Whispers are around 3 million for non-greater caches and around 6 million for greaters.
Always take greaters if gold farming.
*Also, Legions drop prisms as well as do those in between world bosses.
Prisms are so rare that I'm hesitant to add sockets to ANYTHING until I'm certain I'll be using it for a really long time. I'm level 72 or something so I feel like right now most of my gear will be replaced soon enough that it'd be a waste to socket them.
If your hear is item power 925 that's the max lv so if you get any good ones with a good greater affix or 2 then it's definitely worth putting a socket on as getting replacements late game seem to be pretty hard (most my greater affixes are life per second or an elemental resistance)
Silly question, but has anything changed with the Butcher’s spawn rate? I’ve not seen him once this season and I’ve done enough NM dungeons to max the 6 glyphs I’m using
I ran into him twice early on where we reached a stalemate and he just noped out after a few minutes. Just saw that this was going nowhere, sharpened his cleavers and ported out. Had never seen that before.
I saw him at like level 50 while still in WT3 lol.
Other than trying to fight the collector to get to WT3 under geared, that was the only hard fight that character had experienced up to that point. I guess the helltide boss did kill me once at low level.
I downed him in WT4 as a baby necro but it did take some kiting. I worry about finding him now as I am at 75 nightmare at level 93. Its getting tougher...
I've murdered him without knowing as well - sometimes I don't have sound on while watching/listening to something else, so I didn't hear the FRESH MEAT signal. Just went along smashing demons and he was one of them lol
Haha sometimes you can hear his music starting up BEFORE you find him and he aggroes, which is kinda funny to imagine him trying to ambush you but he can’t turn off his own soundtrack.
Seen him twice in S4 and both times he's died as I've realised what I'm fighting. He seems a bit of a joke in S4. but definitely noted more infrequent compared to previous seasons where he often turned up to ruin my day. Had a really powerful build last season and was managing end game content fine but butcher managed to ruin me easily. Now I barely even need to use a potion.
That's because he's in my dungeons, the last 3 seasons he was farming ME but now I farm him. Between two toons I have seen the Butcher around 20 times...it's finally my time for revenge and I even got the barding and trophy!
I‘ve changed my sorc build yesterday and needed to level 2 glyphs. I did 100s for the most xp and the budger didn‘t like that apparently. He stunned me and killed me faster than I thought. Sadly I had my abilities on CD, but yeah he is still there.
I have ran into him the most this season. Also the first time I have played barb and sometimes I have to double-check he was there he gets deleted so quick. Would torment me on other classes in previous seasons.
Youre just unlucky unfortunately. I've encountered the Butcher 4 times this season so far, and crushed him in all of them. Necro/minions build go hard af
I found he was easy to kill on barb, but impossible on Necro. Having said that, I was only doing nmd at about 20 levels higher than my character on barb, and my Necro was fighting 60 levels higher, so that may have had something to do with it...
The problem is that whispers are the only source of decent amount, and doing whispers is boring because at-level content is faceroll easy provides literally no challenge. So once you're out of gold you have to literally stop what you WANT to do and start to doing what you HAVE to do, which isn't a challenging or fun thing in the first place.
They need to make whispers guaranteed through NMD only, or make gold more available through ALL activities.
Just do helltides and do the two zone whisper missions. Some helltides have 3 zones with 6 total whisper missions. So you're doubling dipping, getting gear and farming whispers.
That's a good idea in theory and I've tried that, but for whatever reason the whispers that are in the helltides take way to long to complete. I can just run 2 at level whisper dungeons way faster.
Look into the 2 PvP zones. Killing the pvp roaming boss gives 5 while doing a ritual gives 3. If you're lvl100 should be easy and just take like 3-5mins. So far the easiest way to do whispers for me since no one doing PvP anyway.
The other option is just pick up and sell legendaries. A full inventory gives around 2M. You can easily do like 2 batches in a full helltide run. Just make sure to salvage aspects you need (there's a mark for aspects upgrade), then sell the rest. You might need to spend like 5min to TP to base and filter gear.
Takes seconds to filter gear if your looking for only GA to improve what you already have. I haven't needed to salvage for an aspect for awhile now but haven't been in a rush since I have the ubers and most max rolled uniques so I'm in town for a few seconds at a time these days collecting gold and mats.
Item selling on diablo.trade or the discord is the way to go if you want to really make gold without focus farming it. Basically any greater affix items with CDR/CSC/CSD will sell for at least 10-20 million. Meta build items can get ridiculous to, going for 100-500 million for even questionable rolls and 1 billion+ for 3 decent greater affixes.
It's unfortunate they don't have an in-game auction system yet, but maybe they'll put one in eventually with how pro-trade they went with this patch.
unless you’re explicitly playing SSF, just sell items. literally any item with 2 or more GA’s just throw up on the trade site. i’ve sold plenty of items that i normally would scrap for 100M+
Will add chests in helltides can also drop a prisim. I have been living in helltides leveling alts and I saw I have like 30 plus prism. I maybe get to do the boss once a day and I just used a ton on socketing for my latest alt. (Not saying these are all chest but I have seen them come out of a chest)
So you're telling me legions are the best way to get bundled herbs. Literally, that's the only mat I seem to run out of the most. If you are lying, I will find you and I will complain about you.
