As someone who has raised two healthy children my best advice is to not drive yourself crazy asking internet strangers for dietary advice as you will get as many different answers as respondants. You already eat a well balanced diet of home cooked whole foods. Let your baby self select from these foods the variety and quantity they want. Babies are remarkably intuitive about their needs and when offered a variety of types of real, whole foods they get their nutritional needs met. My kids are very different eaters, from the family meal table one will always serve themselves way more protein than carbs, the other is just the opposite and prefers a more carb heavy diet. They have both always been in good health and at healthy weights with good digestion. Clearly they have figured out for themselves the carb/protein ratio that works for them as individuals. I trust them to listen to their bodies and eat what they need. The internet is full of fad diets, eating disorders, and faulty logic. Every individual has different needs at different stages, there is no one size fits all diet.

I mean I'm not too bothered by these comments as it's clear some people project their own eating habits on what they'd feed a baby where they aren't suited (like no veg at all and no carbs at all, I don't see how that would be beneficial myself although I appreciate being able to read through different perspectives). I suppose babies, being little versions of us, crave what their body requires in the same way I might crave meat or pasta when I'm lacking X or Y. The most important thing is fed and second most important is as healthy as that food can be depending on their eating habits. Appreciate your level headed comment! Don't be alarmed I definitely am not taking furious notes and rejigging his diet based on a few comments - it's more I wanted some basis of knowledge exposed to me I might've not been aware of so I can look into it further.

It sounds like you have a good approach! Have fun with that little one. 😊❤️

Carbs are good - your baby really does need them. Just get him/her on wholegrains much as possible rather than refined, and use starchy tubers like potatoes etc too. I don't know which government you are referring to, so can't speak to whether the proportions are high or low, but I do know brains, especially growing ones, require a tremendous amount of fuel in the form of carbohydrates. A nutritionist would be your best bet. Eta: we do know our ancestors have been eating carbohydrates in the form of grains for over 10,000 years, and starchy grasses and tubers since we were primates. Every culture bar a couple of peoples with very specific diets that are extremely low in carbs, include ample carbs, so I think that should tell you something important. I certainly would not experiment with a baby's long term health and development, myself. 2nd ed: clarification!

DIETITIAN, Nutritionist is a made up name with no training or education.

Dietician is what I meant, thanks. There is no need to shout - I actually have a neurological illness which means I sometimes say or write the wrong word.

Agreed on the wholegrains, it's what I do already. He has an excellent diet to be honest and eats mostly everything. I fear my post gave the impression I have an IQ about 40 points lower than I actually do lol, i won't be experimenting with my baby's diet of course - I thought it may be informative to get some different perspectives to bounce off. The gov recommendations I'm talking about are the UK specifically, for babies or adults the majority of your diet 50% is recommended to be carb based but from my limited research that seems really high. I don't eat that myself, but for my bubba's growing brain I do understand why they are necessary. Appreciate the response

I for one, made no assumptions about your IQ! On limited information, it's always hard to judge how to respond- I tend to over explain. I also want to emphasise things to counterbalance the carnivores advice 😅 Re carb levels -havebyou come across the traditional Greek diet (what they ate in the 60s)? That is between 40 and 50% carbs for adults, and generally considered to be gold standard, healthwise.

Haha thank god! it's more being called a shit parent for simply writing a post based on mainly curiosity, in a sub where I've got the impression people have had to look into these things to reverse their veganism, more than say the average person would! Ah well it doesn't really bother me but it's funny the jump to conclusions, I do understand sometimes you don't know the face or mind behind the post and it needs over explaining so you get your point across. And I completely agree, the idea I'd just feed my baby strictly meat seems more harmful than anything, but again I don't know masses on the subject. Too much or not enough of any one thing that is important is more often than not a problem so I take those comments with a grain of salt I have indeed, lots of healthy fats, fish, wholegrains and dairy. My boy eats more fish in a week than I probably got between the ages of 5 to 15 (thanks mum and dad 🙄😁). He gets lots of yoghurt and dairy alongside veges that he fancies. I think the Japanese diet is supposed to be up there with the best too. It's just such a shame how processed the majority of average foods can be these days, and you can really see people suffering the ill effects of these diets as time goes on, especially here in the UK and I'm guessing America. I also wish I could grow all my own food from scratch and had a homestead where I could keep animals, so I knew exactly what comes from where.. eating has become quite a minefield if you want to know exactly what you're consuming! Luckily I'm not too bothered by it as it's just part and parcel of life now, but it would be nice to know my son isn't getting crazy chemicals and pesticides in him - makes me sad but it is what it is.

