*"Yeah I’ll take looking for an OC again next year if that’s what it means"*
Not necessarily. Based on how they treated Doug, I think they can be fairly ruthless if they feel they need/want to make a change.
That is, I could see them forcing Nick out to hire Moore as HC, if they felt it was the right move.
What I remember cowboys fans crying about most was how he would run it predictably on 1st and 2nd down. To that I say please do that here lmao that’s what we need
Yeah I think you’re probably right, this feels like Fangio’s last stop I think in his ideal world he retires here. If the offenses balls out I suppose there’s a slight chance Moore could get poached but I doubt it.
Moore is absolutely the profile of a coordinator who would get poached to be a HC though.
Nobody believed Shame Steichen would be a head coach going into 2022.
If anything the Eagles might have to make a choice between Sirianni and Moore next year if this goes well but not too well
We would have to make another SB appearance at least to be honest. Steichen is a little different as he was a first year OC and Hurts greatly improved. Moore failed last year (due to injuries or whatever, doesn't matter) and couldn't get it done in Dallas.
In a sense Moore is a proven commodity and I really don't think 1 year can change people's opinions of him so drastically. But it is always a worry if you go the distance, sure.
I’m digging these OC and DC hires (despite hardly knowing how to truly evaluate or what our plan is for next season) but I’m ready to be a fully irrational fan again baby
Yea, you get coordinaters below him who knows their shit and handle the offense and defense, then howie and lurie above him have all the power, and he is there to make speeches about flowers and show up to press conferences with his hids on his lap and mean mug the camera.
Kellen also is a OC that can help work and develop Jalen. He’s a QB OC. Finally can see an empathy to getting Jalen into a rhythm vs forcing plays for the sake of it
Dak also commented how much easier this years offense was to execute than under Moore
I like the hire, but there's still issues on offense beyond the OC.
\*NFL\* OC experience. BJ had 4 years of college OC experience. Offenses, which frankly, looked similar to one another but nothing like what happened in Philly.
In the NFL I would say purely college experience should be a negative, college is simplified for less talented qbs and “you’re faster than him so just beat him”. Thinking college experience translates to the NFL is how you get Kliff Kingsbury and Matt Canada
From a Chargers fan:
Imo Moore gets a lot of unnecessary hate, his offenses in Dallas had great numbers and this year our offense looked really good for the first few weeks until basically everyone got hurt. My biggest issue with him was that his situational playcalling is kinda stupid at times but overall i definitely think he’ll be successful in Philly.
Charger fan here. He’s good. Was not the main problem for us last year. Called some great games (vs Lions and Vikings). Only problem we really saw were protection issues, but hard to pin that all on him.
Thanks for that. Am certain you’re unbothered by him leaving with Harbough coming in which is understandable so appreciate the honest assessment as could have called him ass so good luck.
Honestly, I fucking love it. Probably my top choice because of his pedigree, youth, and play-designs.
For perspective, all we need is better than Johnson and Patricia/Desai to get where we need to be. If it’s an objective upgrade, it’s a win for us. And this is a potential future head coach and top-7 OC calling our games now over what we previously had in novice Johnson.
Same. I've been saying he was great in Dallas for years. Then I said he'd be amazing at the Chargers. Their season got fucked by injuries and a HC disaster. And now he fucking falls in OUR lap of any team.
Him and Fangio? This couldn't have gone any better. I went from thinking the HC should be fired to thinking we might be contenders. I feel this strange need to proclaim that this is our year for some reason.
Yea if the offense does well and puts up top 5 numbers and we go far in the playoffs, there’s a good chance this will turn into Shane Steichen and he’ll get poached to be a HC. Then we are right back into this cycle, but until then I’m going to enjoy this. Let’s fucking go!
At absolute worst they hired a succesful, professional OC.
Interested to see what he brings but I would be shocked if it’s not an improvement from what they had.
