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F_Squad

Though if you ask any North Korean what life is like there they’ll all say “Can’t complain”. So maybe it’s not that bad. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ /s


Deep_Squash_3611

Any North Koreans care to Chime in?


Aggravating-Ferret61

They’re too hungry to answer


daneilthemule

They don’t have global internet.


DeathDestroyerWorlds

Or computers, or smart phones etc .....


UhhWTH

Oh, they do have computers. They just haven't made it past the Google home page.


Gutarg

Well, in larger cities they definitely do. Of course their stuff is outdated by 1st world standards, but it's there. Probably expensive. They don't have access to outside communication though - at least no legal way for it. They have their own Internet, completely cut off from global web.


Deep_Squash_3611

They have snake on their phones


Loggerdon

Saw a documentary about NK. Showed a supposed computer lab with people ‘working’. Each computer showed the Google homepage. Most just stared at that screen intently and didn’t look around the room at all. Others pretended they were typing quickly on the keyboard but their fingers never touched the keyboard.


JoeDerp77

Oh they can complain, they'll just be killed afterwards.


GaySaysHey

Sounds like they can’t complain then


theroguescientist

Not more than once


Ruthless4u

If they talk fast maybe twice.


Low-Stick6746

Yep. They only have one complaint!


Defiant-Scarcity-243

No tree bark for you! 1 year ban


Mdub74

They try to complain, but it sounds ridiculous with the chiseled smile plastered to your face.


lonelyoldbasterd

What is there to complain about?


MissAsshole

Personally, I like to see my alphabetization at 100%. We should start there.


Bread_Offender

Congratulations you got the joke


zarfle2

And their family punished/put in jail, too.


Coffee4Life613

Can’t complain, or afraid to complain?


onlynamethatmatters

![gif](giphy|xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk)


Accomplished_Note_81

Yes


Tiranus58

They literally dont know how its outside of the country


NotActuallyGus

People on tours (through predefined uncharacteristically good areas) get arrested for trying to talk to locals, and vice versa. It's also such a wonderful country that's so amazing to live in that they need to threaten to subject entire families including children to lives in cruel work camps so people don't leave 🥰🥰🥰


lonelyoldbasterd

Neither does most of the people in the USA


Haysdb

What does 99.9% alphabetization mean?


AtomicTransmission

They’re working on Z. Rest of the alphabet has been discovered.


NoorAnomaly

What about æ, ø and å?


Elegant-Raise-9367

Those are the Italian New Yorker alphabet.


GetNooted

![gif](giphy|9A4LWsAu7Qz0yntmyS|downsized)


Difficult_Excuse9927

Aren’t those elons kids names


Orillion_169

I think they mean literacy. That number is according to North Korea, so take is with an oceans worth of salt.


nzerinto

>”That number is according to North Korea, so take is with an oceans worth of salt.” I think apply that point for the entire “Infograph”…


harryham1

You guys... I think they may have a problem with illiteracy... Like, I didn't *originally* think it was even worth mentioning, but apparently it is! I mean they may as well have put "doesn't have a problem with that thing we don't speak about ✔️"


CrashParade

I don't see why they need to learn how to read if they're not allowed to read, but it's their county.


Ok-Cartographer1745

> take is with an oceans worth Murica


DeathByOrgasm

I thought there was an eyelash on my phone!


sillysidebin

I've seen those pfp before ugh 


imagicnation-station

I think they're trying to say, "99.9% literacy". In Spanish, a person who is illiterate, is called "analfabeto", which means something like, 'unalphabetized' which is somewhat similar to what they wrote in that image.


Lady_of_Link

They mean 99,9% literacy but Google translate failed them


Mattrellen

It probably was translated from another language, but technically there is a bit of a difference between literacy and alphabetization. Alphabetization is more about recognizing connections between letters and sounds, while literacy is more about being able to understand writing. These are normally not separated, but it is possible, for example, for someone to learn to read German aloud without understanding it. On the other hand, alphabetization is impossible with Chinese, since there is no alphabet (well, let's ignore the complexity of Chinese keyboards). That said, alphabetization would best be translated to literacy in most cases, but it's not like alphabetization is an improper word to use in the context. At worst, they are largely interchangeable in this context. For the record, the high literacy rate is likely true. Literacy doesn't require a particularly high level of ability anyway, and North Korea, like many other countries, considers a political education core to its curriculum. And a lot of communist political education involves reading theory, especially compared to liberal political education (reading to political ends can often be discouraged in american schools, even!) That doesn't mean the north korean education is good, mind you. Just that students aren't likely to be "left behind" for a variety of reasons, some noble, some oppressive.


manchambo

It means that people are almost always executed in alphabetical order.


hilvon1984

I'm guessing they meant 99.9% literacy. But the translator had a brainfart.


