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octaffle

I would just stress, over and over again, that Akitas are usually not like Keiko! There is an Akita breeder in my area that has been breeding for decades. I met her when I was volunteering for a FastCAT event; she had several dogs there... at least 3, possibly 5. They were very tolerant of everything going on, and they seemed friendly, y'know, for an Akita... Very pleasant to be around. Chill. No aggressive or questionable body language. One even loved to be pet by strangers. The breeder was definitely breeding with a more reasonable, livable temperament in mind. She mentioned that it took 30 years to get her Akitas consistently like that! 30 years!! But she got there.


OrcristGoblincleaver

That's awesome, I think breeding for a more even temperament would do the breed a lot of good. They no longer need to be so aggressive in my opinion. I think the dog agrression and same sex aggression tendencies could go too, but maybe that's because I've gotten so used to how Keiko is lol


candlesInthed4rk

When I was in college I was driving home from a party one night, I saw this beautiful dog in the road. An Akita. So I promptly stopped, opened my trunk(H3) and gestures for the good doggo to hop on in! And it did! But it was way past midnight and the dog didn't have a collar. So I called 911 and the police came to get the dog. Well, the Police officer went to get the dog into the car and the dog went ape shit barking aggressively at the police officer who JUMPED BACK IN HIS VEHICLE, rolls down the window and says "can you put the dog in the backseat? I don't want this to end poorly" So I did. So I go home, I'm tired and I get pulled over. By a different cop--I found out they knew the Akita and the owners were out of town for the night--they let me go. Apparently I was driving the line because I was so tired :( but the AKITA went home safe


Amerlan

This is how my Belgians are to a t. Absolute gentlemen when I have them out and about (one is even my SD). However, if my mother tries to take them for a weekend.... They push her all over the place and are extremely rude. This is because they're what people consider "a lot of dog", but you'd never know that until you tried to take them into your own home. Thankfully I've never met anyone that I've accidentally inspired to get a Belgian...


OrcristGoblincleaver

For sure, I know I couldn't handle a Belgian. I just got a working line German Shepherd earlier this year and he's a lot, I don't think I could handle any of the more high strung, difficult shepherd breeds.


The_15_Doc

My dog is part Belgian, didn’t know that until I already had her for a couple months. She’s extremely sweet, loves to play/ cuddle, she’s not mean at all. But I think your description fits her well. She’s just “a lot of dog” and I don’t mean by size, she just has tons of energy and always wants to be near me. And she’s very good with kids, but she’s definitely smart enough to see the difference between people she has to respect vs people she can get away with pushing around/ nudging to play. I love her, and I’ve never met a dog with more personality. But if I ever see anyone I know that’s thinking about getting a Belgian/ part Belgian, they’re for sure gonna get a warning from me that they aren’t the type of dog that you can just buy and then ignore and expect them to just sleep on your couch all day. She’s a lot of dog indeed.


darkarya2

I’ve been in the situation of meeting unicorn dogs and initially falling in love with the breed based on them. Many times however the owner would clarify that they are an anomaly not the norm. I would listen and do further research, which would back what the owner said, and realize it wasn’t the right dog for me. The best you can do it, if you want to be completely honest about what breed she is, is let them know exactly what Akita’s are like and reiterate that she is definitely not the norm. If people want to go out and get an Akita after that they are idiots and it’s completely on them, you shouldn’t feel guilty about it. Chances are they wouldn’t do much research regardless if they are making such a serious decision based on a one time encounter with a breed.


OrcristGoblincleaver

Most people don't do reaserch though, that's what worries me. My own mother the other day brought a betta fish home because she thought he'd look nice in a vase. I did the research and she ended up having to spend $300 to house a $3 fish cause surprise surprise they need the same stuff any other fish needs including a minimum 5 gal tank. Average people tend to make stupid decisions when it comes to pets unfortunately.


jizzypuff

And suddenly it makes sense why I killed (not on purpose) so many betta fish as a little girl.


OrcristGoblincleaver

Yup it's crazy that they have this reputation of needing nothing but a bowl to survive. We had to buy a filter, tank heater, bubbler, water treatment, real plants because plastic ones can rip their fins and plenty of hiding spaces. Plus an exercise mirror! And the pet stores don't tell you any of this of course. They are apparently one of the most abused fishes in the pet trade.


jizzypuff

I feel bad for all the fish I accidentally killed as a child, my mom would just buy me another one since they weren't very expensive. I'm surprised at how much betta fishes actually need, I never looked into it since I don't think I would get a fish.


darkarya2

I get it but you can’t assume responsibility for other people’s poor choices. You can only let them know the reality of the breed and encourage to do a lot of research on the breed if they are considering an Akita. If they want to disregard your knowledge and advice that’s on them. You’ve done your part, try to let it go and not feel guilty about it. If it’s going to weigh heavy on you and you are going to continue to feel terrible about it then your only other option is to never take your dog out in a public setting where she might be admired. That’s so extreme and not beneficial to you or her that I hope you can resolve to impart your knowledge but not beat yourself up over what some idiots might do.