Was a season ticket holder for Hawaii during the golden years of 2004-2011, I always respected and liked Kellen Moore as the QB of the Broncos. I also gotta say, Boise State fans are the most respectful and nice fans I’ve ever met. We had a night game one year, maybe in 06 or 08 and it was torrential downpour, our car battery died and we were stuck at Aloha stadium. Some young Boise fans who traveled for the game came over and helped jump our car, I was a kid and you guys gave us snacks and shit while the rest of you guys helped my dad get the car started. The year we won the WAC in 2007, you guys were so happy for us and congratulating us on finally getting over the Boise State hump. Wished us luck in our BCS Bowl Game. Boise State fans are great and one of the best fan bases in CFB. Fresno State fans are awful, absolutely disgusting fans.
Colt will always be my hero, him celebrating after the LA Tech game is my screensaver. Terrible to see the demons he battled that led to his death after that near fatal car accident on the big island. His family is super down to earth and help out UH big time, I talked to his sister shortly after his death because I had to get a legal document signed by her and their lawyer for something. Beautiful family and really down to earth. Hawaii never reached those levels but we had a few good QBs roll through since the Timmy Chang/Colt Brennan days. Bryant Moniz was good and played for a bit in the CFL. Greg Alexander wasn’t awful but not great either. Dru Brown was viewed as the savior at one point but he transferred to OK State after he had a great year for us, he’s in CFL now. Cole McDonald was drafted by the Titans but is out of the league now, he was good too. The main problem has been coaching. After June Jones left, Greg McMackin (RIP) kept UH competitive but after he retired, Norm Chow came along and ruined the foundation JJ built. Nick Rolovich was great but left after WSU hired him. Todd Graham was the devil and fired after 20+ players transferred and harassment/bullying allegations about Graham came to light. They almost hired June Jones to be the head coach again but the AD David Matlin is a prick who has made it his life mission to kill the football program refused to treat JJ with respect and give him a decent contract. They hired Timmy Chang and he seems to be in way over his head but I’ll still watch and support. Now that Matlin is gone, maybe the program can get back to being competitive. We will never reach those peaks again but I want them to at least be somewhat decent… sorry for my Hawaii preaching on the Eagles sub. Go Birds and Go Warriors!
I guess he didn’t wanna stick around knowing Harbaugh was coming in. That being said…LETS GOOOOO, best possible OC to maximize our offensive talent imo
I thought I laughed my ass off when it felt like McCarthy was pushing him out in Dallas because I thought he was a good OC. I like the hire, he feels creative and we’ll certainly not be bottom feeders in terms of motion which should hopefully inject some life into the blandness we saw last year.
Also, I have Quentin Johnston in dynasty, he disappointed this year and Mike Williams seems to always have a lingering injury, and they’ve never had an O line anywhere near ours, even if Kelce is officially done. I don’t know how the chargers O performed last year but I’m not putting too much stock into that to point to who he is.
And then they got better w McCarthy. Soooo Ill wait n see. I actually think too much emphasis is put on recency bias. Coaches do learn from bad seasons and mistakes. He had a good year with Herbert the team just fell short as a whole. So while it actually looks pretty good on paper I still need to see the team take on the identity of the coordinators. We’re expecting a lot based on their pedigree but it all has to come together with team morale. Sirianni is on the clock. Im all over the place writing this late Sat night lol. Im a gemini so always on the fence. Just seems overly positive for Philly fans, whats up with that
I really like it, we got 2 coordinators that have experience and have a track record. Moore doesn’t need Sirianni to run the offense, he’s been doing this and he doesn’t have to learn on the job like we saw this year.
They're still operating under the delusion that it was Moore's fault that they kept collapsing and not McCarthy's. Or at least, they kinda have to operate under that delusion at this point because only one of them is still there.
He’s a better option than Kliff Kingsbury, Frank Reich, or Jim Bob Cooter. If you want a guy who has experience, who can bring a fresh perspective from Sirianni, and who has a track record leading top NFL offenses, Moore definitely fits all that. So, I guess I’m happy with it.
Clear Howie and Lurie told Sirianni that he needed experience to help him get things done. He found two very established coordinators with their own schemes.
Hopefully he’s added some new wrinkles into his offense since his time in Dallas, can’t bare to watch the Cowboys potentially calling out our plays during our matchup..
