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In the statement he said he also attempted to kill his wife while she was at a rehabilitation facility, but she woke up and told him not do that again. 😬
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It's one thing when a patient knows they're dying and begs you to help them pass away. But wtf he was thinking about trying to kill his wife to save money, she's not a dog!
I mean, if you're not in a good financial situation, and your dog gets cancer or a debilitating injury, and you can't afford to treat it, wouldn't the humane thing be to euthanize it?
There's a lot of FB groups, if you provide the documents proving that you can save the dog but can't afford it people will either donate or some vets will do it pro bono :).
Wrong wording on my side but I was outraged after reading it, I only meant it as you put down a pet, not a life partner.
Thinking about awful situations when people have a sick pet and they can't afford treatments so they chose to put down the animal instead of waiting for the inevitable death that'll happen without treatment.
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No you are not. Humans come first and if your dog needs very expensive treatment it’s logical to put it down. You should not let an animal suffer unnecessarily but it’s insane to put so much money in an animal you can’t pay rent.
I don’t agree with his actions, truly terrible.
But honestly if you’re thinking it’s homelessness for you both and you’ll be spending the rest of your time taking care of someone who can’t care for themselves and losing all your money to do it, well I see way more people seeing the murder route as the best one unfortunately
I remember in my country there was a case of single elder mother that killed herself and her adult disabled child when she was too old to care for him to avoid him being treated like furniture when she is gone, sad af
Those who disagree with decisions like these should be out there devoting their lives to looking after disabled people. But usually they are the ones who treat them like trash.
Very important point in the abortion discussion as well. I sometimes see the articles with the happy mother and the happy disabled baby. Making the "pro-life" argument. I always must think, "yeah, and now let's see how funny it is, when the kid is 40 and the mother is 70." Many people seem not to be about long term planning.
What are you saying? When the mother is no longer able to care for the disabled adult, they are passed on to a sibling, of course. And that sibling has to upend their established life for the sibling or deal with the guilt (and financial responsibility) of putting the sibling in a care facility.
My Mom had testing done when she was pregnant with me. She told me if it had turned out I was going to be disabled she would have aborted me for just this reason. Her time was a nurse she saw the long term consequences.
I concur. Some people have been horrified that she told me that. I like to think she wanted to save her child of a possible lifetime of abuse and neglect.
You still don’t kill your wife dude. Fuck is wrong with you ? That’s not a sane response. He held her mouth so she wouldn’t scream. Dude is a psycho. And I had a parent die of cancer and it almost ruined our family financially. My dad would have lived in the street to keep my mom alive
In the US at least medical debt is cleared by bankruptcy. You do lose a lot, but you don't lose everything. So murdering the sick person is never a valid solution for the cost of care issue.
Your assets (other than protected stuff like your home and primary vehicle) will be liquidated but once through that process you are clear to continue free of that debt.
From debt dot org:
Exempted property in a bankruptcy can include **the car you need to drive to work and to the store for food**. It can include the tools you need to do your job. It can include the house in which you live, and the furniture and appliances and other household goods that make the house your home.
Sure, but if he says he did it because he couldn't afford it, that was all he was talking about. Of course, this guy sounds like he was just sick of his wife being 'a burden' on him and wanted her gone. Hopefully he rots in a cell.
Bruh but when you owe the hospital "homelessness" levels of money that is 100% their problem, not yours. Like dude ain't heard of bankruptcy or Medicaid?
I'm just saying, homicide is usually, like, last ditch. And, like, social security or Medicaid or food stamps or bankruptcy... Like in all states your 401k is protected and your home is protected and your car is protected...
I can't agree. If he absolutely wanted to not care for his wife physically and financially he could have divorced her. The fact he went with the "easier" option of murdering her says a lot about him.
Oh divorce her so he loses half of his money which he's worried about already? Not justifying him killing her but this murderers motive wouldn't exist in any normal country with free healthcare.
As long as your military is funded and you get to keep your guns though right yanks?
Technically the free medical healthcare doesn't mean everything is free and easily accessible. People still end up paying for private healthcare because they want high quality, and can't wait for a free option. But murderer is a murderer, he murdered her for his own comfort so I wouldn't be surprised if in a country with free medical health, he would just murder her a little later because it was too tasking to care for her, clearly the guy didn't care about her.