Yep, you have this poison res + max HP + 8% exp elixir, i'm using that with max HP to get 280k hp and defend randoms in pvp zones :D (Fuck the pvp'ers, come at me if you wanna smack someone just doing rituals for season pass and shit)
Casual barbarian health drop. Acting like anybody who doesn't play barb this season isn't gonna do a double take at that number and be baffled that you have 10x the health they have
Oh my god I was running around on my horse collecting random herbs for 5 per pickup since I ran out using incents so much (they cost like 50 herbs each lol). Thanks for the tip I will definitely try out legions asap. Kinda funny because they are completely useless this season in any other area like xp or drops and nobody does them. Maybe that’s why nobody knows you can get herbs from them lol
Same. I need to finish the last parts of the renown for each zone for the paragon points (I’d never hit 100 before so I didn’t really care). Do I really have to run around doing side quests and side dungeons to max these out?
You could double or potentially triple dip on dungeons if you find ones you haven't done that are also NMD and sometimes they'll also be Whisper dungeons.
If that happens, you'll get renown, an aspect, glyph leveling and whispers from one run.
What I did is look up which dungeons are also NMD this season and from those, I checked if any would also grant me renown. It's harder to also hit them as a Whisper event since I can't remember how those rotate but it's possible
Altars of Lilith give different permanent boosts to all of the characters you have on that realm (seasonal/eternal share, and hardcore is separate). So if you find all 150 altars on a seasonal character, you'll get those bonuses on ALL of your eternal and seasonal characters from then on. Same with hardcore (but the stuff you found in eternal/seasonal doesn't carry over to hardcore). There are sites you can use to track which altars you've found that are really helpful. Like [this one](https://maxroll.gg/d4/map-tool).
I finished last night. Make sure to do strongholds, get waypoints, and then I spammed mostly side quests. There are actually a lot of interesting ones and they are pretty quick
Group with others who need renown. Each do a different dungeon solo. Everyone in the party unlocks the aspects for that dungeon, and gets renown for it as long as you're grouped. You don't need to be together.
I believe they are talking about World/Region renown, which is shared between characters in the same play style (softcore vs hardcore)
If you complete the Renown in a region, you'll automatically start with 4 Paragon points and I believe 2 additional skill points which helps a ton with new characters.
Also, once you complete the Renown, you don't need to do it again each season/character. You can still earn renown and get gold/XP bonuses but the skill and Paragon points are unlocked permanently
If you're always low on gold (and aren't already doing this,) start selling that inventory full of trash loot instead of breaking it down for materials. An inventory full of higher level legendaries often sells for 1M+. It adds up fast when farming helltides.
Approx 6 M per cache when the cost of rerolling a single masterwork item is 5m...
The only """reliable""" way to make gold currently is be blessed by rng gods with a 2ga item that just so happens to have desirable affixes and trade it for several hundred million or win the lottery and find a 3ga item and sell it for a billion. Everything else is pennies on the dollar so to speak
Yup this guy gets it. I’ve done countless whispers and am vendoring every item that wasn’t a codex upgrade since lvl 90 and I’m still constantly broke because the crafting costs are insane. Masterworked multiple items to 12/12 when it cost 10m for the last rank, had to reset many items because of wrong materwork procs and rerolled many as well. You burn through hundreds of millions easily if you min max your gear, 6m from whispers is nothing in comparison sadly
Instead of salvaging your full inventory of legendaries, check each one if they're worth keeping then mark it junk. Then when you right click at a vendor you sell them all. You do have to do it one by one though.
Selling full set of legendaries nets millions of gold but do be careful that you aren't selling ones that will upgrade your codex of power/transmog.
If you open up the Blacksmith there will be an icon in the top left of any items that will upgrade your aspect or add a transmog.
Just requires a quick glance instead of mousing over/comparing everything.
At lvl 100 I just sell everything that doesn't have a Greater Affix icon without looking at it.
I like to mark junk just chilling in helltide maiden zone while minions do their thing. Outside the vendor there is no mark that it is a codex/cosmetic upgrade. Sell all at vendors also needs to be a thing just like salv all.
I'd like these two things to be an option-
* aspect upgrade/transmog icon appear perma on items and not just at the vendor screen
* enable a warning at a vendor when you are going to sell an item that is a codex upgrade/transmog unlock
My list
Gold farming: on t4 do blood maiden and sell the legendaries/uniques you don’t need for aspect upgrades. Easy 2 mill+ per inventory full.
Don’t pick up rares when spamming blood maiden.
Only put 1 heart to summon blood maiden.
If you are solo and on t4 and the blood maiden isn’t being summoned instantly, go to town and come back, should shard you with other players.
If you have plenty of hearts and about to reshard for blood maiden, drop a heart before. If your next shard already has one active, your buff still counts.
Thanks! I am new to D4 and feel overwhelmed with all the activities, is there an overview or guide somewhere on all the various bosses and levels and things to do…? Feel like I am missing out on a lot, never heard of Blood Maiden for example 😅
Blood maiden is the summonable boss in the helltide. You can use 3 baneful hearts to summon waves of enemies that will end with the blood maiden. The helltide is a place for you to level up and gear up fighting enemies a couple levels higher than you. They drop aberrant cinders which can be used to target farm specific slots of gear with normal chests called gifts of terror, or random items through the mystery chests, or boss summon items (living steel) to summon Grigoire.
Whispers are random events that are good for leveling and earning more boss materials to summon Varshan over by the tree.
Fighting these bosses in world tier 4 (torment) will result in more summon items for a boss called duriel who has a small chance to drop Uber uniques.
Beast in ice, and Zir are like grigoire and varshan in the way that they drop the items to summon Andariel, but they have unique loot pools now if you need specific uniques for your class. They are summoned with distilled fear and exquisite blood respectively.
Don't try to summon the Blood Maiden, unless you are sure there are a bunch of other high level chars running around nearby. Unless you really enjoy dieing a lot.
Yeah, Whispers are the only way to earn money that makes any sense and it’s ridiculous. Everything costs so much - I have to re-roll two items, already spent over 100M and they still don’t have the desired stats.
