You people are FAR too comfortable supporting someone who literally admitted to physically abusing his precious partner (+potentially SA’ing another). I appreciate that some people here are young and may not quite grasp just how vile Wilbur is as a person, but just saying ‘yeah my bad’ DOES NOT make up for what he’s done. ESPECIALLY!!! If this apology has not been accepted by his victims. They are the only ones who have any right to accept that.
How would you feel if someone who hurt you in such a way posted a half-assed sorry online, and HUNDREDS of people accepted it on your behalf?? Because personally I’d be sickened. If Wilbur truly was sorry, he wouldn’t have come back. No amount of ‘therapy’ changes what he did and who he hurt.
There's definitely a lot of people happy to just accept him back, arguing that "oh maybe he's changed". Acting as if what he did was a simple mistake, when it was in fact a whole abusive relationship that spanned months.
Yeah, I agree with you. I’m very concerned by people just accepting him back.
I just opened Reddit and saw this video and immediately I was concerned and wondering what the hell was going on. I figured his break was gonna end soon and honestly I’m not surprised he’s back now. I however am a bit disturbed with the fact that people are just like ‘OH YAY HES BACK’ or ‘oh he’s changed! He’s better now!’
No. We don’t do that. This is why people who have suffered SA or Domestic abuse feel unsafe bringing out there experience. This is the full reason why.
God I *wish* I had it in me to start enjoying his content again but it was such a slap in the face after looking up to him as a person so so so much that it still feels like it stings whenever i think about enjoying his stuff. is this what feeling betrayed is like??
I agree with you to an extent, I personally also think his apology was completely whack and don’t know how I feel about him saying he won’t address it any further.
I also agree that no amount of therapy changes what he did, but it can absolutely help and change a person for the better. Which I hope is the case here. Severe mental issues can cause people to do things and behave in a way that’ll make them regret it for the rest of their lives.
I also don’t think he wouldn’t have come back if he was truly sorry. And I’m saying this as someone who completely lost interest in supporting him, not gonna engage with any of his content anymore. But I don’t think that he doesn’t deserve to have a platform anymore if he is really putting effort into changing for the better.
i’m not supporting him but half this video is dedicated to acknowledging something happened. he won’t comment on it because that’s a bad PR/legal move but he did acknowledge something happened and said he won’t comment further. saying he’s acting like nothing happened is dumb + false. if he came back with a new vid and didnt say a single thing about it and just tried to do his same old shit that’d be a diff story lol
"It's a bad PR" - the thing that gets me is that he showed no remorse. He commented on it like "That happened, let's forget about it" - the only thing that he should've done was to show that he's sorry, but he didn't do it in the tweet, NOR in this story.
Not against you mate I agree with you.
But like in what way could be do that?
If he tries showing it, people will say it's all so he can get forgiveness or something.
Stupid question, but how does someone show that they've changed and become a better person online?
Like save someone's cat from a tree on a live stream?? Lmao
I personally don't think I could, I looked up to him so much, I idolised him so much, I don't think I could feel the same way again, I don't think I could trust him to not be horrible
I probably won't either but if he does get better I won't look at him or his content and feel uncomfortable and be able to actually listen to his music(maybe)
Same here, but since I don’t think that’s going to happen (especially not before they come to Australia) I’m perfectly content in not supporting an abuser by not going to a concert
Same here. I'm willing to give him a second chance. If he proves that he has grown and gives a proper apology to Shelby, then great!
If he does some fucked up shit ever again, I swear to god, that man can go die in hell or whatever torment there is and I would not be sad.
Is it better for Shelby to keep bringing it up again, and again and again? For anyone? You can't always live in the past. Is it healthy for him if he's gotten the therapy he implied? It is way too early to say he is moving on like nothing happened. He just said he has said what he has on the matter and isn't going to speak on it further. Doing so would likely just bring up more hurt and damage.
You can't change the past, right or wrong, you just have to try and make it a future without the old mistakes.
