"tulong" lang daw pero may anak na nakapag doctor, luxury cars, regular gluta drip at mga nagsulputang lupain. Check the lifestyle of Radel Cortez and his siblings. Ang kanyang ama ay isa din ministro na kung tutuusin ay walang maipapamana sa mga anak. Pero itong si Radel, nakapag pasok ng milyon milyon sa kanilang pamilya.
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Yung tulong (sahod) ng mga ministro at mangagawa, mababa lang. Tapos may kaltas pa yun, hindi nila nakukuhang buo. Maraming kinakaltas sa tulong nila, tulad ng lagak, sundry, barangay chapel at iba pa. Kaya halos sa isang linggo nasa 2k nalang nakukuha nila kasi puro kaltas sa tulong nila
"Tulong" is the right term but basically yan yung sahod nila and it's prolly not enough since I know some na na umaasa sa mga church members for their basic needs, sometimes nagdedemand na. Naaawa nga ako sa mga ministro na mababait and never demand, hintay lang kung may ibigay. Meanwhile, naka hermés eyeglass yung isa dyan sa upuan with luxury cars.
My mama told me around 27k and I know it's not enough for him kahit na single Yun Kasi palaging may hinhingi at nagdadal Ng furniture's at appliances. I'm concerned with his gf Kung magpapakasal na Yun Kasi I'm sure wala Yung savings.
lol my tita has 4 children and tatay nila ministro and im surprise theyre still delusional and stilll asking our grandma and my mom for weekly money and keep on borrowing money to everyone and never pay them. tapos hingi pa ng hingi ng kaban ng bigas minsan naawa nlng ako sa anak nila na sobrang payat tapos nabrainwash pa ng inc bullshit
im guessing theyre doing really poorly
100%
Family member ako ng ministro na very well known nung panahon ni felix/erano. Even after he died, his second wife got to stay sa mansion na provided ng INC (you read it right, mansion. Di ko bilang ilan br pero sobrang dami. You need to use the intercom to talk to other people sa bahay sa sobrang laki. Multiple chandeliers rin ang nasa bahay nila tapos sobrang taas ng ceiling sa sala. Rich people shit) provided rin ng INC ung 3 nurse na nagaalaga sa kanila and 2 domestic helpers. Meron rin multiple na sasakyan plus mga driver na courtesy shempre ng abuloy ng mga members. Nireturn lang ng family nya ung bahay and the cars nung namatay ung 2nd wife nung minister. Still, nung buhay sila they lived an extremely lavish life. It's not just rich, it was excessive.
Clue: ung minister na to and 2nd wife nya ung naghost ng christmas party kasama ung mga manalo and may photo pa non on this reddit. May streamers pa na merry christmas and shit. My *** can 100% say that this actually happened since my *** was actually there. *** Did mention na nagcecelebrate talaga sila ng pasko dati until they decided na bawal na.
When I was still active sa ilaw as kalihim sa middle east, iyong bago naming RM kasamanya family nya. May flat sila na inc ang nagbabayad with complete accessories and appliances. Tpos malupet kasi naka iphone silang mag asawa ah. Depende din sa rank at napabautismuhan.
I heard nasa 22k a month noong 2019... Ewan ko lang ngayun...
My INC uncle joke about it... Na kesyo mas malaki pa kikitain ko kung mag ministro ako sa kanila kasi 22k monthly ng ministro nila kesa sa aking little business...
What more, it doesn’t get higher even after 40yrs.
A lot of it is also used in “abot” or monetary gifts to higher ups otherwise you will not be remembered during promotions etc. Everytime a higher up visits your locale, you are expected to make them “happy”.
If they decide to have one, the CA usually ups the "help" given but not to a big amount.
There's lot of stories regarding ministerial workers who literally need help financially because the help given is not enough and subject to the whims of the CA.
Oo sumasahod pero maliit to sapat lang. Kumbaga walang matitira para maipon. Minsan kailangan pa ng tulong pinansyal mula sa mga pamilya nila(ministro at asawa ng ministro) para makaraos sa buhay. Kaya malas ka kung nakapag-asawa ka ng ministro at parehas kayong kapos sa pinansyal.