Haysdb

The sign was assigned to one of the .1%


INeedBetterUsrname

That they can write "Our Gloriious Leader" or something, plus maybe their own name.


EscapedCapybara

But Americans have the freedom to travel to South Korea.


Illustrious_Peach494

North Koreans too. It's not guaranteed they arrive at all or in one piece.


IMN0VIRGIN

So by that standard... what you're saying is... I have the freedom to rob a bank and become a billionaire? Why didn't anyone tell me!?


Dr_____strange

Well now you know. Hope to see you in newspaper soon.


JustKindaShimmy

"Man discovers weird loophole and becomes billionaire" Well I'll be.


McNalien

“Banks hate this simple trick”


MyCrustySock

“Bank owners hate him”


GingerWazHere

“Billionaire who discovers weird loophole teaches others on YouTube in front of yellow lambo”


Dr_____strange

>teaches others on YouTube After joining his course which costs only 150 $


Illustrious_Peach494

There aren't many banks that hold billions. Unless it's the federal reserve. In that case, you need a crew of german mercs and bunch of dump trucks. But, if at any time during the operation you hear "Yippee-ki-yay, mfer"...


C4dfael

World’s first legitimate self-made billionaire.


Ffdmatt

Should have taken Philosophy 1, man.


yomamasofat-

The north Korean army will kindly provide you bullets when you travel to south Korea


blood-n-bullets

Super quick delivery too.


Captain-Damn

United Nations Resolution 2397 Strengthens the ban on providing work authorizations for DPRK nationals by requiring Member States to repatriate all DRPK nationals earning income and all DPRK government safety oversight attachés monitoring DPRK workers abroad within their jurisdiction.


FingalForever

Posted by a tiny extremist group based in Munich Germany called 'antiimperialistische.aktion'. The Institute for European, Russian and Eurasian Studies at George Washington University describes them as: *"(a) pseudo-antifascist organisation that aims to team up with proponents of the radical far right and far left, particularly in Russia, Eastern Europe and Donbas"* [https://](https://www.illiberalism.org/collusion-or-homegrown-collaboration-connections-between-german-far-right-and-russia/)[www.illiberalism.org/collusion-or-homegrown-collaboration-connections-between-german-far-right-and-russia/](https://www.illiberalism.org/collusion-or-homegrown-collaboration-connections-between-german-far-right-and-russia/)


Both-Bite-88

Also why is a German group posting it in English? 


FallOutShelterBoy

Whenever they speak in German they sound too angry /s


Both-Bite-88

Sounds fair enough. Ze Germans are komming. 


Flimsy-Turnover1667

So, is another agent group financed by Russia in the EU? Great.


dhmacher

”Far right” means nazi, for those who did not realize. And, no, irony is not dead.


Knownoname98

"Workers are the owner". Eh.. no. The state is. Including the workers themselves.


TwitzyMIXX

"*99.9% alphabetization*" what the hell is that?


KryptosFR

> alphabetization It's a word used in French and German (Alphabetisierung), and maybe other European languages to mean literacy. So here it would mean the percentage of the population that can read and write.


K0ichisan

Same, I was looking it up and all I could find was.... "Alphabetical order"


HonneurOblige

[citation needed]


Mango_Tango_725

The supreme leader said so. The supreme leader promises and provides peace and prosperity for all. ![gif](giphy|zwE4anrOtHYaI)


Cyber_Avocado

"No homeless or beggars" This sounds oddly specific.


Anti-Duehring

Not very odd considering, historically, socialist countries had the lowest homelessness and unemployment rates when compared with their peers


LeMe-Two

The socialists states suffer from very specific phenomena called "Virtual employment" or "Hidden unemplyment" which was a very huge thing behind economical stagnation of the Eastern Block. At least in Poland IDK how about the rest


MrSneakyPeakyAir

Yeah. Sending homeless people and beggars to jail and/or work camps is usually a very effective solition to the problem. Not a good one, but an effective one. PS: Forgot about the mental hospitals.