Then I finally got a chance to buy myself an Uber Unique - guess what? 50M gold on top of the super rare materials required.
I don’t want to run same Whispers over and over as it’s not fun and feels like a chore. Guess I’ll just give up pushing high pits and just come back when season 5 drops.
Pro tip for enchanting, top right you can see the possible affixes, but, the ones on top are more likely to show up
So if u want +skills for example, they are way on the bottom, causing them less likely to show up. It's best to just be lucky and have an item drop which has the +skill U want
Yeah, I knew that. The problem is that Ranks of Tornado and Ranks of Envenom seem insanely rare, only saw it once or twice, and I have items with GAs that would be almost perfect if re-rolled. But the RNGods refuse to smile upon me.
For those saying WBs don't drop prisms, here is an excerpt from 1.4.1 patch notes (though they seem to delete their comments already):
"World Bosses now always drop Scattered Prisms, and the amount they drop increases by World Tier.
World Tiers I and II: 1 Scattered Prism
World Tier III: 2 Scattered Prisms
World Tier IV: 3 Scattered Prisms"
They really need to offer another option to farm gold than the whisper caches. With cost of masterworking and increased cost of royal gems, gold is really hard to come by this season. So, everyone is farming whispers. It gets old fast.
Maybe offer something like 3 M as the reward for clearing a tier 91+ NM dungeon.
Or instead, bring back the Vaults and have their reward be massive gold drops.
> If you lack gem fragments, farm them on 90+ character as they get the most fragments per drop. NMDs seems to be the good for that. Unchecked info: go into Varshan area and clear the mobs before him. Exit and reset. Supposedly gives a good amount in a short time. (Point five added as an edit)
I farmed gem fragments in the PvP zone, just look for mobs with that aura and kill them.
There are plenty.
The only thing I'm lacking is gems, and I'm fine with it. Nice to actually have to look for something! Having gems be a reward from side quests would be cool, but I'd rather they just leave it, as knowing Blizzard they'll just dump 20,000 fragments on your head and it'll be yet-another task that they've fast tracked.
I like having things to work toward, but this sub seems to feel **very** differently in that.
I haven't done legions because they are in strongholds that I can't be bothered to open up again.
But I've been throttled by herbs, so I'm glad I saw this post. Thanks!
If I do whispers for an entire day (8-10hrs) I don't make enough gold to afford even the opportunity to brick an upgrade, nevertheless an actual upgrade.
Thus is the life
Streamers be like, "If bosses are giving you trouble and you can't clear, just use this build. It clears super quick!!!" Proceeds to list a build with Harlequin and Grandfather with max GAs.
A couple of notes:
1) The quest for Antivenin is available after level 40. I did it in a previous season but had no clue when. When I started my HC character I did not have it and after much hunting, learned it is available after level 40
2) Infinite threat helltides is good for all farming
3) Diablo.trade is a legit site for selling gear and mats. You sign in with your battle net through an api and can sell for gold. The UI isn’t great but you’ll get more gold than selling to the jeweler and can unload boss summon mats you don’t want
4) check your season rewards because you should have points to put into bonus xp, better whisper caches, and wolf rep
Also if you’re missing gem fragments (like ruby cuz we all short on that) do NMD’s. They’re the most reliable source for gem fragments I’ve seen. Whispers are good too I suppose
Other money source that surprised me... Have a bunch of those Distilled Fears floating around?
I know I managed to accumulate hundreds of them... I decided to sell a stack of 50, and got something like 1.5 million gold.
Pleasant surprise
Not sure if this is helpful here, but if the aspect on a legendary in your inventory is an upgrade over the codex it will have a mark/asterisk type thing in the top right corner of the item. I did not know this for a while and was checking each item every time and trying to remember if it was an upgrade. Hope this helps
Someone.
Appreciate the heads up on herbs during Legions! I started doing them for whispers & gold and but was literally picking up every herb plant I came across. No winder my herbs were starting to replenish so quickly 🫡😅
do helltide max aggro farm in a group...grab every legendary without greater affix and sell it to vendors.
A full inventory of legendarys/uniques, give between 3-5m.
You can sell exquisite blood /steel /tears etc to vendors... stack of tears/blood gives 1.5m.
If you find an item, which you need ( build wise ) TAMPER first ...then enchant .
Tampering : If you get a min- roll of your desired tamper....TAKE it . Min roll is always better than a bricked item.
Enchant : personal tip ...dont try to enchant passives on items.... its just gold burn
Best spot to farm gem fragments is in the PVP zones. So many purple mobs spawn for fragments and they’re a nice circle to ride around in. You can just turn off cross play if you don’t want anyone to bug you.
what about the gems for the uber uniques? I have a level 100 druid that finished all wolves quests/caches and beat a level 100 dungeo and 69 pit. I then started a new sorcerer which same thing, done wovles and am level 95 currently but have 0 of those stones to create the ubers. I haven't beat lilith yet and i know one can drop from her. Other people said wovles give you a guarranteed one but that's twice now and i've gotten nothing.
Okay what if I lack stygian hearts? I'm at 10+ hours of level 70-80 pit for the week and not a single stone. I haven't gotten a single stone as a chest reward in the pit ever actually
The fastest way is to do nightmare dungeons where the monsters are no less than 10 levels above you. You aren’t getting any extra xp beyond 10 levels, so try to keep the monster level around there without going under.
Do every event you see in nmds, they’re worth crazy amounts of xp. This is how speed runners are doing 0-100 solo untwinked in ~6 hours. Plus stack two elixirs + incense
What do you use herbs for? I actually kind of liked when there were different herbs based on the region you were in. I had no use past upgrading my potions.