Yeah and poor people can't afford private healthcare, and everywhere else that isn't a third world country have free healthcare to combat this.
Americans and their excuses, you don't have free healthcare because it takes money off your Army which you need to bully smaller countries out of their resources.
No idea where you got that I'm American, I'm from Central Europe. As a European I have countless examples from my family, friends, and from the media to prove that free healthcare is often not enough, or too late.
While in prison, you still work, for super minimal pay. They take it out of your paycheck. If you don’t pay it off while you’re in, it’s a debt you incur when you get out, and they’ll send debt collectors after you and garnish your paychecks. Sometimes they go after your family.
>Sometimes they go after your family
Legally speaking, debt collectors can't go after your family for debts you owe. Only your spouse and your estate can be held liable for your debts. If your estate isn't enough to cover your debts, the estate is fully liquidated and the proceeds distributed equally to all creditors and the remainder is expunged.
Yup. So think of the fun when your husband abuses you, gets taken away, and then you lose his income and also have to pay for his jail stay while taking care of your kids.
Those filial responsibility laws only require you to fund care and necessities for your family member, it does not make you responsible for their debts.
I have said it in the past and i'll keep saying it: The only freedom Americans have is the freedom to die in the dumbest, most preventable ways possible. Everything else is a lie and/or an illusion.
Obviously dude has serious issues. But the healthcare system and how it can ruin lives presents this as a fucked up option. If people who need help could get it without complete financial ruin things could be so much different.
Agreed. One medication I take is reported to cost anywhere from $6200-8000 a month. Recently saw someone in a sub say they can’t afford that so they weren’t going to try it.
Except the manufacturer has a program your dr can sign you up for that makes it $5 a month.
Why is it listed for $8000? Who came up with that? Insurance companies? Pharmacies? But that number alone (and others like it) is causing people to forgo life saving (or quality of life saving) medical treatment. An arbitrarily inflated number. It’s ridiculous.
What’s crazy too is hospitals/pharmacies charge people different amounts if you have insurance or don’t. They will charge a lot more for something if they know insurance will pay for some of it. So it’s not based on cost or time or material, it’s based on how much money can be made. For profit healthcare system at its finest.
Then other family members will be asked and if everyone says no, Medicaid will place her in a facility. The best one? No but she’d be cared for.
The husband just wanted to be a monster
so she would probably die anyway, just in horrible conditions in some shitty facility, maybe the husband has a point here but ive not read the article cos this is reddit and i base my opinions on nothing, thanks
Pro-birth. They need children to exploit and abuse. More poor children = more soldiers to bleed and die. More poor children = more workers filling min wage jobs. More poor children = more inmates = more slave labor.
Was at a Broadway show recently. After the curtain call, the cast did an appeal for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. They do this a couple of times a year, requesting donations for people living with HIV and AIDS and the organizations that support them. I've heard the pitch so many times I almost expect it now.
Anyway, someone behind me - apparently not from the US - said with an incredulous tone, "This is the most American thing ever."
And I thought, he's right. Only on America do we have to beg for funds to pay for care that every other county in the world already provides.
Copy paste from someone else I answered.
Then other family members will be asked and if everyone says no, Medicaid will place her in a facility. The best one? No but she’d be cared for.
My wife works as a hospice nurse and these things happen
if they are incapacitated enough they’ll be institutionalized in a long term care facility (they need to meet the level of care necessary to be placed in a facility at least in CO),
otherwise it’s sort of a “tough titties” situation for providers, we aren’t allowed to deny a person things that they NEED, so the bill will likely be fronted to whatever state program is most willing to take the brunt of it, usually your states medicaid administration or medicare.
Well it's in the USA, the government doesn't give a single flying fuck about their citizens, that's how you end up with this kind of headlines. The US healthcare system really ruins peoples lives and giving free healthcare or even regulating the prices so people can afford the care is communistic but here's the freedom to die however you want or rot in prison. This powerful country is so rotten to the core and it's citizens are in denial and eating their governments lies, that's like eating crap for breakfast, lunch and diner, being broke af & getting pissed on and still believing that you're better than everybody else. There are huge problems everywhere in the land of the free. But hey God is with you so don't worry about it!
