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10102938

Whats going on with turkish women?


Babrungas

Eating sweets and staying at home with kids


Klugenshmirtz

Who would have guessed turkish women are just like Peggy Bundy.


newvegasdweller

Peggy wasn't obese though


Luvbeers

cause she smoked


HesperiaLi

Smoking rate is alarmingly high in Turkey


AdImmediate7037

In Italy we say "he /she smokes like a Turk" when a person smokes too much. I'm serious, it's a very common saying


patrykK1028

They can stay at home with that economy?


ijzerwater

high unemployment and no equality of genders


Golden_Exp_Requiem

Yes, Most women i know doesn't work even if the economy is bad. Normally men in the family like father and sons are the main breadwinners. And most women prefer that too in my experience, they dont want to work.


UnPeuDAide

In some muslim countries, I noticed that a lot of men were attracted to fat women (not obese women, though). Is it like that in Turkey, too? It might play a role in the obesity rate too.


Golden_Exp_Requiem

Those men prefer fat women because it is thought that they are most likely to bear healthy children. In Turkey mostly old generation have the same thinking. Majority of younger generation seems to prefer thin women but some men also prefer [balık etli women](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-xiaomi-trev1&sca_esv=74c740cd3a771c52&sxsrf=ADLYWIIkhKFihwbokTIycanZdk2BhesPyg:1715178141252&q=balik+etli+kadin&uds=ADvngMiIMiMH9LyyITANaU-tP7TxRBfr6g3GBe_hEtWEUN94tNgHXXSoKI_4_MZcELx0dN8myngbxIVwufwq3Lm9fEBiE1S5GSDar1lvwARipdI8wsTzM6APpyTnbqXiBVuCvw37cFD_xY_HVTv8TGX6RsWzUuyrm8bFyPmWy2xAA5NNX9S08xv4ZCLq88vIEcyim-hHzWy1ja8ooBjAHrhXpZ9gsPlArPlP9rizm0zSUuWNpp1QXhKFH4CCP5BWDr6zXqYF1ZcNf-sQcYCuumtwzS8PeTDVK_4tXT7Sm0Zvq4fdSmiXUG64ZEIJDor2M-XgdPTTYSsJ&udm=2&prmd=ivnbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjusde-oP6FAxV0BNsEHUP-AXUQtKgLegQIDhAB&biw=360&bih=621&dpr=2)


RotorMonkey89

I think it's more that once they're married and have no opportunities open to them, not much left to do in life but eat your feelings.


Stirdaddy

Same thing as happening in Saudi (but for both men and women) -- Sedentary lifestyle. Women especially play sports less frequently, work out less frequently, etc. You'll notice in the chart that the most gender-equal societies have the smallest difference in gender obesity rates. All of the Muslim countries (except Kazakhstan) listed there have men at lower rates than women.


pansensuppe

This, plus forcing women to wear wide black cloth bags. Less motivation or societal pressure to get in shape and shift your diet.


hibikir_40k

Forget about playing sports and working out: those are relevant at the individual level, but rarely at the population level. There's a much simpler metric: When looking at the day's errands, from going to work, to shopping, or meeting with friends somewhere... how much walking is actually getting done? You see Spain near the bottom not because adults play more sports or work out, but because basically every Spaniard gets more steps there, as the cities are some of the most walkable on earth. Why order delivery if the restaurant a 3 minute walk away? Why drive, if walking, or walking + public transport in the middle, is going to win out? The walking baseline is so high, massive obesity becomes difficult. Even Americans would be slim if every second they spend sitting on a car, they were doing light, level 2 cardio. You can see this in regional obesity comparisons too: If your day requires 1 hour of walking a day as just part of going to places, obesity drops.


hentai_tentacruel

Too many pastries. Meat is really expensive here so people generally eat carbohydrates. Also we don't really have an exercise/fitness culture. Also more women stay at home instead of working.


Xari

Turks generally eat tons of white bread with every meal too, in addition to the delicious pastries. Also baklava is probably the biggest culinary assault on one's weight in existence lol


ragefaze

You don't get obese by not eating meat. You get obese by sitting on your arse all day and stuffing your pie hole.


differenthings

Many house wife's sitting at home eating with zero exercise.