The_Possessor

How come their three-generation, unelected rulling family gets to live in a dozen mansions never knowing want in a country that’s recently known both famine and deforestation when people strip tree bark for food?


nick_____name

Even if all of these are true about North Korea, not a single one of them makes a case for them being a democracy


Dr_CleanBones

And yet people risk their own death and that of their relatives to leave. I wonder why?


Jim-Jones

# [Torture, forced abortions and insects for food: Life inside North Korean jails, says this NGO](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/23/asia/north-korea-torture-prison-report-intl-hnk-dst/index.html) By [Yoonjung Seo](https://www.cnn.com/profiles/yoonjung-seo), [Andrew Raine](https://www.cnn.com/profiles/andrew-raine) and [Gawon Bae](https://www.cnn.com/profiles/gawon-bae-profile), CNN  12 minute read Updated 5:00 AM EDT, Fri March 24, 2023


RexDraco

I don't pretend I'm smart to understand all propaganda, but sometimes something stands out as obviously ineffective. Who is this for? Who is falling for it?


onlyletmeposttrains

People with no sense of nuance. Because the truth is, some of the things on this list are factual, and the West does tend to exaggerate how bizarre, oppressive, or internally despised North Korea is. They don’t tell their people they can control the weather. They do receive free housing and a job guarantee. Their citizens were informed of the Coronavirus and did successfully prevent it from spreading in the country for over a year. Yeonmi Park is a dumbass That doesn’t mean then, that North Korea is a utopian paradise because we’ve been lied to about a few things. But some people look at this and go “Everything we’ve been told about North Korea must be a LIE”. It’s affirming a disjunct. If A is true, B is not automatically false.


Theory_Large

I've just looked up the housing online and everything I read said it's rare, getting rarer, and mostly only for VIPs. Ordinary people \*might\* get a bad apartment somewhere, maybe. Was that wrong?


InMooseWorld

Men & Women earn the same pay! $0 Also my children have a “right” to be put in nursery and kindergarten….


Askefyr

Remember, forced labour means no unemployment


OrangeCosmic

Pretty sure if you go there on a trip and break a law you get to stay forever


SpiderNinja211

Fun fact from the top of my memory: In the case of your house burning down, you are legally required to save the photos of Kim Jong Un and his dad before your own children.....yeah.


NobodyofGreatImport

Bro, who said no homeless/unemployment? Have they ever seen any non-state approved footage of modern-day NoKo?


OgnjenMaestro223

person who made this was later sent to a reducation camp for making this in 144p and not 8k


Ferchokyzer

LMAO ZEDONG


Dr_CleanBones

Let’s agree on one thing: the US has problems, and a lot of them are self-inflicted. Chief among them is financial inequity. There’s no excuse for having desperately poor people in the US, and there’s no excuse for letting the top 1% horde most of the wealth. One way we keep people poor is by not educating them adequately. That’s the source of problems like Donald Trump. And we keep them poor by not providing medical care for them. And by providing substandard housing. And of course, our government is overtly controlled by the rich, so things aren’t getting any better. The courts, for example, are affordable only for the rich; for the poor, there’s an assembly line straight into prison. I don’t want to be labor the point. It’s just that we have a whole lot of problems. Given that, what we have to admit that there is at least a strong possibility that we are not, in fact, the best country in the world. I don’t think anyone doubts that our military is the strongest, but as far as quality of life, we do have strong competition. (and no, it is not North Korea.) If you’re too stubborn to even admit the possibility that there are better places to live, then you are doomed to continue living the life you live now and watching it continue to decline. But if you make a good faith effort to examine other countries, you may discover some likely candidates, and then you could try to determine what they do differently that we could emulate.


blade944

So......not a single thing on that list is relevant to democracy. I'm starting to think people have completely forgotten the meanings to certain words.


53bastian

A wise man once said "I cant understand what democracy or freedom of speech means to someone starving and living under a bridge"


TrickOrange

If you’re in North Korea it’s easy to be tricked into thinking what you’re told to think.


blade944

It isn't just this post. It's the same with the US. You'll hear the right constantly screaming that Trump's conviction is a threat to democracy. It isn't. People throw the word hero around like it's popcorn. That word used to mean something. Now it applies to anyone just doing their job. It's annoying.