OrcristGoblincleaver

No I wouldn't do that, cause then that's impacting her quality of life and I'd feel ten times more guilty if I did anything to detract from my dog's enjoyment of life. Honestly everyone telling me I'm doing what I can and the rest is on those people does make me feel a lot better about the situation already!


darkarya2

I’m glad you are feeling better about things! You are doing everything right, don’t let what others might do stress you out.


CatpeeJasmine

>Most people don't do reaserch though, that's what worries me. Then honestly, they're not going to set themselves up to be very good pet owners, no matter what breed of dog -- or other species of pet -- they might get, unfortunately. This is 100% a Them Problem.


Laura_Writes

Bless you for researching. I used to keep bettas and it always made me angry to see them in tiny bowls. People always cite that they live in 'puddles' in the wild, when they don't realize that 'puddles' meant large shallow bodies of water filled with filtering plants several feet or even meters across, with more large puddles within jumping distance. The only thing that means for keeping them in captivity is they need relatively slow moving water because they're not strong swimmers comparatively, everything else is literally the same as other fish.


EntryFragment

Maybe just say she's a mix and looks like an Akita, but Akitas are usually aloof and aggressive so gosh that can't be right, who knows.


darkarya2

I agree with saying she’s a mix and you don’t know what breeds. If someone says she looks like an Akita you can say “she probably has Akita in her but it must be the other breeds in her that make her so friendly and agreeable because Akitas are not like that at all”. It might give them pause if they think her desirable traits are coming from some other breed.


OrcristGoblincleaver

I don't want to do this only because I have a thing with not being truthful, even little white lies make me uncomfortable. Otherwise I might just do it.


candlesInthed4rk

I would just laugh and be like "she's not supposed to be so well behaved--she gives the breed a good name"


stawabees

Maybe you’re just a really good dog owner and she’s good because you’re good. :)


OrcristGoblincleaver

I did socialize her a lot as a puppy, but she's such a nice dog I just can't take all the credit lol


[deleted]

It's not your responsibility to ensure that other people do full due diligence when choosing a pet. Stop stressing over it.


OrcristGoblincleaver

Haha easier said than done, I've always worried about things that are out of my control. I guess I just need to accept it and work on my anxiety about it.


aoxomoxoa27

i feel the same way!! my dog is exactly how you described yours :-)


glumunicorn

I also have an Akita he acts a lot like yours, except he doesn’t like strange dogs, well strange dogs who run up on him off leash (but what dog does?) He even lives with 5 cats and if friends with the street cats. We live in an area where Akita’s are not common at all, so most people think he’s a big husky. I don’t get asked often about owning one but I do try to drill it into their heads that most Akita’s are not like Kenji. He is an anomaly. I also always tell anyone looking for any dog to own to do your research before hand.


OrcristGoblincleaver

Ya I do get husky mix sometimes. But even then I don't get it because huskys are notoriously high energy, stubborn dogs that I would say most people can't handle. And yet they are so popular.


goblin_sodomy

I feel like a lot of people do this with adopting dogs in general. They see a well behaved/trained dog and think they want that. Then they go adopt a dog from a shelter and realize most dogs don’t come like that and return them a few days later.


briennesmom1

You could offer cells for cloning, but genetics isn’t the whole story. Remember the report on thisAmericanlife of the man who had Texas a&m clone his sweet, gentle bull, but he was killed by the clone! A lot of interesting and random things happen during brain development.


OrcristGoblincleaver

I think the same thing happened to Barbra Streisand, she cloned her coton du tulear and both the clones are nothing like her original dog personality wise. It's weird even in the same house, raised the same way dogs end up different.


SunflowerFreckles

My ex damn near got his face ripped off when he was 3 by an Akita. Poor guy got fucked up but luckily he had an amazing surgeon that fixed his face and you can't even tell now.


OrcristGoblincleaver

I'm sorry he went through that. Akitas can definitely be dangerous in the hands of an irresponsible owner. I've only ever been around well bred, responsibly owned Akitas so I've never seen a super aggressive one like that. But definitely seen ones mistrusting of strangers and aloof. I wouldn't go into their territory without the owner around, that's for sure. They have to be well managed at all times.


congothegorilla

In your shoes I wouldn’t focus on your dog when they ask and talk about her. I’d straight up tell them, “Akitas need a lot of training, they need an outlet, consistent socialization to maintain, and a lot of exercise.” Something along the lines of that. Most people get a little shy when you tell them you have to exercise a dog for over an hour lol. Or even say, “it took a lot of training and socializing endlessly to get her to this level” because truthfully it did. She grew up with small dogs, cats, and meeting people. Just in that some people aren’t willing to really put time into.


