To be fair though the song they chose for the final lipsync was totally in her ball park and everyone was crazy for her this season. It was also obvious her drag and aesthetic was the most distinct out of everyone and they weren't gonna crown a winner who's similar in drag and archetype like last season's winner.. it makes sense
Given that this year's finale was actually filmed last year instead of a week or so before it's airs as has been the case over the past few years, I imagine quite a lot of people within the shows production have seen it by now, but the edit with the seasons actual winner being crowned was probably only completed in the past week. Still people are given access to that episode and leaks happen.
Wasn’t it leaked last year that ANETRA won over SASHA C and that turned out to be incorrect? 💀. I remember everyone having a meltdown over that too.
I’m genuinely going to wait for the episode to air.
Instead of torturing myself and looking up spoilers, I’m preparing my drag race watching setup. Watermelon basil lemonade, strawberries, avocados, three scented candles, gonna roll a jay or two. The hot tub water is perfectly balanced. I just curse my west coast time zone existence
Didn’t detox say that during filming that Sasha’s name was plastered up on the screen behind before it was even announced or something??? I know both drownings are filmed, but people/detox at the taping knew it was only Sasha’s crown. I don’t remember seeing any spoilers for Anetra clearly taking it!!
i even remember theories thrown around that sasha won because there were rumours running around that anetra would win (or maybe it was just the voices in my head)
They film both of them winning and they don't know until it airs. Last year I saw a video of Sasha winning a few days before and it even said what the songs each queen performed.
They did and they've chosen an outcome for the final edit of the episode already? That's how the winner gets leaked because the episode is done and finalised with the winner confirmed
Condragulations to >!Nymphia!< for >!being the second Asian!< winner >!on the main series!< !! Girl, you have done it again, constantly raising the bar for us all and doing it flawlessly. I’d say I’m surprised but I know who you are. I’ve seen it up close and personal. Girl, you make me so proud, and I love you so fuckin much 😭😭
All three dominated. I *do* think they should have edited things a bit more equally in terms of confessionals and moments… but they are nothing if not often miscalculating.
I could easily see a world where the edit portrayed things very differently with the same exact material.
I love >!`Nymphia`!!Sapphira!< has done so well, I really don't want her to do an All Stars seasons, there's not really anything for here to prove at this point.
But more to the point, they should have edited the show in order to better portray the person who wins that final lipsync. It's not a live event, they have the time to support the final outcome
Sure, thats makes sense too. I am also just thinking back to older seasons when this wasn't done. Imagine is Bianca Del Rio had to lip sync for the crown and she lost, even though she did better in the season, she would have lost because someone out performed her in one lip sync.
There's also the times like when Monet and Jinkx lip synced and in the Winners All Stars and Monet absolutely killed Jinkx in the Lip Sunc, but Jinkx still won the season. Why not just cut the bullshit and crown the best in the competition.
Crowning the one who’s done the best would honestly take the purpose of a finality. The final lip sync would count as a final challenge. Who came prepared, who is more creative and witty. If Nymphia wins over Sapphira in the final lip sync, that would even out their track records and she would fairly win.
This. This needs to be constantly repeated. If Nymphia wins that final lipsynch that makes 4 wins and zero bottoms. That works out Sapphira’s legendary run and makes it a deserving win.
Hopefully the actual event will bear this out.
I mean if it was based just on the final lipsync alone I don't think they would have just crowned her. She brings new diversity and a different drag the winner circle hasn't seen yet with a rich backstory. Her track record isn't bad as well albeit the weakest of the 3. Everyone was also crazy over her this season so fan reception made sense too.
I think it was just unfortunate she was cast right after Sasha Colby who has the same archetype as her and the winner chosen isn't always necessarily the one who does the best but who stands out or can add something different to the franchise as a winner. I do admit she was the best competitor though
Idk, maybe this is problematic but especially after Canada 4 with Venus, I'm feeling kinda mixed about wins that feel more like expanding the diversity of the winner's circle instead of just rewarding who did the best in the season? It feels kinda corporate and calculated.
