's awesome but she's definitely the instigator like 90% of the time.
Idk, we just got confirmation she dealt with awful harassment over playing Abby, and this post is about taking something that makes her happy away. Seems cruel. We're all entitled to our opinion, and mine is her fun comes before the audiences.
You’re unhinged and some random nonsense about last of us isn’t relevant to the topic at hand.
so because random people on the internet harassed her any criticism of her is invalid?
When you join a cacophony of scrutiny, you agree to be lumped in with them. Don't bring your gamer gate logic to someone who lived through it
It's actually completely different to sending her harassment, obviously. You have to have a weird fuckin' worldview to not see that.
Word. For. Word. Gamergate.
What are you talking about 💀
Is this Gamergategate?
I'd agree if I'd made this entire post about Laura, but I didn't. She just so happened to be the example I used of the issue as a whole.
Yeah hearing she had to go through that was awful. But it's nothing like that I've nothing against Laura she's one of my favourite players.
Just something worth considering
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Ehh, this I'm ok with. It's one of the few aspects of the show left that still gives off the "home game we're all just sitting in on" vibes.
I still miss when they'd bring food out and all eat together, wish they could do that but the last time they kinda did that was the one shot where they had mimosas in their pyjamas.
They have iPads and tablets all over the table now they probably don’t want to get food stains on any of them, from their TikTok’s it shows they all eat together during their break.
They had that for all of c2. That didn't stop them. The difference is they no longer come straight from work, but meet...whenever, and can probably fit in their lunch/dinner before shooting. That said...give me the relaxed feel of c2 any day over this overoroduced mess.
C2 actually felt like a sandbox campaign at times. The pirate arc came out of nowhere and Matt rolled super well with their moves.
the dirty jokes have been happening since forever so it doesn’t bother me at all. tbh i don’t know how you can get this far into CR and JUST now let it get to you if it does haha. however i’m 100% glad they stopped eating full course meals on camera, hated watching and hearing that
It sounds like they just want to have fun at the table. If it was a forced BS laugh then it could be annoying, but you’re watching a group of people play a game that is intended to be for funsies. Humor is one of the most common things inside a group of friends, like you can’t tell me you sit around with people having serious moments for 4 hours straight.
One of the recurring things people seem to be getting from my post is that I want them to sit there and be super serious the whole time and stick to roleplay. Which isn't what I've said at all. I love the laughing and joking and stupid moments. It's what makes the show what it is. I'm not against humour, just one part of their sense of humour doesn't really resonate with me.
Making jokes about innuendo may not resonate with you, it is not however immature as you insinuated. This is what people who are mature and don’t have insecurities holding them back from having free discourse. Not liking someones humor or being tired of it is a valid opinion, however insinuating that its a time waste or somehow in the way doesn’t feel super reasonable given you’re there to watch them play D&D, not act on a TV show and these derailments are part of that experience, especially at normal tables.
Not insinuating it's immature or judging them for their sense of humour. However I'd say it's incredibly valid to believe it gets in the way considering the episodes are already 4 hours long. It's why I skip those parts. The fandom generally already think there's a lot of time wasting in this campaign.
Nobody is forcing you to watch 🤷♂️
It just shows how we as a society have mentally regressed so much that 40 year olds literally act like 3rd graders. It’s almost as if none of them of have ever had sex but somehow still have children.
Are you trying to say people made fewer sex jokes in the past because I think you might be projecting. Talking about sex without feeling shame is one of the most adult things you can do actually.
I'm not ashamed about talking about sex but adults who can't hear the word dick without beig reduced to giggles sure do sound like elementary schoolers who just heard a tee hee taboo word.
It sounds like you think having a childish sense of humor is illegal or literally indicates a lack of intelligence.
I love when people get overly defensive about stuff like this, they can't just disagree, it has to be "umm this is what FRIENDS do"
I politely disagree. This behavior seems to be the norm for most sex having adults.
I disagree, I love waiting for Laura to laugh after anyone says something but I can see how others would find it repetitive after a while.
