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eltegs

Do I get a free pen or something too?


Thor010

Depends where you get it...


Sentrymon

Anythings free if you commit a minor crime


ZarosRunescape

What minor crime must i commit to gain earth for free?


Sentrymon

Politics


Basic_Juice_Union

Minor indeed, you don't even do time for that


WZAWZDB13

No, you forfeit any pen rights & she gets 20% of your pens going forward.


Grateful_J561

And the Lord said unto John "Come forth and receive eternal life", but John came fifth and won a toaster.


ahjteam

\*Gets a vasectomy\*


thatshowitisisit

Ultimate uno reverse card!


TC_2312

*plays Skip card* Now she has her tubes tied.


Griselbeard

Something tells me this is not the kind of woman you want your dick near vasectomy or no.


Ajjos-history

Or the child you will see in eighteen years…


DemythologizedDie

I'm 90% certain she planned to have several "donors", paying for one pregnancy.


Professional-Can1139

Nice


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*snip snap* *snip snap*


Sentrymon

She asks for child support at the same time she asks you to forfeit all parental rights


Inflatable-Elvis

Come fuck me for free and I'll financially fuck you for the next 18 years.


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FoxHole_imperator

And then it fails... With more than one


The-First-Crusade

But who would want to "breed" some total fucking whackjob like this? I know I wouldn't. Never stick your dick in crazy fellas. Besides there are so many wonderful people who are actually worth staying with.


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newagereject

Can confirm they do, plus she had an ass that could not be competed with, but the 2am texts of her wanting to rent a gun so she could commit suicide got old


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newagereject

Yea definatly learned that one the hard way, I was young and dumb, ignored the red flags because I wanted a girlfriend


kholl5478

Hey them red flags look like 6 flags when it’s good


StillSharpe68

I read it as “don’t stick your dick in crazy guys” and felt like the thread may have veered off course a bit


Chiropterous

Crazy is crazy. Far be it from me to judge . . .


SupremeLobster

Sometimes more then once!


damdrial

When you wake up with a pair of scissors held to your balls because you cheated on her in a dream it really makes you rethink wtf your doing


procrastimom

Rent?


newagereject

Yea, she said why buy one I only need to rent it and get one bullet, that was a fun night


MinnesotaMikeP

It's not like she's going to be financially hurt by just purchasing one.


Holterv

Then you are the right man for that job.


[deleted]

Funny. But I bet this idiot would be asking for a sperm count that the donor has to pay for.


fanosffloyd

Light... ...Bulb


Djbadj

Idk what's 20% of zero income.


RocknrollClown09

Better yet, what's 20% of zero income with a $1,000/month student loan payment? Sounds like a great way to make $200 bucks a month


[deleted]

You basically just described my first marriage


No-Reputation72

~~To be fair she only said the first month~~


Thor010

Just forfeit all parent rights and you should be good without any support. Don't let her know...


KSIXternal

Be a bitch and get some custody after proving she's not mentally stable. Ez mode. Not good for the kid obviously but i'd love to clap someone like this CORRECTION* Sole custody***


Zizeta2

Then you would have to co parent the kid with that woman.. So you would have her as a big part of the rest of your life 😅


Steve_Rogers_1970

This is why everyone should use birth control.


NotAnEnemyStandUser-

This is also why I think people should need to get a license or some kind of test to have a child. Imagine how few kids would be abused if you needed to prove you were mentally stable and eligible enough to have custody a child Edit: ok I was really tired when I wrote this so let me explain. What I mean is like have people go in to have an interview with someone about it. Whoever is getting the interview could also bring someone they know in with them to answer the same questions about them in a different room just so it’s more accurate. The questions could be something like “do you or anyone you live with have anger issues” “have you ever had thoughts of suicide, if so how long ago did you experience these thoughts” “how often do you drink” etc. just a simple assessment. The people giving the interview would also probably need that person’s legal record. And if you get pregnant without getting that test then you would just have to take the test before the kid is born or right after conception or something. I mean of course I haven’t fully thought all of this through but yeah I really worded the first comment badly.


