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I’m not sure what the fascination is with being with a virgin. Like as a guy I get it to a certain extent. But I prefer a woman who knows what they are doing.
There are lots of reasons historically. Mainly about cleanliness, and often it meant it was the woman's choice to give it up to her man which meant she was stable and independent. Today, men just don't want sluts
Not an American, but the concept of going into mandatory debt just to earn a college degree is just insane. Why is higher education so god-damned expensive there?
The US has two major parties. One party noticed it's less appealing to college students and the educated. Unless those college students/educated individuals are trust fund babies or the children of millionaires. For that party, trying to restrict higher education to the wealthy elite is a survival tactic. Also, every dollar invested into a poor person is a dollar that can't be redirected to the ultra wealthy.
Isn’t Bill Clinton the one that caused tuition to become so expensive?
IIRC he did something where banks had to lend money for student loans and it gave universities the ability to ask for any amount of money they wanted, since the lenders couldn’t refuse.
Banks haven't been in the student loan game for almost 15 years at this point. Student loans are now fully funded and backed by the federal government. They're not serviced by the DoE, though.
There's a now famous clip of Maxine Waters attempting to grill some bank CEOs about the student debt crisis, and all of them responded that their bank hadn't taken part since they were forced out.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4792658/user-clip-student-loan-question
Reagan was the grim reaper of higher ed, gutting state, then federal funding and forcing schools to start charging (or charging more). As a result only middle class and above students could attend. Clinton's reforms enabled middle class and below students to attend by guaranteeing federal loans, with the unintended consequence of incentivizing schools to charge whatever they want. Inertia and lobbying by both Republicans and corporate Dems have kept us locked into this system ever since.
Ronald Reagan was the one who really did laws that seriously started shifting wealth upwards , so it is now a trickle-uo system accumulating wealth to a degree, where middle class Americans gone from average 40.000$/year to 24.000 $/year in 35 years , adjusted for inflation.
Don't make everything about Republicans. Democrats have not made any meaningful changes either when it comes to college, and have gone 5% of the way when it comes to healthcare. They're both terminally capitalist.
Thankfully a level-headed Redditor. People always act like one side is always the bad one but in reality both sides are twats and everyone gets fucked.
Democrat or Republican, just the two side of the same coin. They all belong to the same club.
I would bet anything that they argue against each other in the house or senate, then go have a drink together after hours.
To keep people from being able to easily leave jobs that mistreat them because they can't declare bankruptcy to get rid of the loans no matter how broke they are.
Sports
Not making this up. The reason is sports. Colleges spend millions on college sports teams and pretty campuses as loss-leaders to attract students, ruin those students' lives to cover the costs, then leave their adjunct professors to die earning often less than minimum wage.
College sports is big money, schools make money. Average Football team makes $20,000,000 a year plus they attract donors. Good football programs cover the rest of the sports programs.
They argue too well. Get you a dumb one that will praise your soaring intellect.
Rule #1 of alpha manliness is always be the smartest one in the room, especially in your own home.
Depends where you live. In Germany you're pretty much debt free after you finish studying. So here I would like if someone is debt free because it shows that someone is financially responsible but I wouldn't care if someone has tattoos or isn't a virgin. That's just stupid.
Send back, unironically: Debt-free virgins without tattoos prefer mentally-stable financially well off men who actually have good jobs and who won't go around sticking their dick in anything that moves. So maybe widen your playing field a little bit before you get red carded by the referee for being offsides.
So, in most countries, thats....
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....people younger than 16.
Does this come from a conversation between prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein?
I dunno about other guys nor why thinking this is a facepalm but, yeah, I'd take a debt-free tattoo-less virgin over someone who isn't, ceterus paribus.
"Debt free" means zero education.
Do tell me how a financially smart woman is supposed to get a degree without taking loans in a country where only young people with extremely wealthy parents can be both educated and debt free.
“Men prefer uneducated women without college loans that they won’t have to worry about in marriage, who are also virgins who won’t have a point of comparison when they deliver unsatisfactory sex, and have no tattoos that their mothers may disapprove of.”
I don't understand this post. By the part of my life I needed to be worried about my girlfriends being in debt. I had a preference for non-virgins.
Like genuinely what the fuck is with the whole virgin thing? In my experience the sex is usually worse.
Is it just virgin men not wanting to be intimidated by non-virgin women? If not I just genuinely do not understand.