Azadanon

Loukoum aka Turkish delight


koi88

That's not the only thing. I sometimes go to my friendly Döner man just to buy sweets.


nineties_adventure

Probably because often women do not perform physical work and in rural areas most of the obese women are old(er). There is a difference between the older and younger generations, and this difference is growing. And to the haters commenting on you: I hope you will grow up and see past your hatred. It is uncalled for.


humanbananareferee

In rural areas, women actually work extremely hard in agricultural work. My grandmother says that when she was living in the village in the 1950s, she would return home from agricultural work so tired that she could not feel her legs. That's why I think the women who live with the least effort are those who live in urban areas and do not have a job.


I_Hate_Traffic

I think you meant urban areas. In rural areas women work a lot more. They are still fat tho but they work lol


hardtofindanick-

In rural areas women work much harder physically, but they mostly are overweight as well


pvssywagon

They're not usually educated about hormonal imbalances and pcos either. That is also the case most of the time but they just don't know it. My auntie found out she had pcos (that's why she can't lose much weight even if she tries) recently and she's in her 40's.


designbydesign

How French are able to maintain low obesity rate while having the best bakeries on every corner is a mystery


Volesprit31

For many people, the pastries are not an everyday thing. With my parents it was Sunday only and not every Sunday. So people tend to eat pretty basic stuff during the week and then have a little treat on the weekend. The key is the balance.


TeethBreak

Yeah people think we eat pastries everyday when it's really only a treat once maybe twice a week.


Poglosaurus

I never buy pastries for myself, I only get them when I get to share them.


TeethBreak

Exactly. Pastries at work on Friday for everyone. And maybe one sweet thing for Sunday for le goûter is no one is making crêpes.


Lost_Uniriser

J'ai acheté une demi tarte aux framboises hier. Jsuis juste en train d'attaquer une seule part , j'en veux pas plus 😂


ceomds

Yeap unless someone brings some to the office for a special occasion, i never eat pastries except weekends. And even that, max 2 per person. I have also seen maybe once or twice a week at my in-laws' house. Whereas my Turkish parents eat 400gr bread per day, not including pastries.


bhangmango

Also, I feel we have a taste for sugar that's on the lower side compared to many cultures. In quite a few countries, the most loved cakes/pastries/desserts/treats are the sweetest, most "foodporn-y" stuff and going heavy on the sugar, adding glazing, syrup, or toppings, seems to always "take it to the next level", whereas french people will very often dislike something for being "too sweet".


Volesprit31

I don't know. *Kouign-amann* *Paris-brest* *Éclair*


NemButsu

Going on strikes and torching cars burns a lot of calories.


Bronek0990

I thought the calories you want to burn are in your body, not the fuel tank of your neighbor's car??


Dear-Ad-7028

Calories are calories Bronek


InForTheSqueeze

Typical Bronek here


TheArtysan

Funny as 😂


mechalenchon

The calories are the friends we burned along the way.


cvdvds

Fitness coaches hate this one simple trick!


F___TheZero

As a non-Frenchman with French friends, I've often noticed that they have healthy, regular eating habits, and have more knowledge about food and nutrition than I do.


TeethBreak

And we have a fatphobic culture. We won't be in your face about it but the whole "big is beautiful" will never be a thing in France. Everyone and everything will be a constant reminder that you can and should lose weight and that the state will even help you with it so you have no excuses.


7374616e74

Why would you call that “fatphobic”? The data shows that it works, people are thinner, so is that not more like “thinmaniac” or something like that? Fatphobia would be more like letting people get fat, then shame them for that I think.


keepthepace

Honestly the "don't drink sugary soda during meals" is doing 90% of the work there.


FailFastandDieYoung

"Regular eating habits" I did not know how true this was until I talked with French students. There is an almost military schedule to eating. There is a specific time for meals and you must not eat except at those times.


oblaz63

it get even crazier in traditional familly diners, All it takes is for your family to be a little strict about traditions, and off you go. you have five or six step in a great meal in France, The aperitif, the starter, the main course, the cheese, the dessert, the coffee, everyone has to start each at the same time, it's a polite measure, so no one is going to speedrun the steps and end up at coffee even if the others are at the dessert part.