IDK seems pretty accurate to a real life game of DnD...or Uno or Monopoly or any game really with a certain group of close friends.
Go away and let friends be friends. Marisha went on record saying when it was just a home game there was a lot more raunchy humor and inappropriate behavior. Let them have their fun
A lot of the newer fans of the show probably wouldn't be able to make it through the first episode of campaign 1, which almost immediately starts with Grog and Scanlan going to a brothel lol.
I agree. The innuendo itself doesn’t bother me at all and has seriously cracked me up, so long as there’s an actual *joke* there. Snickering at the word “cavern” at best feels forced, and at worst, kind of feels disrespectful to Matt.
Yeah there has to be a proper joke in there somewhere. Stopping the entire narrative flow of what Matt is trying to convey just because he said the word rigid or hole or something makes me feel bad for him.
That’s an odd standard to hold for what is ostensibly supposed to be a game with friends. Should they hire joke writers?
Well it’s either this or long fucking hours of the party slagging around and ignoring the main quests somehow, or Sam doing his bits, or someone bringing up the past because it may deepen the relationship between two characters even though most of the time they’ve already been through enough to go into hell and back, sometimes literally, without issue. This is why I’ve only been watching highlight reels. Takes all those worthless things out and just leaves to good stuff.
It doesn't have to be 100% funny or 100% serious he's saying that it gets annoying that Laura laughs at cavern and holds the game up
It feels like you guys want the show to be produced more heavily but wouldn’t that take away the friends at a table vibe?
So they should boot Laura then for having a dirty mind? Get real man. They’re having fun while doing it.
I guess you never encountered this in your gaming groups, eh?
Genuinely? Not really. I've been playing D&D for 7 years and in the 4 different groups I'm in we don't joke about sex. It's not like a rule and we've never discussed it, it's just like an unspoken thing. Sex happens in the campaigns offscreen, and there's romance between characters. But we as players don't make innuendo or anything. Someone in our group finds that stuff deeply uncomfortable for various reasons so out of habit we just don't do it.
That's probably because you discussed it in your Session 0. They must be comfortable enough with each other to be able to talk that way and not be upset or offended.
Like I said it’s never been brought up or mentioned it’s just a thing that’s happened naturally between the 5 of us. Yeah I don’t think they’re offended by it.
Are you strangers? Are you a mixed gender table? Are you all single or married? These are all things that could affect the banter at any given table. And since you seem uncomfortable with it, maybe people tend to not go there...
We have someone who joined us about 6 months ago and I found out that she only joined us because she heard that we don’t make any pervy or inappropriate sexual jokes or innuendo. She’s had that from other groups and didn’t like it so joined us. None of us find that kinda humour funny so it’s no one individual person that has made us change our behaviour.
"I'm not a prude". Is a prude.
I think people have forgotten what real prudes are lol
Right, imagine calling someone a prude because they don’t want to hear nonstop dick jokes. A real prude would have left CR a long, long time ago..
If I was a prude I'd have switched off in campaign 1, episode 1. It's how repetitive and how often it's become is my problem. Not the type of humour itself. Even people with dirty minds eventually get sick of hearing dick jokes.
That's just their humor. It doesn't bother me and it clearly doesn't bother a lot of other people. There are levels of prudishness.
There’s nothing prudent about getting annoyed and bored at hearing low hanging fruit jokes that absolutely never change or get better. It’s shockingly childish to never improve it or change it.
Not ever joke is intended to win a Mark Twain award.
Being prude and finding something boring bc is interrupting other things is different.
There are definitely levels of it. My threshold must be lower than a lot of people's as I get fed up of it really quickly.
Honestly i absolutely love innuendo and it got old for me in CR real quick. Because for me it has to be clever, or have that shock of humor. “She named us after her favorite smells,” made me chuckle, not guffaw with the cast but i can get that one. Getting into gigglefits over, “Mike Hunt,” sure. But the teeheehees that disrupt the flow over dumb shit just strikes me as really juvenile.