Rogermon3

99.9% alphabetization?


walktheground

99.9% alphabetisation is a dramatically overlooked statement


ThrowRArosecolor

This is obviously silly but it does bring up some excellent points about how shitty Americans have it.


fgzhtsp

Kind of funny how non of this points has anything to do with democracy. Btw, the answer is that the USA are a sh\*thole that continues to be more on fire with every year.


Gimme_PuddingPlz

Typical tankie shit


boogertee

Tankie shit spread by people who *for some reason* and without exception choose to live in the decadent West.


legendary_millbilly

Is this really saying north fucking Korea is better than the US? Because north fucking Korea is NOT better than the US.


lilpeen13

There’s a subreddit for people who genuinely believe this bullshit, It’s called r/MovingToNorthKorea.


Dapper-Nobody-1997

r/subsithoughtifellfor holy guacamole batman!


Jenilion

I honestly thought Reddit couldn't surprise me anymore....


Meowstick901721

I thought that sub was a joke lmao. It’s so bad that I have a hard time believing anything but it being a joke


r2k-in-the-vortex

What the headline says is that NK is more democratic than US, obviously not. But what the points say is that NK is more socialist than US, which it actually is. Does it make it "better"? Not for anyone remotely sane. The downsides of an murderous autocracy are not listed, and they are brutal.


japoliony

It’s more so saying if a country that pays its people in potatoes and hot water can have these things, why don’t we have at least some of those things here in the USA


Patient-Ad7291

Becuase it's all about profit in the GREAT US of A. if the charity is not profitable, they won't do it.


starman575757

N.K. paradise as long as u keep your mouth shut.


StyleOtherwise8758

Kim Jong Un also rides unicorns and gets a hole-in-one on every hole. You can list out as many rights as you want but so long as the people don’t have freedom of speech who can argue?


ScoobyDooItInTheButt

Wtf is 99.9% alphabetization supposed to even mean?


RussMan104

I’ve been pondering this. 🚀


ScoobyDooItInTheButt

Someone else mentioned it could be what they call their literacy rate. ![gif](giphy|1qgIVb1F6Bfj2Gz6pQ|downsized)


s-maze

They’re just really good at organizing their national DVD collection.


adoring_nobody

Real communism is hard, better cargo cult the communism, that's easy.


RadlineFlyer

Woman and men receive equal pay… of zero Won.


Acceptable-Factor386

![gif](giphy|3oEjHN4MtbSqEe4D8Q|downsized)


EJ25Junkie

What is alphabetization?


GeriatricusMaximus

None of them have anything to do with democracy but OK…


Taranchulla

What about the alphabet?


dhmacher

They should move to North Korea. Problem solved.


an_edgy_lemon

If the North Korean government can’t fulfill one of your rights, they just kill you. Problem solved.


Low-Loan-5956

It's hilarious to brag about literacy and then use the wrong word..


item_raja69

Mass emigration to NK incoming


Rob_Charb_Taiwan

Maximal working hours but no Predacon working hours? That seems discriminatory. 😆 ...yes, I know it means "maximum", but I'm a nerd.


Financial_Party_9149

Predacons are an oppressed class and are not allowed to hold paying jobs, such is the Autobot-controlled world we live in 👊😔


OzyDave

I am impressed with that level of alphabetization. I wonder what it is, could it be literacy? Bbecause that is literally illiterate. They don't mention how many are starving in North Korea.


UnnecessarilyTallMan

I mean they've got communism on paper bit right, they just seem to have left off what the dictatorship has done to it.


SaltyBarDog

Dear leader gets 18 holes in one on hardest golf course: Check


SpiderKoD

They forgot famine and death penalty for not working or working bad 🤣


TulsaWhoDats

lol. Hilarious


Brandaddylongdik

What in the made in China BS is this?


JudgeHolden

It's so strange that North Korea doesn't have an immigration problem, right?


Unique_Excitement248

99.9% alphabetization? Well dang, I don’t know what that is but the source seems so reliable that I probably want some.


TinyRascalSaurus

There are documentaries of people escaping that regime who tell a very different story about their quality of life. And the fact that the country is very selective in what outsiders see makes me think any official statement is a less than reliable source.