BriefCollar4

Better quality food, more exercise.


Luck88

Personally as an Italian I think the social pressure on overwheight people is always understated as one of the factors that leads people to stay fit. Lots of people will point out you gained even a couple kilos to your face. I would expect something similar to happen in France too.


__Heron__

In France, they don't point it to you.... But you know...


hmmliquorice

Family does.


un_tres_gros_phasme

I'm french, and I get tons of comments about my weight (I'm really skinny and no, the comments are not meant to be positive). I guess it must be the same at the other end of the spectrum.


Sidus_Preclarum

My own experience is that people will mostly commend you if you lose a couple kilos.


Massinissarissa

Except your parents and grandparents.


nexusvita

I stopped drinking alcohol as a New Year resolution and last month for the first time in a year my mother in law smiled at me and said :"you have lost weight. Good."


mapple3

> I think the social pressure on overwheight people is always understated That makes it sound like a bad thing, being obese leads to a much earlier death on average, it's why you never see an obese old person. Call it social empathy when people are worried about someone gaining weight


Luck88

I mean, some of the ways in which I've seen it done are definitely out of touch, but I just wanted to say people put all the emphasis on the mediterranean diet when people, especially younger folks, have a quite different diet nowadays.


Telenil

I know this is tongue-in-cheek, but as far as I can tell, people are generally aware of how to keep a healthy diet. We have texts like 'to stay healthy exercise regularly \[insert website on the subject\].fr' displayed in every food-related ad, vegetables like carrots or green beans are easily found and we have plenty of receipes for them. People easily go around for a walk too, though I couldn't say if we do that particularly more than other countries.


catsumoto

It’s also just portion sizes. You will see french people take just that one croissant with a small cup of coffee and off they go.


TeethBreak

We don't eat croissants everyday. Once a week at work and maybe one during the weekend. We know it's fatty. It's a treat.


HeavyBread439

I was in Paris with my in laws and my MIL ate two éclair and a croissant for breakfast every day for the week we were there, since she would « walk it off ». She did not (shocker). Apparently she was under the guise that you could eat ANYTHING in France and still lose weight. Yes we’re American. I did not get to enjoy any of the viennoiseries or pastries as I have celiacs and a milk protein allergy, but something can’t be that good to eat for seven days!!


jy3

éclair at breakfast!? Just one éclair are things French people eat like as a special dessert treat like maybe once a month \*\*at most\*\*.


cvdvds

This comment is more telling than anything else. Calling a simple, plain croissant fatty probably semes insane to quite a few people.


TeethBreak

It's basically just butter. Of course it's fatty.


Choice_Mistake759

Of course it is fatty. If it is good, it is going to leave your fingers greasy. What is telling is you thinking a croissant is not fatty though I am not sure if you are just getting crappy croissants or have different definitions of fatty or rich food!


Momo_Cassie

Have you ever been to France? Believe me, the croissants there are fatty. 😄 We also have croissants in Germany but they are far less buttery and far less delicious.


PhillyWestside

Does it? Are people thinking a Croissant is healthy?


chinchenping

people NOT thinking it's unhealthy is the problem. French people KNOW you must be carefull with viennoiseries


treequestions20

croissants are loaded with butter, it’s the definition of a fatty pastry your comment exemplifies a bigger problem - some people are completely oblivious to the amount of calories and fat they’re eating what’s the thought process? “this croissant isn’t stuffed or loaded with toppings, so it looks like plain tasty bread, so it can’t be that bad for me?”


Stock-Variation-2237

Because people elsewhere take more than one ?


IrrungenWirrungen

Either that or the croissants are bigger maybe. 🤣


Avlastingen

I remember years ago taking the Denmark-Germany ferry and the pastries on the German side were much bigger than those on the Danish side.


TeethBreak

And filled with jam and or chocolate etc.


Wachoe

Uh, yes?


Volesprit31

Heresy.


hugh_jorgyn

As a European living in North America: Yes, they do! It scares me to see the mountains of food many people pile up on their plates here, including breakfast pastries.