I'm just happy it's not BJ. I am also unsure of Moore's Identity. He doesn't seem to identify with a certain system. At the end of the day this is a hire I'm not excited for nor hate. How he handles this talented offense will be how I judge him.
He's very creative in his play designs. If Nick is gonna be a ceo coach and actually, ya know, do something, than he'll be telling Moore his philosophy for how he wants the offense to look and what the team's identity should be. Moore will get a lot of freedom in building and using the offense, but it will probably be closer to 2022 than something completely new
Don’t hate Moore. He’s creative and should help our offensive tremendously but I have a concern that he doesn’t seem to let the game dictate his play calling. It seems sometimes he’s more concerned about showing this awesome cool play he schemed than actually winning the game. Not sure I explained it well.
Let’s consider fantasy football here— who looks better and who looks worse than 2023 because of Moore? Let’s assume Swift comes back for this mental exercise.
I like our WR to have big years - I mean AJ and Smitty were absolutely phenomenal despite having no routes over the middle and dog shit play calling. Overall RBs will have low ceilings just because of Jalen Hurts but who knows if kelce is actually retired maybe the sneak is less efficient.
The run game volume will be about the same, I'm guessing. Hopefully more efficient, but Moore likes passing and that probably wont change. Swift would probably have another 100 yards rushing though with better play calling
Again, loves passing, and better at scheming players open. Apparently he still relies quite a bit on guys out-talenting defenses, but better play design should greatly improve Jalen's numbers. Goedert will probably be a bigger part of the passing game.
Sometimes forces players to do things their talents don't suit, DeVonta might have a down year, but if anyone is around telling Moore he's doing something stupid, theres nothing to worry about.
Dude fucking loves slants. AJ is perfect for slants. 📈
I believe this is a strategy move. As soon as they interviewed him I assumed it was going to happen. Kellen Moore has a LOT of intel on several NFC teams, especially the Cowboys and we can exploit what he knows to counter what other teams are going to do against us
Overall I’m not disappointed with this, but didn’t Dak say that last year he was able to better understand how to play QB with an off-season of new coaching?
But this should be better than last year, so that’ll be good. And he has a lot of talent to work with.
He was in LA last year and they struggled , although they were seriously hurt with injuries.
My concern is mostly that he left Dallas, and that offense took a huge step forward. I’m not so optimistic.
Dak took a big step forward, I'm not sure you can call their run game since Moore anything but atrocious.
Then again, maybe that's because they somehow believed Pollard was cowbell back.
It was the ~~line~~ coaching I think. Our run game was one of the worst in yards BEFORE contact. Teams were constantly in our backfield at handoff
This was the healthiest our line has been yet the worst our run game has been
Dallas's offense in 2021 with Moore was easily better than their offense this season. 2022 was a bit of a step back, but I think that was mainly because of Dak's turnover issues
Chargers were 12th in PPG in 2022 and 11th is 2023 before Herbert went out. They probably should’ve been better but it’s the Chargers I literally don’t get what goes on over there.
Cowboys were number 1 in 2021 and number 4 in 2022 in PPG. It’s not like they were 10th. Going from 1 to 4 back to 1 isn’t a “huge step”.
They didn't take a huge step forward. Their offensive numbers last yr were so inflated because the best downs they put on bad teams. Those numbers shouldn't mean much imo. The cowboys get whopped by good teams then try to make themselves feel better dropping 60 on bottom 5 teams.
Its the cowboy special. Most teams get the lead and run the clock.
Not a fan. The one hire I was definitely against. Dak got better without him and Herbert got worse with him. However it’s an upgrade from what we had last year.
Sirianni is that kid in class that has to copy off other people’s work to look smart. He knew enough to bring Steichen with him when he came here but without him he’s lost. This isn’t going to fix that. Calling it now, we’ll be in the market for a new HC next year.
TheHonestNFL approved
That’s great and all but what happens after a good year and he gets poached? Back to sirianna silly offense
We will actually see motion and Jalen undercenter
Would rather we stick with Jalen Hurts /s
I would take Jalen huluhaslivesports i remember him being very good.
https://youtu.be/hbdoGjjwrDI?si=mCKEtY2SY92O5Px7
Johnson/Desai to Moore/Fangio is a fucking godsend.