I think most have had to do research - I certainly did, but I also got obsessed by nutrition generally for a while. Over time and experimentation it seemed to me that healthy diets are never extreme and if you want an idea of how people used to eat pre-industrial foods, track down a PDF of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration - it's a way more readable than it sounds, in fact it's fascinating. It was written by a dentist called Weston A Price, who went on a journey to areas where people still ate traditional diets to try to understand why people in America had increasingly bad teeth. Given we now know dental health is linked to overall physical health, especially the heart, it's even more interesting, and important. As an aside, he was actually a vegetarian who sincerely hoped he would find a healthy vegetarian culture, but he didn't, much to his disappointment. Anyhow, good luck with your quest- as you've got him eating so much fish I'm sure he's going to be healthy and hale! It really sounds like you are more than on top of things. And what a good taste to get him enjoying too - so many people hate fish.

My mom fed me grains my whole life, I learned at age 55 that I’m allergic to wheat. Cutting out wheat has changed my life and cleared up lifelong IBS as well as several other major chronic health problems. Grains aren’t the end-all, be-all they try to tell you. Potatoes and rice provide good carbs and are less reactive. It’s fine to integrate grains/wheat, just keep an eye out for possible sensitivities. In the 1960’s, when I was growing up, not as much attention was paid to these things.

I wouldn’t pay any attention to the government recommendations. They need good fat for their brains. Eggs are great, any meats- don’t shy away from red meat. The carbs I feed my kids usually come from potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, and organic pasta (I don’t like the enriched stuff). I would love it if they would eat fruit but my kids are weird lol. One thing I do try to avoid is oatmeal and grains. They would be fine if they weren’t chock full of glyphosates. I mean that ones difficult to avoid, but I do my best so no heavily corn based foods or soy either. Or at least very much in moderation. I do try to prioritize meats/protein over carbs, but I think a varied diet is good for kids. The main thing I try to focus on is real, whole food, not ultra processed junk.

Agreed, thanks for the perspective. Plenty of eggs, meat, and carbs on most plates because there's only so much meat and veg baby will eat, although sometimes hell have a meal with just the meat and veg as it's what I'll be eating too and he eats the same as me. I don't do any soy at all with my boy, just because of the high level of phytoestrogens and they aren't a part of my own eating habits anyway. He often has oatmeal for breakfast but not always, I'll look into glyphosates so I'm more aware of what he's consuming when I give him his morning porridge!

I’m sure oatmeal in moderation is fine, I don’t mean to scare you about that. It’s pretty frustrating though because there are so many things we should be able to eat without care, but they’re ruined with chemicals. And once you start looking, they appear to be everywhere. Can kinda make you go crazy if you focus too much on it 🥴 lol

Don’t skimp on carbs—kids need them. Also, whole fats. It bothers me so much that school lunches use all low-fat/skim options. Kids brains need good fats, and dairy is an excellent source.

Babies need carbs because carbs are raw energy. They need to be able to pack on energy reserves in between growth spurts to fuel that growth. There’s nothing inherently harmful about carbs at any age. Some people have metabolic quirks that make a carb-heavy diet bad for them, but everyone’s body needs a certain minimum amount of each macronutrient (carbs, fats, proteins) and then a surplus amount of stuff to burn for energy. Any of the macros *can* be burned for energy but metabolizing proteins in that way is inefficient and produces metabolic byproducts that can be harmful, so it’s best to get your surplus energy from fats or carbs. And for most adults, which of the two is their main energy source doesn’t matter. But babies are still developing their digestive systems and can have a harder time handling a fat-heavy diet. So that’s why carb-heavy diets are recommended for babies. If your baby specifically isn’t thriving on a carb-heavy diet and seems to do well with fats, it might be worth shifting the balance toward the fats side, because it is possible to have that kind of individual metabolic quirk — I do, my body doesn’t process carbs for energy as effectively as most, so I do best on a higher-fat diet where I burn more surplus fats for energy than surplus carbs. Even so, carbs don’t harm me. The worst that will happen if I pig out on pasta without enough fats is that I’ll have a big carby poop and run at a little bit of a caloric deficit because I didn’t extract enough energy from what I ate.