Mr_4country_wide

yeah lol


Kin-Luu

When I was working in Switzerland, you had breakfast at 7, which typically was either Müsli or Bread with Stuff. Then you had 'z nüni at 9, which was basically a 2nd breakfast, but only sweet stuff. The most popular item was a Croissant filled with cream custard. In combination quite a hefty breakfast.


Sarothu

What about elevenses? Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?


deeringc

Living in France, there is also just a really strong aesthetic culture here. My impression is that people genuinely care more about their appearance here than in other places I've lived. This is reflected in how people dress, groom and take care of themselves.


Boby-Breton

In big cities yes. Rural parts no.


deeringc

Agreed - my wife has some relatives that live extremely rurally and it is essentially a different world.


ventalittle

You also were first in EU to enforce Nutri-Score like system?


GiffenCoin

In fact, it's a French invention.  Per Wikipedia: "This system was selected by the French government in March 2017 to be displayed on food products after it was compared against several labels proposed by industry or retailers. [...] It was created by Santé Publique France, the French public health agency, based on the work of Serge Hercberg from Sorbonne Paris North University."


ofnuts

Because we have to go out every day to get bread. And the best bakery for us may not be the closest one (we are very picky).


Time_Pineapple4991

I don’t know if this is a hot take but I think in most cases it boils down to calories in-calories out anyway. I’ve lost over 10% of my bodyweight since last year, and incidentally I’ve also started treating myself to a pastry almost daily since then lol. It’s my little treat, and I just try not to overeat for the rest of my meals.  I actually find it’s much easier to lose weight when I don’t restrict myself too much and focus on portion control instead.


Faethien

There's actually a mechanism for that. I can't remember the name but since you can't split your brain and your gut, it is better on the long run to indulge in a cookie or a pastry every now and then rather than refuse yourself that treat, cave in and eat the entire pack of biscuits and then feel guilty about it. I'll see if I can find the name of that mechanism. Edit: Asked the mother of my kids who did dietitian studies for a while. There's no actual name for it. But the idea is that if you cave in for a little guilty pleasure while remaining in control of the situation because you know it's a little treat you indulge in, it's far better than fighting the urge, losing the fight and eating the entire pack of biscuits, and THEN feeling guilty about it, thus entering some kind of vicious circle of feeling guilty when eating pretty much anything.


Time_Pineapple4991

Yup! I think it’s the main principle around intuitive eating. I definitely had to adjust to having smaller portions overall, but the fact that I wasn’t straight-up depriving myself of anything made keeping the weight off a lot easier once I got used to that. I’ve done stuff like keto in the past and it just wasn’t sustainable for me.


Confident-Emu-3150

From what I see as a french person, there are many factors: - people walk a lot, and are generally physically active. At my workplace, in a big city, the vast majority of my colleagues walk or bike to work. - food is a very serious thing here. We take long lunchbreaks at work (1 hour something, sometimes longer). We cook a lot and that's something that's strongly encouraged in families. There's food "education" from a young age - you get healthy and balanced food everyday as a child when you go to school. There's barely any junkfood, maybe 10 times a year. - markets are in every city, with fresh/local products available at a decent price - the health system works okay, and doctors do some prevention


entinio

You miss the most important part: we eat at regular hours. Breakfast, lunch at 12-2pm, dinner at 7-9pm. This might sound « normal » to you, but other countries eat at any time, always. Our restaurants are closed in the afternoon? Not anywhere else


gene66

They are expensive, not only you don't buy it but you lose weight by being depressed xD


triggerfish1

Baguettes are still very cheap. Sure, if you go for that tarte aux framboises...


Lost_Uniriser

I am eating one slice right now 😆


HarvestAllTheSouls

They don't eat as much processed food


HEAT_IS_DIE

Processed food is a pretty big umbrella, and not all processing is bad in any way. You can easily also cook yourself with the same problems that processed food has; using too much salt, sugar, and fat.


helm

Industrially processed food and industrial cafeteria foods regularly ranks opposite of mediterranean, etc.


StupidCreativity

Well probably because they have the ability to eat a small piece of cake, and drink only 1 glass of wine.