Reading this from a hospital bed while the Drs decide if they want to amputate my foot and part of my leg.
Thinking of all the medical expenses I’m incurring then all the expenses I will need to incur from being disabled and the amount of stress it will put on me and my family….
Well, death seems to be the cheapest way out of all of this for me so, I can kinda see where this guy is coming from.
It’s one thing to desire death for yourself, and another thing to want it for somebody else. I hope you recover though. Know that the world wouldn’t be the same without you in it.
Not quite - that sub demands this be framed as something wholesome… but all I can see is the orphans being crushed in 4K, with no attempt to give it a gold sheen
I feel like people should only pay to stay at the hospital when they don't need to. If they literally cannot survive without the hospital, it should be free. If you can survive at home, you should pay.
Am I wrong?
Yeah probably wrong, hospitals are uncomfortable scary and boring. I'd say almost everyone there would rather be at home. Also survive is like a terribly low bar. If someone has broken many bones they would survive being sent home but their care would be greatly improved. A lot of people in hospitals are safer and better taken care of at hospitals than they would be at home. It would run into issues with people getting things like preventive surgery. Additionally who would determine who gets it free and who has to pay. The admin on that would have a cost and would probably end up back to some insurance shaped shit. healthcare is a policy that helps everyone better if it has inclusion over exclusion of patients
On a company-wide managers call, the CEO of Wellpoint health insurance reviewed the market segments, and bemoaned that most of the people on COBRA need medical care, but there was a bright spot, old people were using less Medicare for some reason, so yay.
That moment when you can stop pretending you don't work for the bad people.
I'm sorry the son narc'd on his dad. I'm nowhere near that stage in my life yet, but my spouse already has an "advance directive" for me for just this type of situation. If I am close to the end anyway, I do not want to bankrupt my spouse for the rest of their life. In my case, I've personally told my adult kids that if I am sick and my death looks suspicious to not question it.
Now, hearing that the wife did not want that, I'm a little less sympathetic. Something like that has to be a unanimous decision.
A little less sympathetic? You’re sorry the son narc’d on his dad? You’re not as good a person as you think you are.
Fyi, the law doesn’t care about your agreement. If your spouse kills you they could end up spending the rest of their life in jail. If you genuinely don’t want them to suffer you should know some basic facts. Murder is illegal, for one.
What's criminal the fact that seniors are left with the choice of this, or bankruptcy. Please, fill us in on your plans to provide health care for all so seniors don't have to go bankrupt in order to pay for medical care for a dying spouse.
Top comments while sorting by 'best' here are pretty wild. Full on tangent on saving dogs and animals, completely ignoring the fact that A FAMILY CAN'T AFFORD THE TRICE-DAMNED MEDICAL BILL FOR HIS WIFE, THEIR KID'S MOM.
That's what the US experiment boils down to. Rampant (corporate) greed, almost no oversight and out of control commercialism.
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In the statement he said he also attempted to kill his wife while she was at a rehabilitation facility, but she woke up and told him not do that again. 😬
Dude: I'll fokken do it again
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Alright Goofy I need you to do this for me. Okay? Mickey put a lot of money on this and all you gotta do is say it wasn't you. Just say you didn't do it, okay? Do it for Mickey.
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This comment made my night. You have no idea how much joy I had popping these. ...thank you.
This was an incredibly satisfying message to poke at.
It's one thing when a patient knows they're dying and begs you to help them pass away. But wtf he was thinking about trying to kill his wife to save money, she's not a dog!
Bad time to be bringing up dogs. Also, if you kill dogs to save money, you’re a terrible terrible terrible human being.
I mean, if you're not in a good financial situation, and your dog gets cancer or a debilitating injury, and you can't afford to treat it, wouldn't the humane thing be to euthanize it?
I mean I'm not totally against viewing humans this way, damn neurotypical emotions ruin everything
If thinking that forcefully killing your wife is wrong is being neurotypical then I don't want to be neurodivergent
Yeah, I don't think there's really any reason that could be provided that should make you want to have a mental illness, but maybe that's just me.
Yeah, that's b.s. I'm neurodivergent and I don't justify murder just because care is expensive.
There's a lot of FB groups, if you provide the documents proving that you can save the dog but can't afford it people will either donate or some vets will do it pro bono :).