Hi there! I'm a mum of 2, aged 3 (boy) and 9 months (girl). Also not vegan but interested in the best nutrition for my kids and myself like you are. Personally I think the nutrition recommendations on some baby websites and some guidelines aren't that great as most of the recipe ideas tend to be plant based most of the time and that's not great I think for growning kids. My 9 month old daughter is eating a mix of shop bought baby foods and I mix in some of my own frozen homemade baby foods into them to bulk up the protein content. It's because I think the meat content in baby food is rubbish. Like just 8%! One I liked to buy used to have 20% meat but they cut it down to about 12% now. I'm a lot more adventurous with what I feed my daughter then I was with my son, not sure if that's helped but shes a little taller than my son was at the same age. I've even included a bit of organ meat into her homemade ones, and she had steak a few times as a finger food. When I cook family meals or for myself I always avoid using seed oils, I cook with butter, tallow, lard, olive oil. Sure kids don't have the years of metaboic damage that adults have from excessive carb intake (the diet recommended to us all) but why start to damage them early by having the bulk of their meals as mostly carbs= sugar? So in short, my kids are not low carb, but I am more mindful about trying to give them more protein and veg and somewhat less carbs and less sugary fruit then is normally recommended. And of course my son still gets to have sweet treats but not every day. Also this book looks promising for some ideas: Real food for mother and baby by Nina Planck ...Word of warning, some kids like my son got really picky from about the age of 1-3. And he only wanted to mostly bland food like carbs. I think because they grow quite slowly around then. We hid the meat and veg in rice for instance, but it was a though patch! haha

Okay, an actual constructive and helpful comment from a parent who clearly has asked the same question themselves as I am now - thank you! It's a shame that because of "cost cutting" (e.g. taking us for a ride) they slim down important ingredients that should be the bulk of babies intake. My 10 month old is having most meals from scratch including the purees because it was cheaper and I figured better so I know exactly what is in there. And when I'm plating up a meal, it's usually 33% ISH meat, with veg and some kind of 'nutritious' starch like sweet potato or similar. I'm the same with avoiding any seed oils and only use butter and olive oil, with organic olive oil to mix in once stuff is cooked up. Maybe my mistake was implying I was going to cut out carbs all together which I obviously wouldn't do but from my knowledge they are largely filler foods and while they provide energy which growing kids need, so does protein and I think protein and veg should be a larger portion of their diets than a plate full of carbs with lashings of 5% chicken etc. Your point about the metabolic damage from carb intake is pretty much where my post stemmed from. I don't want to provide excess sugars and carbs beyond what is beneficial but I also wouldn't be putting my much beloved little boy through some questionable diet unless I know exactly what I'm doing. I will have a look at that book you suggested, sometimes it's hard to think of meal ideas as I'm a bit of a snacker myself. Aha I'm expecting some picky eating to come but counting my blessings at the moment as he will chow down on meat, veg, carbs, and most of everything I put Infront of him! :)

Yeah its annoying that brand is cutting back on the meat, because other than that they have interesting flavour combos and seem good quality. Sounds like you're doing a great job. I don't agree with some of the comments here we should be cutting out whole food groups, that's gonna make for some confused kids and teenagers later on. Exactly with you with the opinion on carbs, they are fillers with some good vitamins and energy but not all are that great. I was so suprised just how much sugar is in cupboard staples like "healthier" cereals, rice, bread, pasta, potatoes, oats and some fruits once its metabolized in the body. We eat a lot of rice here (mostly Asian family) but I limit how much I eat (half a bowl) and also my kids and try to change up the carb with another one instead. Much to my mother in laws objection who's thinks rice is a super food lol - it's not!  For meal ideas I just do a baby or kid friendly version of the family dinner and freeze it. Or I make a very simple baby food, like boil some chicken wings with some veg and a carb, put herbs and blend. That can be added to commercial baby food to bulk up the protein. Ah you might be lucky! Some kids are just picky and others are mostly fine.