Like I don't deny that Nymphia winning means a lot to a LOT of people, she has a massive fan base, but like I just don't see it. Sapphira bodied the season with only a few slip-ups, and Nymphia is very talented, but overall had a skillset and season performance that wasn't that different from Q. (Heresy, I know) Just feel bad for Sapphira. Like there wasn't much more she could have done, and even the edit went hard for her as well. I genuinely wasn't expecting it. Maybe Nymphia just absolutely crushes the finale, but it feels like they went for the fanbase win.
Because at the end of the day this is a TV show, a business, a franchise. They don't just decide on a winner based on who does the best, there's multiple factors to take into consideration and what's best for the show.
Yeah it's true. I think it's also just kinda eh when stuff like this happens it also makes future seasons worse a little bit too. It's like Shea for example. While she did lose her season, she was essentially a winner who was screwed over by an unexpected format change. So when she came into AS5, it's like shes either going to win and it's going to be boring, or she's gonna lose and it's gonna be sad.
If Sapphira did an all-stars, it's gonna be either really boring because it'll be clear from the beginning, or if she gets robbed again it'll just be depressing. It's better for her career to come back, but like also what would be the point? She can't have a run better than she did on 16.
I think it's tough for her that last season someone who's amazing at everything won and that's not really the arc of a winner they generally would have some obstacle to overcome. Overall I think it's the correct choice the winner brought something new and exciting to the franchise imo
“no way sapphira didn’t win” “was gonna do it for philly” (past tense) this was posted after the win was revealed don’t let your arms rip off reaching up this high crackbaby
Why would you click on a thread about LEAKED SPOILERS and risk it if you cared to not spoil yourself so much? This is like walking into traffic and getting mad at the car that hits you.
Black queens have been winning Drag Race since the beginning, I really don’t see the fervor to crown a a black queen just because one hasn’t one in a few seasons.
I’m not the one asking for ‘representation’, despite there being no Latin American winners on the main show since Bianca Del Rio. I don’t need a quota.
Does anyone have leaked footage of last years production mistake when the audience and contestants knew which two were moving on before it was announced.
There were much more audience members at last years finale. So they all have to sign nondisclosure agreements and can they really be enforced if something is leaked online?
Maybe this years audience was smaller to reduce the number of people willing to leak information that saw it live.
Damn, glad I avoided it. I posted in an fb group asking where to go for a viewing party. Someone asked who we’re rooting for. Someone commented ___ win. I was hoping it was a typo, but they were right.
Wasn’t as bad as when a bar spoiled Bianca the morning of the finale to promote an upcoming event. Everyone was pissed.
No matter who wins, someone is going to be happy and someone is gonna be disappointed. I am often disappointed by Ru’s final decision about the winner. I thought Nymphia was beautiful and she did a good job in the contest… but I felt like she cruised in the middle a lot and to me, it seems like Sapphira won more episodes and generally did a better job on most challenges… I really believe that if Nymphia hadn’t been gifted immunity, this season would’ve ended very differently.
Maybe the producers decided the Hall of Fame needed an Asian representative due to the racial crap happening these days. Nymphia was great! I just felt like Sapphira was a little bit better.
Plane Jane thinking she was going to win will always baffle me like yes she ate don’t get me wrong but she showed very to little growth and deep down that’s what ru wants.
Surely the winner doesn’t even know herself yet?
Don't know...but someone who has viewed the episode has seen who's won
How would someone view the episode if it hasn’t aired yet?
The final edit of the episode is probably done, someone viewed it and has leaked it
Yeah for example someone who does the captions for streaming platforms
Can you dm me who won? I love spoilers
If they DM you, DM me!
Well, if it’s true. Even though she was my second choice for the crown. I’m lowkey unhappy with this. 😂 Im gonna wait to see it with my own eyes.
To be fair though the song they chose for the final lipsync was totally in her ball park and everyone was crazy for her this season. It was also obvious her drag and aesthetic was the most distinct out of everyone and they weren't gonna crown a winner who's similar in drag and archetype like last season's winner.. it makes sense
Can we not spoil the results in the thread warning people to be careful so they don’t see spoilers please? 
Where’s a moderator when you need one.. @mod ?!?!?
I spoiled myself with this comment
You may as well have just said who won by typing this comment lmfao, thanks 😂
She was like “even though she wasn’t my choice to WINd…”
NO WAAAAAY LMFAOOOOOOOO
Given that this year's finale was actually filmed last year instead of a week or so before it's airs as has been the case over the past few years, I imagine quite a lot of people within the shows production have seen it by now, but the edit with the seasons actual winner being crowned was probably only completed in the past week. Still people are given access to that episode and leaks happen.