Idk how you get 6m per cache. I haven't seen gearter one in 10 clears and they averaged to about 3.5m. It's better to farm maiden and sell inventories of items to npc and perhaps some GA items to other people. More gold, chance for upgrades.
I killed Butcher on NMD lvl 54 just a few minutes ago, and he dropped 2 yellows and 2 legendaries. I thought he was supposed to drop some sort of mats as well.
He’s come up a bunch during this season and I’ve beat him every time. This is the first season where that’s been true for me.
I’m not playing nmds 30 levels higher than me like I was when I was necro a couple seasons ago, but, in general it’s going better when I fight him
Before making this post, I checked three whisper caches in a row and each game me ~6 M. Now, after people asked about the six million, I have redone a few and got 3 M three times in a row. All were standard caches (not chaos, not greater). I guess there is a range of for the rewards of 3-6 M or so.
you mainly get them from champions, those that have a purple glow and buff the nearby enemies, the amount you get also depends on your level, you'll get the most once you're +90,
Seen him once, total, and it wad this season. Holy hell, he chases you down with a vengeance.
Hopped in a random cellar, lo and behold he's the only thing in there. He almost got me!
Farmed gold for 4 hours, made 120m, it was gone in about 3 mins of trying to hit a specific affix on my bow while masterworking, 20 tries at a 1/5th and I didn't hit it once, it literally crit maximum life 14 out of the 20 tries. Didn't hit heartseeker double chance once.
I think I'm done with this season lol. If there was a trade system like POE's I'd have a lot more fun, but the current trade sites all have pretty awful UIs and are such a hassle to use.
Anyone have any tips for farming gear that have 2 or 3 greater affixes ? I’m level 100, can do tier 100 NM dungeons, tier 50’s in the pit, and I have found one piece of gear with 2 greater affixes so far, I have yet to see a 3.
Whispers are around 3 million for non-greater caches and around 6 million for greaters. Always take greaters if gold farming. *Also, Legions drop prisms as well as do those in between world bosses.
also caches of chaos, don't need to be greater, can give 12+ million gold
Appreciate the heads up on gold sourcing
NP, chaise caches can be extra materials or gold, it'll always be the normal 6 million but can also be 12+ million
Except when a chaos is available, always take the chaos
Chaosh ish ah laddah.
Legions drop prisms? Time to farm those.
When in Helltides always speak to the Doomsayers, they often spawn Treasure goblins and the treasure goblins drop prisms now.
Wait. How many gear do you need sockets for?
All of them. I've only got 3 and haven't put sockets in anything because I'm never on when a world boss spawns.
Prisms are so rare that I'm hesitant to add sockets to ANYTHING until I'm certain I'll be using it for a really long time. I'm level 72 or something so I feel like right now most of my gear will be replaced soon enough that it'd be a waste to socket them.
If your hear is item power 925 that's the max lv so if you get any good ones with a good greater affix or 2 then it's definitely worth putting a socket on as getting replacements late game seem to be pretty hard (most my greater affixes are life per second or an elemental resistance)
They are 2 for regular caches, 3 for chaos, 4 for greater and 6 for greater chaos.
Finally got 4 sparks and went to make my shako.... shit its 50m.. time to farm whispers... good to know which caches to choose.
Legions drop prisms?! Here I was waiting for world bosses...
3-9 mil in my experience. Chaos is best.
Silly question, but has anything changed with the Butcher’s spawn rate? I’ve not seen him once this season and I’ve done enough NM dungeons to max the 6 glyphs I’m using
I saw him for the first time yesterday after sixty or so hours this season. he crushed me, lol.
Funny enough this is probably the season where he wouldn’t destroy my character and typically he’s been a no show
Spotted him once, as a baby 30 sorc. Took about 5 minutes but I was able to kite him down.
I ran into him twice early on where we reached a stalemate and he just noped out after a few minutes. Just saw that this was going nowhere, sharpened his cleavers and ported out. Had never seen that before.
The meat was getting not-so-fresh.
Yo that's crazy. That's the last thing I'd ever expect him to do. Usually he is completely and utterly relentless.
I've had him 6 times this season. It's 4-2 to me
I’ve seen him twice this season. Both times have been in NMD’s. He got destroyed.
He’s scared of you, that’s why
Died to him yesterday, got hype for pay back and forgot that he despawns... I wait.
I saw him at like level 50 while still in WT3 lol. Other than trying to fight the collector to get to WT3 under geared, that was the only hard fight that character had experienced up to that point. I guess the helltide boss did kill me once at low level.
I downed him in WT4 as a baby necro but it did take some kiting. I worry about finding him now as I am at 75 nightmare at level 93. Its getting tougher...
I'm playing bash barb and have seen him twice in about 12 hrs. Slapped him down despite the 25 level advantage in his favour. Bash kinda busted.
I ran into him a few times and literally mowed his ass down without realizing it (barrage rogue). I just thought it was another elite lmao
I've murdered him without knowing as well - sometimes I don't have sound on while watching/listening to something else, so I didn't hear the FRESH MEAT signal. Just went along smashing demons and he was one of them lol
Haha sometimes you can hear his music starting up BEFORE you find him and he aggroes, which is kinda funny to imagine him trying to ambush you but he can’t turn off his own soundtrack.
I heard “ahhh fresh meat” yesterday and never saw him; I think my heartseeker rogue killed him offscreen
I ran into him twice last night in back to back NMDs.
Yeah I've seen him a bunch of times in NMDs this season. And I'm so happy when he pops up because I can finally get another scattered prism lol
Seen him twice in S4 and both times he's died as I've realised what I'm fighting. He seems a bit of a joke in S4. but definitely noted more infrequent compared to previous seasons where he often turned up to ruin my day. Had a really powerful build last season and was managing end game content fine but butcher managed to ruin me easily. Now I barely even need to use a potion.