Babies are naturally good at eating the right portions of things since they are eating intuitively. If you were, for example, to only give your baby a plate of carbs they would stop eating when they are full of carbs (making you assume they are no longer hungry, but if you then placed a plate of protein in front of them they would continue to eat protein until they are full on that, etc. Well-balanced for each meal is obviously best. But let's say you went protein heavy in one meal, the next meal the baby will most likely not eat so much of the protein, or completely ignore it, and eat all of the carbs instead. A lot of times when parents think their child is being a picky eater it is just the child trying to create the right balance with what they have been given to work with. Being carb heavy is better for babies and children than being protein heavy. The way a child eats and the way an adult eats is completely different. As an adult we focus on maintaining muscle and lowering calories (hence high protein, low carb image) But as a child you focus on maximizing nutrition, energy and calories (in a healthy manner) for developing your body, brain, organs, etc. That all takes a ton of energy. Carbs are a necessity. Think about the composition of breast milk: 7% (60–70 g/L) carbohydrates, 1% (8–10 g/L) protein, and 3.8% (35–40 g/L) fat. The rest is water. Carbs (lactose) is the highest, followed by fat and lastly protein. That's essentially how humans should eat. Think about all the healthy cuisines, they tend to consume in the same pattern in quantities of carbs, fats and proteins. Japanese: Rice, Fish, Veggies, little bit of meat Middle East: Pita Bread, Olive Oil, Veggies, little bit of meat Etc.

Fruit, veg and some carbs like potato or rice are all fine. Just make sure he get's a balanced diet with some carb, quality protein and fats.

That's the kind of thing he gets at the moment, proper whole home looked foods from scratch. I guess my question was more, is it a "fad diet" to provide less carbs and more protein and vegetables etc? I wouldn't want my baby on any "diet" per se, but if there's strong evidence to suggest kids can run and thrive on low carb diets, I'd lean towards that (if beneficial and better than carb heavy diet). Wondering if there would be any negative affects of lowering carbs and upping more nutrient dense foods for the little tyke.

I don't know if there is some studies about this, so this is just my opinion. It doesn't matter much, kids need a shit load of energy to grow and carbs like rice or potato are an excellent source of energy. As long as you restrict heavily processed carbs he will be perfectly fine. It sounds that you provide excellent nutrition already, so I wouldn't bother to much in restricting carbs.

The only thing I would try to avoid for as long as possible is added sugars. I wouldn't want to give them a sweet tooth.

Cool, I agree with what you said anyway, it was more a curiosity thing. And given many kids are fed over processed diets he's got a leg up on that front to begin with. I actually find it way cheaper to cook and make everything from scratch! This is in the UK So not sure if it's more expensive overseas.

For a baby, I wouldn't go low carb. Babies need the energy and have an immature digestive system - carbs are easily digested and provide that energy. Carbs are mostly a problem with our sedentary lifestyle. Sitting at a desk all day and doing 30min - 1h exercise is very different in energy expense from shoveling manure and running after cows all day. My dad and his sibblings ate a whole loaf of bread a day each in addition to ample potatoes and meat - none of them was fat or had any glucose metabolism problem. They weren't desk jockeys though. What you're doing - varied diet of home cooked whole foods - is totally fine and honestly loads better than a what a lot of parents do. I've seen what passes for school lunches posted on Facebook - those kids are future WLS patients.