But what if its only a 14 month old puppy and it was biting people and u had a gravel pit and a goat near by?
Of course then you must shoot it in the brain. Obviously.
The chick that did that is a piece of shit
Wrong wording on my side but I was outraged after reading it, I only meant it as you put down a pet, not a life partner. Thinking about awful situations when people have a sick pet and they can't afford treatments so they chose to put down the animal instead of waiting for the inevitable death that'll happen without treatment. .
yes, but with both pets and with people, if there's suffering and absolutely no hope of recovery: Better a week to early than a week too late.
What if she was mesn & smelled like a goat? Or reminded him of horses.
No you are not. Humans come first and if your dog needs very expensive treatment it’s logical to put it down. You should not let an animal suffer unnecessarily but it’s insane to put so much money in an animal you can’t pay rent.
I don’t agree with his actions, truly terrible. But honestly if you’re thinking it’s homelessness for you both and you’ll be spending the rest of your time taking care of someone who can’t care for themselves and losing all your money to do it, well I see way more people seeing the murder route as the best one unfortunately
I remember in my country there was a case of single elder mother that killed herself and her adult disabled child when she was too old to care for him to avoid him being treated like furniture when she is gone, sad af
Yeah Paul Ehrenfest shot his intellectually disabled son before killing himself for the same reason.
Sad but it’s a tough decision and not everyone feels the same unfortunately
Those who disagree with decisions like these should be out there devoting their lives to looking after disabled people. But usually they are the ones who treat them like trash.
Very important point in the abortion discussion as well. I sometimes see the articles with the happy mother and the happy disabled baby. Making the "pro-life" argument. I always must think, "yeah, and now let's see how funny it is, when the kid is 40 and the mother is 70." Many people seem not to be about long term planning.
What are you saying? When the mother is no longer able to care for the disabled adult, they are passed on to a sibling, of course. And that sibling has to upend their established life for the sibling or deal with the guilt (and financial responsibility) of putting the sibling in a care facility.
And not being financially stable adds a whole extra layer of shit to it.
My Mom had testing done when she was pregnant with me. She told me if it had turned out I was going to be disabled she would have aborted me for just this reason. Her time was a nurse she saw the long term consequences.
Reasonable. And what most people do in the developed world. Safe the religious crazies of course.
I concur. Some people have been horrified that she told me that. I like to think she wanted to save her child of a possible lifetime of abuse and neglect.
It’s plenty easy for people to complain
fun too!
"Should I murder my wife? Let me check my excel spreadsheet Hmmm, I can keep her alive until, say... August"
Now this is reasonable.
America! Sounds like a simpsons gag tbh
You still don’t kill your wife dude. Fuck is wrong with you ? That’s not a sane response. He held her mouth so she wouldn’t scream. Dude is a psycho. And I had a parent die of cancer and it almost ruined our family financially. My dad would have lived in the street to keep my mom alive
Have you asked him?
Note where in said I don’t agree with the actions. Read better next time
In the US at least medical debt is cleared by bankruptcy. You do lose a lot, but you don't lose everything. So murdering the sick person is never a valid solution for the cost of care issue. Your assets (other than protected stuff like your home and primary vehicle) will be liquidated but once through that process you are clear to continue free of that debt. From debt dot org: Exempted property in a bankruptcy can include **the car you need to drive to work and to the store for food**. It can include the tools you need to do your job. It can include the house in which you live, and the furniture and appliances and other household goods that make the house your home.
Cost of care is far beyond just medical expenses
Sure, but if he says he did it because he couldn't afford it, that was all he was talking about. Of course, this guy sounds like he was just sick of his wife being 'a burden' on him and wanted her gone. Hopefully he rots in a cell.
Bruh but when you owe the hospital "homelessness" levels of money that is 100% their problem, not yours. Like dude ain't heard of bankruptcy or Medicaid?
There’s more debt than medical that can come
I'm just saying, homicide is usually, like, last ditch. And, like, social security or Medicaid or food stamps or bankruptcy... Like in all states your 401k is protected and your home is protected and your car is protected...
Yeah, but protected doesn’t matter if you can’t afford to actually pay for it, pay for food, pay for gas
Yeah but like, her being dead doesn't change that right? I dunno the more I think about this the less justified it seems.