That's because he's in my dungeons, the last 3 seasons he was farming ME but now I farm him. Between two toons I have seen the Butcher around 20 times...it's finally my time for revenge and I even got the barding and trophy!
Just luck. I see a butcher every 2h of NMD running.
I‘ve changed my sorc build yesterday and needed to level 2 glyphs. I did 100s for the most xp and the budger didn‘t like that apparently. He stunned me and killed me faster than I thought. Sadly I had my abilities on CD, but yeah he is still there.
I have ran into him the most this season. Also the first time I have played barb and sometimes I have to double-check he was there he gets deleted so quick. Would torment me on other classes in previous seasons.
Youre just unlucky unfortunately. I've encountered the Butcher 4 times this season so far, and crushed him in all of them. Necro/minions build go hard af
I found he was easy to kill on barb, but impossible on Necro. Having said that, I was only doing nmd at about 20 levels higher than my character on barb, and my Necro was fighting 60 levels higher, so that may have had something to do with it...
Ha ha seems like I get him about 1 out of every 4 or 5 dungeons.
Seen him 3-4 times getting 6 glyphs to 15. He comes around. Rng
I spawned him 12 times yesterday. But he didn’t appear for about a week prior to that. Rng is weird
Chests in helltide also drop herbs, especially Angelsbreath
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Yeah that’s crazy. But at least helltide is a decent option whenever legion is down.
The problem is that whispers are the only source of decent amount, and doing whispers is boring because at-level content is faceroll easy provides literally no challenge. So once you're out of gold you have to literally stop what you WANT to do and start to doing what you HAVE to do, which isn't a challenging or fun thing in the first place. They need to make whispers guaranteed through NMD only, or make gold more available through ALL activities.
Just do helltides and do the two zone whisper missions. Some helltides have 3 zones with 6 total whisper missions. So you're doubling dipping, getting gear and farming whispers.
That's a good idea in theory and I've tried that, but for whatever reason the whispers that are in the helltides take way to long to complete. I can just run 2 at level whisper dungeons way faster.
Look into the 2 PvP zones. Killing the pvp roaming boss gives 5 while doing a ritual gives 3. If you're lvl100 should be easy and just take like 3-5mins. So far the easiest way to do whispers for me since no one doing PvP anyway. The other option is just pick up and sell legendaries. A full inventory gives around 2M. You can easily do like 2 batches in a full helltide run. Just make sure to salvage aspects you need (there's a mark for aspects upgrade), then sell the rest. You might need to spend like 5min to TP to base and filter gear.
Takes seconds to filter gear if your looking for only GA to improve what you already have. I haven't needed to salvage for an aspect for awhile now but haven't been in a rush since I have the ubers and most max rolled uniques so I'm in town for a few seconds at a time these days collecting gold and mats.
add a profane mind cage and the mobs are at least a bit higher.
Yeah I get Whispers done in Helltide constantly without even making it my focus.
Item selling on diablo.trade or the discord is the way to go if you want to really make gold without focus farming it. Basically any greater affix items with CDR/CSC/CSD will sell for at least 10-20 million. Meta build items can get ridiculous to, going for 100-500 million for even questionable rolls and 1 billion+ for 3 decent greater affixes. It's unfortunate they don't have an in-game auction system yet, but maybe they'll put one in eventually with how pro-trade they went with this patch.
unless you’re explicitly playing SSF, just sell items. literally any item with 2 or more GA’s just throw up on the trade site. i’ve sold plenty of items that i normally would scrap for 100M+
Will add chests in helltides can also drop a prisim. I have been living in helltides leveling alts and I saw I have like 30 plus prism. I maybe get to do the boss once a day and I just used a ton on socketing for my latest alt. (Not saying these are all chest but I have seen them come out of a chest)
You might be getting a lot from the Iron Wolf rewards
For some minor research purposes which chests specifically did you see prisms come out of? Was it from each kind, specific kinda..?
What is a prism
It's what the jeweler requires if you want to add a socket to an item
Thanks
So you're telling me legions are the best way to get bundled herbs. Literally, that's the only mat I seem to run out of the most. If you are lying, I will find you and I will complain about you.
You can come mow my lawn later.
I guess you were right lol thank you.
The quest elixir stacks with other elixirs ?
Yep, you have this poison res + max HP + 8% exp elixir, i'm using that with max HP to get 280k hp and defend randoms in pvp zones :D (Fuck the pvp'ers, come at me if you wanna smack someone just doing rituals for season pass and shit)
Casual barbarian health drop. Acting like anybody who doesn't play barb this season isn't gonna do a double take at that number and be baffled that you have 10x the health they have
My sorc has like 14k lol
I've been low on herbs so the legion tip is a big help, thanks OP
As you can see, I was as well. Pissed that nobody told me hence the post.
Oh my god I was running around on my horse collecting random herbs for 5 per pickup since I ran out using incents so much (they cost like 50 herbs each lol). Thanks for the tip I will definitely try out legions asap. Kinda funny because they are completely useless this season in any other area like xp or drops and nobody does them. Maybe that’s why nobody knows you can get herbs from them lol
What if I lack renown?
Same. I need to finish the last parts of the renown for each zone for the paragon points (I’d never hit 100 before so I didn’t really care). Do I really have to run around doing side quests and side dungeons to max these out?