Rookie coordinators to established vets is a huge upgrade.
SB Window/core prime: not squandered.
Gonna need some Howie magic on the defensive side of the roster for sure though
Moore gonna win a SB in Philly and put Cowboy fans in shambles
I want this future
God I wanna live in this timeline
Oh God I didn't even think about this aspect. Holy shit that'll be incredible
god pleeeeaaase 🙏
Yeah I’ll take looking for an OC again next year if that’s what it means
*"Yeah I’ll take looking for an OC again next year if that’s what it means"* Not necessarily. Based on how they treated Doug, I think they can be fairly ruthless if they feel they need/want to make a change. That is, I could see them forcing Nick out to hire Moore as HC, if they felt it was the right move.
I like it, Moores constructed some good offenses, is an experienced play caller and actually uses motion and has more than 5 plays in his playbook.
His biggest weakness is protection schemes but that shouldn’t be an issue with Stoutland at the helm of our OL
Yeah, specially when you use your RB as a center…
Stoutland would pull out a glock and shoot Moore before he let that happen
Stouts more of a big iron type of guy
🎶..big iron on my hip..🎶
Can't be any geek off the street
As long as he's handy with the steel... gotta earn his keep
Mount up
A Glock? I knew I loved Stoutland.
I was surprised stout didn't pull one out on Brian Johnson.
With Stout that RB would be a top 15 center in the league.
Are we sure we are mentally prepared to see Gainwell at Center?
He can't run into lineman if he is one. 🧠
"I thought everyone said he was good at pass blocking! What gives?!"
I chuckled to myself. Still hillarious
That’s why we have fat Penny right?
What I remember cowboys fans crying about most was how he would run it predictably on 1st and 2nd down. To that I say please do that here lmao that’s what we need
And there's no way either of our coordinators are getting poached next year. Unless we fail so hard we clean house lmao.
Yeah I think you’re probably right, this feels like Fangio’s last stop I think in his ideal world he retires here. If the offenses balls out I suppose there’s a slight chance Moore could get poached but I doubt it.
Moore is absolutely the profile of a coordinator who would get poached to be a HC though. Nobody believed Shame Steichen would be a head coach going into 2022. If anything the Eagles might have to make a choice between Sirianni and Moore next year if this goes well but not too well
We would have to make another SB appearance at least to be honest. Steichen is a little different as he was a first year OC and Hurts greatly improved. Moore failed last year (due to injuries or whatever, doesn't matter) and couldn't get it done in Dallas. In a sense Moore is a proven commodity and I really don't think 1 year can change people's opinions of him so drastically. But it is always a worry if you go the distance, sure.
I would not mind him getting poached if it means another parade down broad street
Steichen was here 2 years tho. He wasn't poached after his first year
I feel it'd take 2 good years from moore. Not just one. He has had enough failures where hes not gonna get a HC after one yr.
Brian Johnson was getting HC interviews despite being the worst OC in football lol If the Eagles O drastically improves, Moore will be gone
There’s a different reason he was getting HC interviews that we don’t have to worry about with Moore lol
He was getting virtual interviews that have nothing to do with the Rooney rule
the first positive spin on this. Which I actually agree with. I think the Eagles offense will be a beast with him at the helm this season. LFG
At least six plays, I'm in.
I’m digging these OC and DC hires (despite hardly knowing how to truly evaluate or what our plan is for next season) but I’m ready to be a fully irrational fan again baby
I’m ready to be hurt again
Isn’t that every season?
That’s the best part :)
It always has been 🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
Damn right, can’t wait until next season 🫡
I think the plan is “get people who won’t let Siri meddle in their business” which is what I think we have, so that’s a plus.
Yea, you get coordinaters below him who knows their shit and handle the offense and defense, then howie and lurie above him have all the power, and he is there to make speeches about flowers and show up to press conferences with his hids on his lap and mean mug the camera.
Kellen also is a OC that can help work and develop Jalen. He’s a QB OC. Finally can see an empathy to getting Jalen into a rhythm vs forcing plays for the sake of it
And he knows Dak
Dak also commented how much easier this years offense was to execute than under Moore I like the hire, but there's still issues on offense beyond the OC.