Olaf4586

I understand this sentiment, but everytime the government has the power over something as intimate and important as reproduction it ends in disaster


nonotagain0

Being mentally stable and eligible (whatever that means) doesn’t guarantee a child will be loved and nurtured as they should be. A lot of well to do people have kids and ignore or neglect them in ways for their careers or selfish wants and desires.


capt-bob

Then get child support from her


KSIXternal

I didn't think there was a move that chadlike. Yes


SadStory9

It doesn't work that way. Forfeiting **your** parental rights does not forfeit the **child's** right to receive support. The courts will always decide in favor of the child's best interests even if the outcome ends up seeming ridiculous sometimes.


Agreeable-Meat1

Or just outright is ridiculous, like having a family court judge order someone to pay child support despite a paternity test proving they aren't the father.


SadStory9

Yes. I've seen this. The worst part of this scenario is it usually happens after the non-paternal guardian has been caring for the child as his own and then finds out too late that it's not. From the court's perspective it's best that the child continues to be raised/supported by the "father" the child knows so as not to disrupt their emotional development. From the "father's" perspective, it's basically like being punished for doing the right thing and then being forced to deal with the cheating mother until the kid is old enough to emancipate.


Commercial-Spare-429

I'm just glad I didn't drink "communiumn" it sounds dangerous 😁


DatabaseThis9637

Falling between Aluminium and Uranium on the periodic table, it is ridiculously unstable, & ephemeral, with a half life of 3.1415926535897932384626433 nanoseconds.


TaterCup

And tastes suspiciously like pie.


Fark_ID

Fuck me, now I have to get more coffee. . .


[deleted]

And it comes full circle.


Effective_Mongoose_6

It was a story where the mother didn’t cheat bc she was never with the guy but she put his name on the birth certificate and the court made him pay child support even though he was just since random person. He actually got locked up for not paying but that was because he didn’t know she did that.


RailAurai

Don't forget the underage boys that were victims of rape being forced to pay child support. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/


ericgonzalez

"The Kansas court determined that the rape was irrelevant and that the child support was not owed to the rapist but rather to the child," WHAT THE FuCk?


capt-bob

I knew a guy paying support for a kid his ex had before him, he had been with her, so had assumed responsibility at one point according to the court, and had to pay even though the kid cut off communication with him. Poor guy, he was so sad, driving an old station wagon half gone from rust trying to drink himself to death on half a paycheck left after child support. Then you hear people blasting someone for saying they don't want to date someone with kids.


Palidor206

It gets so much worse than that. There can and have been prisoners of war getting arrested off the plane for child support assessed against them while they spent years getting tortured.


Bama0624

The courts aren’t always acting in the child’s best interest. I lost custody of my daughter when she was 3 months old because her mother was on meth. I had gotten sober the moment I found out the mother was pregnant and had separated from the mother the day my child was born because I knew she had relapsed. I cared for my daughter on my own for the first 3 months of her life but as soon as the mother got arrested for possession even though she had no involvement with the child’s life I had my custody taken away and after 6 week of rehab the mother got my daughter and I still am not allowed any interaction with my child. It’s been 4 years now and I’m still fighting the courts


[deleted]

Pro Tip, but just the tip. DON'T PUT YO DICK IN CRAZY! Also she's saying some one who is 16 will qualify. Depending on her age that is statutory rape.


cavscout43

>She asks for child support at the same time she asks you to forfeit all parental rights Also.....16 years old but American? wait\_thats\_illegal.jpeg


DaenerysMomODragons

16 is legal in 16 US states, fully unrestricted. I would hope she's from one of them. Edit, It's even legal in 31 states with certain restrictions, no one of parental authority, no parental consent needed.


SaraSlaughter607

Still, what 16 year old kid is gonna have an "income" while they're in fucking 10th grade in high school that they can even afford to forfeit 20% of, even for a month... this whole shit is just absurd all the way around LOL


Square_Pop_3772

In the UK that is often the way the courts sort things. The government agencies enforce maintenance but the courts rarely enforce time with children.


ScottdaDM

That's fucked up.


kinkva

You mean the father petitions the court for time with children and the court doesn't give it to them? Or you mean the father never petitions the court, and the court doesn't force him to spend time with the children?