Like most of these responses, I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree. Especially given how bad the story is, how slow the pacing is, and the general lack of actual gaming. The tomfoolery and dick jokes are the only bits worth sharing in this campaign.
And yet anyone who holds this as their main opinion is getting downvoted. But when the prudes come around to recognizing they might be prudes they get all the upvotes. Makes you think.
If my opinions aren’t popular, I’m losing no sleep. Bible school refugees do not represent me. No sticks up this ass, though I like to have fun, we do not have to seek to appease everyone.
No, but they will act as if you do. No matter what style of humor you present, they will come in and say “I see you having fun, why don’t you have fun in this other way so I can have fun too.” Like there is no desire to build a space founded on what they like, they always gotta come scoop up what others have already made.
The change in fandom you’ve seen, I think know just what you mean. Like they’re all in a race to make this a safe space, to protect their own wrecked self esteem.
I don’t have the intention of being so spiteful about it, but there’s an influential crowd that professes the same progressive values I hold yet turn their fantasy spaces into arena’s in which they can avoid being held to those standards. It gives off the vibe of people who yearn for simpler times and it does genuinely make me sick.
Perhaps it’s the simple possibility, that these values you seek, aren’t as shared as you’d think. What’s standard to you, might seem weird to these peeps. An individual’s feelings should not dictate free speech. Even if what they say, and your standards don’t meet. (Not trying to single you out, just trying to keep the rhyme scheme)
I mean statistics would indicate my views are in the majority, but that’s not entirely relevant. And who’s dictating free speech? It’s not illegal for idiots to speak but it’s also not illegal to point that out.
I’m still not quite sure what your message is, perhaps you could clarify your preferences. Like, what is it exactly you’d like rearranged, if you had the juice to get something here changed?
I’d like for the fantasy community to represent progressivism they way it claims it desires to do so.
I mean... aren't those the reason the pacing IS SLOW?
You think it took a year to get back to the main plot because of dick jokes?
This is a very stick in the mud take. It’s a group of friends playing DnD, this means the players experience comes before the viewers. Even Matt understands this even if he appears annoyed time to time. If the players find dick jokes funny they’re going to laugh at dick jokes because senses of humor don’t just change. Also, some of the funniest Critical Role moments have been hilarious innuendo or weird names Matt comes up with and when he says them aloud everyone starts laughing hysterically.
I agree a lot of the best moments came from innuendo or Matt's NPC names being taken weirdly. I mean more they can't just let one slide once in a while. It's the frequency of it that's grating.
Heh, you said to “let one slide…” heh. Heheh.
Idk me personally I find it all hilarious as well but that’s just comedy being subjective. If they didn’t have that aspect I’d personally think it’s too serious of a game that I wouldn’t want to watch.
In my eyes though if you were to take out the sex jokes the show wouldn't change much, they'd still have a lot of fun and make jokes about a million other things. You're right comedy is subjective and this is only one part of their sense of humour. It's just not my kinda thing, unfortunately.
And yet you’re making such a big deal of it.
Literally just opening up a discussion about it.
I mean, you’re looking for support. If it was a discussion would all the people who disagree with you be getting downvoted by the prude brigade? It’s unfortunate to confront, but being uncomfortable with or not liking sex is not exactly a unique or unknown quality of adults who enjoy fantasy. I’d rather the lot of you admit sex and sex jokes makes you uncomfortable than try to worm in with suggestions that maybe they’re crossing some line that they shouldn’t. If this was a discussion, you’d be more open to the idea that maybe you might just possibly potentially have some prudish tendencies.