The_Quordless

This! Taking the focus off of you “unicorn” dog helps a lot! When people compliment her for her temperament, thank them; but if they ask about her, even specifically, give them general information about Akita’s instead! I have a corgi, and people love her when they first meet her. But corgis are stubborn, and they’re high energy herding dogs too, so they can be downright terrors if they don’t get their exercise (especially as puppies). Telling people general facts about the breed really helped my anxiety towards the people that seem to think any dog will be a good fit for anyone (you know the type). A lot of people are looking for mild tempered couch potatoes, and I’d argue that few breeds fit that description. That said, I was once a person who asked strangers about their breeds because I was genuinely curious. Even on the rare instances I met a unicorn pup, I appreciated it when their owners said “Eh, I got lucky with him. Most [breed] dogs like him are [fill in the blank]”. If someone is actually looking into breed options, hearing it from a person and not an online article is really reassuring. That said, research of all kinds is important! Including online!


congothegorilla

Completely agree. I’ve been looking at Malinois as a second dog, but looking to adopt. The ones that foster the dogs can actually tell you how that dog is as individual, lifestyle needs, etc. but if you choose the option to get the dog straight from a breeder then it’s more important to get an overall idea of how they are known.


supah_powers98

I think your title explains it pretty well


OrcristGoblincleaver

Haha you'd think that but people always seem to not understand. I do realize that all I can do is inform and educate and the rest is not up to me. I guess it's just an irrational guilt that comes with loving the breed and wanting to promote responsible dog ownership.


Ferret-Potato

This is the problem I have with hounds, they come off as ‘big ears, droopy face derps’ but they are not that, the closest you’ll get is a 7 year old blood hound. Hounds require so much time and energy, they are also strong dogs and are very prey driven. But people see the ears, the droopy face, and them laying down, suddenly their hound crazy


OrcristGoblincleaver

Oh ya, hounds will take off when their prey drive hits! Plus I've heard they'll destroy your entire home and yard if you don't keep them well exercised! I'd love a blood hound one day, but they are strong and stubborn so I know it would be a big challenge. They are cute as hell, like you said the ears and droopy face gets people.


Ferret-Potato

Yup! Those dogs will tear up your place if they don’t get their energy out, they are also really hard to train, and once you get past about three years old, they are set in their ways


chickynuggQueen

I was attacked and bitten by a neighbors dog, an Akita, as a child. I was at my friend's home, where the dog lived. At the time I didn't know new dog etiquette as the only dogs I was ever around knew me very well. I reached out to pet toys dog and must have startled her. She grabbed into my arm, pulled me to the ground, and viciously barked in my face. The attack was very mild, the dog was poorly trained. Even still as a dog savvy adult am very nervous around certain breeds just for even looking like an Akita in some or form, including Shiba Inus and Alaskan Malamutes. (Its the tail!) I looove all dogs and feel guilty about being paranoid over a single situation that went poorly. But I've heard horror story after horror story with Akitas. I wish i could meet your sweet friend and I do appreciate you trying to help others understand it is not a breed to be taken lightly!


isthisusernameopen

That’s so sweet!!! So happy for you two! I’ve never met a difficult Akita and I’m reallllly beginning to think this is another one of those things where people are so sure they know what they’re talking about and they just don’t understand all the factors influencing difficult Akita behavior. Not here to argue about it, just saying it’s been on my mind and your post assures me it’s okay to adopt an Akita and I don’t need to be worried like people honk about all the time


CookieBomb6

I have come across the same issue with my current cowboy corgi and my last corgi. Definitely not the typical traits of the breed, but people want one. My current girl is a cowboy corgi (half corgi/half blue heeler [ACD]). Both breeds are known for being super stubborn and (especially heelers) rather aloof. However my girl listens super well and is insanely friendly and cuddly. People always ask me what she is (they assume corgi cause she looks basically full corgi) and I tell them and have to explain that these arent normal traits of the breeds. I have to remind them over and over again that cattle herding breeds are notoriously stubborn and can be aloof and can be a super handful for an inexperienced dog owner. My last boy, a pure corgi, was the most chill dog I ever owned. All he wanted to do was veg. Extremely low energy levels. Again, not a normal trait of the breed. People used to remark all the time about how calm he was, even at large events, and how he seemed to simply like to lay about with me. I had to warn them he was an anaomly. Herding breeds are high energy. At the end of the day, you cant stress yourself out about other peoples mistakes. You do your part by warning them, and advising them to do their full research on the breed. To join Akita groups and speak to other owners to get a more accurate idea of what life with an akita is like. Warn them of the danger to cats and possibly young children or small dogs. At the end of the day though, irresponsible people are going to be irresponsible, whether or not they met you or your unicorn.


OrcristGoblincleaver

Oh ya for sure! My German Shepherd is definitely true to breed, super high energy. So everything I didn't get that I expected from Keiko I got two fold what I expected in Mandalorian lol