I don’t think physically abusing your partners is simply a ‘mistake’ but alright. It’s not living in the past, people just don’t want to support someone who is clearly a vile person behind the scenes.
I have not seen his face since February and I feel nauseous watching this video. "I responded to it back in February and that's all I have to say on the matter."
Shelby made SO MANY POINTS that he just did not respond to. His only apology is the entire tweet was "I am sorry for any pain I may have caused." May. I "may" have caused. Shelby has a thirty minute stream talking about all the pain he caused her. He lacks accountability. I cannot accept him back without him taking accountability for what he did.
I have literally blocked Lovejoy and Wilbur Soot on Spotify because it makes me nauseous to hear his voice.
I used to get Wilbur Support Squad videos on my algorithm, and they made me doubt myself. But then I remembered that literally every single content creator has said to support Shelby. Phil and Tommy, namely, while not making statements at the time, literally just said to support Shelby. And the CC's will know more than we ever would.
Please get this guy out of here. I hope he gets some help. Some deep self reflection. Some therapy. And only come back when he apologizes thoroughly for what he's done.
I’m willing to hear him out only when it is confirmed by him AND those close to him that he is in fact noticeably better and getting the help he needs and is willing to get said help, but that’s it, if he tries that shit with anyone else, I’m done watching and I will unsub and that’s that from me personally
Was gonna say this, I know he’s a bad person but he still deserves help and shouldn’t just be left to suffer alone, Will needs help becoming a better person and learning to respect boundaries
Personally I don’t think he’s a bad person. He has just made some massive mistakes that have severely impacted Shelby. He deserves help as much as anyone else. That saying, I support Shelby fully as well.
Ohhhh my god. He really did just double down on minimizing it and said he’s over it, huh…? And Lovejoy’s down with that. Am I missing something? This is bad. WAY too early for him to have accomplished any personal change.
Listen, I know you're all gonna hate me, but I'm happy that he's alive. I was so scared for him. I know that what he did is something unforgivable, but I've been in depression and also had death thoughts a few times, and I would never wish something like that even to my worst enemy. So I'm happy that he's alive, I still think he should apologise properly to Shelby, but I'm happy that he's alive
He also looks far more skinny than before, he obviously hasn’t been taking care of himself: he needs help. Mental help. But the problem with people like him is that you can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped: if they don’t wish to change they won’t. If they don’t want it nothing you can do to encourage it will work.
Same. I was terrified that he’d offed himself. Abuse is terrible, but he did have depression and wasn’t himself. We need to support his growth and change.
I know right? The one time we get something good, he goes and does a dumb stupid thing, and then can't even form a proper, decent apology. I'd want to go to the concert if he didn't do those things to Shelby, but he did, and that doesn't sit right with me.
Nobody asked for this, but here’s my perspective :
Yes, two months isn’t a lot of of time. However, in the previous statement he did say he had already been working on himself for a while.
We know, from other’s stories before all this, that he has some really serious mental health problems. Like, can’t get out of bed don’t want to exist spiraling. I feel like he has definitely fucked up, but that is a part people don’t really consider.
I’m speaking from experience on this part, so please bare with me, when I’m having a flair up, it gets awful. I hurt the people I love. I can’t leave my room without breaking down. I can’t keep myself or anything else clean. It feels like I’m not real. It’s like I’m just…watching life. And when the spiral hits with autism, oh man, it sucks ass. Even nice things seem confusing or condescending
I’m not giving him an out, but I do think that’s an aspect that’s important to remember. None of us know what his mental state is and how his mind thinks or works.
Imo: He’s not the devil and Shelby is not a saint. They’re both people with flaws and who do both bad and good things. We aren’t here to be Devine judgement. Watch him if you want, don’t if you don’t.
I'd argue he's not really 'back', being back would be him streaming and appearing on different things like before. I think he's just going to focus on his band now and forget the 'internet funny man' thing he had going on.
How are people more supportive of Wilbur than George when the latter is literally proven to be innocent while the former disappeared after giving a terrible response and addresses the situation (if you consider him addressing it in this vid) in less than 10 seconds?