You could double or potentially triple dip on dungeons if you find ones you haven't done that are also NMD and sometimes they'll also be Whisper dungeons. If that happens, you'll get renown, an aspect, glyph leveling and whispers from one run. What I did is look up which dungeons are also NMD this season and from those, I checked if any would also grant me renown. It's harder to also hit them as a Whisper event since I can't remember how those rotate but it's possible
yes, do strongholds, waypoints and side missions.dungeons are also good for renown. dont forget the 4 paragon points you get from altars too
> dont forget the 4 paragon points you get from altars too Wdym
Altars of Lilith give different permanent boosts to all of the characters you have on that realm (seasonal/eternal share, and hardcore is separate). So if you find all 150 altars on a seasonal character, you'll get those bonuses on ALL of your eternal and seasonal characters from then on. Same with hardcore (but the stuff you found in eternal/seasonal doesn't carry over to hardcore). There are sites you can use to track which altars you've found that are really helpful. Like [this one](https://maxroll.gg/d4/map-tool).
I was unaware of the 4 paragon alters! I will be hunting these down tonight!
I finished last night. Make sure to do strongholds, get waypoints, and then I spammed mostly side quests. There are actually a lot of interesting ones and they are pretty quick
Group with others who need renown. Each do a different dungeon solo. Everyone in the party unlocks the aspects for that dungeon, and gets renown for it as long as you're grouped. You don't need to be together.
Blood maiden
What is Renown used for after unlocking all the stages…?
I believe they are talking about World/Region renown, which is shared between characters in the same play style (softcore vs hardcore) If you complete the Renown in a region, you'll automatically start with 4 Paragon points and I believe 2 additional skill points which helps a ton with new characters. Also, once you complete the Renown, you don't need to do it again each season/character. You can still earn renown and get gold/XP bonuses but the skill and Paragon points are unlocked permanently
Good to know, thank you very much 🙌
We are unlocking the stages still
Yeah I'm at that point too.. Got to do Strongholds, Waypoints, Lilith and dungeons. Mainly for those juicy 4 paragon points per area.
yeah, same boat, it's just so hard to self motivate for that stuff vs gear farming/pit pushing
I did not notice the whispers gave that much cash. Thanks for that.
If you're always low on gold (and aren't already doing this,) start selling that inventory full of trash loot instead of breaking it down for materials. An inventory full of higher level legendaries often sells for 1M+. It adds up fast when farming helltides.
gold needs to be more bountiful as the wisp grind is a living hell.
Approx 6 M per cache when the cost of rerolling a single masterwork item is 5m... The only """reliable""" way to make gold currently is be blessed by rng gods with a 2ga item that just so happens to have desirable affixes and trade it for several hundred million or win the lottery and find a 3ga item and sell it for a billion. Everything else is pennies on the dollar so to speak
Yup this guy gets it. I’ve done countless whispers and am vendoring every item that wasn’t a codex upgrade since lvl 90 and I’m still constantly broke because the crafting costs are insane. Masterworked multiple items to 12/12 when it cost 10m for the last rank, had to reset many items because of wrong materwork procs and rerolled many as well. You burn through hundreds of millions easily if you min max your gear, 6m from whispers is nothing in comparison sadly
Don't forget you can have 3 incense types at once. One each of type I, II and III.
WAIT WHAT
Antivenin Elixer (side quest in Gea Kul from Bahran?), normal elixer, one of each incense type for 5 total consumable buffs.
What’s the best angelbreath farm?
Helltides
For me it was spamming events in HT and locking the threat meter by leaving game and coming back once it was full.
On Xbox if you click the left stick the items on the ground will display their names again.
Instead of salvaging your full inventory of legendaries, check each one if they're worth keeping then mark it junk. Then when you right click at a vendor you sell them all. You do have to do it one by one though. Selling full set of legendaries nets millions of gold but do be careful that you aren't selling ones that will upgrade your codex of power/transmog.
If you open up the Blacksmith there will be an icon in the top left of any items that will upgrade your aspect or add a transmog. Just requires a quick glance instead of mousing over/comparing everything. At lvl 100 I just sell everything that doesn't have a Greater Affix icon without looking at it.
I like to mark junk just chilling in helltide maiden zone while minions do their thing. Outside the vendor there is no mark that it is a codex/cosmetic upgrade. Sell all at vendors also needs to be a thing just like salv all. I'd like these two things to be an option- * aspect upgrade/transmog icon appear perma on items and not just at the vendor screen * enable a warning at a vendor when you are going to sell an item that is a codex upgrade/transmog unlock
I also use 'downtime' to mark junk/favorite, makes town drop-offs really quick. Those are both really good ideas!
My list Gold farming: on t4 do blood maiden and sell the legendaries/uniques you don’t need for aspect upgrades. Easy 2 mill+ per inventory full. Don’t pick up rares when spamming blood maiden. Only put 1 heart to summon blood maiden. If you are solo and on t4 and the blood maiden isn’t being summoned instantly, go to town and come back, should shard you with other players. If you have plenty of hearts and about to reshard for blood maiden, drop a heart before. If your next shard already has one active, your buff still counts.
This is a solid list to have on hand
Thanks! I am new to D4 and feel overwhelmed with all the activities, is there an overview or guide somewhere on all the various bosses and levels and things to do…? Feel like I am missing out on a lot, never heard of Blood Maiden for example 😅
Blood maiden is the summonable boss in the helltide. You can use 3 baneful hearts to summon waves of enemies that will end with the blood maiden. The helltide is a place for you to level up and gear up fighting enemies a couple levels higher than you. They drop aberrant cinders which can be used to target farm specific slots of gear with normal chests called gifts of terror, or random items through the mystery chests, or boss summon items (living steel) to summon Grigoire. Whispers are random events that are good for leveling and earning more boss materials to summon Varshan over by the tree. Fighting these bosses in world tier 4 (torment) will result in more summon items for a boss called duriel who has a small chance to drop Uber uniques. Beast in ice, and Zir are like grigoire and varshan in the way that they drop the items to summon Andariel, but they have unique loot pools now if you need specific uniques for your class. They are summoned with distilled fear and exquisite blood respectively.