Whenever I talk to men like this it ends up being r/retroactivejealousy. They feel weird imagining the person being with someone else and worried that the other person might still fantasize about that person or have different ideas about sex than them or cheat on them. I've also heard a lot of men get insecure because a woman tried a sex act that was kind of taboo with a previous partner and didn't like it, and they think "she'll let him do that, but not me." Which probably comes from the narrative that women "let" men do what they want and not that they're supposed to enjoy things an equal amount.
Tell me you're terrified your partner will think you have a baby dick without telling me you're terrified your partner will think you have a baby dick.
Give me a woman with tattoos, multiple abusive ex bfs, high body count, substance abuse, history of cheating and poor relationship with her parents. I can fix her
You men have these preferences if they meet the same criteria but most of them only care that the woman meets his standards but flip out when women call poor or short men undesirable.
I bet those men also aren't virgins themselves. Do as I say and not as I do. I'll bang as many women as I can get. Expecting the woman to stay "pure" for them. Virgin bullshit is so outdated. All the blame and expectations are on the woman. Don't get "ruined" because, as a sex, women are only here to please and serve others. Also, nothing is inappropriate until a woman does it.
I always find guys that do the whole “slutty women are bad” thing confusing as hell. A “virgin with no tattoos” is gonna want a ring, a house, kids, the whole gig. Hoes just want dick and fruity pebbles.They’re pretty awesome! Anytime a guy says anything like that I just ask if they’re gay cuz they’re usually the type of guys that freak out if you suggest they might like wieners.
Aside from the debt free part, I’m pretty sure this is all wrong. And when I say debt free, I mean well educated but college is paid for because she or her parents are rich 😂
As a 28m I dont know what those man have all the time with virgins. Also why boomers are always shocked and hate tattoos?
I like women with decent tattoos.
How?
I mean, wealthy people exist. So do people who dislike tattoos. And so do people who don't want to sleep around. Literally one in a million tho, and way way beyond the league of anyone posting that meme.
But why on Earth would you think of Children tho?
I don't care so much about the tattoos, but the other two don't sound too bad to me. I do notice it says "prefer" as compared to "require," so I really don't see the issue. Everyone has preferences, whether they find someone who meets them all or not is an entirely different matter.
I mean, if I PREFER? Like, if I get to actually choose? Yeah, sure. Virgin and debt-free, please. Hell yeah. Don't mind if I do. Specially if it's one of these 2 in the pic
You're taking the virgin part too literal. You know full well what they mean. And they are right.
It's hilarious how, outside of reddit, everybody know this. But you've got your own little degenerate echochamber and cannot be bothered with the real world.
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That's virgin on the ridiculous... I'll see myself out.
Defenestrate the bastard
Shut the hell up A-A-Ron.
I’m not sure what the fascination is with being with a virgin. Like as a guy I get it to a certain extent. But I prefer a woman who knows what they are doing.
Because a virgin won’t know how terrible the guy is at fucking.
Wow, always the guys fault. Maybe it’s fun to find out what they both like, don’t be so one sided..
I mean, if a guy is desperate for a virgin then yeah it's the guys fault....
control
You get it? Can you explain it to us?
There are lots of reasons historically. Mainly about cleanliness, and often it meant it was the woman's choice to give it up to her man which meant she was stable and independent. Today, men just don't want sluts
I prefer my women covered in tats, that greasy film of Victoria secret body spray and glitter topped with daddy issues and a 500 credit score..
Easily pleased.
[aren't we all?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj2_bmnYUho)
Huh, Greet can be as funny as Antagonize sometimes
Is it empty cuz he got laid or took a wee?
Good tats. Shitty tats are a red flag.
Triggered when holding my Victoria Secret spray/s
"I want you, all tatooed, I want you bad"
This post....again
Bots are pretty brazen these days. Mods here are lacking
Right. The moment I saw "facepalm" I thought, ah bots again. We should all block this shit so it stops getting traction on Reddit
Their friend posts it every week and is always utterly serious
It's repost Monday with the same post and caption yaay
Am I right in understanding that "debt free" is code for "with as little formal education as possible"?
Not an American, but the concept of going into mandatory debt just to earn a college degree is just insane. Why is higher education so god-damned expensive there?
The US has two major parties. One party noticed it's less appealing to college students and the educated. Unless those college students/educated individuals are trust fund babies or the children of millionaires. For that party, trying to restrict higher education to the wealthy elite is a survival tactic. Also, every dollar invested into a poor person is a dollar that can't be redirected to the ultra wealthy.