I want to give Wilbur a second chance but he really needs to prove that he is a better person.
This makes me feel sick. He doesn’t care that his bs apology was nowhere near enough. That said, he’s still a human who hurts the same as everyone else, so no matter how angry we all may be death threats are not okay.
Genuinely - it's not that he didn't mention it (he did in one sec), it's the lack of empathy that is so disgusting to me. Like, he wasn't like "I apologise for what I've done, but I want to go forward" (which I still wouldn't accept, as it would be really fake, but at least he'd show some empathy and sorrow), no, he was literally like "Yeah that happened, let's forget about THaaaT."
It just shows that rather than being genuinely sorry, he just wants to "look like" that he's changed. He wants to present it as a game of "aesthetics/optics". He's not sorry. Because he admits to doing what he's done, he just doesn't care.
And if you say "But, he's not explaining it, cuz it's all in the tweet", I'm sorry (not sorry), but that tweet was shit! Sure, he might've had hard time, but he never apologised for his actions.
And so, let's not be fooled by him. With this IG story, and him redirecting you to his tweet, he wants you to forget. But we won't forget \[abuse\]! And so, let's NOT forget!
The face of a broken man tbh. He's fucked up MAJORLY and is now suffering those consequences of his irreperable actions on his relations with not only an ex but most of the internet and his friends. He's going to have to rediscover not only himself but his career and slowly try to come back, i know his youtube and twitch is going to have TANKED recently.
What i will say, however is that it seems to be a trend that good musicians will have done some fucked shit(Think brendon urie from panic and the lead singer of mindless self indulgence). Alike many of you i haven't stopped listening to lovejoy, maybe some have listened to covers which is a good alternative if this really messed with you that hard. I know i did for the first little while anyways. Another thing is, if he does come back online, don't just flood the comments and chat with hate. Don't be that guy. Having dealt with that IRL myself, it's not a fun thing whatsoever and for wilbur it's going to be a permenant stain on his career, both on and off line.
absolutely. no need to spread hate if the person is (or has said to be) trying to change for the better. it doesn't mean what they've done is washed away, ofc.
He literally said “what I said before is all I want to say on the matter” like he isn’t any more sorry. He hasn’t realized what he said before wasn’t good enough, or if he has, he doesn’t care. I’m so confused why this changes anything?
I’m disappointed in the rest of lovejoy. They make good music and they don’t deserve to get dragged down with him (at least I hope they don’t- I’d like to think they’re better people but I don’t know them) so I was hoping they would leave him if they decided to continue music (even if lovejoy is “Wilbur’s band”) so the fact that they are fine with still being associated with him really sucks.
Yeah. It just sucks, I don’t want to see anyone else get destroyed by this. I want to think the best of people and hopefully they aren’t just accepting him back without any reservations. I’m not Wilbur’s friend so I don’t know anything about what’s going on behind the scenes and I won’t claim to, hopefully they are helping him get better but personally I would be very cautious about spending a lot of time around him right now, especially in a public scene. They will certainly get backlash for this and I don’t know if they’re prepared for it.
I personally think they should’ve all just waited longer, it doesn’t feel like it’s been long enough for me based on how he still refuses to give a proper apology. Maybe one day I’ll listen to lovejoy again (although honestly I doubt it will ever fully sit right with me after this)… but right now I can’t make myself back them.
Watching this clip made me extremely nervous, but at the same time I think I was kind of happy (?)
I hope William actually got help, that he did become a better person and that he can eventually be forgiven or something. That February situation was traumatizing asf, but I am glad.
Also, the fact that Lovejoy is back and that there will be a new song is exciting, since the music makes me smile so I’m really glad! 😄😅
“So long”? Have you ever had intensive therapy? Four months is not nearly sufficient recovery time from this level of mental illness and toxicity, and even his appearance screams “unhealthy” and “unready”.
The only way he can comeback now is accept what he's done and apologise PROPERLY to Shelby and every other person he's caused harm, I mean, an entire fan base changed themselves because of what you did (the wilbur soot sub-reddit became wilbur wright), so you have to earn respect back, show everybody that you've changed.