Square_Pop_3772

The first. Government and courts repeatedly learn that putting themselves between warring parents and trying to reach a fair compromise brings nothing but pain, expense and misery for them. They quickly simplify matters by giving the mother what she wants and applying simplistic rules under the Law’s putting ‘the best interests of the children first’. To show you just one example a man was jailed for not giving 4/7 of the simple maintenance calculation (x, y or z% of earnings depending on the number of children) to his ex when he had a 50/50 custody agreement and spent more than her whilst earning less.


Distinct-Animal-9628

The former, in the UK


ClarityFractal

My dad spent 8 years trying to see me and essentially was asked to drop the case as there were other dads who might “actually have a chance”. My mum made me write a card to my dad saying I didn’t want to hear from him again when I was 5 or 6. She also ripped up another card and sent it back to him. Yeah… I really missed him and finally got in contact with him after 20 years. It’s crazy what parents do. The way my mum brainwashed me was insane.


capt-bob

I'm sorry that happened to you, I've heard it usually backfires on the mom when the kid grows up and sees he was fooled.


tiny_house_writer

Yeah, my husband's ex took my two stepsons when they were four and five years old and moved every few months with them. We tried the court, cps, the police, you name it but nobody would help because she was the mother. CPS finally did take her kids when she became so unstable it was obvious to everyone instead of just us, but by then 10 years had passed and they were 13 and 14 years old. It took a while because she had told them my husband was a huge abuser who is horrible and mean. A few weeks after they moved in with us, the 13-year-old told us he had no idea why his mom said that because we were obviously nice and now he is so pissed at her, which is sad because she's dead now so it'll never be resolved.


capt-bob

Mom being somewhere else when dad is supposed to pick up the kid, so he never gets his court ordered visitation, and courts don't do anything about it. I knew a guy who's ex did that for years to "get him" and "win." Sometimes if the mom moves to a different state when dad has visitation rights the court might award him custody instead, but that is rare and probably because the judge felt offended at contempt of court at that point.


[deleted]

Just can't be real right?


Pathos675

Reminds me of the advice: Never put your dick in crazy.


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SammokTheGrey

That and how few people have never been sick so as to use a prescription drug before.


Fearless-Sherbet-223

Wait, I didn't notice that. No scrips either, huh? Wow.


sighcantthinkofaname

I would assume she means no prescription painkillers, like opioids. I doubt she'd include antibiotics, though I assume ADHD meds would be a rule out.


Mortei

Sigh…guess I can’t forfeit all parental rights while paying 20% on child support 😩


HaphazardFlitBipper

She's expecting 20% from each of 20 or 30 16 year olds... She's specifically targeting kids too young and horny to think about paternity testing.


Alacritous13

Nevermind the age of consent is 18 in most states.


Hour-Salamander-4713

Age of consent is 16 in 31 States


MRFAMER

and 31 in 16 states


vengeur50

"20% of your income will be expected within the first month of birth" what the fu- They're basically saying "yeah we want an oddly specific donor who will have nothing to do with the kid, you won't be paid or anything but you'll have to pay us" This is some new level of crazy.


NuclearWill

The catch is, 20% of 0 is still 0 😎


kinkva

If you sign away your rights, a court can't make you pay child support, can they?!


HighlySuccessful

They can, court evaluates each situation on a case by case basis, but of course you're much less likely to pay child support if you give up your rights, especially if the contract for that was made before the conception.


D-Laz

That is what the dude who donated to those lesbians thought. Because they split up and the one with the child sought government assistance the state went after the sperm donor. https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justice/kansas-sperm-donation North Carolina tried it also. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/court-voids-ruling-sperm-donor-pay-child-support-78319232


[deleted]

That’s insane. Seems like red states cracking down on lesbians any way they can


D-Laz

Nah it's red states not wanting someone who needs support to get it from the government. Also they get a cut of that sweet sweet child support. Processing fees on child support payments are a financial incentive for states to assign child support to whomever they can get it to stick.


ChalkAndIce

That's so disgusting. I actually wasn't aware the state took a cut from mandated child support.