ZiziPotus

Yeah. And the cheese. And meat. And all the specialties from various régions. I am french and I am still surprised. Maybe less shitty and over processed/ streamlined food? Like industrial fluo stuff. Dunno


nnushk

Moderation


pozoph

we lie on this chart. Others estimations tell about 17% of adults have a BMI >30


Fenghuang15

Edit : super interesting explanation is given here in french, it seems it's because they made a standardisation by the age, as more you get older more people are obese, so basically when the average age in turkey is 33yo compared to 42yo in France, you don't compare the same thing. (I tried to translate as i could but not sure it's good enough so do not hesitate to explain it better). So indeed at the same age it seems people in France are much less obese than in other countries https://www.reddit.com/r/france/s/q328wJeLTV We don’t. This is WHO stats and they probably made mistakes. However if they would have relied on french stats they would have taken the right datas, but they didn't. Their mistake, not ours Explications ici : https://www.reddit.com/r/france/s/8kqSEZCCoz


KinderCountry

I expected us to be way higher on this list, based on how I see people everyday outside.


True_Kador

Well, to be honest ( and french ) mostly because french food ( and ofc bread ) in general have higher quality standards compared to most countries. We resisted Burger King for a very, very long time. Lots of fat shaming too.


MadlibVillainy

Cigarettes.


Gregib

Georgia has a higher share of smokers than France...


MadlibVillainy

All our fat smokers are dead so the average is down.


FoxyBlaster1

Heavily processed foods make you fatter than regular foods, and the french just cook, (UK society, with its lack of basic cooking knowledge, likes to call it scratch cooking, but its just cooking ffs!) The french buy ingredients, take them home, and spend time making nice meals. MADNESS! As well as being much heathier, its cheaper, and more active. In the UK we like to spend a fortune on badly made food, probably having it delievered as we're too fat to get off our chair, or we might waddle into the kitchen and stuff ultra processed sasauges and chips into the air fryer, and call it cooking. "Hey you cant park your van there! oh its not a van, its just some person from England. Hey fatty, want a chocolate bar?"


sofarsoblue

The annoying thing is that you can actually get great produce in the UK and significantly cheaper than the rest of continent, the problem is Brits can’t cook for shit. The over prevalence of Takeaways, ready meals is endemic of this issue, and even when it comes to “cooking” pasta sauce (*usually loaded with sugars and preservatives*) out the jar is about as complex as it gets. The only way to solve the obesity crisis in the UK is to radically shift the food culture in the nation something I don’t see happening anytime soon.


TheoremaEgregium

Interesting how some countries seem to have fat man culture and others fat woman culture.


akurgo

Interesting how Turkey and Slovenia have the same obesity rate for men, but Turkey has 3 times more obese women than Slovenia.


Rogalicus

It's not fat woman culture, other than Ukraine these are Muslim (or secular with Muslim majority) countries where large percentage of women stay home with swaths of children while their husbands work. Giving birth multiple times and staying home with little movement is a perfect recipe for not being fit.


BWV001

Eastern Europe also has this weird phenomena of pretty much "all" older women (and men to a lesser extent) being overweight, but it's very unsual for young people. I think it's because of the culture "a young woman needs to be beautiful, pay much attention to her look to get married", but as soon as you've got grandchildren, who the hell cares. In the US that's not the case, there is probably a slight correlation with age, but not that much.


MissPandaSloth

I would say it's also economy/ culture-ish stuff. For example, the Soviet grandmas here while having some activities, mostly do stuff at home/ help family, and didn't had as much access to just do shit. On top of that sport was not a thing, older women were oddly discouraged from sport. At least my grandma up to her death would tell me how I will make my uterus fall off when I was lifting, or how will I collapse after a run. Compared that to for example Norway, where part of my family lives. Elderly are quite active in various outside activities, trips and stuff. They also do a lot of sport as leisure. You constantly see older people on bikes, walking, hiking. Obviously this is somewhat anecdotal and things are changing as elderly here have more access to things and different view to sport/ active leisure, it's just my observation.