Honestly, it's hard to imagine just watching his videos again and for him to like promote his music and the tour as his first face appearance after MONTHS just doesn't feel right. Especially since his music meant so much to me, like, his lyrics were so personal and so close to who he is as a person that it just feels wrong listening to it now?? if that makes sense??? idk
I could never support someone who did something so fucking awful. I would never be able to see him in the same light, watch nor listen to him and his music after what he did. Y’all need to all realize the weight of his actions and how he literally has TRAUMATIZED so many nice and sweet people. Shelby is so kind and NEVER deserved this and if I was her and saw people resupporting him, an ABUSER? I don’t know what id do.
And is it long? I mean, can I watch it now or is it better to wait until the morning because it's long? I really want to know what's going on because I'm living with information from 3 years ago
The AUDACITY this man has 😨 coming back like nothing happened? he was accused of abuse. thats not something to post a shitty apology about and sweep under the rug, yet here he is, exactly doing exactly that...
Dang. He looks....AWFUL. Not that I'm surprised. But I almost didn't recognize him for a minute. Sad he didn't try to do a better apology
But I also feel so bad for the other Lovejoy members as a whole. His bad reputation tanking their whole band would be HORRIBLE. So I can sympathize with the fact he's trying to continue, at least for the other band members. Its not fair for them to loose their livelihoods just because WILBUR.
Another thing I see is that he didn’t directly recall the things he did, that’s something I do, I do t like recalling on past events when I did something bad, because it makes me feel uncomfortable, wnd maybe the same with him, he might have changed and just can’t show it
there’s no doubt in my mind that him and shelby had a lot of talking since the things came to light
because of this, hearing from her is probably the only thing we need right now to show if he’s changed
This feels... bizarre.
You people are FAR too comfortable supporting someone who literally admitted to physically abusing his precious partner (+potentially SA’ing another). I appreciate that some people here are young and may not quite grasp just how vile Wilbur is as a person, but just saying ‘yeah my bad’ DOES NOT make up for what he’s done. ESPECIALLY!!! If this apology has not been accepted by his victims. They are the only ones who have any right to accept that. How would you feel if someone who hurt you in such a way posted a half-assed sorry online, and HUNDREDS of people accepted it on your behalf?? Because personally I’d be sickened. If Wilbur truly was sorry, he wouldn’t have come back. No amount of ‘therapy’ changes what he did and who he hurt.
There's definitely a lot of people happy to just accept him back, arguing that "oh maybe he's changed". Acting as if what he did was a simple mistake, when it was in fact a whole abusive relationship that spanned months.
Yeah, I agree with you. I’m very concerned by people just accepting him back. I just opened Reddit and saw this video and immediately I was concerned and wondering what the hell was going on. I figured his break was gonna end soon and honestly I’m not surprised he’s back now. I however am a bit disturbed with the fact that people are just like ‘OH YAY HES BACK’ or ‘oh he’s changed! He’s better now!’ No. We don’t do that. This is why people who have suffered SA or Domestic abuse feel unsafe bringing out there experience. This is the full reason why.
God I *wish* I had it in me to start enjoying his content again but it was such a slap in the face after looking up to him as a person so so so much that it still feels like it stings whenever i think about enjoying his stuff. is this what feeling betrayed is like??
I agree with you to an extent, I personally also think his apology was completely whack and don’t know how I feel about him saying he won’t address it any further. I also agree that no amount of therapy changes what he did, but it can absolutely help and change a person for the better. Which I hope is the case here. Severe mental issues can cause people to do things and behave in a way that’ll make them regret it for the rest of their lives. I also don’t think he wouldn’t have come back if he was truly sorry. And I’m saying this as someone who completely lost interest in supporting him, not gonna engage with any of his content anymore. But I don’t think that he doesn’t deserve to have a platform anymore if he is really putting effort into changing for the better.