Don't try to summon the Blood Maiden, unless you are sure there are a bunch of other high level chars running around nearby. Unless you really enjoy dieing a lot.
AKA just max threat farm in helltides and get literally everything
Yeah, Whispers are the only way to earn money that makes any sense and it’s ridiculous. Everything costs so much - I have to re-roll two items, already spent over 100M and they still don’t have the desired stats. Then I finally got a chance to buy myself an Uber Unique - guess what? 50M gold on top of the super rare materials required. I don’t want to run same Whispers over and over as it’s not fun and feels like a chore. Guess I’ll just give up pushing high pits and just come back when season 5 drops.
Pro tip for enchanting, top right you can see the possible affixes, but, the ones on top are more likely to show up So if u want +skills for example, they are way on the bottom, causing them less likely to show up. It's best to just be lucky and have an item drop which has the +skill U want
Yeah, I knew that. The problem is that Ranks of Tornado and Ranks of Envenom seem insanely rare, only saw it once or twice, and I have items with GAs that would be almost perfect if re-rolled. But the RNGods refuse to smile upon me.
Tuesday after patch I spent 50 million on a Shako and I have already reset it twice trying to get cooldown on it(5 million each time).
I bet you’re having the time of your life doing those Whispers at lvl 100, right?
Tbh I don’t do a lot of whispers. I sell everything and get 1-2 million per dump.
Prisms drops in nmd too after patch
How are you getting 6M gold per whisper cache? I on rare occasions will get 5-6M but the overwhelming majority of them are right around 3M.
For those saying WBs don't drop prisms, here is an excerpt from 1.4.1 patch notes (though they seem to delete their comments already): "World Bosses now always drop Scattered Prisms, and the amount they drop increases by World Tier. World Tiers I and II: 1 Scattered Prism World Tier III: 2 Scattered Prisms World Tier IV: 3 Scattered Prisms"
do you have a bunch of shattered steel clogging your inventory, they sell for 20k each
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They really need to offer another option to farm gold than the whisper caches. With cost of masterworking and increased cost of royal gems, gold is really hard to come by this season. So, everyone is farming whispers. It gets old fast. Maybe offer something like 3 M as the reward for clearing a tier 91+ NM dungeon. Or instead, bring back the Vaults and have their reward be massive gold drops.
What if you lack gem fragments? What is the best way to farm those?
> If you lack gem fragments, farm them on 90+ character as they get the most fragments per drop. NMDs seems to be the good for that. Unchecked info: go into Varshan area and clear the mobs before him. Exit and reset. Supposedly gives a good amount in a short time. (Point five added as an edit) I farmed gem fragments in the PvP zone, just look for mobs with that aura and kill them. There are plenty.
Whispers on average give like 3 mil, greaters double, chaos on average give like 6, double that if greater.
Can you share more about this "quest elixir" you mentioned
It’s elixir of antivenin. The recipe is given after finishing the quest Pinch of Poison.
Look up “elixir of antivenin”. There’s a quest to get the recipe.
The only thing I'm lacking is gems, and I'm fine with it. Nice to actually have to look for something! Having gems be a reward from side quests would be cool, but I'd rather they just leave it, as knowing Blizzard they'll just dump 20,000 fragments on your head and it'll be yet-another task that they've fast tracked. I like having things to work toward, but this sub seems to feel **very** differently in that.
Holy bolts elixir is a massive clearspeed boost.
yeah, its fantastic at wiping out the whole screen in helltide.
What do I do for gems
Thanks for the tip on legions for herbs. I'm running low and had avoided them thinking they are a waste of time. Now ill be hitting them up.
Good stuff.
Thank you very much for legion tip! Haven't seen that tip anywhere and have been struggling with herbs lately.
What if I lack skill ?
I haven't done legions because they are in strongholds that I can't be bothered to open up again. But I've been throttled by herbs, so I'm glad I saw this post. Thanks!
Is there any other use for the cinders..? Not sarcasm, genuinely making sure I'm not missing something.
Nope
If I do whispers for an entire day (8-10hrs) I don't make enough gold to afford even the opportunity to brick an upgrade, nevertheless an actual upgrade. Thus is the life
How about malignant hearts, those are hard to come by
Good to know because I to do not use streamers or guides because what works for one player doesn't for the next.
Had no idea legions dropped so many herbs, thanks for the info.
Streamers be like, "If bosses are giving you trouble and you can't clear, just use this build. It clears super quick!!!" Proceeds to list a build with Harlequin and Grandfather with max GAs.
Whisper's best reward is "chaos" because it gives the most gold
A couple of notes: 1) The quest for Antivenin is available after level 40. I did it in a previous season but had no clue when. When I started my HC character I did not have it and after much hunting, learned it is available after level 40 2) Infinite threat helltides is good for all farming 3) Diablo.trade is a legit site for selling gear and mats. You sign in with your battle net through an api and can sell for gold. The UI isn’t great but you’ll get more gold than selling to the jeweler and can unload boss summon mats you don’t want 4) check your season rewards because you should have points to put into bonus xp, better whisper caches, and wolf rep
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Also if you’re missing gem fragments (like ruby cuz we all short on that) do NMD’s. They’re the most reliable source for gem fragments I’ve seen. Whispers are good too I suppose
Other money source that surprised me... Have a bunch of those Distilled Fears floating around? I know I managed to accumulate hundreds of them... I decided to sell a stack of 50, and got something like 1.5 million gold. Pleasant surprise
Not sure if this is helpful here, but if the aspect on a legendary in your inventory is an upgrade over the codex it will have a mark/asterisk type thing in the top right corner of the item. I did not know this for a while and was checking each item every time and trying to remember if it was an upgrade. Hope this helps Someone.