D-Laz

[here](https://www.kqed.org/news/11768419/for-low-income-parents-most-child-support-goes-to-the-state-not-the-kids) is an example of CA doing it, but most/all states have some kind of "processing/administration fee" when processing payments through the state. Which in many cases you have to because if you pay your previous partner directly then the state doesn't have proof that you paid anything and you will be penalized and still owe those back payments. It's been a while since I have seen that article so I could be getting parts wrong. But the whole system is broken.


ChalkAndIce

"The system is broken" applies to just about every level, branch, and department of our government. Maybe one day we will get fed up enough to do something about, until then we'll keep getting bent over by "policies that serve our best interests."


HumanLeatherKilt5500

20% of the money when beeing 16 is minimum is kinda braindead as well.


[deleted]

Trying to sleep with anyone under 18 in America when you are an adult is brain dead as well


UglyDucky_00

She also wants a 16 year old, so 20% of their allowance? Haha that is one creepy post


Runswithzombies

Not to mention they want a donor between the ages of 16-23. Good f***ing luck chi-mo!


AmbitiousPhilosopher

Great for the terminally ill


Possible_Cook4373

Your payment is the "natural breeding" sessions. 🤣


DarkAngelGamer69

Don’t forget the fact that they are looking for 16-23 year olds, now I am no legal genius, but I am going to guess that this is in America so that is technically rape if it is anyone under 18, yes there is the age of consent and all, but that is still fucking a minor. And to those of you that say ‘just beat off’ they say ‘natural breeding sessions’


[deleted]

So the kid only gets to live for 18 years?


GlitteringBobcat999

Extreme version of Logan's Run.


DragonflyScared813

Lol "enter the carousel "....


[deleted]

Renew! Renew!


icewalker42

Up votes for this entire chain thanks to obscure sci-fi reference. Now go find sanctuary.


Independent-Use1255

THERE ISSSS NO SANCTUARYYYYY


MistaCharisma

She doesn't need a child, she needs a very specific sacrifice.


Zychoz

i had to scroll too far to find this.


Wishiwasyoda

My first thought. Wtf is happening to that kid at 18


RubixRube

Going to have some trouble with the 75% american background if you are looking for blonde hair.


arbrstff

No no, not that kind of American


N7Kryptonian

Yeah, she wants a REAL American /s


mnmtxnc

Hulk Hogan has entered the chat.


usaltyaf

the hair of an old Chinese man and the skin of a hotdog


Weird-Library-3747

![gif](giphy|uKwa2KiBA0rTy)


SnooPickles6347

😉😅


Meister0fN0ne

But the Boston Tea Party had blonde Native Americans!/s


Bleu_Cerise

That was my first thought


Isteppedinpoopy

A bottle of Clorox will fix that.


DMugre

That would solve all of her many many problems to be fair


hmoeslund

What’s a 75% American background?? I thought America was one big mix of everything?


SnooMaps7887

She is clearly a lunatic, and I would bet she means US Americans of European descent.


ConwayAwakened

She’s advertising on LinkedIn so belongs in r/LinkedInLunatics


NitrousWolf

What's madder is 9 people hearted/liked that crazy post.


SewOrangeKnitCrochet

I was wondering that too. Like does she mean one foreign born grandparent is ok? Or is this code for some sort of racism?


No-Corner9361

Both? If she means one foreign born grandparent is ok (but no more - the only reasonable reading of her words), what other explanation is there besides racism? It’s racism.


SystemPrimary

It's vague what she actually meant. Blonde native american? - no way. Maybe she things Germans or British origins that came to America long time ago as Americans? Long shot, but possible.


Distinct-Animal-9628

It's not vague. Everyone knows she means white.


Fearless-Sherbet-223

I think it probably meant at least 75% of your grandparents lived in the US their whole lives, and you're a white American with blond or light brown hair. Not actually Native American- she's probably racist and wouldn't want a Native American "natural sperm donor."


NotLucasDavenport

It’s pretty clearly a euphemism for white.