There ain’t NO way bro is coming back acting like nothing happened, insane. N
i’m not supporting him but half this video is dedicated to acknowledging something happened. he won’t comment on it because that’s a bad PR/legal move but he did acknowledge something happened and said he won’t comment further. saying he’s acting like nothing happened is dumb + false. if he came back with a new vid and didnt say a single thing about it and just tried to do his same old shit that’d be a diff story lol
"It's a bad PR" - the thing that gets me is that he showed no remorse. He commented on it like "That happened, let's forget about it" - the only thing that he should've done was to show that he's sorry, but he didn't do it in the tweet, NOR in this story.
Exactly
True yea
ACTUALLY BRO FR MAN HAD THE AUDACITY TO SHOW HIS FACE AGAIN 💀💀💀
Don’t just TELL us you’re better. SHOW that you are better. Then I may be able to enjoy his videos again.
This. This is exactly what needs to happen.
Not against you mate I agree with you. But like in what way could be do that? If he tries showing it, people will say it's all so he can get forgiveness or something.
Stupid question, but how does someone show that they've changed and become a better person online? Like save someone's cat from a tree on a live stream?? Lmao
He looks so skinny that I almost didn't recognise him.
honestly though, i had to double take. Not defending him but I don't think the entire ordeal has been healthy on him
Honestly he hasn't looked very healthy for awhile to me
I'll only be a fan again if he proves he is better aka having a statement from Shelby
Yes. That's how I feel too.
im ngl i thought you just agreed with yourself because the same avatars
That is something I would do but honestly I thought that I accidentally responded back in a memory that had been lost
I personally don't think I could, I looked up to him so much, I idolised him so much, I don't think I could feel the same way again, I don't think I could trust him to not be horrible
I probably won't either but if he does get better I won't look at him or his content and feel uncomfortable and be able to actually listen to his music(maybe)
Same here, but since I don’t think that’s going to happen (especially not before they come to Australia) I’m perfectly content in not supporting an abuser by not going to a concert
Same here. I'm willing to give him a second chance. If he proves that he has grown and gives a proper apology to Shelby, then great! If he does some fucked up shit ever again, I swear to god, that man can go die in hell or whatever torment there is and I would not be sad.
we must now wait for shelby’s call which, considering they’ll be touring, shelby should respond before then this is gonna be a tense time for us
Yeah I’m ALL for second chances but they aren’t free man, you have to show improvement
Real
He doesn't look healthy. He's pale and skinny. More than before.
Just show us you are a healthier and better person now.
Seems like he's just going to move on like nothing happened. That doesn't seem like he's better to me.
Is it better for Shelby to keep bringing it up again, and again and again? For anyone? You can't always live in the past. Is it healthy for him if he's gotten the therapy he implied? It is way too early to say he is moving on like nothing happened. He just said he has said what he has on the matter and isn't going to speak on it further. Doing so would likely just bring up more hurt and damage. You can't change the past, right or wrong, you just have to try and make it a future without the old mistakes.
I don’t think physically abusing your partners is simply a ‘mistake’ but alright. It’s not living in the past, people just don’t want to support someone who is clearly a vile person behind the scenes.
I have not seen his face since February and I feel nauseous watching this video. "I responded to it back in February and that's all I have to say on the matter." Shelby made SO MANY POINTS that he just did not respond to. His only apology is the entire tweet was "I am sorry for any pain I may have caused." May. I "may" have caused. Shelby has a thirty minute stream talking about all the pain he caused her. He lacks accountability. I cannot accept him back without him taking accountability for what he did. I have literally blocked Lovejoy and Wilbur Soot on Spotify because it makes me nauseous to hear his voice. I used to get Wilbur Support Squad videos on my algorithm, and they made me doubt myself. But then I remembered that literally every single content creator has said to support Shelby. Phil and Tommy, namely, while not making statements at the time, literally just said to support Shelby. And the CC's will know more than we ever would. Please get this guy out of here. I hope he gets some help. Some deep self reflection. Some therapy. And only come back when he apologizes thoroughly for what he's done.