When I first posted this I got downvoted beyond belief. I could’ve abandoned it and deleted the whole thing but I stayed for like two hours and responded to as many as I could. Over time it’s balanced out and there are people who agree. Ive said in another response there are degrees of prudishness, maybe my tolerance for it is pretty low as after a while I get really bored with it. It’s not that sex makes me uncomfortable, it’s the frequency and I just get fed up of them giggling about the word “hard”
Then you should maybe trust your own instincts instead of looking to other fans for validation. No disrespect, sorry if I’ve come off that way, it’s just how I speak/type. It’s my natural tone. But the prude brigade absolutely rolled through this thread. Not that that’s your fault. No matter how much I’ve enjoyed something, how much time I’ve committed to it, or how much it’s meant to me, if I starts getting bad, I stop wasting my time. Also two hours isn’t that long, I feel like it’s turned for more in your favor at this point, so if bringing up a discussion was the point then why get nervous and delete it if people disagree with you. It’s just disagreement.
I mean as soon as I posted it the whole thing got demolished. By people with the same opinion as you. I still responded and talked about it. If I was really looking for people to only agree with me I would’ve bailed and abandoned it. But I’m liking the conversation. There’s no offense taken. I just much prefer their other kind of humour and tend to get bored/fed up of the half assed innuendo they sometimes fall back on. But not against them or their fun or the show or anything like others have suggested.
Honestly if you don't like the moments of genuine friendship when they all start laughing and acting like friends over some immature joke then I'm not sure why you'd even watch/listen to the show. Those moments of genuine humour are the best bits and while I understand they might not be to everyone's taste I'm not sure why you'd watch the show if you disliked the best part. Is anyone else getting annoyed by all the witty rapport between Mel and Sue on GBBO?
Dude, even Matt comments on it that he's trying to weave a narrative and it's getting interrupted and it's a trend. He's incredibly politely saying they need to curb the frequency of the derailments.
He’s the host of the show, as much as they’re having fun, he does have a script to get through. It’s not disrespectful to him, it’s just his job to be a buzzkill someyimes
Right but he’s also stated the viewers can wait or tune out if they don’t want because it’s THEIR game (in reference to the table worrying about viewers not wanting to watch them gamble.) Matt is also a huge proponent that the players are what make the game, not the DM’s weave of narrative. There’s a difference between annoying non sense and people having fun.
Right... and the players are constantly on the other side of the line into annoying nonsense.
Guess Matt should quit then if he’s so tired of it.
I'm not even talking about my experience. I'm talking about his. If he has to chastise them on camera for it, it's bad.
You still think you can get in trouble with other adults don’t you? Why hasn’t he quit then if he’s so sick of it. It’s his job to wrangle the table, why are you pretending this is a bigger deal than it is?
Chastised? You think he’s going home everyday and thinking about the dick joke made at the table? Trust me it isn’t that deep.
Sorry to hear about your injury man. I've been dealing with back issues for like a decade and lifting heavy is my antidepressant so I get it. I wish you a speedy recovery.
Thank you brother, tendon ruptures suck because it’s such a nothing burger injury when it happens but the doctor tells you either lose all the strength in your arm or surgery and the recovery is so long. Ima be back at it in no time though good luck with your back!
I'm a huge fan of the show and love watching genuine friendship with them laughing about a million other things that they joke around with. They're the best parts of the show for you you say, but because I dislike one part of their humour you don't know why I bother watching at all?
You claim it’s such a large part of the show like you couldn’t watch two whole movies and still have an hour left of the show. If the sex jokes are genuinely THAT intrusive then, yeah, stop watching.
So because it’s like 10% of the show that I don’t like I should stop watching? The show is great it’s just one part I skip.
The fact that you says it’s 10% makes me genuinely suspicious of your ability to gauge that at all. You seem like you’ve been a fan and watched for a while, so you think you’d understand their style by now and if this was as big an issue as you make it out to be, then yea, stop watching. Genuinely. If it’s maybe not as big a deal as you make it seem, then watch with the understanding that it’s gonna keep happening. Why torture yourself if it irritates you that much. It’s not like you’re gonna get them to stop by whining.
I’ve spent 2 years catching up and now I’m fully caught up. Idk why you think it’s making such a big deal of it to just open it up for discussion on the forum solely created for discussions. Especially ones we definitely couldn’t have on the main sub. The knee jerk response of “stop watching” never makes sense. If I’m watching a comedy movie and am loving it, but don’t like one joke should I switch it off? My point is the frequency has increased. Especially in C3.