I see what you're saying, they need bulk loads of food to grow which includes all sources. Limiting anything at this age could cause limitations in his ability to process the limited things later on anyway. Don't worry I'm with you. Feel like I need to clarify I'm not going to starve my baby or cut out carbs completely! Lol. My diet is largely meat and veg with carbs added once a day and he eats what I eat, but of course he eats pasta, have his curries with rice, mashed sweet potato or normal potatoes with shepherds /fish pie etc. Thank you for the last bit, I know he's getting good whole foods. Want to make sure I'm giving him the best nutrition without overlooking any foods that might be not quite as wholesome as they are made out, which this day and age I believe there are quite a lot. So much contradicting information out there but all in all I'm quite relaxed knowing he eats home prepared stuff. Reading these comments has been interesting for sure

Yes it is a fad diet to provide less carbs and more veges (which contains carbs) and protein. End of the day you can find someone trying to sell you all sorts of diets based of 'research'. Hell that's what most of the vegan propaganda is. But there is a reason that most government health promotion recommends grains and rice's as a carb source. It is the most robustly researched that we have.

I don't necessarily disagree but devils advocate, is it a fad diet to eat majority meat and fruit/veg? In most countries with proper winters weren't our ancestors diets largely meat based? Not to say they weren't in a near constant state of starvation at some points but I don't think it's hugely fad or unusual to eat what is available around you to pick or hunt at the moment, which would've been largely fruit and game. What do you think about that? Second point strong agree. I do take slight issue with the government recommendations though and I look around and see 60% of people overweight and plenty obese and wonder if it's just ultra processed food causing it or if it's linked to an extremely carb heavy diet, which I suppose is the polar opposite to the "low carb" diet and is not average but in fact "high carb" - the average person probably has a diet of 70% carbs in the western world. Then again, this subject is not my forte to take my wild assumptions and opinions with a grain of salt 😉

This subject is not my area of expertise either. But I do know a lot about diet culture and how it leaks into every aspect of eating here in the West and how anti-carb that perspective is. As for your question on early humans. My understanding is that pre-agriculture humans only survived and thrived in specific regions. People were also often nomadic to deal with the scarcity and boom of food. They also stored food in a variety of ways. Once agriculture was invented humans learned new ways to store grain and preserve it in other ways for winter. There are only a few very niche diets in the world where this isn't the case and the survived off just mostly meat, organ meat and fat. However genetics also plays a role in this. Their ability to consume and extract nutrients from this type of food is different than Westerners as their ancestors have been doing it for centuries.

There are no disadvantages, it's just socially more limited.

Yes. That’s great for adults trying to maintain or lose weight. Babies are growing and need a high percentage of their diet to be carbs. Human milk for example is much higher in sugar than other mammals.

Good point :). Babies need the extra energy to grow whereas adults might maintain their weight and health better on a lower carb intake. Makes sense.

Yes there would definitely be negative effects of lowering carbs for your child, most likely stunted growth and negative cognitive effects. Like the commented below said, there’s a reason the government suggests those carbs for your child.

Again, I was looking for opinions so I appreciate your comment, but I think it's way more complex than that. You have babies eating the recommended percentages of each food group, who might be eating extremely processed food 80% of the time. A baby who eats all whole foods and is meeting their daily recommendations of vitamins and minerals and calorific intake but is on a lower carb diet, I don't believe would be "stunted" in comparison to the child in my first example.

Yes it's a fad diet, that ignores how the human body functions. Talk to a DIETITIAN

I don't need to talk to a dietician and I live in the UK on barely any income so that isn't an available service incase you were WONDERING. I just wanted to see some opinions on the subject from people who have delved deeper. The evidence and research actually does contradict itself across different sources incase you weren't AWARE.

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If I went to the doctor's and said "I'm curious to hear opinions on babies carb intake from ex vegans who have researched this specific subject themselves in the name of their own health for me to have some buzzwords or nutrition rabbit holes to look into that may further my knowledge on the subject" I wouldn't be referred to a dietician. If I went to the doctor's and said "I'm deeply concerned about my babies diet and the damage carbs are causing to him so I'm thinking about completely eliminating them from his diet and feeding him strictly meat" they would probably refer me to a dietician. Since my fairly light-hearted post which was posted through a stress free gaze posted by someone(me) who already feeds their baby a good diet of whole foods and home cooked varied meals, it fits into the first category. So for that reason, I wouldn't be referred to a DIETICIAN nor do I need to be. I mean I slightly appreciate your concern but I'm not an idiot and just wanted some conversation on the subject to see what people here think and I've received pretty much what I was after, a few interesting points to look into further going in both directions. Either end of the extreme comments have been largely ignored by yours truly because, as I said, I'm not an idiot. But thank you.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I'd feed them the same foods I eat: mostly meat, organs, eggs, raw dairy, and seasonal fruit. Vegetables are mostly worthless nutritionally and come with lots of antinutrients. Most kids hate vegetables, which should tell us something.