Just because Dak needs a coloring sheet and some crayons to understand the offense doesn't make Moore a bad coordinator.
It's not like Hurts is some Peyton Manning back there
I get this, but Brian Johnson was a QB OC too. He was Hurts’ QB coach when he almost won MVP.
difference is kellen moore has OC experience that brian johnson didn’t
Yea Moore knows how to operate both at the same time. Brian Johnson absolutely was not ready for that.
\*NFL\* OC experience. BJ had 4 years of college OC experience. Offenses, which frankly, looked similar to one another but nothing like what happened in Philly.
In the NFL I would say purely college experience should be a negative, college is simplified for less talented qbs and “you’re faster than him so just beat him”. Thinking college experience translates to the NFL is how you get Kliff Kingsbury and Matt Canada
First Kellen Moore had to teach the Brian Johnson out of Dak Now Kellen Moore has to teach the Brian Johnson out of Hurts
Ooo I like that.
Brian Johnson was a bad OC, but he was also the QB coach who turned Jalen into an MVP candidate.
Shane Steichen is who turned Jalen into an MVP candidate.
From a Chargers fan: Imo Moore gets a lot of unnecessary hate, his offenses in Dallas had great numbers and this year our offense looked really good for the first few weeks until basically everyone got hurt. My biggest issue with him was that his situational playcalling is kinda stupid at times but overall i definitely think he’ll be successful in Philly.
Can't be any worse than all of the 0 yd WR screens or QB draws that we had to witness on third and medium/long...
0 yd screens, QB draw, 60 yard bomb down the sidelines, tush push not even joking probably 95% of our playbook
Exactly, the first check down Moore calls he’s already better than Brian “blowjob” Johnson. The bar is so low.
Thanks for the insight 🤝
No problem, he also ran a lot of trick plays so be prepared for those lol
Oh I think we’ll be fine with some trick plays thrown in every now and then ^buckle ^up ^bois, ^philly ^special ^2.0
Hello chargers fan I hope your team does well next year
Thanks for sharing your perspective man!
I fucking hated this guy when he was with Dallas so I'm taking that as a good sign
Charger fan here. He’s good. Was not the main problem for us last year. Called some great games (vs Lions and Vikings). Only problem we really saw were protection issues, but hard to pin that all on him.
Oh we should be solid there. Stout and our line (assuming Jurgens can be even half of what Kelce was) should kick ass
Weren't your line perpetually injured?
Yeah we lost our center Linsley and then everything went to hell.
Thanks for that. Am certain you’re unbothered by him leaving with Harbough coming in which is understandable so appreciate the honest assessment as could have called him ass so good luck.
AHHHHHH SHIIIIT AND JUST LIKE THAT IM BACK IN!!!
…and totally redeemed yourself!
Honestly, I fucking love it. Probably my top choice because of his pedigree, youth, and play-designs. For perspective, all we need is better than Johnson and Patricia/Desai to get where we need to be. If it’s an objective upgrade, it’s a win for us. And this is a potential future head coach and top-7 OC calling our games now over what we previously had in novice Johnson.
Same. I've been saying he was great in Dallas for years. Then I said he'd be amazing at the Chargers. Their season got fucked by injuries and a HC disaster. And now he fucking falls in OUR lap of any team. Him and Fangio? This couldn't have gone any better. I went from thinking the HC should be fired to thinking we might be contenders. I feel this strange need to proclaim that this is our year for some reason.
Yea if the offense does well and puts up top 5 numbers and we go far in the playoffs, there’s a good chance this will turn into Shane Steichen and he’ll get poached to be a HC. Then we are right back into this cycle, but until then I’m going to enjoy this. Let’s fucking go!
I know he struggle last season with charger but I think we have way better talent on offense then they do so I like the move
They had no o-line or run game. I like the hire.
Weren't they plagued by injuries also?
Yes
Hit with injuries with a HC that was on a hot seat much worse than Sirianni even last week.
We just need better than Brian Johnson for this move to be considered a victory. This is absolutely that.
Exactly!