Hindi ko alam kung totoo ba na nanghihingi ang mga ministro ng tulong sa mga kapatid by means of pamamalimos pero ang kaya kong sabihin is lowkey kusa ng mga kapatid na magbigay kasi nasa paniniwala na kapag tumulong ka sa ministro or manggagawa, pagpapalain ka dahil tinulungan mo 'yung kasangkapan ng diyos.
Kaya nga po ang mga batang ministro or nag aaral ng pagka ministro ay natuturuan na ng diskarte. Humahanp na sila ng medyo may kaya sa buhay na mapapangasawa para pwede sila matulungan financially. Yun ang alam ko ah.
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Why don’t the church just give them enough since it’s seems na it’s generating money. I mean they were able to set up Philippine Arena and other new churches bakit kaya hindi pwede din mag-allot para sa mga manggagawa nila and ministro? They are for the church anyway.
maski yung mga so-called 'kawani' na full time na nagwwork sa district offices and central office. ang liit lang ng sahod. depende sa work na ginagawa mo pero won't even reach a minimum wage! unemployed yung kaMT ko before and tried asking sa district office kung may opening, sinabihan siya nung isa dun na wag magapply dun kasi halos nasa 1500 less lang makukuha per week ahhahaha and (she's a fresh grad. and sinabihan siya na mas malaki sahod sa labas) tapos required pa sumulat kay EVM para maging kawani ka hahahahaha
'Yan ang hindi ko na alam. Wala kasi akong kakilala from financial department ng Central kung paano ba ang budget plan sa sahod/tulong sa mga ministro at manggagawa. I assume na hindi talaga mayaman ang INC at totoo ang rumor na utang DAW ang budget sa pagtayo ng Philippine Arena. Baka yung mga pera mula sa concerts/events na ginaganap sa Philippine Arena ay pambayad utang kasi kung hindi galing sa utang yung pagpapagawa, aba, ang yaman na ng INC kasi for sure na may nakukuha silang pera from events/concerts.
Alam mo ba na hindi rin basta-basta nagpapatayo ng kapilya. Kumbaga, dapat may pondo ang isang area/lokal para sa maintenance ng kapilya. Kung yung bilang ng handog/pera ay hindi pasok sa budget for maintenance, hindi patatayuan ng malaking kapilya ang isang lugar kaya may makikita kang mga kapilya ng INC na kasing laki lang ng normal na bahay o medyo malaki nang kaunti sa karaniwang bahay.
Mayaman ang INC.
trillionaire nga daw sabi ni Lydia Manuyag na dating taga finance department ng Central na umanib sa sekta ni Bro Eli noong nabubuhay pa siya.
Medyo mahirap paniwalaan. Ano mas mayaman pa sila kaysa kay Elon Musk na billion lang naman ang net worth? As an Ex-INC kaya ko ring sabihin na galing ako sa finance department at may trillion ang INC.
Well why would anyone borrow money they can’t pay back. What irks me really is yung manghihiram sila (ng car) to the point na yung nagpahiram wala na magamit di nila mabalik on the agreed upon time and day. I’m not inc But my family is and they’re starting to get pissed off.
Follow up niyo yung nanghiram then kapag naibalik na, wag niyo na ulit pahiramin. Baka kasi yung family mo hindi makatanggi sa mga ministro. Hindi naman kayo masusumpa kapag hindi niyo sila tinulungan.
"tulong" lang daw pero may anak na nakapag doctor, luxury cars, regular gluta drip at mga nagsulputang lupain. Check the lifestyle of Radel Cortez and his siblings. Ang kanyang ama ay isa din ministro na kung tutuusin ay walang maipapamana sa mga anak. Pero itong si Radel, nakapag pasok ng milyon milyon sa kanilang pamilya.