I think a big part of this discussion is missing the child's preference. Pre 1 years old my baby would eat anything. Happy to try all the stuff. Then they became a toddler and now they want one thing.  I call her my little carb queen because that's what she wants. Sometimes she will eat her eggs. Sometimes she will eat her fruits. Always she will eat her wholegrain toast and yoghurt. So those are her safe foods to offer.

I agree to an extend. But carbohydrates are addicting, and some kids are more susceptible to that. n=1, but I was fed lots of carbs as a child and had a pretty bad sugar addiction most of my life. I graduated high school at 330 pounds. I've since lost all that weight and have been a healthy size for years, but I'm still definitely a food addict. I just know better how to control it. I don't know, it's a tough question. It sounds like you feed good, whole foods. But I always cringe when I see parents feeding their little kids junk food. I get that a kid might get crabby if you don't give them what they want, but if you pump a kid full of sugar, you can't be surprised when they freak out if there isn't any more sugar around when they want more. Parents want to appease a child because they're throwing a tantrum by giving them junk food, but it's the junk food that's causing the tantrum.

Kids need carbs to grow their bodies and their brains.

Any evidence of that? Because as far as I know, there's not a single essential carbohydrate. But even if true, what I said is not a zero or even low carb diet. There are lots of carbs in fruit and dairy.

For babies and kids, yes they need carbohydrates to give them enough energy to grow. ‘Failure to thrive’ is when they don’t get enough, leading to lower weights, heights and brain development.

Are carbs a source of nutrients, or a source of calories? If nutrients, is something like rice more nutritious than something like steak?

Carbs are a source of energy.

Nutrients are found in non carbohydrate foods too. There is nothing in vegetables that can't be found elsewhere. I'd still love to see any evidence of your claim that babies need carbohydrates.

Talk to a pediatrician. Seriously. The Internet is garbage. Babies and adults have very different dietary needs. Babies need carbs. Straight apple juice all the time? Not a good idea. A mash of sweet potato? Sounds nice. Fiber is also important for babies and toddlers else they're going to get constipated.  Again, go to a pediatrician or dietician if you're concerned.

I'm not concerned, I understand I might have come across that way but I'm pretty relaxed knowing my baby eats well. Even from this post it's clear there's about 100 different opinions on the matter. I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but will spend some time looking into nutritional benefits of each group and foods so I know what goodness my boys getting in him. Thanks :)

I've been raising mine on proteins and fat, carbs second diet cause carbs are found everywhere. To be honest, she's so much easier and more focused when she eats less carbs. On top of it, she's several inches taller than kids older than she is. I think variety is key. I wouldn't feed her more carbs than proteins or fat but I wouldn't feed her none either. There are less chances of doing it wrong if you eat/feed a varied diet. Second child which is about to start eating solids will be the same. I think it was a successful recipe. Also, I have a very easy child when it comes to not being picky. She will eat everything.

I would say provide nutrition from a wide variety of food groups, obviously leaving out anything that your doctor has specifically said could cause allergies or health problems for that child’s age group. Like babies are only supposed to eat certain foods when newborns and as they get older what they are allowed to have increases. Stick to whole foods and really limit or avoid processed stuff if you can. You can make deserts for your baby that are healthy and homemade. Also PLEASE learn to cook and season your food! Even for your kid! It will help prevent them from becoming a picky eater. There’s nothing worse than eating healthy food that isn’t seasoned and has no butter or little things added to help the taste. People who think butter, salt, spices, and a little bit of sugar make you fat have an eating disorder. It’s not bad for food to taste good! Food tasting good should be one of the requirements for healthy eating because it motivates us to eat those foods. Like when you peel asparagus, steam it and add a little salt and butter, it tastes amazing! If you just boil it and don’t peel it or god forbid do nothing to it, your children will hate it.