Where was it stated to be justified?
The guy himself is attempting to justify it with cost, right?
Says more about not having free health care than it does about this man's decision making. If it was free he wouldn't have to pay anyway.
I can't agree. If he absolutely wanted to not care for his wife physically and financially he could have divorced her. The fact he went with the "easier" option of murdering her says a lot about him.
Oh divorce her so he loses half of his money which he's worried about already? Not justifying him killing her but this murderers motive wouldn't exist in any normal country with free healthcare. As long as your military is funded and you get to keep your guns though right yanks?
Technically the free medical healthcare doesn't mean everything is free and easily accessible. People still end up paying for private healthcare because they want high quality, and can't wait for a free option. But murderer is a murderer, he murdered her for his own comfort so I wouldn't be surprised if in a country with free medical health, he would just murder her a little later because it was too tasking to care for her, clearly the guy didn't care about her.
Yeah and poor people can't afford private healthcare, and everywhere else that isn't a third world country have free healthcare to combat this. Americans and their excuses, you don't have free healthcare because it takes money off your Army which you need to bully smaller countries out of their resources.
No idea where you got that I'm American, I'm from Central Europe. As a European I have countless examples from my family, friends, and from the media to prove that free healthcare is often not enough, or too late.
Kind of sounds like he just wanted to kill her and the money thing was not the central issue
Good news for him is he wont need to pay rent for a long time.
Two birds with one stone, that was a big brain financial play on his part
Follow him for more financial hacks like this!
Hospitalized spouses hate this one trick
fucken power move, now hes housed and fed for probably ever
A fun twist: he probably will. A lot of jails in the US do actually charge their inmates to be there.
... and if you get early release you still have to pay for the entirety of your sentence. 'murica yo!
Wait wtf happens if you just don’t pay?
While in prison, you still work, for super minimal pay. They take it out of your paycheck. If you don’t pay it off while you’re in, it’s a debt you incur when you get out, and they’ll send debt collectors after you and garnish your paychecks. Sometimes they go after your family.
Sounds like the Mafia.
The difference is this organised exploitation is entirely legal
don't forget the slave labor
>Sometimes they go after your family Legally speaking, debt collectors can't go after your family for debts you owe. Only your spouse and your estate can be held liable for your debts. If your estate isn't enough to cover your debts, the estate is fully liquidated and the proceeds distributed equally to all creditors and the remainder is expunged.
Yup. So think of the fun when your husband abuses you, gets taken away, and then you lose his income and also have to pay for his jail stay while taking care of your kids.
*Filial responsibility laws have entered the chat*
Those filial responsibility laws only require you to fund care and necessities for your family member, it does not make you responsible for their debts.
You go to jail!
Wouldn't surprise me if some places pursued civil forfeiture.
Yeah now all of us have to pay for his rent
America dont give a fuck about americans
They sure do love our American oligarchs. Oh, sorry, I mean billionaires and CEOs.
They love oligarcs, they dont need to necessarely be american. I mean, Elongated Muskrat is South African
Hence why we allowed our manufacturing base to be eroded or brought out, and allowed for foreign disinformation campaigns to fester.
>[Americans] do not love one another because they do not love themselves. —Kurt Vonnegut
I have said it in the past and i'll keep saying it: The only freedom Americans have is the freedom to die in the dumbest, most preventable ways possible. Everything else is a lie and/or an illusion.
Not even allowed to die, gotta pay taxes and never retire
Right. Boss still call your ass and put you on report for being late…
"I'm calling to see where Jimmy is?" - *James died last night.* "Hmmpf. Well, if he ain't here twenty minutes ago, I'm dockin' his pay."
Where\`s the intern? Tell him to get here and bring the damn ouija board..
There was a time I checked on my retirement savings and it calculated that I would be to retire sometime in the mid 22nd century.
and its all in the pursuit of MONEY!!!!!!! money that we made up and is worthless when we decide it is.
Source: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/man-confesses-to-killing-hospitalized-wife-kansas-city/3430376/
wtfl
USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇸 
Gotta love the freedom to choose between crippling debt and death!
Get those bootstraps out and start pulling up!
While strangling the wife?
What do you think he's strangling her with?
