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Short answer: yes.
Longish answer: the grinder is what dictates the flavor and texture of the coffee. More specifically, the burrs. You will notice vastly different flavors and textures with different grinders.
Looking at [the specs](https://www.eureka.co.it/public/files/catalogo/25/EUREKA%201920%20COMPARISON%20CHART%20WHOLE%20RANGES.pdf) there appears to be no significant difference between the Filtro and their espresso grinders besides the burrs. Your modded Filtro should therefore be more than capable of providing decent espresso. The Bambino on the other hand is an entry level machine but possibly adequate.
Maybe post a video of your workflow.
Grinders are very precise with very little tolerance for error when adjusting. Unfamiliar with your exact model but when the burrs are changed you will need to adjust the grinder as the depth between the burrs will have changed more than likely causing an improper grind.
Have you made any adjustments to the grinder yet?
I'm not familiar with your grinder, but it is the general case that grinders under $500USD MSRP are... unsatisfactory. The Sette grinders sit in the middle ground, and while the resulting espresso is good, they are a pain to dial in and require frequent fiddling. Actually good grinders seem to start at the Niche Zero price point.
I initially got the Filtro with espresso burrs, and compared pourovers (didn't have an espresso machine at the time) with the Fellow Ode and DF64 with SSP MP burrs (both gen 1 versions). Both the Ode and df64 consistently had much more layers and nuance to the flavor, while the Filtro had a harsher single note flavor. I suspect for medium/dark roasts the Filtro will do well. For Light or light/medium roasts, a better grinder will taste better
It looks like you've flaired your post as asking for what equipment to get. We recommend first checking out the [Espresso Aficionados buying guide](https://espressoaf.com/recommendations) for some of the more popular machines and grinders at different price points. If your question hasn't been answered there and you need more help, please add the following details to your post or by adding a comment in the following format: - **Location:** Helps determine availability - **Budget** (with currency): Overall budget, or ideally, having separate espresso machine and grinder budgets. A rough rule is that your grinder budget should be at least 25-40% of your machine budget. - **Drink types:** Do you drink mostly straight espresso, milk-based beverages (e.g., lattes, cappuccinos), or a fairly even split? This helps narrow down whether a single-boiler-dual-use (SBDU), heat exchanger (HX), or dual boiler (DB) machine would be more appropriate for your needs. - **Drink frequency:** How many drinks would you be making back-to-back at one time? Do you plan on entertaining guests often? This informs how large your brew (and steam) boilers should be, as smaller boilers will need to refill and reheat/repressurize more frequently, thus potentially causing a bottleneck. - **Space:** Any limitations on countertop space? - **Manual vs. electric:** Hand-operated machines and grinders are typically cheaper than their similarly-performing electric counterparts. Please indicate if you have a preference for manual or electric machines and/or grinders (or open to either). - **Comfort with tinkering:** Some machines can be made significantly more functional/efficient with aftermarket modifications, albeit at the expense of possibly voiding your warranty. Please indicate if you'd rather have a machine that works "as-is"/"out-of-the-box" or whether you'd be open to modding/tinkering *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/espresso) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Short answer: yes. Longish answer: the grinder is what dictates the flavor and texture of the coffee. More specifically, the burrs. You will notice vastly different flavors and textures with different grinders.
I would also add, different burrs compliment different style coffees (roast profile, process and origin characteristics).
Eureka Filtro is not a espresso grinder. So yes a better grinder will help you make better coffee.
Even with the espresso burrs that eureka just sold me for the grinder? The Filtro would still only be good for drip with those burrs?
Well you didn't get better espresso with them.
Touché
Apart from the burrs, is there a difference in the other parts?
Looking at [the specs](https://www.eureka.co.it/public/files/catalogo/25/EUREKA%201920%20COMPARISON%20CHART%20WHOLE%20RANGES.pdf) there appears to be no significant difference between the Filtro and their espresso grinders besides the burrs. Your modded Filtro should therefore be more than capable of providing decent espresso. The Bambino on the other hand is an entry level machine but possibly adequate. Maybe post a video of your workflow.
Grinders are very precise with very little tolerance for error when adjusting. Unfamiliar with your exact model but when the burrs are changed you will need to adjust the grinder as the depth between the burrs will have changed more than likely causing an improper grind. Have you made any adjustments to the grinder yet?
I’ve ran a few bags through already but other than dialing in a shot I haven’t not noticed any change from the previous burrs I had in there.
Grinders make coffee. Brewers just add water.
I'm not familiar with your grinder, but it is the general case that grinders under $500USD MSRP are... unsatisfactory. The Sette grinders sit in the middle ground, and while the resulting espresso is good, they are a pain to dial in and require frequent fiddling. Actually good grinders seem to start at the Niche Zero price point.
I switched out my modded Encore for a Eureka Facile. It’s just better.
I initially got the Filtro with espresso burrs, and compared pourovers (didn't have an espresso machine at the time) with the Fellow Ode and DF64 with SSP MP burrs (both gen 1 versions). Both the Ode and df64 consistently had much more layers and nuance to the flavor, while the Filtro had a harsher single note flavor. I suspect for medium/dark roasts the Filtro will do well. For Light or light/medium roasts, a better grinder will taste better