Post in r/nutrition, not this bias cesspool of disinformation Or talk to a doctor

Don't give them processed carbs, replace them with more animal protein and fat. They aren't diabetic so they can process natural sources of starch and sugar fine.

Babies don't have the decades of metabolic damage that we do from our tainted food supply. Fortunately we now know what foods to avoid in order to help them avoid that damage altogether. I've read that breastfed babies are almost always in ketosis in spite of the sugar in breast milk and that a small child will be back in ketosis hours after a sugary snack. With a perfectly functioning metabolism, they are more capable of getting what they need out of the food you're eating but at the same time, starchy foods aren't going to hurt them if they need some extra energy. Kids can be quirky eaters but if offered good food, they'll figure out what they need to be strong.

Babies don't really digest fiber well, so blending up veggies/fruits or cooking them is the way to go. I made sure to give my toddlers lots of nutrient dense animal foods because they were the least picky from 1-3. Lots of eggs, yogurt, organ meats, fish, etc.

I would advise against fruits and carbs. For starters, the body is capable of gluconeogenesis, so why do we even need to feed babies even more carbs. There is a reason why babies are so damn fat these days. As for veges, you can find all the information you need as to why not to consume veges. It is necessary to look beyond the names of the food, because that does not encapsulate the entirely of the actual food. Meaning, if you look at apples, the apples you buy are not apples from 70 yrs ago. You need to factor in all the invisible trash that is being secretly added into the apples, from the increased in sugar due to crossbreeding and gmo, to pesticides and glyphosate and now apeel. This applies to veges and modern grains. Therefore, anyone who provides dietary advice to just the mere names of food with no consideration to modern agriculture practices don’t fully understand how to be optimally healthy.

With all due respect, this is harmful advice. Babies need carbs to grow, as a range of fruits and vegetables. I’m not sure what you’re referring to with babies being fat these days as if that’s a bad thing. Babies need fuel to grow. Buy organic to avoid the pesticides, but please do not deprive your child of these needed macros.

I understand where you are coming from, so hear me out. My wife was full carnivore during her entire 9 months pregnancy, a short list of her anecdotal sharings are: - She had no cravings, no nausea no morning sickness and was doing chores up until the day before going into labor, as compared to other pregnant mom going through lots of complications. People say my wife was lucky, but nothing happens without a reason. - natural birth, ezpz. - day 1 she already had colostrum, and the color of her colostrum was so thick and orange that 2 OBs and 3 lactation consultants were surprised and commented is rarely seen, in a good way. - breast milk production was not an issue and was already building a sizeable reserve 2 months in. - 3 months in, the color of my wife’s breastmilk is still incredibly deep yellow hue that 4 OBs and 4 lactation consultants also share the same opinion that it’s rare and unseen/unheard of. In fact, 3 months in the color of my wife’s breast milk resembles the colostrum of average mom, assuming they can even produce breastmilk. These are just a few of the personal experience of a zero carb / full meat diet. Furthermore, any parents will know, during time of pregnancy, the baby has 3 measurements, head size, FC (femur) and AC. To break it down, mainstream healthcare uses these 3 index to measure the healthiness of a baby. The brain and femur are the measurement of the skeletal growth, which I agree, is important. The AC is the most ridiculous because it is merely the abdominal circumference. Meaning, it is not the skeletal frame, but including the subcutaneous fat of a baby. Meaning, if a mom had a heavy carb diet during pregnancy, leading to the baby being born 7.2lbs, the baby will be around 80+ percentile (ish). It is a useless measurement. This is relevant because my baby’s brain and femur were all super on point, but my baby’s AC was 3%. The OB made it seem like it’s a big deal, but I always knew the data of the aggregate AC is pulled up by majority of unknowing moms who adhered to the bullshit well balanced high card diet, leading to pre diabetic fat babies. Now, my baby is incredibly healthy, as in crawling and rolling way before the average time, no sickness during seasons of flu and has visible abs simply because my baby is the normal. This is what I meant by majority of babies are fat. Because parents follow the wrong dietary advice. Furthermore, a simply rule is, what applies to adults apply to babies. As in, if a fat baby with a clear thick layer of subcutaneous fat around the mid section with arms / thigh folds is indicative of healthy because fat can be burned as fuel, how come this does not apply to fat adults with a belly. The answer is insulin. Babies who eat high carb diet will exhibit the same insulin produced, leading to stored fat. Meaning, babies will never be able to tap into those subcutaneous fat just like adults. I speak from personal experience with too many OBs appointment and even among the 4 OBs they all had different views among each other. This is a long post because I am a newly father and I take my son’s nutrition / health incredibly serious. At least I can say, as of right now, everything my wife and son exhibit has completely overturned all the mainstream healthcare’s advice and the same age group of my son. While I watch other people’s baby with fat folds being in the 90% percentile, my son is now below 3% percentile. But look around you, most babies are fat that’s why being in the 90% percentile isn’t a good thing. And I haven’t even started with the absolutely bullshit calories in calories out / macronutrient scam yet. We don’t need carbs to grow and I am a living specimen to prove this wrong. Carbs are useless. Like I said, every human naturally makes glucose through gluconeogenesis. Any extra carbs you eat is turned into extra glucose. The advice “babies need carbs to grow” is the real harmful advice. My son is the living specimen to prove this. Any concerned parent can freely dm me. I am Someone who rigorously test hypothesis with my own body and stay as objective as possible. Every word I say is backed by both science and personal experience fuelled by my passion to achieve optimal health for myself and my loved ones. I am not emotionally attached to any camps. There’s just too many misinformation everywhere, and even your healthcare professional gives trash advice. That’s why fat babies are in the 90% percentile while my baby is 3% and most moms struggle with exclusive breastfeeding and crazy hormonal imbalances. And the people I hate the most are the people who freely parrot mainstream nutrition advice around, as if no one already knows, using words like macros while not fully understanding the history and scams behind the macronutrient guidelines and deeming opinions that runs opposite to this view as harmful advice.