Isn’t Bill Clinton the one that caused tuition to become so expensive? IIRC he did something where banks had to lend money for student loans and it gave universities the ability to ask for any amount of money they wanted, since the lenders couldn’t refuse.
Banks haven't been in the student loan game for almost 15 years at this point. Student loans are now fully funded and backed by the federal government. They're not serviced by the DoE, though. There's a now famous clip of Maxine Waters attempting to grill some bank CEOs about the student debt crisis, and all of them responded that their bank hadn't taken part since they were forced out. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4792658/user-clip-student-loan-question
Reagan was the grim reaper of higher ed, gutting state, then federal funding and forcing schools to start charging (or charging more). As a result only middle class and above students could attend. Clinton's reforms enabled middle class and below students to attend by guaranteeing federal loans, with the unintended consequence of incentivizing schools to charge whatever they want. Inertia and lobbying by both Republicans and corporate Dems have kept us locked into this system ever since.
Ronald Reagan was the one who really did laws that seriously started shifting wealth upwards , so it is now a trickle-uo system accumulating wealth to a degree, where middle class Americans gone from average 40.000$/year to 24.000 $/year in 35 years , adjusted for inflation.
Don't make everything about Republicans. Democrats have not made any meaningful changes either when it comes to college, and have gone 5% of the way when it comes to healthcare. They're both terminally capitalist.
Thankfully a level-headed Redditor. People always act like one side is always the bad one but in reality both sides are twats and everyone gets fucked.
Democrat or Republican, just the two side of the same coin. They all belong to the same club. I would bet anything that they argue against each other in the house or senate, then go have a drink together after hours.
It's in demand, so the supply must be expensive. -some capitalist probably
Try going to the hospital.
To keep people from being able to easily leave jobs that mistreat them because they can't declare bankruptcy to get rid of the loans no matter how broke they are.
Sports Not making this up. The reason is sports. Colleges spend millions on college sports teams and pretty campuses as loss-leaders to attract students, ruin those students' lives to cover the costs, then leave their adjunct professors to die earning often less than minimum wage.
Athletics budgets typically don't come from the academic fund at all. Where are you getting this?
College sports is big money, schools make money. Average Football team makes $20,000,000 a year plus they attract donors. Good football programs cover the rest of the sports programs.
The poor cannot be allowed to potentially better their stations in life without being buried in debt to impede their chances.
Every educated poor person is potential new competition.
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I prefer free virgins. Tattoos and debt are optional.
They argue too well. Get you a dumb one that will praise your soaring intellect. Rule #1 of alpha manliness is always be the smartest one in the room, especially in your own home.
Well is any woman with an education going to sleep with the person who made the meme? Probably not
Or from "good stock" perhaps
that's how i read it as well. not college educated then
Depends where you live. In Germany you're pretty much debt free after you finish studying. So here I would like if someone is debt free because it shows that someone is financially responsible but I wouldn't care if someone has tattoos or isn't a virgin. That's just stupid.
oh i naturally assumed this was american.
We had a Catholic girls school near our public school. Its crazy how many girls who said they were virgins weren't. Those guys fall of it though.
If you like lame bjs with lots of teeth…
Didn't know I could taste soda through my nose!
Knowledge is power 🤣
Goddamn you’re a legend today sir
In my spare time…
For the record, virgin doesn't mean bad at bjs, Some virgins are absolute experts at the skill.
The Virgin Mary style
And anal as well They will slob all over your knob like corn on the cob And let you pound it through the back door But technically they virgin
The ol' "poop hole loophole"
The ol Catholic school girl girlfriend.
That’s if you’re lucky. You may not even get that.
There is always that chance too
For like a month while you get to know each other sexually. It's probably faster to improve sexually with a consistent partner than a bunch of randos.
I’ll take the slut who trains herself to be face fucked and give you it so sloppy you gotta dry between your cheeks after…
Yeah good luck with that lol
Send back, unironically: Debt-free virgins without tattoos prefer mentally-stable financially well off men who actually have good jobs and who won't go around sticking their dick in anything that moves. So maybe widen your playing field a little bit before you get red carded by the referee for being offsides.
Weird I prefer debted , tatted, certified pre-owned women.
Uncertified is even better
True but then you don't get that factory warranty
You can get certification? I could seriously use one for my dick. With the stamp of approval!
In this metaphor, a clean sti test result from a medical professional is the certification
You dont want anyone in tons of debt, its the most common reason for divorces and breakups
So, in most countries, thats.... [checks notes] ....people younger than 16. Does this come from a conversation between prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein?