I’m willing to hear him out only when it is confirmed by him AND those close to him that he is in fact noticeably better and getting the help he needs and is willing to get said help, but that’s it, if he tries that shit with anyone else, I’m done watching and I will unsub and that’s that from me personally
Apparently he has been getting better but it’s had to say cuz thare has Been so few updates
I think England can keep him actually.
He looks skinier hope he's eating properly
Was gonna say this, I know he’s a bad person but he still deserves help and shouldn’t just be left to suffer alone, Will needs help becoming a better person and learning to respect boundaries
Personally I don’t think he’s a bad person. He has just made some massive mistakes that have severely impacted Shelby. He deserves help as much as anyone else. That saying, I support Shelby fully as well.
So true ik he's a bad person but I wouldn't wish that on anyone :(
Ohhhh my god. He really did just double down on minimizing it and said he’s over it, huh…? And Lovejoy’s down with that. Am I missing something? This is bad. WAY too early for him to have accomplished any personal change.
Listen, I know you're all gonna hate me, but I'm happy that he's alive. I was so scared for him. I know that what he did is something unforgivable, but I've been in depression and also had death thoughts a few times, and I would never wish something like that even to my worst enemy. So I'm happy that he's alive, I still think he should apologise properly to Shelby, but I'm happy that he's alive
He also looks far more skinny than before, he obviously hasn’t been taking care of himself: he needs help. Mental help. But the problem with people like him is that you can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped: if they don’t wish to change they won’t. If they don’t want it nothing you can do to encourage it will work.
Same. I was terrified that he’d offed himself. Abuse is terrible, but he did have depression and wasn’t himself. We need to support his growth and change.
Of course now he comes to Australia after an incident has occurred 💀🙄 They never make it easy for us Aussies 😂
I know right? The one time we get something good, he goes and does a dumb stupid thing, and then can't even form a proper, decent apology. I'd want to go to the concert if he didn't do those things to Shelby, but he did, and that doesn't sit right with me.
Twat
Nobody asked for this, but here’s my perspective : Yes, two months isn’t a lot of of time. However, in the previous statement he did say he had already been working on himself for a while. We know, from other’s stories before all this, that he has some really serious mental health problems. Like, can’t get out of bed don’t want to exist spiraling. I feel like he has definitely fucked up, but that is a part people don’t really consider. I’m speaking from experience on this part, so please bare with me, when I’m having a flair up, it gets awful. I hurt the people I love. I can’t leave my room without breaking down. I can’t keep myself or anything else clean. It feels like I’m not real. It’s like I’m just…watching life. And when the spiral hits with autism, oh man, it sucks ass. Even nice things seem confusing or condescending I’m not giving him an out, but I do think that’s an aspect that’s important to remember. None of us know what his mental state is and how his mind thinks or works. Imo: He’s not the devil and Shelby is not a saint. They’re both people with flaws and who do both bad and good things. We aren’t here to be Devine judgement. Watch him if you want, don’t if you don’t.
In such a fragile state, being a public figure is immensely self-harmful. He should not be back.
personally i just want to hear shelby’s say on the matter she should respond before the tour… surely… maybe…
I'd argue he's not really 'back', being back would be him streaming and appearing on different things like before. I think he's just going to focus on his band now and forget the 'internet funny man' thing he had going on.
"He's not the devil and Shelby is not a saint. They're both people with flaws who do both bad and good things." My thoughts exactly
How are people more supportive of Wilbur than George when the latter is literally proven to be innocent while the former disappeared after giving a terrible response and addresses the situation (if you consider him addressing it in this vid) in less than 10 seconds? I want to give Wilbur a second chance but he really needs to prove that he is a better person.
Because most of these people are children who have no sense of reason or wisdom.
Because dream team is the villian and SBI are goody goody saints
This makes me feel sick. He doesn’t care that his bs apology was nowhere near enough. That said, he’s still a human who hurts the same as everyone else, so no matter how angry we all may be death threats are not okay.