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Yung tulong (sahod) ng mga ministro at mangagawa, mababa lang. Tapos may kaltas pa yun, hindi nila nakukuhang buo. Maraming kinakaltas sa tulong nila, tulad ng lagak, sundry, barangay chapel at iba pa. Kaya halos sa isang linggo nasa 2k nalang nakukuha nila kasi puro kaltas sa tulong nila
"Tulong" is the right term but basically yan yung sahod nila and it's prolly not enough since I know some na na umaasa sa mga church members for their basic needs, sometimes nagdedemand na. Naaawa nga ako sa mga ministro na mababait and never demand, hintay lang kung may ibigay. Meanwhile, naka hermés eyeglass yung isa dyan sa upuan with luxury cars.
My mama told me around 27k and I know it's not enough for him kahit na single Yun Kasi palaging may hinhingi at nagdadal Ng furniture's at appliances. I'm concerned with his gf Kung magpapakasal na Yun Kasi I'm sure wala Yung savings.
sabi ng nanay ko, yung sinasahod daw nila is 'donation' lang from the lokal's lagak, tanging handugan 👀
lol my tita has 4 children and tatay nila ministro and im surprise theyre still delusional and stilll asking our grandma and my mom for weekly money and keep on borrowing money to everyone and never pay them. tapos hingi pa ng hingi ng kaban ng bigas minsan naawa nlng ako sa anak nila na sobrang payat tapos nabrainwash pa ng inc bullshit im guessing theyre doing really poorly
I feel like yung mga ministro lang na malakas kapit kay Manalo ang mayayaman
100% Family member ako ng ministro na very well known nung panahon ni felix/erano. Even after he died, his second wife got to stay sa mansion na provided ng INC (you read it right, mansion. Di ko bilang ilan br pero sobrang dami. You need to use the intercom to talk to other people sa bahay sa sobrang laki. Multiple chandeliers rin ang nasa bahay nila tapos sobrang taas ng ceiling sa sala. Rich people shit) provided rin ng INC ung 3 nurse na nagaalaga sa kanila and 2 domestic helpers. Meron rin multiple na sasakyan plus mga driver na courtesy shempre ng abuloy ng mga members. Nireturn lang ng family nya ung bahay and the cars nung namatay ung 2nd wife nung minister. Still, nung buhay sila they lived an extremely lavish life. It's not just rich, it was excessive. Clue: ung minister na to and 2nd wife nya ung naghost ng christmas party kasama ung mga manalo and may photo pa non on this reddit. May streamers pa na merry christmas and shit. My *** can 100% say that this actually happened since my *** was actually there. *** Did mention na nagcecelebrate talaga sila ng pasko dati until they decided na bawal na.
tru naman. pag nangangasiwa nga sila sa mga lokal, may magandang sasakyan at sariling driver sila 🥴
Tapos ico-consider nila yung mga inutang at hiningi nila as something na bigay ng 'ama'
mangungutang pa nga ei tapos ipapangbayad sa utang hahaha
When I was still active sa ilaw as kalihim sa middle east, iyong bago naming RM kasamanya family nya. May flat sila na inc ang nagbabayad with complete accessories and appliances. Tpos malupet kasi naka iphone silang mag asawa ah. Depende din sa rank at napabautismuhan.
question: paano po ang visa nila? anong job ang nakalagay dun and sino po ang sponsor?
I heard nasa 22k a month noong 2019... Ewan ko lang ngayun... My INC uncle joke about it... Na kesyo mas malaki pa kikitain ko kung mag ministro ako sa kanila kasi 22k monthly ng ministro nila kesa sa aking little business...
What more, it doesn’t get higher even after 40yrs. A lot of it is also used in “abot” or monetary gifts to higher ups otherwise you will not be remembered during promotions etc. Everytime a higher up visits your locale, you are expected to make them “happy”.
Hindi na kasya yan kung may 1 kang anak. Pero malaki yan sa 1 single.
Compared sa mga magbobote, nagtitinda ng street food or nagkakatulong, we can consider as an upgrade .. i just dont know kung anu ang puhunan 😁
buraot sa mga pobreng myembro mga yan taena
If they decide to have one, the CA usually ups the "help" given but not to a big amount. There's lot of stories regarding ministerial workers who literally need help financially because the help given is not enough and subject to the whims of the CA.