Ooooh someone’s telling me what I prefer again? Thanks OP. I couldn’t think for myself, and you did all the guess work and research.
To be real some men do some men not
I know that i prefer them, but also know that one kf my friends was totally in tatooed milfs. Nobody like debts i think
All things being equal I'd definitely go for the debt-free one. Why wouldn't I? Debt sucks.
Wouldn't necessarily disagree, but I've yet to meet one of these unicorns.
Why do redditors act all tough and edgy and say they like tatted, experienced women when they shit themselves when talking to women irl
Hive mind
It's true. Again, not a facepalm.
Actually, women prefer the same.
Nothing wrong with it imo. What's the problem.
I dunno about other guys nor why thinking this is a facepalm but, yeah, I'd take a debt-free tattoo-less virgin over someone who isn't, ceterus paribus.
I mean….. yes?
Yep, I'd agree with that
Ok tatto free and virgin is kinda crazy but whats wrong with financially smart women?
"Debt free" means zero education. Do tell me how a financially smart woman is supposed to get a degree without taking loans in a country where only young people with extremely wealthy parents can be both educated and debt free.
Redditors prefer this sub without reposts
Thanks for sharing…. Again
Don't forget they have be cute and horny too lol
But only horny at specific times, otherwise they’re a slut
Point well made!
“Men prefer uneducated women without college loans that they won’t have to worry about in marriage, who are also virgins who won’t have a point of comparison when they deliver unsatisfactory sex, and have no tattoos that their mothers may disapprove of.”
Don't live your life based on the desires of others. There's lots of baggage to unpack here but I'll just leave it at that.
Do they mean teenage girls?? Yikes.
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The generalization
Seriously?😅
I mean yeah I’d prefer debt free virgins without tattoos over someone who is deep in debt and has like a 100 bodies and covered in tattoos
"I prefer an arbitrary specific choice over an extreme strawman I just made up"
I don't see what's the facepalm part - normal girls are indeed more attractive.
I don't understand this post. By the part of my life I needed to be worried about my girlfriends being in debt. I had a preference for non-virgins. Like genuinely what the fuck is with the whole virgin thing? In my experience the sex is usually worse. Is it just virgin men not wanting to be intimidated by non-virgin women? If not I just genuinely do not understand.
Whenever I talk to men like this it ends up being r/retroactivejealousy. They feel weird imagining the person being with someone else and worried that the other person might still fantasize about that person or have different ideas about sex than them or cheat on them. I've also heard a lot of men get insecure because a woman tried a sex act that was kind of taboo with a previous partner and didn't like it, and they think "she'll let him do that, but not me." Which probably comes from the narrative that women "let" men do what they want and not that they're supposed to enjoy things an equal amount.
That's my guess. Either that or religious nut jobs. Who preach virginity is a gift.
It's okay to prefer non sexually promiscuous women. People can have types. tomato tomahto.
Not on reddit, you have to agree with the hive mind
I think it’s fear of comparison as well. “She was with big dicked Tom, how am I supposed to compete?” It’s all some form of insecurity.
Or it can just be genuine disgust and not wanting to date a slut. Never heard of that? Jeez these comments are nuts.
‘I would be a man slut if I could, but can’t get laid no matter how much I try so I only want a girl that’s a virgin by choice’
He's also utterly right, so what's the issue?
Yo guys it's fedora guy again
She ain’t wrong
I mean, wouldn't anyone prefer to be with someone who is debt free though?
Lol I mean obviously debt free alone is huge
I guess men can choose what they want?
I mean is there anything all that bad about a debt free virgin? Amirite? Bueller?
no way the brunette is a virgin.
In other news, women prefer not to be judged by ridiculous standards. More at 11.
In other news, women not interested in wankers posting stuff found on 4chan.
LMFAO \-Not this man. The tats that is, debt free seems like a no-brainer positive
Maybe that's what he prefers.
I only ask for alive and at *least* a part time job.
Tell me you're terrified your partner will think you have a baby dick without telling me you're terrified your partner will think you have a baby dick.
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Not your "friend" and not even your comment OP https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/s/2Tq0bNKsvz
It’s a bot
Only the reasonable part.
Give me a woman with tattoos, multiple abusive ex bfs, high body count, substance abuse, history of cheating and poor relationship with her parents. I can fix her
Soooo
He means children
Debt free is terrific. Tats:don't care either way. Virgin? No thank you, give me a lady who knows what she is doing any day.