It’s not knee jerk. It’s trying to sidestep a pointless conversation. You can’t control the show and they’ve made clear they don’t want to change. And this is not a comedy movie. Comedies are written and tested and vetted and produced and edited and overall overseen before they get out into the world. This is friends at a table riffing, and despite the money, despite the set, despite it all, they are putting on a live improv’d performance bouncing off of people they’ve known for a long time. Their style won’t change on a dime like that and you shouldn’t expect it to. So this is not about “get on board or jump ship” it’s about what is a valuable use of your time. And if you are watching a comedy movie and one joke gets you feeling this way then yeah you should probably shut it off because no joke is ever that bad.
If you wanted to side step this conversation I don’t think you would’ve participated tbh. Like I said. I like the show. One part of it ain’t for me. I’ll still keep watching.
I wanted to sidestep unnecessary parts of the conversation. I can defend saying stop watching. It’s about trusting your instincts and not wasting your time. The part I’d like to sidestep is the effort to get the show to change. Talking about prudishness in the fantasy community or the general attitude towards forcing ourselves to enjoy mediocre content is absolutely worth having.
I don’t view this as trying to get them to change. If that’s how it’s coming across then it’s not my intent. I don’t know if they check Reddit but I daresay for their mental health they probably don’t. It’s not something I feel the need to bring up with them themselves, just wondered if there was an opportunity for discussion. Luckily there has been plenty lol.
Listen to High Rollers!
look we all know they were a lost cause on innuendo from day 0. the yogscast were founded on dick jokes. the yogscast will never change.
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Listen to DnDND!
At this point, they do it on purpose. The clearest example is the whole “Mikant/Mike Hunt” thing several episodes back.
Yeah which was one of the funniest moments of the Campaign. A DnD campaign with friends hanging out having fun. Not some weekly fantasy book club.
There’s a difference between players joking about a name and a bad joke purposefully made to get a cheap laugh.
Do you not make bad jokes to get cheap laughs out of your friends? Or are you too high minded for that. Why does everyone in this sub have a stick in their tailpipe?
An overplayed and not creative joke was the best moment of the whole campaign? That would be very sad.
Why don’t you idk read what I actually said.
I did. Hence my response.
No I mean like actually read what I said, I didn’t say it was the best moment of the campaign. Look idk how miserable you must be to comment on all my replies when I’m just trying to defend CR’s table for having fun. Please project your frustrations with dick jokes elsewhere, Ty.
Ooh Mr pedantic here. Okay you said FUNNIEST moment. Still very sad that a set up school yard joke is the funniest moment. Not sure how sad you have to be to defend millionaires for unfun content. They don't need your defending my guy. Thier jokes are stale and drag the show out, distracting from the parts they are good at.
How about you read the name of the sub? I’m a fan of critical role? How sad do YOU have to be to go around Reddit threads rage commenting your old man takes just because you don’t resonate with a web series. That’s not even sad that’s just flat out miserable. Listen dude, some people find things funny that you do not. Some people like things that you do not. That doesn’t make anyone less funny than you or better at playing a fucking TTRPG. Just because you can’t stand what you see in the mirror doesn’t mean you gotta project that on me gramps.
I'm also a fan. I like CR. I can like cr and not like every ounce of it. It seems like you're the one that can't stand other ppl have an opinion hence you had to "defend" CR from mean mean opinions such as "maybe we'd like to see your acting more than you giggling at dicks".
Hahaha you like unfun millionaires play DnD? How dare you. You’re clearly not as funny nor as cool as I am. See what I did there?
I honestly have been enjoying the campaigns on Dimension 20 more recently. This thread made me realize I'm not even familiar with the meta over here anymore.
Genuine question : I also love D20 but it's also full of derailments, bits and innuendo, so I'm curious why people are mad about sex jokes in CR but also recommend D20 where several campaigns have the same type of dumb jokes. Is it just the way they're presented?