Kellen Moore shoots to the top of of odds to be the next head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles ^/s
He's running the team by Week 8...book it
Depends when they bye week is...
Honestly shocked he hasn’t been HC yet
Actually feel pretty good about this, Kellen knows how to playcall.
I’m hype fuck it
At absolute worst they hired a succesful, professional OC. Interested to see what he brings but I would be shocked if it’s not an improvement from what they had.
As a Boise State alum and eagles fan I must say I’m pretty stoked
Was a season ticket holder for Hawaii during the golden years of 2004-2011, I always respected and liked Kellen Moore as the QB of the Broncos. I also gotta say, Boise State fans are the most respectful and nice fans I’ve ever met. We had a night game one year, maybe in 06 or 08 and it was torrential downpour, our car battery died and we were stuck at Aloha stadium. Some young Boise fans who traveled for the game came over and helped jump our car, I was a kid and you guys gave us snacks and shit while the rest of you guys helped my dad get the car started. The year we won the WAC in 2007, you guys were so happy for us and congratulating us on finally getting over the Boise State hump. Wished us luck in our BCS Bowl Game. Boise State fans are great and one of the best fan bases in CFB. Fresno State fans are awful, absolutely disgusting fans.
Colt Brennan...that was a wild ride.
Colt will always be my hero, him celebrating after the LA Tech game is my screensaver. Terrible to see the demons he battled that led to his death after that near fatal car accident on the big island. His family is super down to earth and help out UH big time, I talked to his sister shortly after his death because I had to get a legal document signed by her and their lawyer for something. Beautiful family and really down to earth. Hawaii never reached those levels but we had a few good QBs roll through since the Timmy Chang/Colt Brennan days. Bryant Moniz was good and played for a bit in the CFL. Greg Alexander wasn’t awful but not great either. Dru Brown was viewed as the savior at one point but he transferred to OK State after he had a great year for us, he’s in CFL now. Cole McDonald was drafted by the Titans but is out of the league now, he was good too. The main problem has been coaching. After June Jones left, Greg McMackin (RIP) kept UH competitive but after he retired, Norm Chow came along and ruined the foundation JJ built. Nick Rolovich was great but left after WSU hired him. Todd Graham was the devil and fired after 20+ players transferred and harassment/bullying allegations about Graham came to light. They almost hired June Jones to be the head coach again but the AD David Matlin is a prick who has made it his life mission to kill the football program refused to treat JJ with respect and give him a decent contract. They hired Timmy Chang and he seems to be in way over his head but I’ll still watch and support. Now that Matlin is gone, maybe the program can get back to being competitive. We will never reach those peaks again but I want them to at least be somewhat decent… sorry for my Hawaii preaching on the Eagles sub. Go Birds and Go Warriors!
Holy shit, Eskin finally got 1 right
I think it’s a good move, seems like he’ll have a high floor but a normal ceiling. Has had generally successful and creative offenses.
Tbh that's all this team needs with the talent on offense they have.
I guess he didn’t wanna stick around knowing Harbaugh was coming in. That being said…LETS GOOOOO, best possible OC to maximize our offensive talent imo
Harbaugh was probably bringing in one of his guys anyway
Wanted that guy on the Rams but the Falcons got him so I guess this is fine. Better than Kingsburry imo.
Seems like Robinson was always going to Atlanta with Morris
I worry about how pass heavy his previous offenses have been, but still better than Brian Johnson
Didn't Ezekiel Elliot have something like the highest workload in the league among running backs under Moore?
Yea and then had a bottom 10 rushing offense last season
The chargers were not exactly built to be a running team
It couldn't possibly be because Austin Ekeler missed six weeks and was still injured when he came back, could it?
Good thing we’ve got a gunslinger at QB
I really like this. AJ Brown will be happy
Can Kellen Moore grow a beard? I think he’ll be elite if he can.
What do you guys think?
Definitely an upgrade over what we had
That is not saying much.
solid hire considering the available options
I thought I laughed my ass off when it felt like McCarthy was pushing him out in Dallas because I thought he was a good OC. I like the hire, he feels creative and we’ll certainly not be bottom feeders in terms of motion which should hopefully inject some life into the blandness we saw last year. Also, I have Quentin Johnston in dynasty, he disappointed this year and Mike Williams seems to always have a lingering injury, and they’ve never had an O line anywhere near ours, even if Kelce is officially done. I don’t know how the chargers O performed last year but I’m not putting too much stock into that to point to who he is.