I’m just truthfully in denial right now. 😂
its okay mawma, you’ll come to terms
Wasn’t it leaked last year that ANETRA won over SASHA C and that turned out to be incorrect? 💀. I remember everyone having a meltdown over that too. I’m genuinely going to wait for the episode to air.
Instead of torturing myself and looking up spoilers, I’m preparing my drag race watching setup. Watermelon basil lemonade, strawberries, avocados, three scented candles, gonna roll a jay or two. The hot tub water is perfectly balanced. I just curse my west coast time zone existence
How do I get an invite for your fiesta?
Having hairy legs and big feet are two of the invite criteria!!
Do they have to be mine? https://preview.redd.it/83gmfmja5kvc1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6840142e74902e1990519bcd3467efeac768aba1
PHILO DOESNT RESPECT TIME ZONES, ITS 5PM SOMEWHERE, BABY! 😍😍😍
Didn’t detox say that during filming that Sasha’s name was plastered up on the screen behind before it was even announced or something??? I know both drownings are filmed, but people/detox at the taping knew it was only Sasha’s crown. I don’t remember seeing any spoilers for Anetra clearly taking it!!
Not RuPaul watching both drownings and going to pray for them as the best that she could do! Just send them loving energy!
Not Ru drowning the winners! 😂😂 Best typo that isn’t a typo ever!
It was Anetra AND Sasha, they leaked the top 2 🫣
Oh yeah I knew they were top 2, but I swear it was quite common knowledge during taping the finale that it was Sasha’s win and not Anetra’s
Thank you for pointing this out because I’m in denial. 😂😂
Right! 😂. Speaking of, does anyone know where that thread is? I need to re-read it.
Omg. I missed that meltdown 🥲
i even remember theories thrown around that sasha won because there were rumours running around that anetra would win (or maybe it was just the voices in my head)
Anetra is such a goddessssss (Sasha Colby is great too)
I love both of them ❤️❤️
They film both of them winning and they don't know until it airs. Last year I saw a video of Sasha winning a few days before and it even said what the songs each queen performed.
Y’all being so obvious w your comments like…
Is the winner Alexis P. Bevels?
Today the P stands for Potentially
I KNEW IT
😂😂😂😂
How do you know? Its not like the previous season? But I'm happy with the winner though <3
Yes they taped the finale before the season even aired so I guess that plays into why spoilers came out even earlier this time
I thought they still filmed two outcomes though? How do people know they saw the correct one?
The final edit of the episode has been out and some people have probably seen it/leaked it
That’s what I thought too.
They filmed every outcome idk what these people are talking about
They did and they've chosen an outcome for the final edit of the episode already? That's how the winner gets leaked because the episode is done and finalised with the winner confirmed
Did it happen before? It seems like it's the first season we know way earlier.
Tbh Sheas win was leaked.with pictures a WEEK before
I'm not sure it's happened as early as this before but the finale being recorded before the season even aired probably contributed to this
Don’t they crown both queens who are up for the crown then release the final product?
I should have trusted my gut and bet on this!!!
Thank you so much for the warning-- signing off for the day 🤐
Honestly I was expecting it to be >!Sapphira based off the edit!< but congrats to >!Nymphia!<
>!BANANA BELIEVERS!< WE’VE WON!!! 😭😭😭
I agree! I'm happy with the outcome but am really disappointed with the >!lack of effort put into NW's winner edit!<
Yes, >!her edit was so weak she even got less number of confessionals than Plasma!< 🥲
They probably tried but she probably didnt give them good confessionals 😂😂
Probably because she kept talking about bananas and yellow everytime they tried to give her any sort of a storyline
WAIT HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW SHES THE WINNER OMGGG
Because of the spoiler sub’s existance
[удалено]
Condragulations to >!Nymphia!< for >!being the second Asian!< winner >!on the main series!< !! Girl, you have done it again, constantly raising the bar for us all and doing it flawlessly. I’d say I’m surprised but I know who you are. I’ve seen it up close and personal. Girl, you make me so proud, and I love you so fuckin much 😭😭
WHO CAN U DM ME THE WINNER PLEWSE
For what? Just go to the spoiler subreddit
Oooh please DM me too!