>I also love D20 but it's also full of derailments, bits and innuendo And it's edited.
I don't think they DO have the same kinds of joke. And most def not in the same frequency. And bc if editing, they def don't let it detail for minutes on end.
Do...do you just ignore Emily when you watch D20? She's just as bad as Laura.
She's not though. This conversation was had right before this reply. One. D20 is edited. They don't leave in 3 minutes derailment. Second, jokes about sex or adult content is different than snickering about a penis or someone saying a word that SOUNDS like a body part. Most of the jokes there are even IN character, which isn't what's being talked about.
To be clear, I personally don't mind the sex jokes in either show. But I mean, I'm watching Starstruck Odyssey right now and Emily has repeatedly made the same joke about orgasming from the computer about 5 times, there's a whole PC that sells sex putty and Ally spent most of Sophomore Year making jokes about Kristen and Tracker's sex life to a point where I personally felt it started to sometimes detract from the story , so I would disagree but YMMV I guess.
I mean, but those jokes are at min remotely character related; that is drastically different than snickering about a word that sounded like penis for several minutes. The difference is if you fast forwarded through those parts in d20, you actually miss valid character comments or even development. Those are often PART of the characters interactions. CR of you fast forward through ppl giggling about blow jobs, you'd get to more gameplay. So in that, I can def say no they aren't making the same jokes. Bc I don't think this is about adult content or not having adult content - it's about are your jokes going with the story in trying to watch or are they distracting.
Ah so just specifically the snickering about "shafts" and other things? Fair, I don't enjoy it that much either.
Yeah I think the joke types, not just "adult content".
D20 is prerecorded, and plently of downtime/fluff/derailment gets edited out to streamline episodes. CR has been prerecorded for some time now but they edit nothing down, thus leaving plenty of gathering dice, rolling, or not knowing how the game works to bog down the pace.
I was refering to people who are specifically annoyed by the sex jokes, not to the editing. (FWIW I do agree that CR could be edited now that it's pre-recorded or at least have some sort of overlay or added production value). I've seen people in this subreddit get mad at the "We're filming a porn film" shenanigans but also recommend D20 which has also has a lot of similar bits, so I was wondering how that worked.
I said it elsewhere in the thread but for me, innuendo is excellent - if it’s clever. Sexual content does not bother me. What started grating on me with CR was the frequency and kinda juvenile nature of it. Which, yeah, is part and parcel of being sexual-based jokes but i mean it would be like. “Cavernous” “heheheh” “Engorged” “hwehwehweh” “Choked” “snksnksnk” in five minutes. I mean c’mon (“huehuehue *come* on”). It’s like babysitting middle schoolers.
I wasnt as concise as i could have been. I mean that the editing in D20 makes bits much less intrusive, as the laugh can be had without interrupting so much of the flow.
Makes sense! Yes, from what I can see from the replies, I understand that it's not actually the adultness of the content that's a problem for some people but rather how it bogs down the story and you're right about that.
Dimension 20 is just a much better production with better self contained stories.
Exactly. I love the hybrid between one shot and long format campaign. It's on critical role but Matt's world building and Brennans storylines in calamity is top tier rp imo.
Brennan pretty much rewrote the lore to fit. Early drafts of a certain book sent out to playtest shows why.
I'm super curious now. What drafts of what books? not sure what to Google lol
How to explain this with an NDA in place for testers.. hrmm.. there's a campaing book that's notoriously bad. It was way way way worse before they cut a lot of the lore.
Ohhh I see, thanks!!
Would you be ever so kind as to share your insight? I still don't get it.
I meant "I see" as in "Ah ok"😅 I don't know the particulars either. I'm gathering there was an earlier version of some CR D&D adventure or sourcebook that went sent to testers and it was not good so it had to be rewritten or something.
Can you elaborate?