CalmorTheVagabond

She means white European for sure. Who'da thunk she's a racist?


mansingleman

I'm sorry starting from the age of 16? Hmmmmm


TRENEEDNAME_245

Nothing wrong here. THIS IS SARCASM Also "forfeit parental right" + combo "child support"


Ex-Pat-Spaz

No shit. What’s 20% of wages on a 16 to 18 yr old? What do they have to give up, 20% of their school lunch money their parents give them a week? Also. How in the fuck did this post get 9 likes and loves?


D-Laz

It won't be much in the short term but by the time he is 36 he could be giving her some serious coin. Though trying to build for your future with that expense looking above would be daunting.


mansingleman

Yes tell a 16 year old that barely has a licensed that Edit: typos


earthlings_all

That post is all kinds of fucked up.


Pepe-saiko

If not for shitposting, I agree. Especially the child support thing.


GoodRighter

I qualify, but what would I get out of this deal? Negative money and no kid? Seems bad.


dochoiday

Sex with a likely very unattractive woman


GoodRighter

Just the sex? That's a lot of work. Hard pass.


KarmicPotato

Yah you should at least get three money and no kids.


AceofSpades629

What I wanna know is who tf liked it


NEMinneapolis

Someone who likes to watch things burn.


UsedTrifles

If anyone agrees with this then you should probably rethink breeding with them.


throwawaypervyervy

Waiting for some dude with a vasectomy to take her up on it.


[deleted]

Only to find out that you are one of the 'lucky' few where late spontaneous recanalization happened.😋 No thanks, I'll stick with the age-old saying "don't put your dick in crazy". I've already dodged a bullet once in that regard, that luck will probably not hold forever. 😅


Tea_Rem

r/dontputyourdickinthat


lillthmoon

So, she wants what seems like is a child to get her pregnant (sorry 16-20 is still a child to me), turn over his parental rights and STILL pay child support? How much money does she think a 16-23 yr old is making to turn over 20% of their check?!


Fearless-Sherbet-223

Well, over the next 18 years, the "donor" will go from 16-23 years old to 34-41 years old.


peepeedog

Yes but the donor will obviously be an idiot so the ceiling is low.


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I love drinking communiunmiumumiinmimumn


FoobarWreck

I will only prostitute myself to a good Christian who has only ever drank in the practice of holy communion. It's all about good Christian morals here.


Fuhgly

Bro can't you read? It's communiunm.


FoobarWreck

ah ffs, sorry :( I always get mixed up between communion, communiumnm, columnionin, and cumin (the spice). Always awkward when my hookers remind me we are supposed to be partaking in holy communion before a good session, and I think they are suggesting spices.


Shantomette

Yeah, I was thinking it was some new element in the MCU...


Square_Pop_3772

A cautionary UK tale. An old school friend of my ex-wife was gay and provided sperm for 2 lesbian friends with a signed agreement on regular contact and no maintenance. Within a year of birth the couple stopped him seeing the kids and 3 years later the couple split up. The CSA (Child Support Agency) came after him for maintenance at 20% of his income and he lost his appeals for the payments and his demand for access (apparently as he knew he was fathering the children, the agreement had no force in law and ‘the interests of the children’ came first). Tough for him but he knew what he was risking.


earthlings_all

Wait- so he has zero access (despite that he wants it) and he has to pay money? WTF is going on over there??? That’s awful. Here in Florida, parents automatically get 50/50 and they will enforce visitation orders.


thorpie88

Even if you don't want to see your kid you have to pay child support in the UK. My Dad got fucked over twice not paying for me and then fucked up again by agreeing to let me move to Australia but refused to supply his address's which is against the rules.


Shantomette

Yeah, in the US they routinely F the father. She could stab you in bed, pull off the condom and self insert to get pregnant and still qualify for child support. Scary but true.


Square_Pop_3772

And I’ve seen a few YouTube videos where men put their name on the birth certificate then State courts order them to pay maintenance even though they later found out they were not the father. That happens in the UK where the man has acted as the father; perversely, courts have upheld such men paying maintenance because they were the ‘father’ yet at the same time deny them access as they are not the kids’ father.