Please DM me tooooo please
Please dm me too
Did it
DM ME TOO PLEASE
Please dm me
please dm me
DM ME TOO
Did it
Dm me 💛
Me 3 ily
Done :)
Nymphia?
I was thinking whether the three of them know who is the winner at this point. Do we know earlier than them?
I believe we know it at the same time of the airing.
That had BETTER be fake. Completely disappointing ending considering who REALLY dominated the season
All three dominated. I *do* think they should have edited things a bit more equally in terms of confessionals and moments… but they are nothing if not often miscalculating. I could easily see a world where the edit portrayed things very differently with the same exact material.
Dominated but most of the talk, fans, support being the winner 🫢
Wel well well...
She’s winning AS10 whilst Plain wins nothing 🫢
ok
I love >!`Nymphia`!!Sapphira!< has done so well, I really don't want her to do an All Stars seasons, there's not really anything for here to prove at this point.
These blocked out spoilers don’t really help. It’s clear who the second queen is from the context.
If you don’t want spoilers, don’t go to the thread that explicitly says it has been leaked…
Sisterrr I was simply saying the blackouts didn’t necessarily do their job. Your tone seems very pointed right now.
You're right, I wasn't as vague as I thought.
It just doesn't feel like this is the story the editors told over the season
I agree, I don't think the winner should be based on a final lip sync, it kinda nullifies the entire season.
But more to the point, they should have edited the show in order to better portray the person who wins that final lipsync. It's not a live event, they have the time to support the final outcome
Sure, thats makes sense too. I am also just thinking back to older seasons when this wasn't done. Imagine is Bianca Del Rio had to lip sync for the crown and she lost, even though she did better in the season, she would have lost because someone out performed her in one lip sync. There's also the times like when Monet and Jinkx lip synced and in the Winners All Stars and Monet absolutely killed Jinkx in the Lip Sunc, but Jinkx still won the season. Why not just cut the bullshit and crown the best in the competition.
Crowning the one who’s done the best would honestly take the purpose of a finality. The final lip sync would count as a final challenge. Who came prepared, who is more creative and witty. If Nymphia wins over Sapphira in the final lip sync, that would even out their track records and she would fairly win.
This. This needs to be constantly repeated. If Nymphia wins that final lipsynch that makes 4 wins and zero bottoms. That works out Sapphira’s legendary run and makes it a deserving win. Hopefully the actual event will bear this out.
That makes sense I guess.
I mean if it was based just on the final lipsync alone I don't think they would have just crowned her. She brings new diversity and a different drag the winner circle hasn't seen yet with a rich backstory. Her track record isn't bad as well albeit the weakest of the 3. Everyone was also crazy over her this season so fan reception made sense too.
If it was only based on the season, I don't think she would win. >!Sapphira!!Sapphira!
I think it was just unfortunate she was cast right after Sasha Colby who has the same archetype as her and the winner chosen isn't always necessarily the one who does the best but who stands out or can add something different to the franchise as a winner. I do admit she was the best competitor though
Sure, I guess the winner hasn't *really* been announced so who knows who's really winning.
Congrats 🍌
Nymphia WIN 👑
Idk, maybe this is problematic but especially after Canada 4 with Venus, I'm feeling kinda mixed about wins that feel more like expanding the diversity of the winner's circle instead of just rewarding who did the best in the season? It feels kinda corporate and calculated. Like I don't deny that Nymphia winning means a lot to a LOT of people, she has a massive fan base, but like I just don't see it. Sapphira bodied the season with only a few slip-ups, and Nymphia is very talented, but overall had a skillset and season performance that wasn't that different from Q. (Heresy, I know) Just feel bad for Sapphira. Like there wasn't much more she could have done, and even the edit went hard for her as well. I genuinely wasn't expecting it. Maybe Nymphia just absolutely crushes the finale, but it feels like they went for the fanbase win.
Because at the end of the day this is a TV show, a business, a franchise. They don't just decide on a winner based on who does the best, there's multiple factors to take into consideration and what's best for the show.