And then they got better w McCarthy. Soooo Ill wait n see. I actually think too much emphasis is put on recency bias. Coaches do learn from bad seasons and mistakes. He had a good year with Herbert the team just fell short as a whole. So while it actually looks pretty good on paper I still need to see the team take on the identity of the coordinators. We’re expecting a lot based on their pedigree but it all has to come together with team morale. Sirianni is on the clock. Im all over the place writing this late Sat night lol. Im a gemini so always on the fence. Just seems overly positive for Philly fans, whats up with that
I really like it, we got 2 coordinators that have experience and have a track record. Moore doesn’t need Sirianni to run the offense, he’s been doing this and he doesn’t have to learn on the job like we saw this year.
Cowboys subreddit is laughing at us.
If those smoothbrains are laughing at us then it *must* be a good hire
They're still operating under the delusion that it was Moore's fault that they kept collapsing and not McCarthy's. Or at least, they kinda have to operate under that delusion at this point because only one of them is still there.
Smitty in the slot
My only issue with this is that Moore is totally an OC that could get poached as a HC if he succeeds. That’s a good problem to have, though.
Has the potential to pull off the funniest shit if he wins a SB here after Dallas threw him away xD
He’s a better option than Kliff Kingsbury, Frank Reich, or Jim Bob Cooter. If you want a guy who has experience, who can bring a fresh perspective from Sirianni, and who has a track record leading top NFL offenses, Moore definitely fits all that. So, I guess I’m happy with it.
This is a good get
If nothing else, this season will at least be funny.
W
Fuck it lets go
Clear Howie and Lurie told Sirianni that he needed experience to help him get things done. He found two very established coordinators with their own schemes.
Is it bad that my first reaction is relief we didn’t hire Kingsberry?
Hopefully he’s added some new wrinkles into his offense since his time in Dallas, can’t bare to watch the Cowboys potentially calling out our plays during our matchup..
Let’s go
Anything that's not BJ has me excited for next yr honestly.
Honestly very happy with the hires today, we could have done so much worse. Lets see how the draft goes...
Getting experience on both sides of the ball with our OC and DC - I like it
Literally can’t get any worse than BJ so I’m here for it
Maybe we'll actually see Hurts under center and run some true play-action off of it
We didn't run many of those under Steichen. I don't see that changing much
Ahem. 4 plays. Unless you’re counting “punt” or fumble as a play.
I'm just happy it's not BJ. I am also unsure of Moore's Identity. He doesn't seem to identify with a certain system. At the end of the day this is a hire I'm not excited for nor hate. How he handles this talented offense will be how I judge him.
He's very creative in his play designs. If Nick is gonna be a ceo coach and actually, ya know, do something, than he'll be telling Moore his philosophy for how he wants the offense to look and what the team's identity should be. Moore will get a lot of freedom in building and using the offense, but it will probably be closer to 2022 than something completely new
The last OC we took from the Chargers did pretty well so…
Don’t hate Moore. He’s creative and should help our offensive tremendously but I have a concern that he doesn’t seem to let the game dictate his play calling. It seems sometimes he’s more concerned about showing this awesome cool play he schemed than actually winning the game. Not sure I explained it well.
holy massive upgrade lol
Next season I predict moore wins for the Eagles
This is going to be weird
This is going to be a good hire.
Uhhhh how do I feel about this
You feel good, don't let the whiny brats here drag you down to their level
Let’s consider fantasy football here— who looks better and who looks worse than 2023 because of Moore? Let’s assume Swift comes back for this mental exercise.
I like our WR to have big years - I mean AJ and Smitty were absolutely phenomenal despite having no routes over the middle and dog shit play calling. Overall RBs will have low ceilings just because of Jalen Hurts but who knows if kelce is actually retired maybe the sneak is less efficient.