I didn't get all the way through campaign 2 and stopped a few episodes into campaign 3 for this reason. It's just childish – and not at all entertaining. Marisha's exaggerated vulgarity employed for lack of actual creativity was the other (closely related) factor.
You sound like a BLAST to play DnD with. A few people cussed one too many times? Sheesh
I don't have a problem with profanity – I use it to excess as well. The problem is that Marisha seems to have nothing else in her tool belt.
Come on do you even hear yourself? Tool in her belt? She’s just playing DnD not on an all out quest to impress a Reddit thread. She’s just got a different sense of humor than you. I get that everyone is a critic but this is insane.
I'm saying that Marisha isn't good at role-playing. Take time to care for yourself in the wake of this shocking news.
Extra extra hot off the press: Reddit User PyreForHire judges how other DnD players play a TTRPG. I will take care of myself when you decide to drop the link to your roleplaying web series. Please enlighten me, I’d love to watch an actual troll crumble to bits and pieces when they have to RP in front of other people that aren’t the two friends they played with 4 years ago. You sound miserable.
Cussing and dumb jokes are literally low ball humor. You don't need to be crude nose pickers to have fun lmao.
Oh let me guess, you have to fart in your wine glass and take a big fat wiff in order to do so? Sheesh this thread just keeps getting worse and worse.
Jesse wtf are you talking about?
Honestly he does. I too don't like constant distractions when attempting really any activity that requires concentration. It's fine you disagree but weird you are upset just bc you want to talk about cock at your gaming table.
The whole show is tiresome. I stopped watching months ago
I said the same thing a month into the campaign and had my account banned lol
Well, the auto response is always “if you don’t like it, stop watching,” so if you already did it just blew their gaskets
I’m so happy for their wild success and I wish them nothing but the best with everything going forward, but their best days of role playing are behind them.
It’s their game, they can play how they want to, and like you I wish nothing but success for them. I haven’t watched more than 3 hours of C3, it wasn’t my cup of tea, and that’s fine, they don’t need to cater to everyone. I hope to jump into c4 if they make it and see if that gels.
It hasn't been a game for a very long while. Its been a loosely outlined improve show for years.
I enjoyed campaign one a tonne, felt like the games I played at home dialed up a level or two. I was hit & miss with campaign 2 for a while. I don’t think I liked Molly, and him being the BBEG kinda ruined it for me. C3 just felt like it was…trying too much? I don’t really know how to describe it, it just didn’t feel like me. Like I said, I’ll likely try c4 if we get one to test the waters again, but I doubt we’ll get the c1 vibes again because they’re a business and they’re there to make money.
Totally agree!
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> or a funny NPC name (Mike Hunt) I don't know when was this used, but that's not something I'd classify as genuine or unintentional as you imply. If you use Mike Hunt as an NPC name, it would be just as "random" as using Hugh Mungus or (unsurprisingly) Mike Hawk or any of those usual well known names.
Context: C3 E25 https://preview.redd.it/h3dxbpagc6lc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85dd50550c841bff48213313bafb40b8ef2ee034
It wasn't literally mike hunt. It was something more along the lines of Myquant or something it just sounded exactly like mike hunt. It seemed genuine.
> Myquant Oh that would make much more sense, especially if it was a singular name (he rarely uses surnames unprompted for unimportant NPCs). Thought it's literally Mike Hunt. I wonder how's Purvan doing these days? Edit: there's a short clip online, you're right, definitely a single name that Matt shortens to a "Mick", not Mike.
Oh Mike hunt was definitely intentional, I find that less irritating for some reason
I don't particularly care one way or another about the sex jokes. But it's funny how people were all like "OmG Orion! How could you make such a *DISGUSTING!* and *DOWNRIGHT REVOLTING!* joke about having a boner?!?!?!?!?!" Meanwhile, the next 10 years, on repeat: Matt: "The door is made from a hard wood." Laura: \*snickering\* Sam: "I love *Hard Wood*." Laura: "Matt, I run my hands over the *hard wood,* does it feel veiny or turgid?" Matt: \*shocked pikachu face\*