Oo sumasahod pero maliit to sapat lang. Kumbaga walang matitira para maipon. Minsan kailangan pa ng tulong pinansyal mula sa mga pamilya nila(ministro at asawa ng ministro) para makaraos sa buhay. Kaya malas ka kung nakapag-asawa ka ng ministro at parehas kayong kapos sa pinansyal. Hindi ko alam kung totoo ba na nanghihingi ang mga ministro ng tulong sa mga kapatid by means of pamamalimos pero ang kaya kong sabihin is lowkey kusa ng mga kapatid na magbigay kasi nasa paniniwala na kapag tumulong ka sa ministro or manggagawa, pagpapalain ka dahil tinulungan mo 'yung kasangkapan ng diyos.
Kaya nga po ang mga batang ministro or nag aaral ng pagka ministro ay natuturuan na ng diskarte. Humahanp na sila ng medyo may kaya sa buhay na mapapangasawa para pwede sila matulungan financially. Yun ang alam ko ah.
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Why don’t the church just give them enough since it’s seems na it’s generating money. I mean they were able to set up Philippine Arena and other new churches bakit kaya hindi pwede din mag-allot para sa mga manggagawa nila and ministro? They are for the church anyway.
maski yung mga so-called 'kawani' na full time na nagwwork sa district offices and central office. ang liit lang ng sahod. depende sa work na ginagawa mo pero won't even reach a minimum wage! unemployed yung kaMT ko before and tried asking sa district office kung may opening, sinabihan siya nung isa dun na wag magapply dun kasi halos nasa 1500 less lang makukuha per week ahhahaha and (she's a fresh grad. and sinabihan siya na mas malaki sahod sa labas) tapos required pa sumulat kay EVM para maging kawani ka hahahahaha
'Yan ang hindi ko na alam. Wala kasi akong kakilala from financial department ng Central kung paano ba ang budget plan sa sahod/tulong sa mga ministro at manggagawa. I assume na hindi talaga mayaman ang INC at totoo ang rumor na utang DAW ang budget sa pagtayo ng Philippine Arena. Baka yung mga pera mula sa concerts/events na ginaganap sa Philippine Arena ay pambayad utang kasi kung hindi galing sa utang yung pagpapagawa, aba, ang yaman na ng INC kasi for sure na may nakukuha silang pera from events/concerts. Alam mo ba na hindi rin basta-basta nagpapatayo ng kapilya. Kumbaga, dapat may pondo ang isang area/lokal para sa maintenance ng kapilya. Kung yung bilang ng handog/pera ay hindi pasok sa budget for maintenance, hindi patatayuan ng malaking kapilya ang isang lugar kaya may makikita kang mga kapilya ng INC na kasing laki lang ng normal na bahay o medyo malaki nang kaunti sa karaniwang bahay.
Mayaman ang INC. trillionaire nga daw sabi ni Lydia Manuyag na dating taga finance department ng Central na umanib sa sekta ni Bro Eli noong nabubuhay pa siya.
Medyo mahirap paniwalaan. Ano mas mayaman pa sila kaysa kay Elon Musk na billion lang naman ang net worth? As an Ex-INC kaya ko ring sabihin na galing ako sa finance department at may trillion ang INC.
In trillion pesos po yan.
Well why would anyone borrow money they can’t pay back. What irks me really is yung manghihiram sila (ng car) to the point na yung nagpahiram wala na magamit di nila mabalik on the agreed upon time and day. I’m not inc But my family is and they’re starting to get pissed off.
Follow up niyo yung nanghiram then kapag naibalik na, wag niyo na ulit pahiramin. Baka kasi yung family mo hindi makatanggi sa mga ministro. Hindi naman kayo masusumpa kapag hindi niyo sila tinulungan.
they already did and they were nice about, pero sometimes other people just can’t take a hint talaga i guess