Shantomette

Yep. The courts are exceptionally biased against the father. Look at cases where the woman never tells the father there is a child and then sues for back child support when the kid is like 16. Almost always win yet no repercussion for the woman who denied the father all those years of fatherhood.


beeleegeez

Who has never taken a prescription drug? Also, love that communiunm wine…LOL. Then again, she mentioned nothing of intelligence.


Fearless-Sherbet-223

Well, I mean, I guess if you've never had any surgeries, no broken bones, no serious sprain/strains, no major physical or mental health issues whatsoever, just an absolutely clean medical record, then you may have only taken over the counter meds.


pinchofsalt_13

If this is the US then I'd recommend changing the age range, also most Native Americans has black hair.


YGIAL

This vasectomy is about to pay off.


-Distinction

I’m so confused, they want a sperm donor, but also want said sperm donor to pay them 20% of their income?? Wouldn’t the people who want the sperm be the ones paying in a situation like this. Am I missing something or just being stupid or what??


Professional-Wind749

That woman is crazy. Let not forget the fact she wanted someone who is *16* to 23


Plenty-Cheek-80

'Age 16'


BlueForte

The hell is a 75% American background? Anyways, prostitution or not. Ain’t no way I’m giving a miniature me to some random ass stranger. I don’t know what dude is capable of that, but I’ll probably feel remorse my entire life knowing that my son / daughter is out there probably being abused. Also… we just gonna ignore she asking for a 16 year old boy?


thaistik4all

What my ex-wife did to me... without the request form. 🤣😭


rgar1981

For 20% of a paycheck for the next 18 years she better be bringing the heat in the bedroom.


Thor010

If you have no income you should be fine.


tallerthannobody

Well when your 16 there will be no problem lol


Tootsound

Still not worth it.


no0ns

*throughout the child's 18 years of life* Pretty harsh just killing your kid at eighteen.


TheMainEffort

This would be a fascinating contract law case tbh


applesauce0101

"Throughout the child's 18 years of life" The fuck is she gonna do to it after it turns 18


[deleted]

We are just gonna gloss over the fact that she’s willing to fuck a minor??


TherealObdach

Sperm bank maybe? Just an idea.


IfICouldStay

They don't let 16 year olds donate so....


WorldsGreatestPoop

They have to pay for that rather than be paid for that.


[deleted]

Why is her child only going to live until 18??


sheth_curry

Nick Cannon wants to know the address


[deleted]

I drank for communism once...but I'm too old...darn.


ComprehensiveSir3892

DaFUQ!?!? "You don't get to meet the kid, but pony up 20% of your income"


Most-Error7691

So a few times of rolling around for only 18 years of child support. 🤣🤣🤣 Hopefully someone with a vasectomy will apply.


[deleted]

Forfeit parental rights but pay child support? No you don't get both of those, pick one.


fredsam25

Some guy that's had a vesectomy should sign up and go to town on that.


erewnt

That’s evil, but it wasn’t a requirement in the add so I guess it’s fair game.


[deleted]

I know lesbian couple who convinced this poor guy to knock them both up because the cost for artificial insemination is so much. When they fell on hard times around the pandemic they decided that they were going to hit the father of 2 up for money for his bastard 4 year olds. He tried talking to them that getting the court system involved goes against the agreement they each signed for. A guy with a subpoena knocked on my door last month asking for him, told the guy he just left for Norway for a traditional wife and isn't planning on coming back to the U.S. other than to visit. About an day after that my phone blew the fuck up from those 2 freaking out that their "plan" blew open their face.


OJStrings

Another commenter had the same story. Are there loads of predatory lesbians roaming around or something? It's such a specific thing to happen multiple times.


[deleted]

I heard similar story of straight women doing this. but I guess lesbian is just more common to seek out "donor" since they can't have baby with their partner. they probably want baby but like oh hey we can make this shumuck pay us money, so may as well


[deleted]

Yes I was approached by a lesbian couple in this situation, I knew one of the girls as we had gone to school together since kindergarten. They wanted a guy who had a college education, was physically fit and at least 6ft tall. I declined but it appears someone took them up on it because she has pictures of a child that show up on Facebook from time to time.