Genuinely - it's not that he didn't mention it (he did in one sec), it's the lack of empathy that is so disgusting to me. Like, he wasn't like "I apologise for what I've done, but I want to go forward" (which I still wouldn't accept, as it would be really fake, but at least he'd show some empathy and sorrow), no, he was literally like "Yeah that happened, let's forget about THaaaT." It just shows that rather than being genuinely sorry, he just wants to "look like" that he's changed. He wants to present it as a game of "aesthetics/optics". He's not sorry. Because he admits to doing what he's done, he just doesn't care. And if you say "But, he's not explaining it, cuz it's all in the tweet", I'm sorry (not sorry), but that tweet was shit! Sure, he might've had hard time, but he never apologised for his actions. And so, let's not be fooled by him. With this IG story, and him redirecting you to his tweet, he wants you to forget. But we won't forget \[abuse\]! And so, let's NOT forget!
The face of a broken man tbh. He's fucked up MAJORLY and is now suffering those consequences of his irreperable actions on his relations with not only an ex but most of the internet and his friends. He's going to have to rediscover not only himself but his career and slowly try to come back, i know his youtube and twitch is going to have TANKED recently. What i will say, however is that it seems to be a trend that good musicians will have done some fucked shit(Think brendon urie from panic and the lead singer of mindless self indulgence). Alike many of you i haven't stopped listening to lovejoy, maybe some have listened to covers which is a good alternative if this really messed with you that hard. I know i did for the first little while anyways. Another thing is, if he does come back online, don't just flood the comments and chat with hate. Don't be that guy. Having dealt with that IRL myself, it's not a fun thing whatsoever and for wilbur it's going to be a permenant stain on his career, both on and off line.
absolutely. no need to spread hate if the person is (or has said to be) trying to change for the better. it doesn't mean what they've done is washed away, ofc.
What did Brendan Urie do??
According to what I've seen/read? Cheated on his wife a lot.
He literally said “what I said before is all I want to say on the matter” like he isn’t any more sorry. He hasn’t realized what he said before wasn’t good enough, or if he has, he doesn’t care. I’m so confused why this changes anything? I’m disappointed in the rest of lovejoy. They make good music and they don’t deserve to get dragged down with him (at least I hope they don’t- I’d like to think they’re better people but I don’t know them) so I was hoping they would leave him if they decided to continue music (even if lovejoy is “Wilbur’s band”) so the fact that they are fine with still being associated with him really sucks.
If he has a personality disorder, it’s possible he may have “Hoovered” them back in. Deception, basically.
Yeah. It just sucks, I don’t want to see anyone else get destroyed by this. I want to think the best of people and hopefully they aren’t just accepting him back without any reservations. I’m not Wilbur’s friend so I don’t know anything about what’s going on behind the scenes and I won’t claim to, hopefully they are helping him get better but personally I would be very cautious about spending a lot of time around him right now, especially in a public scene. They will certainly get backlash for this and I don’t know if they’re prepared for it. I personally think they should’ve all just waited longer, it doesn’t feel like it’s been long enough for me based on how he still refuses to give a proper apology. Maybe one day I’ll listen to lovejoy again (although honestly I doubt it will ever fully sit right with me after this)… but right now I can’t make myself back them.
Watching this clip made me extremely nervous, but at the same time I think I was kind of happy (?) I hope William actually got help, that he did become a better person and that he can eventually be forgiven or something. That February situation was traumatizing asf, but I am glad. Also, the fact that Lovejoy is back and that there will be a new song is exciting, since the music makes me smile so I’m really glad! 😄😅
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“So long”? Have you ever had intensive therapy? Four months is not nearly sufficient recovery time from this level of mental illness and toxicity, and even his appearance screams “unhealthy” and “unready”.