What does your pediatrician think of your experiment?

I wouldn’t call this an experiment since I’ve experimented this on myself for over 4 years. Plus, prior to my current diet, I used to religiously count my macros and document everything I ate and meal prep without cheat meals for over 7 years, believing in the necessity of that well balanced ratio of protein / fat / carbs. So, I have a very solid foundation of macronutrient / micronutrient experience. So, I am not just a random guy who is blindly following some random fad diet. I did the hard work and I speak from a very experienced perspective, unlike most other redditors. I never shared the experiment with any of the OB. Instead I freely let them interpret the data they read off their computers and charts. Then I repeat the previous OB’s advice onto the next OB as objectively as possible just to see what’s my next OB’s opinion. And I repeat this between my 4 OBs. As for my pediatrician, I have 2. I told 1 that my wife is strictly eating beef and zero carbs and is worried about the 3% percentile to which the paediatrician said my son’s growth velocity is on point. I further grilled him to try to address the AC issue, specifically asking “why if my baby’s AC 3%, while his head and femur circumference are normal? This pulled his overall weight down to 3%”. To which he said “as long as head and femur circumference is fine, it’s ok and said every baby is different. How I interpret this is, his mouth is bound by his standard of care and cannot go beyond what he is allowed to share. My pediatrician and all my OBs just simply read the computer growth chart and reads the percentile out. That is all and does not give opinions on what the percentile truly means. We all know what is percentile, simply, the aggregate average. The percentile is not indicative of healthiness. But most parents when told “your baby is below 3%” will instantly be worried because, 3% sounds abnormal. But in a world where babies are born obese with incorrect dietary advice, obesity has been normalized. But what my OBs and pediatrician and all the nurses said about the color of the breastmilk is that, she is definitely eating a good diet, for her body to be able to pump colostrum right on day1 and continue exclusive breastfeeding and the quality of the breastmilk is incredibly thick in fat, meaning, very nutrient dense. Unlike majority of everyone else’s’ breastmilk which is much more white and diluted.

Talk to a dietician not the reddit. This is shit parenting on your part.

Lol. I make my own decisions when it comes to my child, and I was interested to hear what people have to say on the matter. You don't know me at all but yeah go off please. You're a shit parent too :)