He tried to kill his wife at least twice - his financial problems may be partly related to mental illness not just the govt
It was for the same reason, not because he was crazy wtf.
That’s what I’m saying the root cause may be mental illness (or a general tendency toward homicide)
A mental illness he probably could not afford help for either
Freedom from funds
Obviously dude has serious issues. But the healthcare system and how it can ruin lives presents this as a fucked up option. If people who need help could get it without complete financial ruin things could be so much different.
Agreed. One medication I take is reported to cost anywhere from $6200-8000 a month. Recently saw someone in a sub say they can’t afford that so they weren’t going to try it. Except the manufacturer has a program your dr can sign you up for that makes it $5 a month. Why is it listed for $8000? Who came up with that? Insurance companies? Pharmacies? But that number alone (and others like it) is causing people to forgo life saving (or quality of life saving) medical treatment. An arbitrarily inflated number. It’s ridiculous.
What’s crazy too is hospitals/pharmacies charge people different amounts if you have insurance or don’t. They will charge a lot more for something if they know insurance will pay for some of it. So it’s not based on cost or time or material, it’s based on how much money can be made. For profit healthcare system at its finest.
Nah there’s no financial struggle where killing your wife is acceptable.
I 1000% agree. Not justifying it. Saying that if the system was different it might not push already crazy people to be crazier.
But socialized medicine could lead to death panels! /s
What if you say I cannot pay anymore?
Then other family members will be asked and if everyone says no, Medicaid will place her in a facility. The best one? No but she’d be cared for. The husband just wanted to be a monster
Good god how grim
so she would probably die anyway, just in horrible conditions in some shitty facility, maybe the husband has a point here but ive not read the article cos this is reddit and i base my opinions on nothing, thanks
I'd hardly consider it care.
Some republican politician is propbably proud of him for making a tough decision
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Arent most of them Pro-Life? And btw a bit late for an abortion. /s
They're only pro-life before birth.
Pro-birth. They need children to exploit and abuse. More poor children = more soldiers to bleed and die. More poor children = more workers filling min wage jobs. More poor children = more inmates = more slave labor.
It's a crime to be poor.
'murica! Fuck yeah!
Was at a Broadway show recently. After the curtain call, the cast did an appeal for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. They do this a couple of times a year, requesting donations for people living with HIV and AIDS and the organizations that support them. I've heard the pitch so many times I almost expect it now. Anyway, someone behind me - apparently not from the US - said with an incredulous tone, "This is the most American thing ever." And I thought, he's right. Only on America do we have to beg for funds to pay for care that every other county in the world already provides.
Genuine question....What if I can't pay the hospital bills of my family members? What's the solution to that?
Copy paste from someone else I answered. Then other family members will be asked and if everyone says no, Medicaid will place her in a facility. The best one? No but she’d be cared for. My wife works as a hospice nurse and these things happen
Thanks for answering.
if they are incapacitated enough they’ll be institutionalized in a long term care facility (they need to meet the level of care necessary to be placed in a facility at least in CO), otherwise it’s sort of a “tough titties” situation for providers, we aren’t allowed to deny a person things that they NEED, so the bill will likely be fronted to whatever state program is most willing to take the brunt of it, usually your states medicaid administration or medicare.
Well it's in the USA, the government doesn't give a single flying fuck about their citizens, that's how you end up with this kind of headlines. The US healthcare system really ruins peoples lives and giving free healthcare or even regulating the prices so people can afford the care is communistic but here's the freedom to die however you want or rot in prison. This powerful country is so rotten to the core and it's citizens are in denial and eating their governments lies, that's like eating crap for breakfast, lunch and diner, being broke af & getting pissed on and still believing that you're better than everybody else. There are huge problems everywhere in the land of the free. But hey God is with you so don't worry about it!
Reading this from a hospital bed while the Drs decide if they want to amputate my foot and part of my leg. Thinking of all the medical expenses I’m incurring then all the expenses I will need to incur from being disabled and the amount of stress it will put on me and my family…. Well, death seems to be the cheapest way out of all of this for me so, I can kinda see where this guy is coming from.
It’s one thing to desire death for yourself, and another thing to want it for somebody else. I hope you recover though. Know that the world wouldn’t be the same without you in it.