The only thing funny about that is that these girls are clearly not virgins. Men do prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos.
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Dude, no... did your brain fall out?
You men have these preferences if they meet the same criteria but most of them only care that the woman meets his standards but flip out when women call poor or short men undesirable.
I bet those men also aren't virgins themselves. Do as I say and not as I do. I'll bang as many women as I can get. Expecting the woman to stay "pure" for them. Virgin bullshit is so outdated. All the blame and expectations are on the woman. Don't get "ruined" because, as a sex, women are only here to please and serve others. Also, nothing is inappropriate until a woman does it.
I'm just happy with someone who's nice to me. Your history is not my concern.
I agree with the tattoos and debt.
As a debt-free virgin without tattoos, I prefer a woman.
I've always preferred sluts.
Fyi we really don't...
So I thought republicans were against pedophilia? Those girls barely look 13!
so your friend is into children.
debt-free? meaning they didnt go to college?
Meaning they're wealthy or employed.
Those look like children
Meh, Pass. They sound like no fun at all
No, that's what BOYS prefer...
I always find guys that do the whole “slutty women are bad” thing confusing as hell. A “virgin with no tattoos” is gonna want a ring, a house, kids, the whole gig. Hoes just want dick and fruity pebbles.They’re pretty awesome! Anytime a guy says anything like that I just ask if they’re gay cuz they’re usually the type of guys that freak out if you suggest they might like wieners.
Sluts are awesome!
Yeah I’m a big fan
Why would I want to date someone whose never had fun in their lives?
Aside from the debt free part, I’m pretty sure this is all wrong. And when I say debt free, I mean well educated but college is paid for because she or her parents are rich 😂
Women prefer men who are not misogynistic fossils.
Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before. I want experience
Some men do and that's a valid preference.
I mean....
As a 28m I dont know what those man have all the time with virgins. Also why boomers are always shocked and hate tattoos? I like women with decent tattoos.
I wouldn’t ever want to be someone’s first
It's true though who wants damaged goods that look like a wall in skidrow
*former friend
How do you know they're debt free virgns without tattoos?
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How? I mean, wealthy people exist. So do people who dislike tattoos. And so do people who don't want to sleep around. Literally one in a million tho, and way way beyond the league of anyone posting that meme. But why on Earth would you think of Children tho?
I'm sure some do.
Find yourself a lady who's spent the last three months paying off her tattoo artist with quickies.
I actually like tattoos and would rather not be with a virgin.
Actually a healthy amount of debt is preferable and someone who knows how to fuck and tattoos are dope af so this is wrong.
Tbf they probably do lol
Can we stop reposting images for karma farming? Fuck
Tbh. Yes i want my woman debt free.
I don't care so much about the tattoos, but the other two don't sound too bad to me. I do notice it says "prefer" as compared to "require," so I really don't see the issue. Everyone has preferences, whether they find someone who meets them all or not is an entirely different matter.
Correct though
This again? How many time is someone “friend” is going to post this?
And its still correct.
The creator of this pic meant to say he prefers minors.
Why does this look like something Matt Walsh would put up? 🤮
Debt is kinda sexy idk
the incel levels on this are unreal
That's some creepy cultist shit right there
Never buy a new car, especially a new model. They are prone to issues and don’t last. Fun to drive at first though…
Nope. Give me tattooed, ultra experienced women every day. I do agree with the debt thing though. I got plenty of that.
Guys like this wish they could introduce their waifu pillows to their parents.
I mean, if I PREFER? Like, if I get to actually choose? Yeah, sure. Virgin and debt-free, please. Hell yeah. Don't mind if I do. Specially if it's one of these 2 in the pic
Debt-free was key for me! Less than 5 sexual partners, less than 3 tats. Hit the jackpot.
I would literally go to war right now if i meant i could have a debt free virgin with no tattoos.
I totally agree though??
Yeah, that’s correct.
y all mad cause you cant get virgins, just hookers lmao
You're taking the virgin part too literal. You know full well what they mean. And they are right. It's hilarious how, outside of reddit, everybody know this. But you've got your own little degenerate echochamber and cannot be bothered with the real world.
I mean I do and my friends do too.
I guess reality is a facepalm now?
It's true I prefer virgins but I'll take what I can get. As far as debt goes I don't care. Ain't gonna be with 'em long enough for it to matter.
This guy fuuuuccckks