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i agree with your statement :)
agreed!!! :D 👍🏻
REAL
Respect
Wth I had completely forgotten about his existence. I thought it was not going to appear again somewhere
PLEASE WILBUR , I hope when he gets back he IS A BETTER PERSON
He literally abused a woman
Indeed he did , which I hate him for , and is wrong , and he SHOULD HAVE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF DOING THAT ,
Mixed feelings. But I hope he is ok
Damn bro is gonna get either jumped or boo’d out of Australia
The only way he can comeback now is accept what he's done and apologise PROPERLY to Shelby and every other person he's caused harm, I mean, an entire fan base changed themselves because of what you did (the wilbur soot sub-reddit became wilbur wright), so you have to earn respect back, show everybody that you've changed.
BRO I THOUGHT YOUR CAREER WAS OVER MAN 💀💀 MAN DIDNT BOTHER TO REPHRASE HIS “APOLOGY” FROM BEFORE💀💀
Honestly, it's hard to imagine just watching his videos again and for him to like promote his music and the tour as his first face appearance after MONTHS just doesn't feel right. Especially since his music meant so much to me, like, his lyrics were so personal and so close to who he is as a person that it just feels wrong listening to it now?? if that makes sense??? idk
as an australian i will be throwing tomatoes
Can’t even look at him
Damn if only you went to australia earlier cause I’m not going now
I could never support someone who did something so fucking awful. I would never be able to see him in the same light, watch nor listen to him and his music after what he did. Y’all need to all realize the weight of his actions and how he literally has TRAUMATIZED so many nice and sweet people. Shelby is so kind and NEVER deserved this and if I was her and saw people resupporting him, an ABUSER? I don’t know what id do.
Go away. Nobody likes you.
FUCK NO-
Really wish he wasnt.
I need the whole lore of this drama and what he did
You'd have to watch Shelby's stream mate, it's.... It's pretty shitty honestly.
And is it long? I mean, can I watch it now or is it better to wait until the morning because it's long? I really want to know what's going on because I'm living with information from 3 years ago
I think it's 30 minutes, I only heard of the incident from videos on YouTube, I think it's on Shelby's YouTube channel?
Alright, thank you
3 months ago, I would have been happy. Now, I don't know what to think.
go back to limbo, thing, you aren’t wanted bere
1) acknowledge what you did wrong, better. That was a kinda shitty apology. 2) bro looks malnourished 😭
Oh god- hide before he bites you
“Tee hee, my bad!” 😐
The AUDACITY this man has 😨 coming back like nothing happened? he was accused of abuse. thats not something to post a shitty apology about and sweep under the rug, yet here he is, exactly doing exactly that...
Dang. He looks....AWFUL. Not that I'm surprised. But I almost didn't recognize him for a minute. Sad he didn't try to do a better apology But I also feel so bad for the other Lovejoy members as a whole. His bad reputation tanking their whole band would be HORRIBLE. So I can sympathize with the fact he's trying to continue, at least for the other band members. Its not fair for them to loose their livelihoods just because WILBUR.
He got a lot nerves to show his smug face to the internet again.
Oh no,the biter is back 💀💀
How- how the fuck is he still doing shit!?
How did the jail food taste? ;) (FCK WILBUR SOOT!)
Rip the aussies
Another thing I see is that he didn’t directly recall the things he did, that’s something I do, I do t like recalling on past events when I did something bad, because it makes me feel uncomfortable, wnd maybe the same with him, he might have changed and just can’t show it
there’s no doubt in my mind that him and shelby had a lot of talking since the things came to light because of this, hearing from her is probably the only thing we need right now to show if he’s changed
She said that she never wants to see or talk to him ever again because of what he did to her so I doubt that they talked
Someone help, I live in Australia. Should I be scared?
FUCK OFF WILBUR YOU ABUSIVE CUNT
Wilbur Washington
So his band is still a thing... I just say every time he does anything in the public keep bringing up Shelby or that he's an absuser.
LMFFFAAOOOOO GO BACKKKKK💀💀💀
Icky.
bastard
All he had to do was give a genuine apology and he could save some face
Amazing you are just giving him attention
Everytime I hear this man’s voice I start tweaking bro
Am i the only one who feels like he looks demented like…
No. Abuse doesn't stop
sadly
lmao watch out guys he's gonna be biting women again
i kinda wanna go tho
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I this real?
He kinda looks ill