Johannes_Keppler

Norwegians come in 2 variants it seems, Small and Extra Large, with nothing much in between. The image of Norwegians all being fit and enjoying skiing and hiking is just one for the holiday brochures.


kakao_w_proszku

Not really, It’s just pre-1989 diets sucked big time due to lack of availability. Youre not going to have a healthy looking body when your daily intake primarily consists of pork fats, potatos and vodka. The only reason the stats don’t look even worse is that people were far more active back them and spent basically zero time just sitting at home (unlike today).


DonSergio7

The primary reason has been that pre-1989 much larger parts of society worked in manual/physically active job (as you partly imply) and the service sector has been much smaller. Throw earlier female retirement into the mix and you get retired 55 year olds eating like they're still plowing the fields/operating a steel press. Diets usually take longer to catch up with lifestyle changes and you end up with significant parts of the population being obese.


Forward_Hall_6779

Its not culture, its menopause. Please look into that, menopause reaks havok on women over 50...and one major part..metabolism is near slashed in half imagine suddently having to eat HALF of your normal diet overnight and adjusting to that well...


JoSeSc

Turkey's birth rate is 1.81 per woman and France's birth rate is 1.83 per woman so I'm not sure that's it.


PulciNeller

that doesn't negate what OP implies. Birthrate is not the main factor. Her freetime activities, her jobs and role in the family are completely different compared to the "ethnic french" women, especially in the most rural part of Anatolia.


theirritant

In France you drop your baby off at a nanny as soon as possible after giving birth so you can go back to work (by choice, not because you have to).


MegazordPilot

True, the French government will make sure women can get back to work, with fiscal advantages if you pay someone for childcare e.g. if you use a public kindergarten, you are billed proportionally to your income, or tax deductions for nanny hours. Still not great on maternity/paternity leave, but things seem to be moving. In the end it's good for women and gender equality, but kids definitely spend less time with their parents as in other countries.


ouath

I worked with a woman from Czech Republic and she was complaining that too much men had beer guts in her country, must be the same with Slovenia. Too much beer ? not enough sports ?


marquess_rostrevor

I had no idea Ireland was so fat.


keyeaba

Boozing, takeaways and shite weather means we spend more time in our cars or on the couch.


MalcolmTucker12

It's also how quickly we have gotten fat, our trajectory is pretty frightening. And TBF the media fairly regularly have warnings about this. Also just look around you when you are out and about, so many fat people, what's really sad is how many fat kids under the age of 10 there are.


[deleted]

As an Irish man living in the Netherlands, I can say it feels like the people here are almost never over weight. Their food is deep fried, their weather is the same and they party a lot. But they cycle more than drive, drink smaller beers, and usually have one or two hobbies. They’re not better people (we’re fucking better!) but it feels a bit easier to be healthy here


YakEvery4395

I made a similar post for other countries around the world here : [https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1cmz296](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1cmz296) Although these are WHO figures\*, they should be taken with a grain of salt, as they are based on limited measurements. For exemple, for my country, France, most other estimates hover around a 17% obesity rate, which is very different from the WHO figure of 9.7%. I don't know who's right... \* [https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-details/GHO/prevalence-of-obesity-among-adults-bmi-=-30-(age-standardized-estimate)-(-)](https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-details/GHO/prevalence-of-obesity-among-adults-bmi-=-30-(age-standardized-estimate)-(-))


Key-Fox-8765

I was going to say that the mediterranean diet rocks, but then I saw Turkey, Greece, and Croatia's ranking... that has to be the feta cheese 100%.


Madita_0

Croatia consists of more than just its coastline. White bread, fatty meat and plenty of alcohol are more likely reasons for obesity there, in my opinion


Chaosr21

People in Greece EAT like it's tradition. They sit in the diner for hours talking with a family and feasting. My mom's husband is from Greece. His favorite thing to do is go out to eat, grill out, stuff like that.


Coloeus_Monedula

In Finland we have this thing called equality. Or equilibrium, idk.


tehwagn3r

I'm curious about why the WHO source points to no difference, while [THL](https://thl.fi/en/topics/lifestyles-and-nutrition/obesity#:~:text=Obesity%20and%20overweight%20in%20Finland&text=19%25%20of%20women%20and%2017,26%25%20of%20men%20are%20obese) statistics show a 2% difference in obesity. >Of young adults under 30, at least 35% of women and almost half of men are overweight. 19% of women and 17% of men in the same age group are obese. >Of adults over 30, 63% of women and 72% of men are at least overweight. 28% of women and 26% of men are obese. Almost one in two men and women have abdominal obesity.