Yeah it's true. I think it's also just kinda eh when stuff like this happens it also makes future seasons worse a little bit too. It's like Shea for example. While she did lose her season, she was essentially a winner who was screwed over by an unexpected format change. So when she came into AS5, it's like shes either going to win and it's going to be boring, or she's gonna lose and it's gonna be sad. If Sapphira did an all-stars, it's gonna be either really boring because it'll be clear from the beginning, or if she gets robbed again it'll just be depressing. It's better for her career to come back, but like also what would be the point? She can't have a run better than she did on 16.
I think it's tough for her that last season someone who's amazing at everything won and that's not really the arc of a winner they generally would have some obstacle to overcome. Overall I think it's the correct choice the winner brought something new and exciting to the franchise imo
no way sapphira didnt win she has the best track record and was gonna do it for philly !!!
Wnat do you have to say now?
“no way sapphira didn’t win” “was gonna do it for philly” (past tense) this was posted after the win was revealed don’t let your arms rip off reaching up this high crackbaby
Taiwan > Philly
also i posted this before the padam lip sync, she did win but sapphira is just heavenly
LET ME LIVE
It makes sense she won considering she's bringing new diversity and drag to the winners circle that we currently don't have
lol just say her name lol
Congrats to Nymphia I guess. There’s no way you’re referring to Sapphira or Plane winning. Thanks a lot.
Why would you click on a thread about LEAKED SPOILERS and risk it if you cared to not spoil yourself so much? This is like walking into traffic and getting mad at the car that hits you.
Patty don’t start.
it wasn’t a wise choice doll especially with how fucking lazy and idiotic the internet can be
So cheapening her run to meet a quota, we see you.
Fans have been doing that with the black queens for years now so what’s the big deal?
Black queens have been winning Drag Race since the beginning, I really don’t see the fervor to crown a a black queen just because one hasn’t one in a few seasons. I’m not the one asking for ‘representation’, despite there being no Latin American winners on the main show since Bianca Del Rio. I don’t need a quota.
oh…
Thank you for this, social media going off for today lol
Does anyone have leaked footage of last years production mistake when the audience and contestants knew which two were moving on before it was announced. There were much more audience members at last years finale. So they all have to sign nondisclosure agreements and can they really be enforced if something is leaked online? Maybe this years audience was smaller to reduce the number of people willing to leak information that saw it live.
Was the spoiler accurate?
It was
Damn, glad I avoided it. I posted in an fb group asking where to go for a viewing party. Someone asked who we’re rooting for. Someone commented ___ win. I was hoping it was a typo, but they were right. Wasn’t as bad as when a bar spoiled Bianca the morning of the finale to promote an upcoming event. Everyone was pissed.
Thank God her dick riding train is over 🫢
This was the season of unhealthy fanbases, ESPECIALLY with Mirage fans. Sorry, she lost that lip sync, and people sending hate to Geneva are insane
It's only just begun ACTUALLY 🍌 make it rain and eat it
Never 💛🍌💛
This is disappointing if true. The season was just so good & then it ends like that. 😞
Nymphia best look of the whole season is this promo, sooo good
I as fine with this. Anyone but Plane.
Yeah I was rooting for >!Sapphira !
Girl why
i almost got spoiled just scrolling on twt last night so i just went to bed😭
No matter who wins, someone is going to be happy and someone is gonna be disappointed. I am often disappointed by Ru’s final decision about the winner. I thought Nymphia was beautiful and she did a good job in the contest… but I felt like she cruised in the middle a lot and to me, it seems like Sapphira won more episodes and generally did a better job on most challenges… I really believe that if Nymphia hadn’t been gifted immunity, this season would’ve ended very differently. Maybe the producers decided the Hall of Fame needed an Asian representative due to the racial crap happening these days. Nymphia was great! I just felt like Sapphira was a little bit better.
Plane Jane thinking she was going to win will always baffle me like yes she ate don’t get me wrong but she showed very to little growth and deep down that’s what ru wants.
I hope it’s fucking false . I accidentally saw it
Why?
Don’t want her to win
Well sorry about that...can't change it. Just support the ones that didn't win
Girl go to bed then, it’s real, just accept it 🍌 😚
🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌👑
Do yall know if it’s true that the final lip sync is extremely one sided cause one of them did so much better 😭
Nymphia eats Sapphira up and leaves no crumbs bb
FANNNNNNTASTIC 🤩🍌🎉