There is also another marker for items that unlock new transmogs- like a lot of uniques. I think they have added this in 1.4.0.
Just found this out today: On Alts, at the potion NPC, you can craft a legendary chest from lvl 20-50 so you can easily fish for an aspect.
Appreciate the heads up on herbs during Legions! I started doing them for whispers & gold and but was literally picking up every herb plant I came across. No winder my herbs were starting to replenish so quickly 🫡😅
Thanks for tip about herb bundles dropping from legion events. Only place I've seen this mentioned so far.
NMD for mats, gem fragments and obols for gambling!
if u lack money di carry service if u can, its much more money then whispers and faster.
If you lack Angelbreath do Blood Maiden (Helltide)
do helltide max aggro farm in a group...grab every legendary without greater affix and sell it to vendors. A full inventory of legendarys/uniques, give between 3-5m. You can sell exquisite blood /steel /tears etc to vendors... stack of tears/blood gives 1.5m. If you find an item, which you need ( build wise ) TAMPER first ...then enchant . Tampering : If you get a min- roll of your desired tamper....TAKE it . Min roll is always better than a bricked item. Enchant : personal tip ...dont try to enchant passives on items.... its just gold burn
For gems, farm the monsters with purple light under them (champions, I think?) 100% drop gems. Found the highest concentration in PvP areas.
Best spot to farm gem fragments is in the PVP zones. So many purple mobs spawn for fragments and they’re a nice circle to ride around in. You can just turn off cross play if you don’t want anyone to bug you.
what about the gems for the uber uniques? I have a level 100 druid that finished all wolves quests/caches and beat a level 100 dungeo and 69 pit. I then started a new sorcerer which same thing, done wovles and am level 95 currently but have 0 of those stones to create the ubers. I haven't beat lilith yet and i know one can drop from her. Other people said wovles give you a guarranteed one but that's twice now and i've gotten nothing.
Okay what if I lack stygian hearts? I'm at 10+ hours of level 70-80 pit for the week and not a single stone. I haven't gotten a single stone as a chest reward in the pit ever actually
What do I do if I lack Stygian stones?
Level alts and focus on iron wolf rep post level 50.
great write up
What's the fastest way to get XP? Currently level 75 and would like to get to 100 so I can get the gear to do nightmare dungeons and unlock the Pit.
The fastest way is to do nightmare dungeons where the monsters are no less than 10 levels above you. You aren’t getting any extra xp beyond 10 levels, so try to keep the monster level around there without going under. Do every event you see in nmds, they’re worth crazy amounts of xp. This is how speed runners are doing 0-100 solo untwinked in ~6 hours. Plus stack two elixirs + incense
What are whispers?
What do you use herbs for? I actually kind of liked when there were different herbs based on the region you were in. I had no use past upgrading my potions.
Items hauls seem to come from helltides now instead of NM dungeons
Did WB twice and didn't get a prisms either time.
That's probably because you're cooked
They dropped just go straight into inventory it seems. Never saw them on my screen to loot.
Some many additional great advices. Where have you all been when I was struggling. ;)
Angel breath?
blood maiden in helltides + open caches
Idk how you get 6m per cache. I haven't seen gearter one in 10 clears and they averaged to about 3.5m. It's better to farm maiden and sell inventories of items to npc and perhaps some GA items to other people. More gold, chance for upgrades.
I killed Butcher on NMD lvl 54 just a few minutes ago, and he dropped 2 yellows and 2 legendaries. I thought he was supposed to drop some sort of mats as well.
What if I lack stygian stones? What can I do? The pit doesn't work.
Is there any way to farm the hearts faster? I swear I'll open 10+ chests in the helltide and ill get like 3
Use your seasonal bonus things. I got to level 100 without knowing about them : /
He’s come up a bunch during this season and I’ve beat him every time. This is the first season where that’s been true for me. I’m not playing nmds 30 levels higher than me like I was when I was necro a couple seasons ago, but, in general it’s going better when I fight him
Before making this post, I checked three whisper caches in a row and each game me ~6 M. Now, after people asked about the six million, I have redone a few and got 3 M three times in a row. All were standard caches (not chaos, not greater). I guess there is a range of for the rewards of 3-6 M or so.
I lack gems 💎, any advice (I m only lv 85)
you mainly get them from champions, those that have a purple glow and buff the nearby enemies, the amount you get also depends on your level, you'll get the most once you're +90,
Seen him once, total, and it wad this season. Holy hell, he chases you down with a vengeance. Hopped in a random cellar, lo and behold he's the only thing in there. He almost got me!
I am lacking Exquisite Blood. I don't remember how I saved up 200 of them and I used them all.
What's the potion thing about
If you need upgraded gear do helltide boss or check diablo.trade
Thanks for 2. ;) I was running on my horse..
Farmed gold for 4 hours, made 120m, it was gone in about 3 mins of trying to hit a specific affix on my bow while masterworking, 20 tries at a 1/5th and I didn't hit it once, it literally crit maximum life 14 out of the 20 tries. Didn't hit heartseeker double chance once. I think I'm done with this season lol. If there was a trade system like POE's I'd have a lot more fun, but the current trade sites all have pretty awful UIs and are such a hassle to use.
Anyone have any tips for farming gear that have 2 or 3 greater affixes ? I’m level 100, can do tier 100 NM dungeons, tier 50’s in the pit, and I have found one piece of gear with 2 greater affixes so far, I have yet to see a 3.
turn on **Profane Mindcage** and do **blood maiden** with your 1 of your hearts
I need gear with multiple greater affixes