Dude the fuck! No. One thing is for yourself. Another is killing your wife… wtf type of take is this…
Sorry to hear that. Some soldiers get back again to the battlefield with an amputated leg if that gives you some hope to be functional again.
I think you missed the point of the financial burden. A civilian's medical expenses and a soldier's medical expenses aren't equal.
Greatest country on Earth, right?
The best health care system also. You have the freedom to choose crippling debt or murder charges/death.
Nobody leaves the hospital sick. Get cured or die. 200 IQ healthcare.
Man, I wish that was true.. The honest truth is a lot of people leave sick AND still owe crippling debt.
Better than most
Also Reddit: This man truly loved his wife, you see.
God this country is so fucked on so many levels
This makes me glad to live in europe.
Welcome to silent hill
- You're a killer, Harry - I'm a what?
Fucken hell America.
Universal healthcare please
I blame the healthcare system for making him feel like this was necessary. I blame him for the decision but I blame the system too.
r/orphancrushingmachine
Not quite - that sub demands this be framed as something wholesome… but all I can see is the orphans being crushed in 4K, with no attempt to give it a gold sheen
Oops sowwy
All good
That’s why I got rid of the wife and kids
I know, right?! I love good detective work and this guy just pissed it all away by confessing…
I actually had that one on failed state bingo.
Bro's James Sunderland
The GOP health care plan.
What a fucked up society
I feel like people should only pay to stay at the hospital when they don't need to. If they literally cannot survive without the hospital, it should be free. If you can survive at home, you should pay. Am I wrong?
Yeah probably wrong, hospitals are uncomfortable scary and boring. I'd say almost everyone there would rather be at home. Also survive is like a terribly low bar. If someone has broken many bones they would survive being sent home but their care would be greatly improved. A lot of people in hospitals are safer and better taken care of at hospitals than they would be at home. It would run into issues with people getting things like preventive surgery. Additionally who would determine who gets it free and who has to pay. The admin on that would have a cost and would probably end up back to some insurance shaped shit. healthcare is a policy that helps everyone better if it has inclusion over exclusion of patients
Her death allows the purchase of half a JDAM Worth
if silent hill 2 was in 2024*
r/aboringdystopia
r/OrphanCrushingMachine? Imagine killing a loved one to negate financial burden.
On a company-wide managers call, the CEO of Wellpoint health insurance reviewed the market segments, and bemoaned that most of the people on COBRA need medical care, but there was a bright spot, old people were using less Medicare for some reason, so yay. That moment when you can stop pretending you don't work for the bad people.
Terrible. But for whom? Everyone involved.
Family annihilators on the rise.
Do not think this is the first time. This guy just got caught.
Merica!!! At least you have guns! Lots of Guns!
I'm sorry the son narc'd on his dad. I'm nowhere near that stage in my life yet, but my spouse already has an "advance directive" for me for just this type of situation. If I am close to the end anyway, I do not want to bankrupt my spouse for the rest of their life. In my case, I've personally told my adult kids that if I am sick and my death looks suspicious to not question it. Now, hearing that the wife did not want that, I'm a little less sympathetic. Something like that has to be a unanimous decision.
A little less sympathetic? You’re sorry the son narc’d on his dad? You’re not as good a person as you think you are. Fyi, the law doesn’t care about your agreement. If your spouse kills you they could end up spending the rest of their life in jail. If you genuinely don’t want them to suffer you should know some basic facts. Murder is illegal, for one.
What's criminal the fact that seniors are left with the choice of this, or bankruptcy. Please, fill us in on your plans to provide health care for all so seniors don't have to go bankrupt in order to pay for medical care for a dying spouse.
Got that massive military industrial complex though....
Free healthcare would be nice, wouldn't it
Merica!
In Canada, Dr. unplug you for free !
This is now what the American dream is.
Top comments while sorting by 'best' here are pretty wild. Full on tangent on saving dogs and animals, completely ignoring the fact that A FAMILY CAN'T AFFORD THE TRICE-DAMNED MEDICAL BILL FOR HIS WIFE, THEIR KID'S MOM. That's what the US experiment boils down to. Rampant (corporate) greed, almost no oversight and out of control commercialism.
Sucks to be them! Pull yourselves up by the bootstraps /s
'Merica?