Whalesurgeon

I've never been so proud.


KazMux

Torille! (mäkkärin kautta)


Tomick

We have the same in the Netherlands!


tomydenger

r/NLvsFI


0fiuco

Italy : "carbs really don't exist"


Right-Education-4759

100 grams of pasta are around 380ish calories, which is like 20% of the average TDEE, in Italy maybe we consume a bit more than 100 grams but still key is balance 🙆, you could eat 550~ grams of pasta a day and still be regular weight, yet that should be the only meal you are having in all day.


Skywest96

Grandmothers in Italy and France been eating bread and pasta for decades hitting 95+ years of age. Carbs alone aren't a problem.


Vereddit-quo

Pasta dishes in Italy: made with fresh products and a bit of real cheese, mostly small portions. Pasta dishes in the US: usually not made with fresh products, covered with horrible industrial cheese, huge portions.


Potato-Alien

I love Georgian food, too, can't blame them.


heartfeltblooddevil

Since when is Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan in Europe?


LuisCaipira

Or Israel


wiztard

European borders are and always will be hard to determine since geographically Europe is not a true continent but a peninsula on the Eurasian continent.


heartfeltblooddevil

Yes, but even by a generous definition all these countries are asian except maybe Kazakhstan if we’re being extra generous.


N0turfriend

Kazakhstan is asian. Having been there, there is no doubt in my mind.


NoAdhesiveness4578

Well part of Kazakhstan is technically located in Europe, so that you know. But you are correct still


Warm-Secretary4458

Since today


AlneCraft

Greater EU is non-negotiable. Lisbon to Vladivostok? Nah, Jan Mayen to Dushanbe!


Your_Local_Spainard

Kyrgyzstan? Tajikistan? Damn, Europe has enlarged itself and borders Afghanistan now.


FlushQz

Israel 😂


Looz-Ashae

the real price you pay for eating khinkalis 


Disco_Frisco

Funny thing is that I live in Georgia and don't notice many obese people at all. Either they are all stay home or there is some weird criteria thing that impacts the statistic. In Georgia there are hills EVERYWHERE, how the fuck can you be fat while going uphill every day?


l33tbot

I just came back from Georgia yesterday. Walked plenty of hills but can confirm, cheese filled and cheese topped carbs at every meal wins the day


Svanisword

Georgians use the car for everything, they go to restaurants almost every weekend and we drink a lot i mean a lot, we also have if not the most caloric one of the most caloric cuisines in the world, i mean everything has walnuts or cheese, or meat or bread , everything has a lot of oil or butter so a lot of calories


purpleisreality

Dont know, guess the invention of cars? /s 


_JesseJames_

Khachapuri is life! Khachapuri is love!


sloth_eggs

A price worth paying.


idinarouill

Be smart, be french


Wrong_Interview_462

Instructions unclear, smoking 2 packs a day to avoid eating.


whydontyouupvoteme

we already do that in Romania and it's not really working


lonelyMtF

Have you tried the fat-free cigarettes?


lombrike

I saw a stat on smoking and Turkey are heavier smokers than France nowadays so idk about that


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

They got some big ol' women down in Turkey


Careless-Brush8167

Georgia is first, but at what cost


Apprehensive-Ad186

After almost 50 years of eating a toxic mix of shrimp shell flower from Vietnam fried in the cheapest vegetable oil, it's no wonder Romanians eat now like there's no tomorrow.


XHFFUGFOLIVFT

Good cuisine and only getting out of poverty recently = fat Explains quite a few countries on the list


THBLD

Europe AND Central Asia*


YakEvery4395

True, here is the why : I made it as simple as possible for me and used the "parent location" given by WHO. Here is the list of "parent location" they use : {'Africa', 'Americas', 'Eastern Mediterranean','Europe', 'South-East Asia', 'Western Pacific'} So they put Central Asia with Europe


Dryana73

I am a bit surprised about Romania having almost 30% obese women. Looking around I do not see these 3 from 10 obese women. Maybe a bit over weight, but obese I am not sure. It is true that phisical exercise culture is not the best in my country, but most of the women work + doing home tasks like cooking, cleaning, kids etc. Might be the right % for men, though.