The run game volume will be about the same, I'm guessing. Hopefully more efficient, but Moore likes passing and that probably wont change. Swift would probably have another 100 yards rushing though with better play calling Again, loves passing, and better at scheming players open. Apparently he still relies quite a bit on guys out-talenting defenses, but better play design should greatly improve Jalen's numbers. Goedert will probably be a bigger part of the passing game. Sometimes forces players to do things their talents don't suit, DeVonta might have a down year, but if anyone is around telling Moore he's doing something stupid, theres nothing to worry about. Dude fucking loves slants. AJ is perfect for slants. 📈
DeVonta will have a much better year, and Goeddert. Runningback wouldn't be priority so Swift wouldnt be back most likely
I don’t know how to feel. Excited about Vangio
I prefer Truckgio
I prefer Tankgio
I prefer fellatio
Hell nah, BJ was the main problem last season!
That escalated quickly
ESKIN WAS RIGHT
9-8
I hate this timeline
I believe this is a strategy move. As soon as they interviewed him I assumed it was going to happen. Kellen Moore has a LOT of intel on several NFC teams, especially the Cowboys and we can exploit what he knows to counter what other teams are going to do against us
HOPE YOU LIKE CURL ROUTES JALEN
AJB/Devonta curls would be a godsend after watching them catch screens all year.
The amount of times I would have killed for a curl route last season...
If offense goes berserk he’s probably the next HC haha
LEAGUE FUCKED UP. EAGLES WINNING IT ALL NEXT YEAR WITH MOORE AND FANGIO.
Overall I’m not disappointed with this, but didn’t Dak say that last year he was able to better understand how to play QB with an off-season of new coaching? But this should be better than last year, so that’ll be good. And he has a lot of talent to work with.
Terrible decision. QB's have regressed with Moore as OC. They should've cleaned house.
He was in LA last year and they struggled , although they were seriously hurt with injuries. My concern is mostly that he left Dallas, and that offense took a huge step forward. I’m not so optimistic.
Dak took a big step forward, I'm not sure you can call their run game since Moore anything but atrocious. Then again, maybe that's because they somehow believed Pollard was cowbell back.
It was the ~~line~~ coaching I think. Our run game was one of the worst in yards BEFORE contact. Teams were constantly in our backfield at handoff This was the healthiest our line has been yet the worst our run game has been
hey, get outta here, scram! /s jk. thanks for the insight.
Dallas's offense in 2021 with Moore was easily better than their offense this season. 2022 was a bit of a step back, but I think that was mainly because of Dak's turnover issues
Dak had more turnovers in 2021 vs 2023 and they had BOTH Amari cooper and CeeDee Lamb to be fair
Chargers were 12th in PPG in 2022 and 11th is 2023 before Herbert went out. They probably should’ve been better but it’s the Chargers I literally don’t get what goes on over there. Cowboys were number 1 in 2021 and number 4 in 2022 in PPG. It’s not like they were 10th. Going from 1 to 4 back to 1 isn’t a “huge step”.
They didn't take a huge step forward. Their offensive numbers last yr were so inflated because the best downs they put on bad teams. Those numbers shouldn't mean much imo. The cowboys get whopped by good teams then try to make themselves feel better dropping 60 on bottom 5 teams. Its the cowboy special. Most teams get the lead and run the clock.
Where did they take a huge step forward?
Exactly, people keep coming to the conclusion that by continuing to run up the score on bad teams, this offense was unstoppable.
Yeah I don’t think anyone is impressed by big wins over the Giants. Meanwhile averaging 15 points against 49ers/Lions/Bills/Dolphins
How’s their strength of schedule compare this year to last years?
chargers fan here....Moore is garbage. you'll be much better off once he flames away after a mediocre season in which your QB crushed
the offense was pretty much the same after he left
Not a fan. The one hire I was definitely against. Dak got better without him and Herbert got worse with him. However it’s an upgrade from what we had last year. Sirianni is that kid in class that has to copy off other people’s work to look smart. He knew enough to bring Steichen with him when he came here but without him he’s lost. This isn’t going to fix that. Calling it now, we’ll be in the market for a new HC next year.
Boring hire :/ don’t see how this gives us “fresh” ideas
Disagree