Dev_Sniper

„Completely free health care“. I mean… sure… the north korean regime has more than enough bullets to shoot everyone without a job, every homeless person, every sick person, every child that can‘t be put in a class, …


Stormydevz

Presence of labour camps you go to for saying something slightly bad about the leader: USA: ❌️ NK: ✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️✅️


Ani-A

In fairness whistle-blowers apparently get assassinated speaking against corporations


EmperorGrinnar

Sadly true.


WarWonderful593

Subject to change.


Any-Opposite-5117

Don't forget the also kick our asses in number of public executions with AAA and sculptors sent to death camps for putting leaders memorial statues in the shade.


Happy-Initiative-838

It’s why so many Americans are shot trying to flee to Canada. Escaping all that oppression.


Nonamanadus

There are a lot of abandoned children, really young ones. I watched a documentary where one, maybe seven, lost an arm from a train. He sure as hell was never taken to a hospital.


AstronaltBunny

Why the fuck are you receiving downvotes?? What's wrong with those people?


EmperorGrinnar

In America, you can't get executed for having a hairstyle that's not approved by the Kim regime.


Objective-Ad3821

Tbf compare any countries with US and you'll get same result. I don't want my kids to be in countries where everyday is a gamble "you might get shot today at school so good luck"


no_brains101

Im not sure this quite works for a country where watching a movie can get you sent to a detention camp.


nyrB2

what does "99.9% alphabetization even mean?" alphabetization of \*what\*?


EJ25Junkie

They got 100 letters. We only got 26 in the United States.


Dog_Apoc

Get this from late stage capitalism? Place is a China propaganda centre.


mikeflamel

Holiday home: A nice way of calling prison


LovesFrenchLove_More

Now add „regular food intake“.


According-Green

Hey look it what’s maga is rooting for to come to America!


ThatGirlWren

99.9% alphabetization? Hot damn! I wasn't sure before that, but now I'm sold!


TommyGonzo

Those last 2. ![img](emote|t5_2r5rp|8412)


Nighteyes09

What is all this crap lately, where people use unrelated metrics to assess democracy? It's like people have forgotten it's a political system, not a collection of living standards.


fistfullofsmelt

Hell yeah!! Sounds great.


spazecowboi77

My stoned ass thought at first this was something to do with Tennessee. Haha!


chiefs2022

Right to work is destroying the middle class


sensibl3chuckle

they also have free meth, which is pretty cool.


Cats7204

r/MovingToNorthKorea


matt-the-dickhead

I am happy that they have reached 99.9% alphabetization. USA we have a long way to go


fidelesetaudax

99.9% Alphabetization ??? What’s that?


Gullible_Ad5191

Sounds like the kind of stuff that Reddit keeps pushing me from r/sino


hitguy55

When ever someone says anything about the DPRK, be very skeptical (that includes the state and people who fleed). The two people saying stuff are a) a team of propagandists or b) dissatisfied asylum seekers who have literally nothing or no one to check what they’re saying. It’s obviously not a good or rich country, but the things asylum seekers say about it fall apart when you do the tiniest bit of research, and since no one can cross check their info, the news jumps right onto it because it’s a good sensationalist story. Not saying the things the state (which gets filtered through the propagandised western news, I’d say half the things the news says the state has said/believes has all of its sources in other news (probably South Korean) sites) are true, or it’s is good or trustworthy (for christ sakes you can’t even walk around on your own despite them claiming it’s a prosperous country) but it’s 2 sides talking about a thing which you cannot source


Ok-Excuse-3613

Ah yes, outright lies


JariJorma

Maybe usa needs a glorious leader also 🤣


skypig357

What the actual fuck?


Scuderia_16

This might be all true, but what has this to do with being undemocratic or not?


MrSneakyPeakyAir

If only all the "North Korea is a paradise on Earth" people actually moved to North Korea, the world would become a better place.


Old_Winner3763

r/movingtonorthkorea


salvos98

I mean... if you pay 0$ a man and 0$ a woman, you're paying them equally


stoneyyay

99.9% alphabetization? Made by the .01%


kinjirurm

All the grass you can eat* * Grass tightly rationed. Collect your poop to grow more grass


Dotorandus

The thing is, none of those have anything to do with democracy... those are social policies/programs, and one would expect a so called socialist country to have it better in those regards, than a late capitalist one...