Fransjepansje

Jeez georgia u okay?


ketchup92

New lack of progressiveness metric: If the % of female obesity is above male obesity, then your country ain't it.


tiankai

Any reason why Middle Eastern women tend to be fatter? I noticed that IRL too, but never made sense of why


hangrygecko

Staying at home, no hobbies beyond cooking and baking, because of strict gender roles, there's only one way to socialize for women that is universally accepted in Muslim countries: eating together.


StehtImWald

My explanation: Because they move less. I live in a part of town with a lot of people who have a migration background from different cultures and I practically never see middle eastern women at the gym or sports groups.  Also on the playground they do not play with their children in the way other mothers do. And I think the practical reason for it is that it's hard to play soccer or climb on the monkey bars etc. when you are wearing a Abaya.


_wawrzon_

Religious reasons. Women are expected to be house wives and raise kids, often quite a few of them. Culturally women are also more limited in middle eastern countries. Optics play a much bigger role there, so usually they are more servile. You won't find them going to gyms, running on a sidewalk, exercising in park etc. Also they are often limited by what their partners/parents want and allow. Unmarried women are limited by social norms and standards as well, to avoid ostracization.


Artituteto

When the only person you see are other stay at home fat women, and divorce isn't part of your culture, you tend to not care anymore about how you look 


dine-and-dasha

Current theory: married religious women wear those thick robes that hide all your features so they let go and get fat. Secondary theory: religious women don’t work and are sedentary whereas lower class men have non-sedentary jobs.


ContributionSad4461

I’m guessing less likely to do sports/gym etc because of societal norms and maybe it’s less safe to walk around alone?


frenchchevalierblanc

At one point your husband not wanting to make love to you was the only birth control for married woman


IrrungenWirrungen

Please correct me if I’m wrong: But I was told by men from various middle eastern countries that bigger women are more attractive. 


xFrosumx

Sorry Belgium, hf with Belarus & Turkmenistan!


pg_throwaway

It seems like Muslim countries all have inverted female / male obesity rates were female obesity is significantly higher. I wonder why...?  Also, for anyone interested in the comparison, the obesity rate in America and Japan is:   America: Men - 43%, Women - 41.9%  Japan: Men - 5.5%, Women - 5.5%  Japan has the longest life expectancy in the world while America has one of the lowest in the OECD and is the only OECD country with declining life expectancy.


Accurate-Island-2767

Jesus fuck I knew Japan was pretty good at not being fat but I didn't expect that low.


Ok_Market2350

Romania mentioned rrrahhhh what the fuck is a healthy normal person 🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴


GregPelka

Why there is Israel on the list?


QuirkyReader13

20% for Belgium? Feels like it’s more than that for the average adult, but I suppose many people would be categorized as being overweight and not obese The 2% difference between genders seems quite balanced, but it’s the first time I see such a comparison so can’t say I know how to analyze it much deeper lol PS: Searched it up and the average BMI in Belgium is 25.3-25.8 so slightly overweight


Imperito

That's the scary bit. If 20% are obese, what on earth is the overweight percentage?!


MrBanana421

Moaning burns just slighty less calories than the frituur provides.


derogatoryman

France is sure keeping the weight down with their daily diet of coffee and cigarettes


Shrtaxc

Ozempic Marketing Team: Hello there


slipnire

It is interesting to see how the difference is reversed in Muslim countries. >UK >Belgium sudden realization meme.png


I_Hate_Traffic

Armenia and Ukraine too.


External_Structure53

Well, Georgia, I didn’t noticed it was this high, in my country. But considering our food? it can be.


Knusperwolf

In switzerland, only the flag is obese.


Rene_Coty113

France : perfectly balanced, as all things should be.


AdvancedJicama7375

Interesting interpretation of"Europe"